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Is Kansas City Chiefs Alex Smith Worth A Big Deal?


If you follow the Chiefs news throughout the offseason, then it is likely you have read many articles already about if Alex Smith should get the big money deal that he is reportedly wanting.

The report that was circulating the interwebs was that quarterback Alex Smith was asking for a 126 million dollar deal. The guy who just got a new contract worth this amount was Bears quarterback Jay Cutler. What has Cutler done in his time in Chicago? He’ll be entering his sixth season as a Bear in 2014 and over the past five years has thrown for nearly 15,000 yards with over 100 passing touchdowns and 75 interceptions while going 39-28 in the games he started. He has had some good success in Chicago, but I don’t think he should be making more money than the likes of  Joe Flacco, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning.

Alex Smith in the past three years has won 30 games and thrown for 53 touchdowns with only 17 interceptions. Alex Smith has become the definition of a game manager when it comes to playing the position of quarterback. The argument for if a game manager type of quarterback should have the one of the biggest quarterback contracts in the league could go either way really. There is no second tier quarterback paying scale as there should be, so this puts the Chiefs in a tough position.

Smith brought the Chiefs their best season since 2003 when they won 13 games, but at the end of the day the season ended in the same result as the past six Chiefs playoff appearances, in a loss. However it wasn’t Alex Smith who lost them the game. He put them in the best position possible to win with a 28 point second half lead. 28 POINTS! While gaining this lead Smith went 30-46 for 378 yards and four touchdowns, while still tacking on 57 rushing yards. The defense lost this game for them.

What I am getting at here is why would the Chiefs not pay a guy that brought the team the closest it has been to winning a playoff game in 20 years. The Chiefs need to pay Alex Smith what he wants. The fans have endured the atrocious years of watching the likes of Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Matt Cassel, and Brady Quinn take the snaps from the center on this team. They deserve a good quarterback for more than just a couple of years.

Smith just turned 30 years old so the timetable on his career isn’t a lost cause yet as he has at least three or four more good seasons left in him. The Chiefs gave up two 2nd round draft picks for Smith to play quarterback for this team. Therefore, Smith shouldn’t just be a rental type of quarterback since the team did give up a lot to get him and he gave this team one of the biggest turnarounds in NFL history.

Pay the man what he wants.

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  • Wes McDougal

    I hate the term “game manager” I think every QB has to control / manage the game. AS11 has proved he is a winner. I’m a big fan of AS11 and think he is a better QB than Cutler. and Cutler is overpaid. I don’t think any of us know what AS11 is asking for in his new contract. I think we will get a deal done with him for 4-5 years. We will soon find out

  • berttheclock

    Why another micah and trinity bashing session of Alex Smith? We all know and understand the Alex Smith extension as it has been repeated in thread after thread. Don’t feed the trolls of micah and trinity. Enough Alex Smith, already.

    • Deadmeat

      Let’s go drink some beer Bert, since Micah can’t handle his booze….:). Talk about how much we love the chiefs, through good and bad.

    • Nick the Kick

      Bert, don’t you think this is a legitimate topic for debate among Chiefs fans? I know from reading your insightful posts that you are “one of the good ones” but this topic is not as simple as Micah or the author want it to be. People who live and die Sundays based on what the Chiefs do deserve to hash out our teams future, even if no one with any power is listening.

      • preston riley

        Good post Nick. You’re right. It is a valid topic. (Would people rather debate who’s going to make the practice squad?) I’m still not so sure that Alex is actually asking for that much or taking a position that he needs $18 mil a yr or he’s walking. There’s a lot of posturing that goes on – plus agents do try to keep market rate for all QBs.

        Bert – in SF during offseason all writers had to do to get comments is to write about Alex Smith. Even an article about what he ate for breakfast could generate hundreds of comments. Half admiring his breakfast choice and the other half wishing he would have choked on it. It’s no big deal. He’s a grown up – he can handle criticism.

        • Nick the Kick

          I’m all for KC picking up his breakfast tab as long as Alex orders off the value menu.

          • preston riley

            Well, when he talks about Andy Reid treating players to cheeseburgers, I cannot imagine that those are coming off some value menu. i am pretty sure Andy takes cheeseburgers too seriously to allow that.

