The Chiefs Could Cut Bait And Run With…


Two games and out? It could happen. In literally 8 days the Chiefs season could be over and the fur could fly. Many, including myself, have assumed this coming offseason would not have as much change over in personnel as last offseason. However, get ready for some shock-and-awe because this could be the big one. You hear that Elizabeth. I’m coming to join ya honey.

What if the Chiefs cut ties with some of their biggest names? Well, names we’ve come to know and love… and who happen to have rather large contracts coming up in 2014. Let’s take a look before the surgeon places scalpel to the chest.

 

Branden Albert

Albert’s 9.8 million dollar contract is prohibitive and Albert is expendable. No, I don’t think Donald Stephenson is nearly the player that Albert is but Albert thinks he’s a franchise player and just because the Chiefs franchised him doesn’t mean he is. At least, I don’t believe he plays that way. For another team to trade for Albert would mean he gets another 2 mil added to this current rate and that would be crazy for an above average player like Brandon A.

Odds Albert will be moved: 85%

 

Tamba Hali

Tamba Hali is not one of these players. It was more likely that his 2013 contract would have been restructured last offseason considering he’s been the highest paid player on the Chiefs payroll at 12.2 million (and a cap number of 15.4 mil) but, next year his contract calls for around 6 million which is doable and seems fair given his above average output for an OLB. Hali has also become one of the low-voice but high energy high effort players teams covet and I’m sure the Chiefs brass consider him a core player and a leader on and off the field. One who’s not going anywhere.

Odds Hali will be moved: 3%

 

Brandon Flowers

Flowers is a candidate for release. Not a popular choice? It could happen. With his play taking a downward turn this season and his salary going from 3.3 Mil (6.6 cap hit) in 2013 to 5.2 mil (10. cap hit) in 2014, since flowers is no longer the Chiefs best CB, he could be replaced by a number of equal or better options in the off season for a much lower price. Before the season began, I expected Flowers to continue to ascent this year and possibly make the Pro Bowl. He seems to have tailed off in a big way.

Odds Flowers will be moved: 75%

 

Dunta Robinson

Robinson is due 3.2 mil (5.3 cap hit) in 2014. That just can’t happen. However, I didn’t think he was worth the contract the Chiefs gave him when he was signed last offseason. However, after a whole season of seeing Robinson up close and personally, it’s even harder to believe the Chiefs would pay him as if he was the 7th most valuable player on the team in 2013. Dunta looked good in the game against the Colts but not good enough to make up for a bad year on his account.

Odds Robinson will be moved: 60%

 

Justin Houston

Justin Houston is one of the reason’s the Chiefs must make some of these other players expendable. Unless the Chiefs find more space under the cap they’re not going to be able to sign their biggest FA coming up in one year. Houston’s rookie contract runs out in 2014 and he is the future of the Chiefs pass rush, no two ways around it.

Odds Houston will be moved: 0%

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One problem I see moving forward is the pay scale vs. the value system for the Chiefs. The 2014 order of Chiefs who are making the most include, in order of most money (base salary) contracted is, 1) D. Bowe, 2) E. Berry, 3) B. Flowers, 4) A. Smith, 5) S. Smith, 6) Mike DeVito, 7) Dunta Robinson, 8) Derrick Johnson, 9) Anthony Fasano (9th based on his higher cap hit), 10) Dustin Colquitt, 11) Chase Daniel, and then 12) the Mr. Jamaal RaShaad Jones Charles the first who, as you know, should not be last on this list.

JC is not only the clear cut MVP of the Chiefs 2013 season, he’s been mentioned in the conversations with the lofty likes of Peyton Manning for the league MVP. The Chiefs need to make things right by showing JC is indeed the savior of the organization at this point in time and pay him accordingly.

There are many fans who believe that the Chiefs had a decent defensive year overall and that the offense has been on again off again. The numbers reflect a different story and say that if the Chiefs were good early then they were horrible late. Not a good sign going into the playoffs. Here’s a breakdown offered by espn.com summing up each of the Chiefs offensive and defensive ranks this season.
Screen Shot 2013-12-27 at 1.27.56 PMIt’s fairly safe to say that the last game of the season vs. the Chargers is not going to dramatically change any of these stats by season’s end… which obviously comes at the end of the that game. Consequently, the value of Jamaal Charles is made clearer than ever.

