Sep 15, 2013; Kansas City, MO, USA; Kansas City Chiefs strong safety Eric Berry (29) celebrates after a play during the second half of the game against the Dallas Cowboys at Arrowhead Stadium. The Chiefs won 17-16. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

Could Eric Berry Be Traded On Draft Day?


We are 72 hours away from the first round of the NFL draft and the Kansas City Chiefs appear to be in full-on smoke screen mode. Leaks about a potential interest in drafting a quarterback in the first round have merged with their desire to add more picks.

One thing that’s going under the radar may be the a potential trade brewing with safety Eric Berry.

In a column about ten years ago (it seems) Sam Mellinger wrote the Chiefs should consider trading Berry before the draft which is now this week. At the time it didn’t make much sense because free agency was over (for the most part) and the cap space that would open up wouldn’t be worth much to the Chiefs in the short-term. It seemed most of us agreed trading Berry probably wouldn’t be a good idea.

We put the idea and moved on. What were the odds of a trade happening anyway? Then this tweet surfaced from Sporting News and National Football Post today, unprompted:

Huh, weird. Okay, so a national guy throws out an idea near the draft to generate discussion. Or maybe he had a passing conversation with a scout who was charged with adding more smoke to the Chiefs’ smoke machine. But then this…

 

Okay, now this is interesting. Paylor is a guy who will shoot it straight with you. If there is no chance of something happening then he’ll shoot it down right there. He’s not in the speculation business. And then for him to throw fuel on the fire with the John Dorsey mention of box safeties in this draft and this becomes a bit more serious.

Isn’t it a bit odd Mellinger would seemingly out of nowhere write a column about trading Berry, a national guy randomly tweets about it, and then Paylor not only retweets it but adds some credibility to it?

Now, Mellinger, Paylor, or Galko are not saying a trade will happen. But it is interesting there is still a vibe out there that the Chiefs could be willing to deal Berry on draft day. Maybe the smoke the Chiefs are generating at One Arrowhead Drive is being created to slip a Berry trade under the radar.

We’ve discussed why trading Berry would be a bad idea, so lets focus on why the Chiefs may choose to deal him.

1. Berry’s Maximum Value

Berry may not be any more valuable than he is now. Safeties are all the rage after the way Seattle won the Super Bowl this past February. The combination of Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor are vital to the way the Seahawks play defense, and their defense is why they won the Super Bowl.

With the inflated value of safeties around the league and Berry coming off of his third Pro Bowl in four years, now may be the time to get max return in a trade.

2. Berry vs. Alex Smith

When it comes to the salary cap, the Chiefs may be looking at the space it is going to take to re-sign Berry compared to the cost of re-signing Smith and asking themselves which player is move valuable to the Chiefs’ future success. Could the Chiefs sign both? Sure, they could make that work. But they put themselves at risk of having a top-heavy salary cap like they do now.

3. Sum Of Added Picks

Let’s say the Chiefs get three picks for Berry, no matter the round. Will the sum of those picks be worth more than Berry? What if they turn those picks into a starting wide receiver, defensive back, and offensive lineman, and use one of their natural picks to replace Berry? Remember, Dorsey is on record as saying there are a lot of box safeties in this draft.

I’m not sure I’m on board with a Berry trade, and it’s made a bit more difficult not knowing what kind package the Chiefs would get in return in a trade. But the logic behind a deal, assuming the right return, makes sense. It’ll be interesting to see what, if anything, happens on draft day.

 

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  • Montez K.

    I don’t like this one bit….I will be SICK. I’m already trying to get rid of my girlfriends Peyton Hillis jersey…….

  • tm1946

    Trade Berry, no help cap wise, would have to draft a rookie to start in place of him, fans would not all be happy and teams went deep and no one was there to help LBs, CBs, or other S.
    So, keep Berry at least this year, and move on. More like “I got to say something, let’s see – Chiefs trade Berry for 4 #7 picks, someone might print it.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    I’ll be PISSED if this happens.