          • Nick the Kick

            You just know Big Red owns 5 Guys stock and is not only the owner, but also a serious client!

          • toperspective

            Well said.

  • tmahawk

    He’s not worth the money.

    • trinity

      I agree

      • Angry Tim

        I agree. AS won a bunch of games with a team already full of pro bowlers and a cake schedule.
        This season will be the test. Offensive line with no experience, less proven talent, and a much harder schedule.

  • Nick the Kick

    I have posted a lot on similar forums on this site about Alex Smith’s contract extension. After giving it some more thought, I say the best move is to table talks until the off season if he won’t sign for less than $15 million per year. The articles argument to “Pay Smith whatever he wants” is childishly simplistic. The NFL has a salary cap and paying him what he wants means not paying guys like Justin Houston what they want. If he goes out and has a 4000 yard, 30 TD year(and I hope like hell he does) than he asks for $20 million per instead of $18. If he sinks up the joint, we don’t have a huge contract weighing everything else down. I don’t think that Smith is worth wrecking our cap over now. As a life long Chiefs fan I hope he proves me wrong (but only after Houston is extended).

    • trinity

      I think they would only franchise him as a last resort. As in they plan to let him go.

      • Nick the Kick

        That’s what I mean, what his agent is reportedly asking for is higher than the franchise tag #. I guess I could get onboard doing that for 1 year in 2015, but only if 2014 is good and free agency, draft, or roster improvement don’t offer a better option. I have been a big fan of Dorsey as GM, but it will be a crippling mistake to trade 2 #2s if he won’t sign a realistic contract. And why is the comparison only made to Cutler and Romo contracts? Big Ben, Phil Rivers, and Brady all make $14million a year. The correct argument isn’t whether Smith is better than Cutler and Romo, it’s whether as a fan you want the Chiefs run by some Jerry Jones yahoo clone or by someone with some sense. I’m damn glad my team isn’t having to contemplate coaxing Brian Urlacher out of retirement. What do you know? Cutler and Romo’s teams fielded historically bad D last year, that couldn’t have been because all their cap was tied up in QB contracts, right?

        • trinity

          Exactly. Both those teams finished 8-8, because they tied a bunch of money up in quarterbacks who haven’t accomplished shit in their whole careers. It made it too difficult for them to go get pieces that would help those guys out, and that’s the key here. That’s why I truly believe the chiefs won’t give Alex that money. Because if they do, they’re effectively ruining any chance he has of being successful. Alex Smith wasn’t new. The chiefs knew exactly what they were getting in him. A guy you can win games with but rarely win games because of. He needs to be carried, and they know that. So they have to know that if they give him a contract like that, that would make it impossible to improve the team around him. In other words, they would be paying him 18 million a year to watch him nosedive, Because there won’t be enough talent to carry him over the finish line.

          • Nick the Kick

            Hey Trinity, ma and you are cool, but I can’t agree wholeheartedly with those sentiments. I think every QB not named Rodgers, Brady, Breed, Manning, and Luck has to becarried. I think Smith could win a championship for us, where we are simpatico is that he can’t with all that money tied up. I think you have to be elite on one side of the ball to be a champion and at least competent on the other. If you look at where KC’s elite potential is, it’s on D. Houston, Poe, Berry, Derrick Johnson, Hali, etc. Where pretty close when you factor in the greatness of Jamal Charles to only needing a guy to play mistake free clock eating football. Alex Smith could be that guy, but not @ anywhere close to that kind of money. If we pay him that kind of money then make a desperate cap destroying 2 year window that makes KC Oakland for five years after the window, I’ll pull my hair out. Dorsey is a GB guy though and I think if Smith won’t play fair we let him walk.

          • trinity

            Damn. I got scared on your behalf at the mention of Oakland lol. That’s a scary thing to contemplate. Even though our opinions differ on Smith and the superbowl, it seems like we’re on the same page about most everything else. You are 100% right about what they should do if Smith doesn’t play fair. Tell me. How do you ultimately see this playing out? Do you think they will sign him, or franchise him? I think ultimately Alex will play fair.

