Time to familiarize ourselves briefly with what yet another team is looking for this Draft season. We’ve already covered the two earliest pickers in the 2010 Draft, the Rams and the Lions. Now it’s time for team #3, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Thanks to Dustin Staggers from The Pewter Plank, FanSided’s resident Bucs expert and blogger, who emailed me this nugget:
With the third pick in the draft, the Buccaneers should be targeting a defensive lineman. Since the departure of Simeon Rice and Warren Sapp, the Bucs have not been able to generate pressure on the QB . Ndamukong Suh would be the logical choice, but I don’t see how he makes it past the Lions, if the Rams were to pass on him. Gerald McCoy would be a great choice for the Bucs, but once again, I don’t know if he’ll make it past the Lions. That brings us to our 3rd pick.
Most pundits seem to think the Bucs will target Eric Berry, S from Tennessee. While Sabby Piscatelli is awful at SS and I definitely think that is an area of need, I have reservations about drafting a SS number 3. I love the guy personally, but the third pick is very well compensated, hence the reason MLB’s and Safeties are not normally drafted there. Carlos Dunlap from the Florida Gators would be a great choice for the Bucs in my mind. His physical skills are off the charts, he is big, can stop the run and penetrate and get to the QB. He will wow scouts physically at the combine and shoot up draft boards.
Carlos Dunlap, eh? Hmmm… in my head I have him lasting until the second round and going to Oakland. I can’t see him getting selected that early, or really in the first round at all.
When we heard from Ethan Novak of Ramblin’ Fan about the Rams, we had a first-time commenter named Jeff post this:
I am friends with a member of the Rams staff and he implied a possible deal in the works with Tampa trading multiple picks for Suh and the Rams taking either Berry from Tenn or Bradford. I think that has a strong chance to unfold.
I don’t mean to dismiss Jeff, but I seriously have my doubts. Teams simply can’t trade out of the top selection. Dustin of the Pewter Plank is similarly skeptical, although he left the door open:
Would depend on the picks involved. There are a bevy of players who I think could be available for a 2nd round pick (Anquan Boldin) being the main one, that trading a 2nd or 3rd round pick to move up two spots could be detrimental to us in the long run. It would just depend on the picks involved.
Check out the NFL Draft Trade Value chart. Dustin’s right on the money — the Bucs would have to trade their first, their second, and their third to move up two spots.
Go to The Pewter Plank for discussion about everything Bucs. If Dustin’s latest update is any indication, he’s having a small crisis of faith, so buy him a beer why dontcha. It’d make the guy’s day.
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Bucs want Dorsey, or they should and we should trade him
The only reason I’d trade Dorsey is if I was certain McCoy would fall to us. I think McCoy would be an All Pro DE in the 3-4.
So, if McCoy is available at #3 and the Bucs really wanted Dorsey instead, I’d pull the trigger.
That said, there is absolutely no chance that happens.
Why would we trade Dorsey? I can’t wrap my head around this argument.
He is going to be a fine DE for us. Why would we trade a position we already have and create another hole. We have freaking Rudy Niswanger playing C. We should be worrying about stuff like that,
Dorsey was a # 1 pick, highly rated and is growing. People that think Dorsey is a bust are way, way, way premature.
I am not seeing a Dorsey trade either. Right now, he is our best D-lineman.
I think we rated 30th against the run, why would we have to keep a 4-3 DE who was average. Trust me, by the time the draft rolls around it will make sense. I really think DE Seymour will be in KC along with a starting NT. I don’t think Pioli wants to have two DE’s with a combined three years experience. Dorsey is a better 4-3 guy, which increases his value for a trade. I think Vrabel will be gone, so Seymour takes the leadership role under Crennel, he will help make Jackson a true #3 pick. I would rather have Jackson, Pickett and Seymour-than what we had last year.
As far as Center goes, I completely agree. Signing Seymour and trading Dorsey allows us to fill at least one, maybe two other holes that we wouldn’t be able to fill.
I think many are foolishly loving Dorsey, hoping that he won’t be a Ryan Simms. But none of that matters, Carl would keep Dorsey and keep running him out there in a 3-4. Even if he would most help our team by being traded.
Also, I don’t think the Raiders will be able to retain Seymour. He didn’t even want to show up after the trade. All of his post season comments are about leverage, he wants a payday some where else! They have cap issues, even if there isn’t a cap.
I’m sorry but if McCoy fell to us and Eric Berry wasn’t on the board, I’d go with McCoy. I don’t care if Dorsey’s still on the team — hell I’d just go back to 4-3 if I could land Dorsey, Jackson, and McCoy. McCoy is going to be an All Pro DE if he goes to a 3-4 defense. But if he goes to us, I’d love him.
Hali
Dorsey
McCoy
Jackson
Hells yeah baby.
I’ve never even entertained the idea though, because it just won’t happen. McCoy’s wanted by all three of the top teams.
Dorsey won’t be a Ryan Sims, even if he does turn out to be no good.
Sims didn’t care. Didn’t try. Had no heart.
Dorsey is all heart, and works his ass off. They’ll never compare.
We are not going back to a 4-3. Is that a typo in post #6. I think he is a 4-3 guy.
I have had this out there for months, everyone is so concerned with who we are losing (Dorsey). Not one person ever gets the fact that we would be gaining a PROVEN CHAMPIONSHIP 3-4 DE, nor does anyone mention the one or two very high picks that we could get for Dorsey. If we worked my propsed deal with Tampa, for their two second rounders, we could draft McClain,Spikes,Pouncey,Chad Jones and maybe Tate or Mike Johnson. All Starters and upgrades more than likely.
102, The Raiders are probably going to tag Seymour. Why trade a first round for him only to let him walk in a year?
AL. Tagging him for 13 mil. I think Al Davis thought he was one Seymour away from the promise land. After this year, he has more holes than he did last off season.
It is hard to guess what they will do. Maybe he came to camp last year with the understanding that a tag wouldn’t be used??
Oakland has a lot of money tied up in very unproductive players/areas.
102win:
Let’s see what happens with Seymour. I don’t think you can count on him being available.
I just got the greatest idea. Hear me out:
Group Cassel/Dorsey/Bowe/T Jax and send them to Tampa Bay. In return we get their 1st and2nd picks this year. It’s absolutely fool proof.
H/T to Merlin on Rudy Niswanger. BEST PLAYER EVAR
Cassel,Dorsey,Bowe, & Jackson for Tampa’s 1st and 2nd????….LOL….so you would trade 3 , THREE , first round picks along with a 2nd round pick for a 1st and a 2nd???…. maaaan, I hope you’re joking. Not to mention 3 of those 4 could be all pros, even with the Chiefs. … I don’t know about trading Dorsey, I’d give it another year and see where he’s at. I REAALLLYYY hope we take Berry at #5, and if he’s gone by then, I think the chances of a team wanting to trade up for Clausen or Bradford are good, so I say we do it…
we need, NEED, a pass rusher and glenn has not been the man. he sure does play d -tackle well, but not end. also dorsey has missed games both these last two years. if we can trade him and sign seymour, bring it on.