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Kansas City Chiefs' Preseason 2014 Draft Needs


 

This season can aptly be termed the season of new beginnings, for both the Kansas City Chiefs and Arrowhead Addict. Clark Hunt cleaned house and brought in Andy Reid and John Dorsey. Sorry Scott Pioli, as you know, it’s a process and you were deemed not a part of the right 53. Here at Arrowhead Addict, Patrick Allen got promoted and we have a brand new lead editor, Andrew Kulha. Still, here I still am, just as grumpy as always, but focused on the long term.

It’s not just me. Over at Drafttek, we have been pumping out 2014 mock drafts since June. Yes, the draft lamp is always lit for Merlin’s Magic and Drafttek. There should be a new mock draft out in early September. Right now, it is only one round, but that will expand. Keeping draft needs in mind is a good way to analyze the current team. So, how are the Chiefs stacking up and where are the needs? Every time the Chiefs change regimes, I have to alter my approach to the draft needs. How does John Dorsey draft? What is he looking for? Frankly, John Dorsey is a major pain in my ass. He wants to be two deep at every position and draft purely for value. It’s a great goal, but make predicting his moves very difficult. So, to reflect his approach, you will see me group more and more needs together. That will open the door to a more best player available approach. However, there are still needs that are more important than others. This is a window into my current thinking. Keep in mind, with a whole season to play, lots will change as players emerge or don’t emerge.

Primary needs: WR, LOT, CB

I had WR as a primary need even before the Baldwin trade. That trade only makes this need a stronger one. You can easily argue that a WR to complement Dwayne Bowe is the biggest need on the team. Some one really has to step up to move this need down on the list.

The LOT need is where I can see fans seeing red. Why another left tackle? I hate to predict players leaving, but we have to be honest about the facts. Scott Pioli tried to sign Branden Albert to a long term contract. John Dorsey tried as well. Both men failed. Obviously, Albert feels his value is higher than two Chiefs General Mangers have felt. Baring something major happening, Albert will not be a Chief in 2014. So, why a left tackle when the Chiefs drafted Eric Fisher last year? The LOT need is more of a skill set need than a positional need. This gets back to why Pioli and Dorsey don’t agree with Albert on his value. The old ROT skill set (bigger, less athletic, stronger than the LOT) is going away. The ROT/LOT distinction is becoming irrelevant. The skill set needed for both tackles is the left tackle skill set. The effect of this is to devalue the LOT and raise the value of the ROT. The Chiefs could easily draft another Offensive Tackle and move Fisher to the LOT spot. It is boring, I grant you. However, games are won in the trenches.

With Flowers and Smith, why another CB? This one is easier to answer. As the NFL goes more pass happy, you need three good corners. I view Dunta Robinson as a short term rental. We need a young corner to develop.

Secondary needs: OG/C, DE, S

These are backup oriented needs. Anyone get deja vu watching Chase Daniel, Tyler Bray and Ricky Stanzi run for their lives when the Chiefs’ backup offensive lineman were in the game? It was embarrassing and needs to change. Granted, some of those players will not be Chiefs when the season starts. However, there was a reason the Chiefs reached out to Ryan Lilja to get him to play again.

I don’t see a lot behind Jackson and DeVito. So, another DE is very possible. One thing I am keeping an eye on is Bob Sutton’s use of Dontari Poe. I can see Sutton using Poe like Ngata is used in Baltimore. That is, more of a DT than a NT. Remember, Kelly Gregg was the NT in that defense. If Poe is used that way, that opens the door for Powe/Toribio and possibly drafting another NT.

Safety depth appears to be in better shape, but it never hurts to bring in someone to compete. I want Kendrick Lewis pushed. Let the best man win.

Tertiary needs: QB, RB, NT, OLB, ILB

This pretty much hits the rest of the positions, outside of a FB and TE. As you get to the later rounds of the draft you are looking for someone who can come in and compete somewhere/anywhere.

Ok Addicts, that’s my take before the regular season. What do you all think?

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  • BurtGummer44

    Quarterback is STILL our biggest need; AS is a good transitional QB until we can take a shot at drafting and developing a Franchise QB. It’s what Championship teams do you know.

