Chiefs Offseason: Land Of A Thousand Dances

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Thank you Wilson Pickett for popularizing the song “Land Of A Thousand Dances” because as much as the early 1960s became an explosion of dances inspired by that new rage called “rock-n-roll,” the Kansas City Chiefs offseason has become an explosion of questions, all of which must eventually be “worked out” like some form of the Watusi.

Fans and sportswriters alike have commented that the new later date for the NFL draft in May has given this offseason a feel of endlessness. The result is not only more questions but more time to raise questions, and there are plenty of those to go around.

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    Mays is nasty and intimidating. The defense needed that kind of presence. I’m excited to have him here.
    Cooks would’ve been my pick of the scenario you posed.

    • berttheclock

      Obtaining Manziel would give the Chiefs excellent trade bait, as well.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Yes it would.

        • berttheclock

          Hey, Stacy, have you ever looked at Ka’Deem Carey of ASU as a possibility? Will probably go in the 2nd round, but, could fall to third. Not great straight ahead speed, but, is very shifty and has short bursts of speed and power, plus, he has excellent hands coming out of the backfield. I remember the Pats beating the Colts by running the ball down their throats with Blount gaining 166 yards. We lost two quality backs against the Colts. The Pats did limit Hilton a bit by only allowing him 4 catches out of 6 targets and they had 4 INTs on Luck, but, it was that running which really hurt the Colts.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Are you asking if I’ve thought about him as a prospect for the Chiefs?

          • berttheclock

            Yes

      • micah stephenson

        Yea it would. We could trade Alex Smith immediately!!! Lol.

        • trinity

          Lol! Imagine how great the team would be if they could get a playmaker under center. They have just about everything except a QB and a recieving corp to make a superbowl run. I bet the recieving will be addressed in the draft

          • berttheclock

            How very happy I am that Clark Hunt never spent a moment’s time trying to hire either one of you as GM of the Chiefs. He picked the right man and the right man has made the right moves, especially, at bringing in Alex Smith to lead the Chiefs.

          • trinity

            Hahaha if you call being stuck in neutral making the right moves, then ok.

          • micah stephenson

            To me, untill you get the qb position fixed nothing else matters. Sinse they refuse to draft a QB, I can see them get n a wr. Besides they need to draft one anyway sinse they can’t attract one in free agency who would want to play with Ass11. If we could get Watkins, Evans, or Lee, I’d b cool with that.

          • matt youngberg

            How in the he’ll do you think the chiefs need a qb? Do you even know football?

          • micah stephenson

            Are you new? I’ve explained it a million times already. I know football very well.

          • matt youngberg

            Oh no I’m not new . I have been a chiefs fan for 30 years and lived in Kansas city for over thirty years. If you think the chiefs need a qb then you dont know football . It’s has simple has that

          • micah stephenson

            Well you are entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to my opinion. You must think he is good enough, I think/know we can do better. Everybody has they own standards. Some are higher some are lower.

          • KCMikeG

            He has sour grapes over Geno Smith. Can’t let it go even though Smith was better. There’s no hope for him.

          • berttheclock

            No, micah, you’ve blathered nonsense for over a million times.

          • micah stephenson

            Your always spose to b trying to upgrade your players. especially at the most important position on the field. When you learn about football come holla at me.

          • matt youngberg

            And they are upgrading there postions and qb isn’t a priority right now

          • micah stephenson

            That’s why we have not won a playoff game in forever and will not b winning a superbowl anytime soon.

          • matt youngberg

            Alex Smith is a top ten qb in the nfl . How can you say that qb is a position of need?

          • matt youngberg

            I have forgotten more about football then you will ever know

          • micah stephenson

            I’ve played and coached football so I know a lil something. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that we could use an upgrade at QB.

          • berttheclock

            So very sad for those you “coached”.