    • Wes McDougal

      You and me both

    • Hawthorne

      It would have to be some pretty good draft pics. We’d need to be able to draft an acceptable replacement and another instant starter to even think about it.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        MAYBE if we got a king’s ransom in return for him, I could be cajoled into it? No. Absolutely not.

        • Richard Comstock

          if it was 2 first round picks then possibly but we all know that is not going to happen.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Who’d give up two No. 1′s for Berry? That would certainly be something to consider, but I just don’t see that happening.

          • Richard Comstock

            oh i agree it wont happen..im just saying that is the price it would take for REAL chiefs fans to even be able to stomach the thought of losing him…He is worth 2 first round picks to me tho..he has not even reached his full potential either. His man cover skills where a lot better last year. Man im sick we are even having this convo at all

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I think it’s a lot of smoke anyway.

          • Richard Comstock

            i really hope so man!

          • Fidel Negro

            Berry is solid……no need to risk it on a few marginal players

          • jimfromkcj

            Stacy, you are missing the whole picture. Berry is very good, but he is just not worth what his salary is. Saftys just don’t win games. They can sometimes keep you from losing games, but it would be hard to prove that one player did it.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Tell that to the Super Bowl-winning Seahawks. Berry’s already on his third Pro Bowl, four seasons into his career. He’s one of the five or six best in the league at his position and he’s not even 26.

          • Richard Comstock

            PREACH…EB is the man..and safeties ARE EXACTLY what caused the hawks to crush the bronocs..this guy is a casual fan at best.

          • Richard Comstock

            LMFAO…yeah the seahakws safeties had NOTHING to do with that SB..your right my bad…Ed reed had nothing to do with the ravens and certainly Steve Atwater had nothing to do with Denvers..

            how about this..look at who KC has drafted high..Albert, Dorsey, jackson and Berry….ONE GUY is left out of that group the only one who was really worth the pick..lets just throw that in the trash right? and for what? what kinda compensation could you possibly get realistically that would replace the impact of what EB can do.

            you made that comment at the worst time..the safeties on seattle are the BIGGEST reason WHY they did what we couldn’t do..kick the shit out of the donkeys… there is NO way you are even close to correct on this issue.

          • jimfromkcj

            When the score s 40 something to 6 or 7, It is pretty plain that the saftys are not the cause of the win. They might have a great deal of what it took to not get beat, but give credit to the offence which dominated the Broncos. What are the Broncos doing to counter the Sea Hawks next year? they are trying their best to build their defence. So they know where they came up short, much better than you.

          • Richard Comstock

            OHHH you are right..it was DENVER’S defense that kept DENVER’S offense from scoring points…yeah what was i thinking that Seattle’s Defense had something to do with it..come on man your crazy…how about this..POINT TO ONE KC FAN ANYWHERE that agrees with your point of view..JUST ONE!…Earl and Cam MAKE THAT DEFENSE..seriously man do u watch football?…u just said it was Denver s defense that lost them the SB…they didn’t even score 10 damn points man..gosh some people are crazy..how about the offense getting nothing and turning the ball over is what caused them to lose…they routinely gave up tons of points all year and it was not a problem…they where shut down ONCE. come on man use your brain!

          • mnelson52

            The Hawks have good safeties, but they looked better than they are because of the pass rush put on Manning.The safeties that are ranked the highest are almost always on a team with a heavy pass rush. Just think how good our DBs looked last year in the first half of the season. Then the 2nd half when we played the good O-lines and QBs, there was no pass rush from our D-line. That allowed the QBs to step up in the pocket with time to pick us apart. When we had a push up the middle, that forced the QB right into Houston and Hali, which allowed them to get a lot of sacks the 1st half.