    • Jason Seibel

      You mean like the Saints and the 49ers?

      • BurtGummer44

        49ers drafted/developed Kaep, Saints capitalized on the Chargers idiocy so yes the Saints are an exception to the rule.

        • berttheclock

          One huge difference between Kaep being developed and Alex Smith being developed. When, AS broke in, the Niners were one of the worst teams in the NFL. By the time, CK was drafted, Trent Baalke had completely rebuilt both the team and their coaching staff. Had CK been drafted in 2005, he would have been running for his life.

          • berttheclock

            The Niners were so bad in 2005 that their starting QB was Tim Rattay, a 7th round pick from the 2000 draft. You know the one where Tom Brady went in the 6th round. When, Alex Smith replaced Rattay during the season, he had to run for daylight whenever he dropped back to pass.

          • BurtGummer44

            So what, they have their Franchise QB now. I expect Kaep to regress a little do to his inexperience but subsequently improve. Just take a look at Eli Mannings career; but the dude is money in big time games. And BTW, AS still has happy feet.

          • berttheclock

            Eli Manning? You mean that QB who was drafted by the Chargers?

          • BurtGummer44

            It was basically the same as trading draft picks. So give me a break. Eli has only played for 1 team in the NFL.

    • berttheclock

      You mean the way New Orleans “drafted” Brees or Green Bay “drafted” Favre or are you referring to that great “draft” by the Niners when they “selected” Steve Young? Seattle did go to the Super Bowl with their “own draft pick”, ah shucks, memory escapes me, but, you know the one Holmgren brought from Green Bay to lead the Seahawks to the SB.

      • berttheclock

        Ah, that great day when the Dallas Texans “drafted” Len Dawson.

        • berttheclock

          Geez, when Pete Rozelle stepped up to the microphone and announced the Raiders “drafting” Jim Plunkett. Still gives me chills

        • 44WinMag

          Dawson was drafted by Pittsburgh and later traded to Cleveland who released him after a couple of years. He would have been out of football if it weren’t for the new AFL.

      • BurtGummer44

        Let me do a list: Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning,Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, John Elway, Bob Greise, Ben Rothlisberger, Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Johnny Unitas, Joe Theisman, Phil Simms, Jim McMahon, Troy Aikman and Joe Flacco. I’m sure I missed a few. I do concede there are a few exceptions. But Favre was traded young and developed not traded after 8 years in the league. Hasselbeck and Dilfer are journeymen who ended up on SB teams despite their average play. So yes, I stand by the fact that Championship teams draft and develop starting Franchise QBs. Especially teams that make more than ONE Championship game appearance.

        • Jason Seibel

          And I’m sure you could forsee Geno Smith leading the Chiefs to the promised land this year?

          • BurtGummer44

            No I’m not a big Geno fan……and besides it’s water under the bridge. What I’m pointing out is that if the 2nd worst playoff team since the merger is going to get out of a 40plus year funk we need to at least try and do what Championship teams have done. Ownership has stated they want to emulate the Steelers; yet they continue down the same path year in and year out. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

        • berttheclock

          Burt, it is a great concept when it works, but, it is not set into stone that it is the only way to develop a franchise QB. I mentioned Steve Young. He was drafted by Tampa Bay and was almost destroyed trying to develop behind a terrible offensive line. Fortunately, the Niners brought him in to be an understudy to Montana. In the past, the Chiefs have tried to develop top picks, such as Pete Beatherd and Mike Livingston. They even tried to develop Steve Fuller. Beatherd was traded to Houston, Livingston made a decent run at QB and Steve Fuller was a true bust(although he did get a SB ring for backing up McMahon) The Chiefs even took the fellow who broke Elway’s college records at Stanford and he did not make the grade. So, the Chiefs have tried and I am sure that down the road another young QB will be brought in to attempt to become the franchise guy. However, if you look around the league, you will also find many top draft selections by teams who ended up out of football within a very short time. Not as easy as one might think, no matter how high a QB was drafted. I saw Rick Mirer ruined in Seattle by being forced to play with the 1st unit far too early and RM was a very high draft pick. I, also, saw Kelly Stouffer ruined by the Seahawks as well and he is presently doing color for the University of Illinois football games.