As far as I’m concerned, the Chiefs could cut ties with Chase Daniel. I’m not seeing the benefits of his services or abilities. Those so-called abilities just haven’t been evident. Yes, if the Chiefs have Alex Smith go down with an injury they’ll need a QB to step in and take over and do that with the least amount of fall off performance wise. It seems there are a number of other QB options that would have done that job better… and for far less… than Chase Daniel.

While many are calling for Tyler Bray to get the backup position, that would be based solely, at this point, on his game four preseason performance and there are still concerns about his head. Playing Bray some during the last game would be a terrific way to help gauge his readiness but that experience will still offer a limited view as to whether or not he could handle a back-up position. That’s a more realistic take on Bray and fans should not get the left foot ahead of the right foot here.

That being said, I want to see more of Tyler Bray and the signs are positive that he’ll get a shot in this game because Reid has a history of such QB nurturing. Bray’s big arm and ability to not only fit the ball in tight places but make throws that few others could even try… is very exciting and we can only hope it happens tomorrow.

How does that all affect the Chiefs cuts? If Bray does well, it would be great to see the Chiefs move Daniel in a trade, perhaps back to New Orleans, and pick up a veteran back-up QB who can stand behind Bray and teach him.

Admittedly, this may not be financially feasible until next offseason because of Chase Daniel and his contract structure but, it would signal a move in the right direction for the organization not only in terms of the future of the QB position but in making cap moves that could save money. Consequently, I’m not in favor of the Chiefs drafting a QB. It wouldn’t make sense with the current QB roster unless they give up on Tyler Bray all together. However, I think he’s warranted another shot behind center, and this time with the second/first team starters running next to him.

WR A.J. Jenkins’ status needs to be addressed as well. Jenkins, remember, came over in return for Jon Baldwin but, he shouldn’t be considered any differently than if it was Baldwin still here under performing, because that’s exactly what Jenkins has been doing and is still doing too: way under performing for a first round pick. The Chiefs must improve their wide receiver corp this off season and you have to wonder if Jenkins will be in the plans. His 1 million dollar contract in 2014 makes him a long shot when considering all the rocks GM John Dorsey is used to turning over to get what… and who… he wants for a lot less than one mil per.

Tyson Jackson could be a Free Agent in 8 days (technically in March). Jackson could easily sign for more money with another team and cash in, which is my prediction for the 2009 3rd pick DE. Here’s a Rotoworld summary of TJs most recent contract with the Chiefs:

3/5/2013: Signed a one-year, $4.7 million contract. The deal contains $4 million guaranteed. Another $500,000 is available through playing-time incentives. 2013: $4.2 million (+ $500,000 workout bonus), 2014: Free Agent.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Chiefs take a DE with the first pick in the draft. His absence could be horrific if he is replaced by an inferior free agent. However, Tyson Jackson hasn’t lived up to expectations of a first rounder and there will be some who are glad to see him go.

With the values John Dorsey and Andy Reid are able to get in other players I would be at all surprised to see a similar exit to that of Glenn Dorsey’s last off season. The Chiefs signed Mike DeVito one day, signalling the end of the Chiefs interest, and Glenn Dorsey signed with the 49ers the very next.

The 4-7 million dollar savings this would represent is nothing to sneeze at and as I have not traditionally been a tin man advocate (also having to do with my disdain for Scott Pioli because T.J. was his first draft pick and first bad draft pick), I can see him moving on and more new faces filling in and/or moving up: like Allen Bailey or Mike Catapano. I believe both are ready to make a big dent on the field while costing 25% combined of what T.J. would cost to keep.

It’s going to be another, shall we say, intriguing, offseason for our Kansas City Chiefs. And it’s so close, you can almost smell it. And… if you’re wondering what I think it smells like? Smells like Teen Spirit to me, because my guess is, more youth will be served. But, so will better choices as this team comes to increasingly bear the branding symbol of John Dorsey and Andy Reid.