          • trinity

            You made an excellent point about free agency, and I was thinking that as well. It would be hard to attract a reciever to alex smith through free agency. Like Emanuel Sanders ditching them at the last minute to go play with Peyton. I knew desean wasn’t going to come there. Certainly the salary cap is an issue. But also, desean would have been a deep threat playing with a game manager. Like oil and water. I agree with you that even tackling the reciever need, you’re still stuck in neutral if you don’t have a QB

          • micah stephenson

            What would we do with a D.Jackson? He a deep threat wr. We need a check down wr. Lol. Yea we will prolly draft a wr 1st rd, so we have 3 1st rd picks at wr. With a QB like Alex you need 3 or 4 1st rd picks at wr. Lol

    • micah stephenson

      I likey the QB at 23 ideal. What about Carr at 23? What about trading up for Mike Evans, M.Lee, or Eric Ebron?

  • berttheclock

    Geez, did you know there are only going to be five days between the Kentucky Derby on May 3rd and the draft? How many things can I keep on my plate as I am frantically trying to find any horse which can beat California Chrome, a very legitimate favorite from Santa Anita, as I abhor chalk. Plus, C Chrome is trained by one of old fellas in the esteemed Art Sherman from the Bay. See how some of those Bay types can really move up other teams such as the Chiefs and even horses?

    However, as I was one of the first to tout Cooks, I’ll stay with him while crossing my fingers there will be a trade up and the Chiefs can pick up extra talent as this is a deep draft. I know you don’t like that move to 30, but, the third round will find more depth for the Chiefs and, as the Chiefs found out the hard way last season, there is a major need for quality depth.

  • trinity

    None of the quarterbacks in this draft inspires confidence, so I wouldn’t take any of them, even though I think the chiefs definitely do need a quarterback. And no, they have not done nearly enough to keep up with the Broncos.

    • freshmeat62

      The Chiefs did what they had to do to build a team. It’s not just a competition w/ Denver for only the upcoming season, but to be the best they can this season and the succeeding seasons.

      The Chiefs and Broncos are in completely different situations. The Chiefs are in the 2nd season of building a team that will be good for every year. The Broncos are putting all their eggs in the 2014 basket because Manning is probably in his last year or 2. The way Manning looked in the SB, it may be too late for the Broncos. He looked what he is, old. He will still have the mental part to carry him, but physically, I think he may be done.

      I remember Montana’s last year. After that Monday nite game in Denver, he started looking old fast. He didn’t have the arm any more, and his decline was noticeable pretty fast. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Denver finished 3rd in the division behind KC and SD.

      • trinity

        Hahahahaha by “i wouldn’t be surprised at all”, you mean “in your wildest dreams”. The Broncos are head and shoulders above everyone in that division, and next season will be a battle between KC and san Diego for second best. Yes, Peyton is old. He was old when he breezed through that division last year, and he was old when he breezed through that division the year before too. Added to the fact that they have majorly improved on defense by adding 3 pro bowlers, and the fact that the chiefs and chargers have done nothing of any consequence this offseason, you saying they will lose the division simply doesnt make any sense. The Broncos have to worry about the NFC powers, and the patriots. No threat is coming out of that division.

        • micah stephenson

          This is all true. We should just build for the future. Start with a QB, then get some wrs.

          • trinity

            Definitely. But what’s your opinion on this QB class though? I know you guys could get a quality reciever in this draft. I’m not at all sold on any of the QBs though. If you had the chance to draft one, who would you take?

          • micah stephenson

            Any of the top 4 qbs but they will all b top ten picks. I like wrs Watkins, Evans, Lee, TE E.Ebron, DT/3-4 DE A.Donald, DBs Ha-Ha and Pryor, CBs Gilbert, Dennard, or Fuller, if all them gone I might reach a lil for TE J.Amaro.

          • trinity

            Yeah, it may be a reach, but I agree amaro is solid. Watkins and Evans will be long gone by the time you guys are on the clock, but there are other options.

    • micah stephenson

      They could draft a qb if one of the top 4 fall to them. Sit em for a yr, then he should b ready to go next yr.

  • berttheclock

    The Chiefs are set at QB with an excellent one in Alex Smith. What the Chiefs really need to defeat the Broncos is a quality nickle back who can mess with the timing of their slots and make Peyton take more time trying to throw those quick passes. That will give Walker a better chance to emulate Cliff Avril. Quality pass rushing and quality nickle back play go hand in hand as equals in stopping such as Peyton. The Chiefs need to find a Walter Thurmond equivalent.