          • BurtGummer44

            Steve Young started in the USFL. Take a look at the teams that have WON Multiple Superbowls. You have to try, the Chiefs don’t even try; I guess because all of these “Veteran” QBs have won so many playoff games for us. I mean come on 3 playoff wins since the merger! And only once have the Chiefs tried to draft/develop a QB and failed. Talk about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We’re on our 4th 49ers QB in 20 years!

          • berttheclock

            No, he did not star. Don Klosterman drafted him for the LA Express and he became known as the $40 million QB. He never received that money as the league folded. He, then, went to Tampa Bay in a supplemental draft for players who ended up without teams from the USFL.
            BTW, did you even read my post? I said the Chiefs have tried to develop QBs at least 4 different times. Beatherd, Livingston, Fuller and Stenstrom. In the early ’70s, they even drafted a record setting QB from KU who ended up showing up for training camp with a tennis elbow. Later, he couldn’t even make it with San Antonio of the World Football League.

          • BurtGummer44

            Those are not serious attempts…………Get Real. LOL!

          • berttheclock

            Really? Did you know there was a large portion of the Chiefs’ fans and some players of the Chiefs who wanted Beatherd to start over Len Dawson? Did you know Livingston helped salvage the SB run of the Chiefs when Dawson was injured? Did you know the Chiefs traded up to obtain Steve Fuller, as a scout who had gone to watch a South Carolina-Clemson game and really check out the great TE who made the famous SB catch for the Niners, came back raving about the talent of Fuller. So, the Chiefs traded up, took him and tried very hard to make him into their staring QB. BTW, laugh out loud is really for children to use.

          • BurtGummer44

            The Chiefs invested very little in all those. The closest the Chiefs have come to trying to develop a Franchise QB since Blackledge was Croyle.

        • Chris Foosman

          John Unitas was drafted by the Steelers. Kurt Warner took two different teams to the big dance. Brad Johnson is another QB who won one in recent history. The Raiders won almost all theirs with traded QBs I think. I think people get too wrapped around the axel believing things have to be done a certain way. The best way to do things is generally the opposite way everyone else is trying to do it. Why? Because you’ll have less competition for your kind of player. If everyone is looking to draft their franchise QB (which they are) it makes sense you can trade for a pretty good undervalued vet. Look at how the Steelers and Pats dominated the AFC at the beginning of the 2000′s. A big reason for that was the explosion of the Tampa 2. As everyone went to the 4-3, they snapped up all the tweeners that were left in the cold to play the 3-4. If I were a GM in this league I would try to do the exact opposite of consensus. You look at these QBs being selected now, and teams are reaching. AA had dopes writing articles about how we should use the #1 pick on Geno Smith. He looked awful yesterday and the Jets’ o-coordinator basically said he was hot garbage a few days before. Have a plan, follow the plan and be opportunistic.

          • BurtGummer44

            Yeah, the CHiefs plan is NEVER try and develop a QB……….which I’ll repeat again has led to a grand total of 3 playoff wins since the merger. Only the Lions are worse over that period. And I think Ken Stabler was drafted by the Raiders.

          • Chris Foosman

            You prove yourself wrong in your reply. The Lions have done nothing but develop QBs. Stafford looks better than Harrington, Ware, Kramer, Batch, etc., but it’s all about following the plan and being opportunistic with trends. I like A Smith better than anyone in the last draft. I don’t really see an improvement in next year’s either, and I’m a guy who remains angry no one listened to me when we traded for Trent Green when we could have drafted that kid out of Purdue, Drew Brees, with the same pick that became Adam Archuleta.

          • BurtGummer44

            NO, the Lions are more likely to win a playoff game before the Chiefs. At least they try. Sometimes you’re gonna miss, so you try again until you find that Aikman, Bradshaw, or Elway. There’s a reason certain teams have multiple SB appearances and World Championships.