Mmm… sounds yummy! Nothing like grade “A” K.C. chuck.

First order of business? Win a playoff game and make Kansas City a more attractive spot for free agents wanting to visit the playoffs every year and have fun winning along the way.

Go Chiefs!

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  • 2dogs

    Great research Laddie. To win is all about the value and negotiations made at contract time.

    • ladner morse

      Yes and that’s when this winning season really started. Can’t wait to see R&D win this offseason.

  • berttheclock

    Quick overview suggests Laddie has done his homework, yet, again. But, before I get back to mull over the thread, can anyone explain why Derrick Johnson, who has been the glue trying to hold the defense together gets snubbed for the Pro Bowl and Flowers, who is not having the best of seasons, gets invited?

    BTW, with Albert being named to the Pro Bowl, imagine the increased dollar signs in his and his agent’s eyes.

    • 2dogs

      Thought the same thing when I saw Albert make the Pro Bowl. Good for him, bad for us. Good bye Brandon.

    • freshmeat62

      I’m thinking the NFC WR’s stuffed the ballot box. They want Flowers.

      • micah stephenson

        Booooo! That wasn’t even funny!

    • micah stephenson

      They shud kick somebody off the team and add DJ. He one of the top LBs in the whole lg.

      • ladner morse

        Spot on micah! If not for JC… DJ should be our team MVP.

    • ladner morse

      Having posted this article prior to the Pro Bowl announcements confuses things a bit. However, before waxing quixotic we should remember who both R&D are. Dorsey hasn’t traditionally used the FA period to mold his team… last year may have been an anomaly. However, Reid is a different story. Let’s not forget his “Dream Team” offseason. With Reid I getthe idea that if he could take a player he wanted… throw a bit of caution to wind because he’s going there.

  • berttheclock

    Laddie, one point about FAs, possibly, wanting to come to KC. Remember, John Dorsey was schooled in Green Bay, where FAs were a very small part of the equation. This past off season, Dorsey, out of need, brought several to KC, but, will he revert to his Green Bay days and continue to try to build from within?

    • freshmeat62

      I hope Dorsey continues w/ that method. I’m not sold at all on the FA path to building a team. Off the top of my head, the only FA I can think of that was worth it, was Reggie White.

      2 years ago Winston was the Chief’s big signing, and he was a bust. Last year Sean Smith would probably be the biggest signing, but he’s average at best. And Chase Daniel, when he played, looked timid and tentative w/ his throwing. Maybe it was just the rust of not playing, but Bray was a lot more impressive in his short stint in preseason.

      I have no idea if Bray is the answer, long term, but until he gets a couple years sitting on the bench and learning, then see if he has improved. If he shows no improvement, then let him go. But the physical talents he has, wow, I’d give him every chance in the world to succeed.

      • berttheclock

        I agree. BTW, Charles Woodson was their second. He came over from the Raiders, played very well for them and went back to the Raiders.

      • ladner morse

        Gotta ask yourself the question: were any of those moves… Reid… or Dorsey?

  • berttheclock

    Hey, if this comes up as a double post, I’m sorry, but, the first try didn’t stick. About new FAs coming to KC, remember that John Dorsey was trained with the Packers where FAs were few and far between. He brought several to KC, last year, as a matter of instant upgrade, but, will he revert to the Packers method of building from within?

  • Doc

    Albert, Flowers, Robinson will be the best subraction for addition to our team. Albert wants big money and the Chiefs have shown they are not convinced he is worth it. I still say he is shaving back issues that have not healed 100% because he looks slow whe he raises out of his bent over stance. Flowers is on the decline this year and it appears he has lost a step. Robinson? Should have never picked him up – age is against him. These three could make good trade bait but most likely lukewarm interest. Dallas will probably want Flowers. TJ will want to stay and MAY even sign for less money. He has done it once and he may understand he will get the best deal here. Daniel- IMO he should have never have been signed. His height is a hinderance in the NFL. He could make good trade bait, maybe OAK, I doubt NO would want him back. Charles and Houston are priorities and the three listed will probably be the sacrificial lambs to make it happen. Hali could be a value but will he be greedy or realistic in the money he asks for?