        • Hawthorne

          If we could get a 1st and a second, or a 1st 3rd and 5th, I’d think about it. We could grab Calvin Pryor with the 1st and Jimme Ward with the 2nd. We’d have two solid safeties for the future for half the cost of Berry. In the other scenario, we could grab Pryor in the 1st, Terrence Brooks in the 3rd and Jeff Janis in the 5th. Any other year I wouldn’t even consider it, but with this draft, it could kinda maybe almost make sense.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            If we got multiple picks, I’d consider it. I’m just wondering what the purpose would be. Trying to clear future space to get Smith re-signed?

    • Richard Comstock

      Thats all that needs to be said..hes a game changer man..we need one more like him not to get rid of him…All i want for the chiefs is cooks..hes an amazing player i dont care how we get him..i just want him

      • jimfromkcj

        Name the games he has changed since he became a Chief.

        • Richard Comstock

          Do u watch KC football? Do you remember what it was like before he got here? Have you ever seen any other KC safety Dive bomb through the line like a linebacker and blow up a ball carrier? I wont even play that game with you because clearly you don’t really watch the chiefs play, or don’t know what your looking at. You know the best game changers go to Hawaii every year right? You know..the place where EB was last year… lol what games..maybe you forgot what it was like to have Sammie Shitssosmelly or mike brown play safety..just to make you feel better…look at Oakland and Philly last year….he had a pick 6 and 2 passes defended vs phily and 2 picks one for a TD vs the faiders…he’s excellent in run support and has not even reached his prime…his 3.5 sacks from the SS spot 10 passes defended 3 picks and 2 Tds are all garbage right? You sir are crazy to try to debate me on berry being a game changer..you ever heard the old saying..”you don’t know what you have until its gone”… Seriously man how does one claim to be a KC fan and think that EB is not a game changer….The ONLY REASON why this is even a discussion is because he is a game changer..other wise there would be no market unless teams want to pay a player THAT much money despite not being a game changer. SMDH

        • mnelson52

          I could probably name the games that will change if they get rid of him.

  • andyred

    NO! Trade Bowe for a 6th and a box of dominoes pizza…extra large. Screw peytons papa johns :)

  • Wes McDougal

    I don’t know why you guys keep harping on this. It’s a stupid idea! It would take several years for us to replace his talent. He was practically playing LB last year. Restructure EB and AS then think about letting Hali go after this year

  • Pealvin

    Ima whoop someone’s ass if they trade Berry!!! Lol!!

    • micah stephenson

      I got yo back dog! Lol. If they trade Berry ima start a riot!

      • Pealvin

        For real…the house would be coming down! Lol

        • Stacy D. Smith

          I’ll drive. I’m about 10 minutes from Arrowhead Stadium.

  • Lisa Pennington

    I would only be okay with them trading Him if they got a 1st round pick this year for him and a 2nd round pick

  • Alex Rodman

    Don’t trade him. Trade Kendrick Lewis for a couple 7th round picks.

    • Alex

      >> Implying Lewis is worth ANY picks

      Also Kendrick is long gone.

  • redchiefs

    An outhouse will quit stinking if you don’t stir it up all the time. I suppose it is possible, but I really can’t see it happening. I do however see that the Chiefs want to use him in the box all the time and I can still remember how Ronnie Lott and Steve Atwater could hammer any RB in the game. I don’t really see Berry hitting like that, he is a sure tackler, does well in coverage, and can strip the ball too. So the question is, if there’s a Ronnie Lott or Steve Atwater kind of safety who could lay out Christian Okoye kind of RBs AND could provide the kind of coverage Berry already provides…….well, this being a business I will never rule out something unexpected happening in a John Dorsey draft. Berry immediately stepped in as a starter, anyone out there who can step in immediately?

    • mnelson52

      Walker will not help a lot. He had 3 sacks last year and Jackson had 4 and didn’t even play on obvious passing plays. He should be a backup to a top draft prospect.