          • Chris Foosman

            You’re just trolling now. You pointed out the Lions have been more pathetic than the Chiefs by following your advice. And there is a reason teams have multiple Super Bowl appearances: they follow my advice.

          • BurtGummer44

            You’re a confused individual. These QBs all one multiple SBs and all were developed by their franchises: Starr, Staubach, Montana, Manning, Rothlesberger, Elway, Aikman, Brady, Bradshaw and Greise. They account for 26 of the 47 Superbowl winners. See a Pattern????

          • Chris Foosman

            Most Superbowls were played before free agency, which has had the effect of making teams more willing to trade to fill holes. I think you’re confused, because when you look at the list two of the most prolific QBs were late round picks. The Chiefs have been doing that. Your line of thinking is what Detroit has embraced, and it’s totally made them the only team worse than the Chiefs in the playoffs!

          • BurtGummer44

            Yeah, okay by your line of thinking the Chiefs should not develop a QB because the only team worse than the Chiefs in the Moderna Era is the Lions, and the Lions have tried and failed. Great Logic! Lets just keep doing the same thing and expect new results. I swear Chief fans suffer from some kind of Stockholm syndrome. What happens when the Lions when 1 playoff game and tie us for 3 playoff wins? Or they win 2……..then you’ll want to develop a QB?

          • Chris Foosman

            Yeah, you obviously haven’t read what I’ve written. The point I was making is not reaching to get a QB to develop. The 49ers took Montana in the third round. He won 4 Super Bowls for them. They traded second and fourth round picks for Steve Young when he became available because he was a good prospect. There are organizations constantly reaching because “YOU MUST DEVELOP A QUARTERBACK” when if you really look at organizations that end up developing QBs, they’re not tying their boat to anyone in particular. Cassel was a great proof on that. He was upper middling when he showed up, and he wasn’t a bad trade for the price. The problem they had was in making the decision that he was their guy when he wasn’t. Tom Brady was the exact opposite. Low round pick who stepped in and played better than the big money guy. When the big money guy came back they went with Tom Brady. They’ve continued to stockpile good arms in case Brady goes down or his performance starts slacking. I’m not advocating the opposite of what you say, I’m just advocating that you’re a dope.

          • BurtGummer44

            Only a dope would advocate NEVER even trying to develop a QB and always taking someone elses retread and then THINK they’ll win something win they haven’t won a playoff game in 20 years and 2 of the 3 playoff victories since the merger were when Montana QBed them. Only a dumb ass shill would even think “Cassel” was an attempt to develop a QB…….he’s another example of a Retread.

          • Chris Foosman

            Now you’re just trolling. I haven’t seen anyone on this board advocating that. Have a good one dope! With a complete inability to reason or read I’m sure you’ll be writing for AA any day now!

  • berttheclock

    Burt, Eli Manning was drafted by the Bolts, but, did not want to play for them. So, the two teams switched QBs. Rivers ended up with the Bolts and Manning with the Giants. Have you noticed how many SBs River has led the mighty Chargers to on their way to history?

    • BurtGummer44

      The point being the Giants went out developed him as a rookie and survived all the growing pains. So put an asterik by his name, I don’t remember what they gave up to get him; but who came out ahead in that deal.

    • ArrowFan

      Eli Manning is the luckies QB in the history of the NFL.

      • 44WinMag

        Luck is where preparation, talent, and opportunity all intersect. Eli>Peyton

  • KCtitleist11

    I’m going WR and DE as my two primary needs… in that order

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I can see DE if TJax leaves. Are you counting on that?

  • berttheclock

    I was just reading the Mock Drafts by Rob Rang and Dave Brugler. Their 1st 7 are identical. The QB Bridgewater and Cloney, the DT or DE leading the way. However, as I do not expect the Chiefs to be drafting anywhere near that low level, I concentrated on the middle runs. From their respective lists, there are LBs, CBs and some offensive tackles available in that run. I believe the excellent LT from Texas A&M, Matthews, will be long gone before the Chiefs draft. Of course, I would love to see the Chiefs having to draft at Number 32, but……………

  • Chris Foosman

    Depth. Depth is our biggest concern. The best players on the team are no longer young guys. We need to be completely opportunistic and pick the best players available at all rounds. The only thing I might reach for is a true outside linebacker like Justin Houston to get rid of Hali. He’s the best defensive end playing linebacker in the league, but when you look at the really great 3-4 teams you see linebackers playing linebacker.