    • micah stephenson

      No Flowers or Robinson? So S.Smith is our #1? Um NO!

  • Keith Alberson

    No questions about it, there will be big wholesale changes in Kansas City. At one point i loved Flowers, and also believed he was going to develop into one of the best DB’s in the league, but he went south this season. using Cooper at the DB, and placing Flowers at the Nickel, tell’s you at his salary rate, he won’t be in Kansas City next season. We all have to remember this is a 2-14 team a season ago, and in one season under Coach Reid and GM Dorsey this team is heading for the playoffs. It took the Seahawks several years of shuffling players, and remaking their Line up, to where it is now. We have a head start in Kansas City, but no where near done. Our secondary was exposed second half of this season, and looked worse then a High School team against Denver, in Kansas City of all places, it was embarrassing. Along from Poe, we still have no pass rush from our DT’s, and of course on the other side of the ball, it would be foolish to believe Reid is not going to replace Avery with a deep threat with speed, and hands. Know way they bring back Chase Daniels. with the kid Tyler Bray on the bench, if he keep his nose clean, continues to learn, and progress, he could be the face of the franchise at QB, in 3-4 seasons. So enjoy the playoffs, big changes are yet to come. The Chiefs goal is to win a Super Bowl, and these players make ridiculous amounts of money, don’t expect to see status quo

  • Chris Tarrants

    There are so many holes still left on this team that I don’t know if one more year will be enough to get us over the hump. We currently need help at WR, WR again yep that makes two of them. We need all kinds of help on the secondary. Another safety so we can finally drop Lewis on his head and we will need another quality corner, if Flowers walks then we will need two corners. The only positions we are really set at are linebacker, halfback, fullback, and QB- even with that said we need another qb if Daniel walks

    • micah stephenson

      I think we set a oline too. Even without Albert. They all young and good, the more they play together the better they will get.

      • berttheclock

        I still believe you see something in Stephenson that Pro Football Focus raters do not see. They, consistently, rate him very low. He still needs far more work in developing his upper body strength. In addition, Allen has light years to go before he will even be average. For someone coming out of the Big Ten, one would think he should be better. He keeps getting turned on pass blocking, although, he gets generous tips from defensive linemen for leading them to their table atop Smith.

        • micah stephenson

          You can’t only go by pff’s grades. Your willing to give Alex time but not Stephenson. He just needs playing time. He won’t get better on the bench.

        • micah stephenson

          So do you think they shud sign Albert to a big long term deal, pay another OT a bunch of money, use ANOTHER 1ST RD pick on a OT AGIAN, or play Stephenson?

    • micah stephenson

      When you say 2 wrs, do you not like Bowe or do you want 2 more wrs besides Bowe?

      • Chris Tarrants

        I like Bowe, but I don’t like what Dex has done at WR, Hemmingway could be our number two but I think we need two new members of our WR corps and I love the idea of Reid bringing Maclin over and draft a young stud and hopefully we would be set

        • micah stephenson

          Whoa! If we got Maclin and 1st rd wr we shud b set at wr. None of them will have a lot of yards with our QB tho.

          • berttheclock

            I don’t know whether Reid really wants Maclin. Reid wants YAC wide outs for his West Coast. Maclin’s best YAC year was in 2009 with Vick and that was only around the plus or minus 5 yards category. In 2012, his YAC dropped him far down the list as he only averaged 4 yards.

          • Chris Tarrants

            Smith will only get better given more time in the same system. Just think about what his numbers would look like right now if there were no drops this year? I would rather have a Brady, Manning, or Rodgers but Smith is our guy and he needs weapons around him that will bring in easy catches and also use athleticism to bring in the harder catches. Maclin, may not be on Reid’s wish list but a couple of real Wr’s are on mine

          • micah stephenson

            With Alex Smith at QB, I think we need 3 of the best wrs at taking a 3 yrd pass and turning it into a big play.