          • Nick the Kick

            I agree. I was listening to local sports radio today and they interviewed Trent Green who knows Smith and Reid pretty well and he predicted a compromise between 13-15 million per year. I guess Alex and his wife really like KC and the only teams Green thought would pay were Arizona and Houston and they are both poor fits for Smith’s skill set. They also talked about how he was a no.1 overall bonus baby and had signed lucrative contracts after and Green had the feeling Smith wasn’t all about the cash, though his agent wouldn’t admit that to KC. I think Big Red Andy working with Smith is also a big deal, he might surprise you if he sticks around, Reid gets the most out of his signal callers.

          • trinity

            That sounds good, and it doesn’t surprise me. My issue with Alex is strictly to do with on the field, and he seems like a decent guy personally. He doesn’t strike me as a guy who would say screw the team, so i don’t have a problem believing they will compromise. And I know about andy Reid, he’s good with QBs, and he can get the most out of guys who are less than elite. I think the chiefs are the best fit for Alex in the league. I don’t picture him being a Bill o’brien guy in Houston, and Arizona just doesn’t seem right personnel wise. I picture them looking towards the next draft more than free agency quarterback acquisitions.

          • Nick the Kick

            By the way, big ups to your Saints having a good 2014. I gotta say I’m intrigued about what Rob Ryan can scheme up with Kenny Vaccaro and Jarius Byrd. I also really wanted Cooks for KC, although I am way cool with edge rush help in Ford. I think the Saints would have been better off taking a pass rush guy as to a KC fan they are loaded @WR. Also what ever happened to WR Nick Toon? He was a baller in college.

          • trinity

            Thanks man :). I agree about us taking a pass rusher. I wish we had a guy like Justin Houston on our D. I’m really excited about Jarius though, and Rob ryan has really turned us around. We were very weak on defense before him. Lol now that you mention it, we should trade draft picks. We could use ford and you guys could take cooks haha. I’m looking for cooks to have a strong rookie
            Campaign for us, especially since sproles is an eagle now. As for toon, he kind of messed up. He has talent, but after a few big mistakes, he didn’t get many more opportunities unfortunately. We’re kind of crowded offensively lol.

        • Blaize Richardson

          Great points and great comparisons. I’m also glad our team isn’t run by someone like Jerry Jones. It just sucks, that because of gm’s like him the QB market is now way over inflated.

        • micah stephenson

          Its not a huge mistake to trade to #2s. Its a bizness. 2 2s for the abilty to win enough games ton sell tickets is cheap.

        • Nick

          The reason those contracts are not used in contract negotiation is because they are already a few years old and outdated because the salary cap keeps getting bigger each year – in two years times Cutler and Romo’s contracts will be dated and people will use whatever Kaep and Alex get and eventually Cam Newton as bargaining pieces.

          I believe Brady and Rivers were pretty close to top pay when they signed the contracts which shows how over payed Cutler is and how much the market when up because of him.

  • Derek Vossberg

    I love Smith! He played great and I hope he stays for a while. All the haters are idiots! Who the hell wants to go back to two win seasons? Not me

    • chuck chaney

      So your saying pay Smith and lose other key players? Its a team sport and we dont know how tge season would have played out with the lose of other players on the team that helped define last season.

      • Derek Vossberg

        How’d we do with shit at QB? Exactly.

    • Deadmeat

      Micah

      • micah stephenson

        Don’t speak for me. I speak for myself. I want to win superbowls while dominating most the teams we play along the way.

  • Stan

    The same thing is going on in 9er land. Should they pay Kap or not? Just like here with Alex. Both teams have very good QB’s and must pay what the market demands. QB’s are not cheap. And even harder to find. Without a good QB forget the playoffs let alone a good or decent season.

    • mj

      Kaep last season had 10 games of less than 200 yards passing and only 4 of more than 250. I’m not sure the stats of Smith but he put up better qb numbers in 15 games than Kaep did in 16. I feel alex, both on and off the field, is the better investment.

    • chiefridgy

      Kap is a flash in the pan

  • trinity

    If the objective is to win a superbowl, no, he’s not worth anywhere near that money. This window of opportunity is over if they give it to him.

    • Kc baby

      you two above me are complete arrogant, ignorant, crapernick fans.. Sigh, pathetic much?!

      • trinity

        Kaepernick doesn’t even have 3 full years on the job, has already matched Alex’s production in numbers, has been to the superbowl, is a better physical talent, with a better arm. So if kaepernick is crap, what does that make Alex Smith? Exactly, so shut up and think before you speak.