  • Calchiefsfan

    Still too early to tell, things need to play out. Like how will the o line come together? Will McCluster, Avery or even Rico surprise us? If I had to draft based on what we know today I would go OG. The interior of the line is weak and has been for a while. The bigger d lines manhandle the Chiefs and cause their QBs to have to run for their lives. If we lose Albert, which most of us believe will happen, we move Fisher to LT and put Stephenson in at RT and draft another tackle project in the 3rd. Cornerback is the other big need. We need a 3rd big time corner on defense to lock down the Mannings, Bradys, Rogers etc in this league.

    There are still holes to fill and the Chiefs need a lot more depth. OG and CB are my picks, right now, as the biggest needs for the Chiefs.

    • micah stephenson

      When do you think we shud get a QB? Alex sucks and is getting old already.

      • Calchiefsfan

        You’re such a troll Micah. To answer your question, when one that Dorsey feels is a franchise QB is available. I had zero confidence in Carl Peterson or Scott Pioli to evaluate the QB position. Any pick they made on a QB in the draft would be a wasted pick, imo. Dorsey on the other hand might have the ability to do what Peterson and Pioli couldn’t. Dorsey was part of the Packer management that brought in Favre and drafted Rogers. Hopefully he can do the same for the Chiefs. If it’s next draft then great.

        I totally disagree with you on A. Smith. He’s every bit as good as Trent Green, maybe better. The Chiefs with Green had the top 1 or 2 offense in the league for 4 years straight. If the Chiefs defense had been even half way decent when Green was playing the Chiefs would have gone to the Super Bowl, possibly several times.

        • BurtGummer44

          I don’t know about a SB, but they could have at least won a playoff game or 2.

          • Calchiefsfan

            Well it’s all pure speculation I know but the Chiefs had the number 1 offense. You gotta think it was very possible if they hadn’t had the number 32 defense.

  • tm1946

    A greatly talented WR to side Bowe would be welcome], DE also. Still looking for that QB that is elite of the elite. After that toss in RBs, OL, DBs and LBs. Always needs and some where on the roster may be that guy, to step up to the next level and totally hidden, just biding his time.

  • 44WinMag

    Alice Smiff’s replacement at QB still is and should be the #1 priority for this team. I’m gonna try and watch the kid from Louisville everyone is raving about, not sure who else is out there in CFB this year.

    • ArrowFan

      I hurd this Tenn. QB Tyler Bray my be good.

      • 44WinMag

        I’ve also heard he’s a head case. Maybe we’ll get a chance to find out how good an NFL QB he is; but somehow I doubt he’ll get a real shot in KC anyhow.

  • Danny W

    I’m never opposed to trying to get better at the most important position on the field. Quarterback. Would I be upset if we gave up a bunch of picks and tried to get Clowney? No. That said if we draft in the middle of the pack we have to go and get the best OT or OG in the game. The middle of our line is horrible right now.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I am going to keep a very close eye on the interior of the offensive line. I like Asamoah, but the rest is unproven and they haven’t shown enough yet. Time will tell, but an OG in round one may be on the radar.

      • Danny W

        Agreed.

    • micah stephenson

      A bunch of picks on a rookie QB!!!!! Bah haaa
      haaa haaa! Lol. Lol. Yea right.

  • micah stephenson

    Whaaaat!!!! Chiefs need a QB 1st. A.Smith sucks.

    • 44WinMag

      Come on don’t you read the posts on this site? Alice Smiff is the world’s Greatest QB who had the best ever QB rating last year but big bad Coach Harbaugh didn’t know what he was doing and gave the job to a no-account kid. He’s gonna lead us to the Superbowl! And if he doesn’t it’s because the players around him just weren’t up to his level. All Hail Alice Smiff!