          • clay simester

            Yeah we should probably go after some big name, gunslinger qb’s with cannons for arms like Stafford, Cutler, or Romo. Except for the fact that they all demand huge undeserved contracts, constantly throw pick sixes, and consistently lose year in and year out despite all having pro-bowl wr’s. But hey, they can really wing it though. This isn’t Tecmo bowl. Oh yeah, great call on wanting Geno so badly, he’s terrible and would have set our franchise back several years

          • micah stephenson

            Geno is not terrible. He is all the jets have for now. No run game. No wr weapons. I think they best wr is named Curley or something. We knew there wasn’t a P.Manning in this draft and these guys would take longer to develop. Geno has some good games and some bad ones. He is a rookie. P.Manning was 3-13 his rookie season.

          • micah stephenson

            I would LOVE some Matt Stafford!!!! Is he a free agent? He still young and passes for 5000 yards a season! We cud go toe for toe blow for blow with Manning and Rivers if we had him. If he is a free agent they need to do everything possible to get him! I don’t think the lions wud ever let him go.

          • clay simester

            Stafford is only 4 years younger than Alex Smith. He’s only thrown for 5000 yards once in his career despite throwing to possibly the best wr to ever live, and has had a total of 1 winning season in his 5 year career. He just signed a 76 million dollar contract that pays him 18 million a year even though his career record is 24-37 and has never won their division. But hey, he threw for a bunch of yards one year so he must be the missing piece of the puzzle right? You should probably just stick to playing madden franchise-mode or draft him on your fantasy football team until you get a clue what team sports are all about

          • micah stephenson

            4 yrs is a lot in football. And didn’t the lions go 0-16 to get him. They got 99 problems but QB ain’t one.

          • micah stephenson

            On madden online franchise mode I create the most pretiest Chiefs teams ever! My teams are always top 2 in every lg. If I cud build the real chiefs up, I’d have them looking like a madden team.

          • micah stephenson

            Stafford is Better than Alex! If you say he is not then you get a clue!

          • clay simester

            Stafford is more talented, but Alex is playing better football right now for half of the money. Stafford this year 28 td’s 19 ints 18 million, Smith 23 td’s 7 ints 9 million. Lions have 7 wins and are out of the playoffs, Chiefs have 11 wins and are in the playoffs. Imagine if Smith were throwing to megatron

          • micah stephenson

            Ok. I’m imagining. I see him catching mayby 5 passes, most them only 4 yards down the field.

          • Danny W

            To blame losing on Stafford is just plain crazy Sir.

          • clay simester

            Ya mean like this past week when leading the giants 20-13 with 5 minutes left he throws a pick six and then lost in ot and missed the playoffs?

          • micah stephenson

            We all know Stafford is better. This more about proving me wrong than. I got a lot of Lovers/Haters on here.

          • micah stephenson

            Missing pc of the puzzle. Knaw, his pc of the puzzle is in place, there are pieces around him missing.

          • micah stephenson

            Cutler and Romo have strong arms but they getting older. We need a young gun at QB.

          • micah stephenson

            This ain’t Tecmo bowl but it ain’t the 90′s anymore ether. This a passing lg now. To beat the Broncos and SD we gone need to score 30-40 plus pts a game. So Alex is gone haft to turn into a whole different type of QB.

          • micah stephenson

            Geno is history. What about this yrs QBs? You gone clown them too? What about the yr after that? They suck too? Cus ima keep wanting a QB every yr untill they get one.

          • micah stephenson

            somebody didn’t like my comment but it’s true.

          • micah stephenson

            No drops? I don’t thinks that’s ever been done in the history of the nfl. Even tho that’s what we need is 0 drops 100% of the time becuase our QB can’t over come a few drops like others can.

          • Chris Tarrants

            You knew what I meant lol and dude you are bound to end up getting a restraining order from Smiths and his attorney. You are like the negatively obsessed ex girlfriend when it comes to smith! I was on the Geno bandwagon with you all winter last year but come on man

          • micah stephenson

            I’m been past Geno I’m on to next yrs QBs.