  • Josh Landers

    I think we should package berry and John Dorsey in a trade for Scott pioli. We should do it before the draft so pioli will have a chance to make all of our picks. >.>

  • ned ewing

    I would rather shop flowers while he still has something left in tank. Jets and 49ers could be teams with interest. Get a 2nd round pick for him and get some cap cushion out of the deal.

    • mnelson52

      I don’t think Flowers will bring a 2nd round pick.

  • KCMikeG

    Mellinger & Galko are just stirring the pot to get attention. I will give you what Perez says Dorsey said but that doesn’t mean there is anything to a Berry trade. I have been a vocal supporter of moving
    Berry back to centerfield where he played his Pro Bowl rookie year. He gets swallowed up too often playing in the box. We can draft a good box safety like Southward in the 4th, Loston in the 5th and Dixon or Boston in the 6th. The top half of our pass defense was the greatest weakness last year and cost us games including the playoff game. Trading away the best player in that group and a NFL sure thing is foolish when we have nothing but uncertainty at the position all for the chance at a couple/three maybes.

  • Michael Lizalde

    As a chiefs fan, I want a Super Bowl! If this happens and gives us a better chance to win, I’m all for it. We are to attached to players when players have no attachment to teams. I honestly don’t want this to happen because I believe you have to have great players to build your team around. Berry is not great. Yet! He’s awesome against the run. Mediocre against the pass. Everyone is replaceable. Berry, himself doesn’t change the way offenses approach our team. Teams are not afraid to throw his way. Because of that, he can be replaced. If we get a 1st, 2nd and 5th we would be stupid not to take it.

  • John Moore

    Supply and demand suggest that if there are a lot of great box safeties in the draft, then Berry has less value right now than he would in other years. But, of course, this draft doesn’t have a lot of box safeties. Rather, it has very, very few very good center-field-type free safeties. In comparison to the free safeties, sure, there are many box safeties.

    • mnelson52

      and most likely none as good as our last years pick in Commings.

      • mnelson52

        I don’t think D&R will say their last years pick is a bust yet and try to replace him.

  • Ty

    Man will people leave this Eric berry trade shit along, my god if we should trade anyone it should be DBowe or flowers possibly Hali but berry is a upcoming leader/anchor on a defense and he will take the reigns from DJ when he retires, I’m a die hard chiefs fan and I’m sick of rebuilding, so I’m all for paying the man and being strapped for cash, he’s earned it.

  • Outback Chief

    I wouldnt want to lose him but if we did I’d want a 1st 2nd and a lower pick or 1st pick this year and another next year nothing less would make me satisfied

  • Keane Santos

    Let’s say they get a first and a third for him – which is realistic, so you’re basically taking a chance on an unknown prospect so you can pick up a third? Then what happens if your replacement pick busts. This is completely stupid unless someone offers us a ridiculous deal (two firsts and a second) and that ain’t happening.

  • TwistedLefty

    more smoke, dumb idea, Flowers and Berry need to stay.

  • Tra Tha Chief

    If the Theory of Kam and Earl are tools for a super bowl victory then why would we get rid of the closest piece of that theory we have in Berry…. For unproven ROOKIES…. I hate that this is even being spread around the web…. Its HOGWASH…. When was the last time a pro bowler who was 25 or under was traded for draft picks…. NEVER!!!! and on the situation about Dorsey saying there are a lot of good box safeties in this draft…. Good so Berry can drop back into coverage and do what he does best and thats get his hands on the ball…. READ BETWEEN THE LINES!!!! He will draft a safety this draft to fill in just like abdullah, and demps did…. But again I’m for TEAM COMMINGS…. He would have the fastest 40 out of all of the safety prospects in this years draft…. GO chiefs

    • mnelson52

      I agree. If people really trust D&R, then they have to believe they drafted Commings for a reason. Commings is a hard hitter, faster than any safety in the draft and was a center fielder in baseball. So why would you waist a draft pick there when we have so many other needs?