        • skwirrl

          Kaepernick has now been in the same offense for 3 years. Alex still hasn’t had 2 full in his entire career.

          Kaepernick has single handedly choked away a Super Bowl win and a NFC Championship game.

          Alex has single handedly dominated 2 playoff games. 1 where he only stopped scoring when 6 offensive starters and their backups went off injured.

          • trinity

            1. That doesn’t explain his lack of skills, which is common knowledge everywhere except here. That contributed to his struggles as well until harbaugh came along and turned him into the best he could be. A competent game manager.

            2. At least kaepernick has actually gotten to the big game. And considering he’s still new, he did it while still in development.

            3. Kaepernick has dominated playoff games as well. The only difference is, he’s actually won them hahaha. The green bay packers are probably having kaepernick nightmares by now, because he is a perfect 3-0 in his short career against them, including two playoff games where he flat out DESTROYED them. In those 2 games, he picked the team up and carried them on his back to VICTORY. Not a lame moral victory where he didn’t win the game, but actual real victory lol. There are only 2 teams in the whole league better than kaps team. Meanwhile, an Alex “led” team is looking up at quite a few teams.

  • toperspective

    Pay the man what he wants? I guess someone doesn’t understand there is a salary cap.

  • tmahawk

    Alex doesn’t want a new deal. Both had m and his agent know we can’t take on what he wants. Only way I’d consider it is if he plays the way he did the first half of our post season loss. Key word loss. He’s not worth it right now.

  • tmahawk

    Bowe,flowers, hali are the Albert’s gone and their going to be the reason alex is gone too. They don’t want a championship.. Pretty sad really. We could be great. But I players we have won’t allow it.

    • steve james

      I am puzzled by this post. If after everything Clark & co have done & the results they achieved you don’t think they are serious I don’t know what to tell you.

      • John Moore

        After everything Clark & co have done????????????? You mean being 30 million under the salary cap every year for 5 years, before last year? Clark Hunt is a greedy short sided loser of an owner. He finally made a good hire, once the fans finally turned on him, after fiddling for years while Rome burned.
        But this management regime is legit. They actually want to win. They will not allow Hunt to interfere and restrict spending. If Bowe and Hali and Flowers do get cut after this year, it will be strictly for football / value reasons. I have confidence that management will do everything they can to win a Super Bowl.

        • steve james

          There was an article on here a couple years ago. It showed how contrary to popular perception they actually had the highest payroll in football. Remember getting Pioli was a coup and Haley was one of the hottest coaching candidates around having just come off a Super Bowl appearance. I think the difference is not that he suddenly started caring but that he finally got a couple guys who know what they are doing and complement each other perfectly.

          • skwirrl

            The last year there was no minimum salary they were the 2nd cheapest team in football.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    Whenever we compare the total value of one quarterback’s contract to another, we have to consider a number of different factors. One of them is the age of the deal. Cutler so happens to have the most recent deal of the four quarterbacks you named. Market changes affect the dollar amount a quarterback can command. Cutler having a richer deal than Manning doesn’t suggest he’s the better quarterback.

    • Nick the Kick

      You are right, what that contract proves is that Cutler had Phil Emery’s nuts in a vice. They didn’t have anyone better and someone out there would have paid Cutler the money, maybe. If you were running Da’ Bears would you have paid him? Look what happened to Smith on the open market 2 years ago. He had to crawl back to SF for 7 million per year. I think somebody probably would pay him now, I’m just not sure it should be us. The great thing is Dorsey’s plums are feeling the breeze this year and the difference between the reported asking price and the tag is close enough to let it play out. Remember also that most guys don’t play out the season on the tag, but work out a team friendlier long term deal. The more I think about it, the more I am in the wait till next year camp.

  • Reggie Flenory

    Yes hes worth a big deal just not 18 mill a yr14 mill a yr is fair

  • jimfromkcj

    And I hate the baloney of Pay the Man. I also hate it when an argument is made that because of foolish moves before, we have to continue making foolish moves. Smith definetly should get a raise and doubleing his wage would put him in the 14 to 15 million range. But I also believe that paying him 18 million before he has won a division title or even won a play off game for us would be pure foolishness.

    • Nick the Kick

      Right on.