          • Chris Tarrants

            Bray has the potential to lead this team he cool deffinantly use a few years of sitting behind Smith to learn how to be a pro and work on his game. Watching him in the preseason all I could think about was Favre! He looks like a rocket armed gunslinger who could be our franchise guy so let him develope and see what happens

    • micah stephenson

      I want to see what the rookie S.Commings can do at FS.

      • Chris Tarrants

        I want to see what he has also but what happens if he goes down again or if Berry goes down? We need a good quality plan b

        • micah stephenson

          Demps and Abdullah.

  • Shaun Smith

    You do realize Brandon Flowers made the Pro bowl right??? Which brings me to my second thought.HOW DID BRANDON FLOWERS MAKE THE PRO BOWL??!?!?!?! Lol

    • micah stephenson

      Stop on Flowers. That’s not even funny. Flowers is good that’s why he is in the probowl agian.

  • micah stephenson

    I like Abert but his 10 mill in salery is as good as cash so he is gone no matter what becuase I need that ten mill to go shopping! Didn’t know Tamba’s contract go down by 10 mill, that helps. That 5 mill for Jackson um yea cash that in. Start Baily with a late rd draft pick backing him up. Chase can go, 3 mill cha ching. Robinson can go, 3 more mill, cha ching. we gon have some money come free agency.

  • micah stephenson

    Athony Fasano is the 9th highest paid player on our team? Cut him!!!

    • ladner morse

      I know… I know… several of the players and their rank on the team is a bit shocking….

  • Lyle Graversen

    I think you might see Flowers and/or Hali restructure to free up some cap space. I think Albert and Robinson are for sure gone and likely Daniel. I think Houston and Jackson will be resigned.

    Great write up Laddie!

    • tm1946

      Don’t you believe if we lose the rest of the games or win it all, Robinson is gone, I do. If Copper had not started to lose his mind, Robinson would have been on the sidelines all season long.
      This will probably be Hali’s last contract, I say pay him if physical says he is fine.

  • FaAmos

    Keep Tyson Jackson, we finally by drafting a real NT in Poe and signing Devito all of a sudden Tyson Jackson doesn’t look like the bust he was unfairly labeled. You put Suh on the defensive line by himself with two highschool players and see how well Sub does. Jackson was a bust because first Pioli was running a 3-4 without a NT which should have been his first move but instead playing a 3-4 DE in Jackson with 4-3 DL who couldn’t fit Into the system. Now Iackson has Poe and Devitio I say keep him. We need a Jon Bostic type ILB alongside DJ and we’d have the best front seven in the league. I say resign TY and draft an ILB in the first round then a Safety in the third to replace Lewis and we’ve had great luck with CB’s in the fifth round so draft the best available CB in the fifth

    • tm1946

      Might consider reviewing game tapes. After 9 wins, the defense is sucking in the area of pass rush. But add a stud on the DE and Poe, Hali, and Houston get better, get sacks, help DBs. Keep JAckson and DeVito and you got what we saw after from Denver on.

      • sidibeke

        I agree with you here, TM. I’ve wondered if the better investment would be on the back end or the front 3. I’m going back end in first round, but I wouldn’t be upset if we used our 1st and 3rd pick on a DE and a DB in any particular order. Funny, a month ago I was convinced we had to go WR with our #1. I’ve change my mind.

    • ladner morse

      Because we know there will be an evaluation… that is for sure… it’s hard to see Tyson Jackson returning. Not that he’s bad… I haven’t said that. However, for the third pick in the draft… he’s a disappointment. A big one. If he was even close to Pro Bowl caliber at any point in his 5 years with the club things would be different. When you look at the amount of cap the Chiefs are using on the defensive side of the ball… much more than the offensive side… it tells me they are dedicated to maintaining a championship level defense. Which is not what we’ve got right now. Close… but no Tipparillo.

  • tm1946

    IF I could be bold. With Albert and Flowers pro bowl selections, I would have to say unless they WANTED to stay with the Chiefs and would sign a supportive contract, both are gone…..90%

    There is salary cap and that effect things as much as needs and talent. Now if Bray was the starting QB, cut other QBs, might have some money for high dollar players. Doubt it will happen but a definite what if.