  • jimfromkcj

    If I am reading over the cap right, trading Berry would save 5 and a half million this year and the same amount again in 2015. Now if we could trade him for 2 or 3 picks in the first 3 or 4 rounds, it would be criminal not to do so. It would be a first step in getting our cap under control and we could look forward to replacing Hali and Bowe and flowers. We have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we couldn’t win with them with Cassel and now Smith. So isn’t it time to get beyond these guys and go for some young guys with some upside and start over. I don’t see any of the QB’s in this draft that I prefer over Alex, but we must proceed like we are going all in if a Luck comes along. If we have all the pieces in place when one comes along we could trade our whole draft to move up for him.

  • jimfromkcj

    Stacy, I am sure that your pissed off state would pass pretty quickly if we managed a win over Peyton and the Broncos.

  • Erik Hild

    Getting rid of one of the top 3 players on the team for unproven talent is a waste. Why in the world would you ever get rid of Berry? The dude is a staple in our secondary and without him our pass defense would regress immensely. I can’t wait till Thursday has come and gone so I don’t have to read these gossip columns anymore.

  • Roger Mihalko

    “I think one of the talking head reporters said we are looking at drafting a kicker in the first round.”

    Sheesh I cant wait until this is over. We wont trade berry or draft a QB. We will sign AS after the draft, get a safety, guard,Corner, Linebacker, WR, and DE in this 6 pics, what order they get picked is unknown until they are picked.

  • freshmeat62

    What’s the most they could get for him, a 1st rd pick? I don’t think they could get any more. And then they select another S to replace him? So then they have an unproven rookie instead of a proven pro-bowler? Don’t think so!!!

    • jimfromkcj

      freshmeat, you seem to contradict yourself. If no one is willing to give more than a 1st rd pick for Berry, who is the best judge of his talent? Those who have to judge talent for a living or you as a casual fan? Having made that point, I think it possible to get 3 picks in the first 4 rounds, And in this deep draft, it could allow us to get 2 1st rd caliber wide receivers and a couple of 1st rd caliber off linemen, and still address corner back and safty as well.

  • freshmeat62

    The Chiefs are fine on cap space. Next year is when I think we can see some big changes. Unless Hali, Flowers, and Bowe restructure their contracts, I can see all of them gone.

    • tm1946

      Not sure you are correct. This year we are not fine on cap space. We did not find anyone so far to play for the little cash we have left. Next year we will lose one of the three for sure, maybe more. All starters and will have to be replaced, doubt there is anyone currently on roster who can do this. That means Dorsey has to draft a starting OLB, CB, and #1 WR this year plus what we are missing right now, sort of asking a lot from this draft.

      • micah stephenson

        They should draft a QB. Then when Ass11 leaves next yr they have some money to resign J.Houston. I am not feeling losing J.Houston.

        • tm1946

          At least you are consistent. Wrong but consistent. Ask, bert, how many QBs have the Chief’s drafted and could play the game at any level other than Jr. College. But you want to take another chance because you are not in love with Smith. Could only set the team back 4-5 years, someone tell Dorsey Micah has the answer, run quickly.

          • micah stephenson

            We will b stuck in neutral for as long as we have A.Smith.

          • micah stephenson

            Dude. We ain’t drafted a QB in like forever.

  • berttheclock

    When Mellinger first mentioned it, I thought it was a ridiculous idea. However, when, I began checking the needs of other teams in the draft, I discovered Detroit at the 10 slot was the highest team in the draft which really needed to upgrade at safety. So, I began floating the idea of trading up with the Lions. Yes, I can understand the many moans and groans about losing Berry, but, before hurling missiles my way, just think about the several players which would be available at 10 and not at 23 for the Chiefs and throw in the extra draft picks the Lions would give up. That changes the equation as it opens up the draft options for Dorsey.

    • berttheclock

      As for those who could be available at 10 and not at 23, consider Mike Evans, Ryan Shazier, Ha Ha Dixon, Aaron Donald, Calvin Pryor, Beckham and for the micah contingent, Bortles or Johnny Football.