      • Nick the Kick

        I didn’t say right on about your wrong headed right wing political thoughts. I am a liberal and damn proud of it!

    • John Moore

      378 yards, 4 TDs, zero INTs and several rushes for key first downs. The best playoff performance by any player in the 50 plus year history of the franchise. And you are blaming him for only putting up 44 points in a playoff game. Rethink your argument.
      You are arguing that he should sign for less than the prevailing, established NFL scale for QBs. Why would he do that? The cap is going up another 10% or so next year, and then probably up and up and up after that. You are missing the big picture.

      • jimfromkcj

        You seem to base your argument on one game, In other words you aren’t thinking straight. You are thinking like the liberals who think we can sustain trillion dollar in the red budgets forever. Sooner or later you have to understand and respect the cap. According to Over the Cap we have around 3 mill to spend. Our starting off line is receiving 9,079,744 dollars. And Fisher who had a very iffy season last year is paid over half that amount. Right at this time we don’t have even one guy on the off line that could start for any other team in our division for sure.

  • Blaize Richardson

    In reference to the article, yes Alex Smith did put our team in the best position to win a playoff game as we’ve been in, in the last 20 years, but it was the team as a whole that brought us to the dance. It was the special teams playing out of this world, it was the defense making plays, it was Jamaal Charles carrying the offense, it was a plethora of things (and yes Alex Smith does deserve credit here as well, just not all of it).

    I love Alex Smith, but he’s not worth sacrificing the teams ability to retain key contributors or add the needed depth to be a serious super bowl contender, because as we’ve seen before offense by itself doesn’t win playoff games (see Chiefs 2004 playoff loss). I really hope a reasonable deal can be worked out, but if not I trust that Andy Reid can create success at that position, just as he has done during his entire career, using a vast variety of different QBs, all with different styles and different backgrounds.

    • Nick the Kick

      Great post.

    • Nick the Kick

      Andy never meet a QB he couldn’t improve or a buffet he couldn’t demolish.

  • Daniel Mayfield

    KC has only seen him play 1 season. 1 SEASON and now ppl are thinking “pay him $126mil”?? You’re crazy!!!
    Yes, he was great in the 1 season. A season with the OL the team had for a while, except Fisher. Now, it’s Smith’s 2nd season with a few new players on the OL.
    Before anybody says anything about it, I know Smith is very mobile and keeps the ball safe…that doesn’t mean he won’t get tackled behind the line.
    I know they got 2 new players, Dressler and Thomas, but he did go to Dexter quite a few times.

    My point is…..a lot of players on the offense were replaced. We don’t know if that will affect Smiths season or not.
    My choice would be to hold out and get the younger key players 1st, tag Smith(if he has a good enough season) and wait until they have the $$$ for his value.
    I don’t think he’s worth that much yet. Prove it 1st in your 2nd season.

  • MattBG

    If the Chiefs were to “Pay the man what he wants”, how would they possibly improve over the next few years? Paying Smith like an elite quarterback would make it nearly impossible to retain key players or to add free agents following the season. While it is refreshing to have a decent quarterback in Kansas City, if paying Alex keeps the team where they are or even causes them to slide, it simply isn’t worth it.

    • mnelson52

      I agree with you, but I don’t think Condon has released information about what he wants the contract to be, nor do I believe Dorsey has told anyone what he is willing to pay. I believe it to be all media speculation trying to guess what’s going on.

  • micah stephenson

    Booooooooo!!!! Booooo! This article sucks!

  • Nick

    This is starting to look like Alex will start the season without an extension. It kind of makes sense from the Chiefs standpoint. If Alex comes out and has a great season they’ll either lock him up long term or Franchise him, so they’re not really risking much by not getting it done now.
    Unfortunately I believe Alex plays better when he know the team believes in him. I think a five year contract and KC has a good chance of winning a Super Bowl in that time.

  • john snyder

    PAY HIM and WIN.

  • micah stephenson

    No. He is not worth a big contract.

  • Jim Harper

    The Chiefs paid handsomely to get him and Alex delivered and then some. He does so much more than most starting QB’s in this league. He is so intelligent that he can recognize defenses presented to him. He is a leader that his teammates will follow. He may not be in the same league as Brady or Manning, but who besides maybe Brees is?