    Also what is out there in free agency and, while not the first pick, is there a position or two that is fat coming out of college, where the CHiefs can find starters in late rounds. Dorsey will be looking at this. Do we even agree in what is the “real” need – micah, a QB, me a DE, anyone a WR or TE or T or DB. Many needs but a definite ceiling on money available.

  • micah stephenson

    Yall f**ks me up with that T.Bray stuff!! Geno and EJ ain’t good enough but T.Bray is! Wow. such low standards at QB around here. Raiders gon draft a QB with they top ten pick and we will b so far behind in the afc west at QB. O well.

    • KCMikeG

      I’m worried (NOT) because the faiders have such a great history of drafting QB’s! I’m with you on Bray though. People talking like he is just going to step in and be the guy. He has lots of issues and couldn’t beat out the very timid and average Daniels this year. I have been on the Boyd bandwagon since last year and would love to see us get him. Otherwise Mannion or Fales in the later rounds have good potential. I know we will never agree, because you refuse to see the truth, but AS11 will be our QB next year for sure. He is ranked #15 in yards, has the same completion as Brady at 60.6%, he has 23 TD’s – more than Luck, Foles, Newton, Flacco, Eli & Kaepernick – just one less than Ryan & Brady and 2 less than Wilson and Foles. I know you will never get on his bandwagon but I hope this helps with your perspective.

  • micah stephenson

    To those clowning B.Flowers, who else is better than him in the probowl? Brent Grimes, Joe Haden, Allteruan Venner, of Aqib Talib?

    • KCMikeG

      Yes. Flowers doesn’t even lead our own team DB’s in any statistical category.

    • clay simester

      I’d take any of those players over Flowers

      • micah stephenson

        I would not take any of them over Flowers. I’d take J.Haden to pair up with Flowers.

    • ladner morse

      It’s a good point… but the point really is…. the level of play at CB league wide… is down. Just as the league has made rules to benefit the QB… the WR has been the benefactor which makes CBs look much wore. So, while the play of CBs across the league is down, let’s not forget why because the athletes playing that position now… like every other position in the league… are much better than they were just 10 years ago.

    • Jim bernard

      I agree, flowers is getting a bum wrap here, he was only put in the slot to get ready for Denver and welker. And his knee has been banged up also, I think he can bounce back next year. I noticed he was back outside against the colts and I thought he played well. Shoulda had a pick as well.

  • KCMikeG

    I agree with your moves and would rate Robinson’s exit much higher than 60%. If Flowers is let go give me E.J. Gaines from Mizzu at CB with our #3. I like Baylor’s Ahmad Jensen at safety with our 4th pick. He is a big hitter that would replace Lewis and give Cooper the over the top help he needs.

    I know some want Macklin but No thanks for me. He is coming off a whole season on IR and has a history of knee injuries. IMO we should take WR Sammy Watkins from Clemson with our #1 pick. Hemingway (major untapped potential) and Bowe (needs to step up his play and start earning those big checks) with Dexter (over 1,100 total yards) and another youngster would have us set with Joe Don Duncan at TE with our 5th round pick and please bring Tony G back. Please…

  • Danny W

    Good read. Didn’t really sound yummy, but I enjoyed the perspective.

  • sidibeke

    Definitely agree with dumping Dunta’s and Daniel’s contracts. I also think Bray isn’t ready to be the back up but a serviceable backup without the initials MC could do.

    I also think Albert is gone. When he was out of the lineup, it didn’t seem like the o line missed too much. I’m not sure Fisher is the answer over there, but our o line does seem to be deep and Albert’s price tag is too high.

    Intrigued by the notion of letting Flowers go. Whether we keep him or not, I think we need to go DB 1st round, preferably a CB. It seems like our 3rd CB has been the achilles heel of this D. Maybe Commings is that guy, but until he shows something on the field regular season, I think we need D back help.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    Flowers cut? I can’t see that happening. He could be traded, but there’s no way they take a nearly $11 million cap hit.