      • tm1946

        Wouldn’t the Chiefs have to draft another S to replace him and hope to get similar production….. might be asking a lot.

        • berttheclock

          Yes, but, Dorsey has said there are box safeties deeper in the draft. I don’t think anyone will truly replace Berry, but, this is a deep draft and the Chiefs need more picks to build a team of 53. What the detractors of Berry do not understand is how he is used so much by Sutton to rush the passer. He is used differently than Thomas of the Seahawks. I would hate to see him go, but, there comes a time when teams need tweaking to get better over all.

          • tm1946

            Of the many box safeties available how many are as good as Berry. But whatever. Trade him, get a first and second, then move on.
            NFL Channel suggested that bridgewater will be available in the 2nd round, would the Chiefs use a second to get the next QB of the future? That is if they could replace Berry and still have a 1st round pick for other needs, a little to dreamy for me.

          • berttheclock

            Consider Aaron Donald at 10. Many say he would not fit a 3-4 scheme, but, he could be terrific in sub-defensive nickle and dime packages as a rusher. Jackson, the run stopper was in on 509 snaps, last season, while, Bailey was in on 453. Donald could replace Bailey on those snaps. He is smaller, but, extremely aggressive. No, he is not the Jackson run stopper, but, he would fit Suttons sub packages.

          • micah stephenson

            Sh*****t! Who say who won’t fit a 3-4 DE? He will b a monster at that spot. One of my favorite players in the draft. Arron Donald will b a future nfl star!

      • micah stephenson

        Hell yea. If you move up that high, get a QB.

  • oldchiefsfan

    We could go ahead trade Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali and Justin Houston for a bunch of unproven draft picks too.

  • Marcus Jay

    I wish my Chiefs would trade Berry!, nd watch how fast I won’t be a fan anymore. . Nd I actually love my team!

  • micah stephenson

    Uh no on trading Berry! Fire Dorsey and Ried if they do that. He will b the best safety in the nfl soon. I don’t care if he makes 10 mill.

  • oldchiefsfan

    I recall people wondering why we had so much Cap money and even complaining because we didn’t spend it to get good players. Now that we spend right up to the limit it’s a bad thing?

  • GDL40

    Just saw on NFL network that the Chiefs are “willing to deal Brandon Flowers” ……THAT I wouldn’t mind, of course hoping we get something good (2nd rnd pick maybe?-high 3rd) …….but Berry ?????!!!!!! NOOOO !
    If it was for cap reasons, I would rather trade A Smith, someone will bite, if not release!

  • Young_september

    We could trade Berry for a washing machine, a bag of skittles and ryan leaf. Everybody wins

  • Olivier

    I read a rumor that Rams would send both their first for 1.23 + Berry. Not likely IMO.
    And more likely, if a trade involving a player is somewhat bound to happen, it will not be Berry, it would be Tamba. Sutton needs an excellent pair of safeties, you just don’t trade one of the better in the game just to draft another one who would be be rawer, no matter how skilled an pro ready he may be ; that’s a silly mistake, even to grab picks when you need them.
    There’s enough pass skilled rushers in the draft to compensate Tamba if they decide to trade. That’s the only player I see who can be traded now without loosing too much (in terms of “commercial” value ; onfield there’s still a lot to argue about).

    • kingBobDole

      With that cap hit they will be lucky to get a 2nd and a 7th.

  • Mr. ALWAYS RIGHT

    I would be beyond pissed if they trade Berry!!!!!! The “lot of box safeties in this draft” argument is weak. We have one of the top 3 safeties in the league with Berry. He is a huge part of our d-fense. Why trade him for even a first round pick? He was a first round pick who has surpassed the hype. He is exactly what you want in a first round pick so why trade him for someone who might or might not work out? Pisses me off that this is even being talked about by the media.