    • trinity

      They are going to need offense to defeat the Broncos. Having a great defense certainly seems to be the logical conclusion. Especially after how the Broncos got killed in the superbowl. But look at peytons career stats. In his entire career, do you know his record when teams score fewer than 21 points against him?105-5……….yeah, in his entire career, the guy has only lost 5 times when teams score fewer than 21 points. In two regular season losses to the colts and pats, they still scored 33 and 31 respectively. The chiefs are in that 17-20 point a game range generally, and that is not going to cut it against the Denver Broncos.

      • micah stephenson

        Lol. Dam. Why you hit him upside his head with those numbers? Lol.

        • trinity

          Hahaha the situation called for it. Lol

          • berttheclock

            Don’t the Farrelly brothers need the two of you on the set for the new sequel to the “D and Der” movies?

      • berttheclock

        Solid defense wins championships, not offense. You are talking about the Sonics when they relied on traps to set up steals and dunks against lesser teams and they racked up many season wins, but, what really killed them in the finals against the Bulls is they did not any power at center for half court basketball and they didn’t possess any half court defense.

        Another analogy was Gene Autry bringing in Reggie Jackson and a top hard hitting second baseman from the Orioles and declaring the Angels were going to score seven to eight runs a game. But, he forget his pitching staff was going to give up 9 and 10 runs a game. You just stated the Broncos scored 33 and 31, yet they lost both games. Bringing in an injury questionable Talib and a fading star in Ware is not going to change very much. Don’t be fooled by the Glitz and Glare of pure hype.

        • trinity

          Yes, you do need solid defense to win a championship, I agree. Nobody can deny that, but at the same time, nobody can deny the stat I gave you. It speaks for itself. I pointed out the pats and colts games not to justify the losses, but to make you aware that even in the losses, they still topped 30. That was basically just a way of saying that to beat them, it takes offense, and I stand by that.

          As for ware, I don’t kid myself. I know that he is getting older and his play wasn’t the same last year. But I also know that he was struggling with an injury last year, and even still he racked up 11.5 sacks, and the year before he was the typical great demarcus ware. I will check in a second to make completely sure I got his sack total right, but I’m pretty sure I just did. If he comes in next season and isn’t productive, I will be the first person to acknowledge it. But considering his greatness overall throughout his career, I am willing to reserve judgement and give him the benefit of the doubt. I think they did well this off season.

          • berttheclock

            We scored 44 on the Colts, yet lost. I would love to have a Cooks or Beckham at 23, but, I believe the defense needs more support than the offense. The Pats did better shutting down the receivers of the Colts and even though Hilton gained 103 yards on 4 catches, the others were confined which led Luck into throwing 4 picks. Plus, the Pats did not beat them in the air, but, they had Blount ground pound for 4 TDs. In our Colts loss, we ran out of quality RBs to take time off the clock.

            The Seahawks demolished the Myth of Manning without using any offensive fire power. They beat them with solid defense. The only score by the Broncos came on a Gimme of dropping back into prevent.

          • trinity

            The superbowl performance was certainly horrific I will give you that. But it’s not enough to override a full career. I still say the chiefs will need offense. In the regular season the Broncos averaged 37 points a game. I think the offense will be just as prolific next season. Whether or not that will be enough for them to win the superbowl is a valid concern after what happened with Seattle. All I’m saying is that I don’t predict the chiefs holding them back.

          • ladner morse

            DeMarcus Ware had 6 total sacks last year along with 40 combined tackles. Did you know that the Chiefs had 9 players… nine… with more tackles than Ware in 2013? Last year, Ware had neck problems in September… back issues in early October… a strained right quadricep (thigh) later in October and was out three games then… in December he had back issues again but ended the year with a pinched nerve in his elbow which he’s now had surgery on.

            Does he have something left? Sure. I guess. I’m just glad it’s the Broncos risk and not the Chiefs.

          • trinity

            9 chiefs players had more sacks than demarcus ware? Ok? Congratulations. Neither me nor anyone on here to my knowledge has compared demarcus ware to the chiefs pass rushers, so I’m not sure why you brought that up. Everyone knows the chiefs have a good defense. That’s universal knowledge. As far as whether demarcus has anything left in the tank, nobody can know for sure. But considering his greatness in the past, I think he’s earned the benefit of the doubt. Until he gives me reason to think otherwise, I think it’s a good signing for them.

          • ladner morse

            Firstly, I did not compare Ware to the Chiefs pass rushers… I said 9 Chiefs players had more “TACKLES” than DeMarcus Ware…. not sacks. By bringing the Chiefs defense into this conversation… I was merely stating that the presence of Ware does not make the Broncos better… that indeed… the Chiefs have many other players who out performed Ware in the second most critical category on defense: tackles.

            I live in the Dallas area and Jerry Jones, as well as a host of fans and media here, believe Ware has already, “given reason to think otherwise.” Many fans and media here believe Ware’s performance in 2013 was lackluster and that he’d given up. I haven’t come across a Dallas fan yet who didn’t understand why the Cowboys let him go. Most fans here are saying… “I hope the Broncos know what they’re getting.”

          • trinity

            Ok. I simply don’t care about that. Dallas fans thinks he gave up? Maybe he did. Maybe he did not. Let me reiterate. I will reserve judgement on demarcus ware until I see him for myself. If he turns out to be great, then great. If he’s cooked, it would suck, but it’s ok. The Broncos are so good, that it’s a risk they can afford to take, especially playing in the division that they do. We’ll see how it goes.

    • micah stephenson

      Do you remember the defense creating turnovers setting the offense up for a lot of easy scores? 44 pts is not a normal thing. Now if the d gon set them up like that every single game then mayby they can score 44 more often.

      • KCMikeG

        Do you remember we didn’t have Charles and Davis so no run game?

      • Troy Utt

        Aside from a couple of picks the offense held held their own, they were scoring early & often from anywhere on the field! Just Sayin’!

  • berttheclock

    Remember fans, if you forget any of the “lyrics” written by Laddie above, you can just start singing “na na na na na na na na………….”

    You could even sing it to “The Land of a Thousand Tomahawk Chop Dances”

  • freshmeat62

    To me the delicious part of this draft is that we don’t have a clue who the Chiefs will or should take. Almost every position is up for grabs. Does that mean they have lots of holes, or that they have a lot of good players all over the field, and we’re just trying to upgrade some positions?

    Last year we had it pretty much narrowed down to a LT. Would it be Fisher or Joeckel. Who knows the first 22 taken, and then when the Chiefs are on the clock will they trade down for more picks, making those hours of waiting to see who Chiefs take in the first rd in vain. Picks that deep in the draft usually don’t get traded much in advance of when they’re on the clock.

    And this moving the draft back another week or so, I don’t like. It may be in the top 10 of Goodells worst ideas. To me the worst is trying to put the NFL in Europe. This is an American game, leave it here. Creating more teams just makes it that much harder to win a championship. It’s already hard enough.

    • ladner morse

      If the Chiefs can find a trade partner for moving down and getting more picks I’d be psyched out of my mind. I’ve done so many mock drafts now I 100% believe the Chiefs could pick up quality players in every round… so the more the merrier in this draft for sure!

      • KCMikeG

        Only if they were early round #2 & #3 picks though.

  • preston riley

    Being from SF, we’ve had so many QBs end up with chiefs and I have always rooted for them. It is good for football when Chiefs are good. for me, interest in KC goes back to when I first started watching as little kid in early 1970s. Niners were a playoff team then but always blacked out and no one really seemed to like them anyway.

    Raiders were always on tv. I remember one raiders chiefs game in KC. Fans seemed crazy. In one section there was a sign that said “Hang Mother Hubbard!” And there was either a pic or a little dummy, cannot recall, of Marv hubbard – No. 44 – hanging. That always stayed with me. I was hooked as an NFL fan.

    As for Alex. He may or may not be the answer. i think he will have a real good year but he can be frustrating. I will say this – as one local SF writer once said, people are fixed in their opinoins of Alex almost to the point in having a personal interest in it. People will say what Alex cannot do, and when he does do it there will always be reasons why it doesn’t really count.

    His fans in SF always complained about bad coaching and lack or real WRs. Now that he is gone, Kap fans are blaming poor coaching (the OC) and lack of weapons to explain Kaps many 200 yrd passing games and lack of redzone success. the more things stay the same…