Chiefs, Dolphins Have Had ‘Extensive Talks’ About Branden Albert

It appears as though Kansas City Chiefs LT Branden Albert may well end up playing football for the Miami Dolphins in 2013.

Rumors are swirling that the Chiefs and Dolphins are in talks about a potential trade that would send Albert to Miami for a second-round draft pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

This, from Omar Kelly of the Sun Sentinel:

However, it appears General Manager Jeff Ireland might not wait until Thursday to improve that unit.

According to league sources, the Dolphins have had extensive talks with Kansas City about acquiring Branden Albert for a second-round pick, and team sources acknowledge a trade could be finalized before next Thursday’s NFL draft.

The Dolphins and Chiefs, two franchises that have a good relationship because of Andy Reid’s long standing friendship with former team czar Bill Parcells, who is Ireland’s mentor, have been discussing this possible trade since last month’s NFL owners meeting.

This comes right around the same time that Ian Rapoport of NFL.com reported that the Dolphins were indeed interested in acquiring Albert.

A number of Chiefs fans that I have talked to really want the team to re-sign Albert long-term but the closer we get to the draft, it is looking more and more like Albert’s time in KC is through.

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  • clay simester

    I might be able to convince myself to trade him for Miami’s 43rd pick but at 54 i’d feel we got ripped off. I’m not even positive i would do it for their 43rd

    • TAZMOSIS

      Why do we assume that it is the later pick? In any case, Albert needs to go. Not because he can’t play, but because he is not a team-first guy. If he went to R&D and let them know that he would move to the right side, this whole argument wouldn’t be happening.

      • micah stephenson

        Why wud he move to RT? Then the KC CHEAPS will want to pay him RT money. If yo job told you “if you work really really hard we gon to give you a promotion and a big raise” so you work really hard but wen it comes time for the raise yo job says “ha ha sucka, not only are we not gone pay you, but we are trading you for less than your worth becuse we want someone younger and cheaper”

      • clay simester

        I had just read that a couple different places is all, no other reason. I just hope we stand our ground and not settle for the later pick. I kind of think the original plan involved keeping Albert and still taking a LT, but as soon as he made it clear that he wasnt moving to the right side, he became trade-bait. Bad way to start off with a new regime anyways, this could have gotten ugly eventually

    • Justin R Groth

      Who do you think they should get with a second round pick and do you think his influence on our team would be greater that Albert if not then we should gave paid the man

      • clay simester

        It’s really hard to say who they should go after in the 2nd round. Depends on who’s still available at what positions. It’s such a deep class that there should be tons of talent left in the 2nd round,especially early in the 2nd. And as far as impact/influence on the team, it’s hard for a rookie to make more of an impact than a starting LT right away. Maybe the biggest impact should be gauged by the 2nd round picks performance combined with whatever we do with the 9-10 million in cap-space we’ll free up. So if you figure we sign a couple players with that new cap-space and add in this 2nd round pick, they just might be more of an immediate impact than Albert would have been had he stayed. Maybe at 43 we’d have a look at drafting someone like Robert Woods from USC or possibly one of the top ILB prospects like an Alec Ogletree

    • redchiefs

      Miami will give up multiple picks if they’re insisting on the 54th.

      • clay simester

        I agree. I’d just much rather have that 43rd pick than the 54th and some late round pick next year. I think at 43 you can easily find a stud with 1st round talent given the depth of this years draft class. Theres only so many picks in the 1st round so somebody has to still be around in the early 2nd!

  • Travis Forsyth

    cool, trade Albert for a Miami 2nd round pick, sign Tyson Clabo to play RT, and draft Joeckel to play LT.

    • Danny W

      Would rather have Andre Smith because he’s younger and has a little more upside.

      • KCMikeG

        Agreed and Fisher over Joeckel.

        • dominicscarlatti

          I would be happy with any two of the four OT’s mooted above.

      • chiefdeorty

        Yea but he want almost LT money. He is good but you can’t pay that kind of money for Smith.

    • http://twitter.com/EdMaldo1 Don Quijote

      I agree. BA is not worth what he is asking. Get Joeckel for 5 years half the price and sign Clabo

      • micah stephenson

        And when its time to resign Jokel wat do the Chiefs do? Trade him for a 2nd rd pick and draft another LT?

    • William Campbell

      I love this right here then use that second to put a good ilb next to Thomas really tie this defense together. Maybe give Alex another toy to play with. Maybe Reid has his eye on a developmental qb with that pick

    • Stacy D. Smith

      If they trade Albert and sign Clabo… Schwartz can play left guard.

      Joeckel – Schwartz – Hudson – Asamoah – Clabo? I’ll take that.

  • KCinTX

    We have another GM & HC that states “we need to build through the draft”. Yet once again we have a player we drafted at the top of his game on the trading block. Over the past 10 years i have watched the Chiefs repeatedly drop the bird they had in their hand and dive into the bush. Very disheartening.

    • http://twitter.com/EdMaldo1 Don Quijote

      KC let’s give these guys a chance. I am tired of watching games in Dec and knowing we are done. Let them find the right players and change the attitude in the locker room.

      • Justin R Groth

        I am too but getting rid of good players every year isn’t a great way to change that unfortunately. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

        • William Campbell

          That’s crap.. we as fans wanted change and here it is.. if Albert really wanted to be in Kansas city he would have kept his mouth shut and played ball
          Dude is 11-15 talent wanting top 3 money. Good riddance.

          • redchiefs

            I won’t say good riddance, but you are right, if he really wanted to be in KC, he’d shown up. Who else can just decide not show up for work after signing a 40% pay raise? Really, who would refuse to show up after getting a 40% pay raise? Out here in the real world, no one is truly guaranteed a job if they don’t show up for work.

          • micah stephenson

            I think the Chiefs told Albert to stay away becus they trading him.

          • Justin R Groth

            If you got a 40% raise at your job but were told you would probably get fired in a week, plus you had to learn a new way of doing things would you show? He was on trade block before he didn’t show up and all he asked was for them to tell him if he was really going to be traded or not.

          • William Campbell

            Technically not fired.. transferred

          • Justin R Groth

            He us basically fired from our team… like fired with strong reference

          • KCinTX

            At the moment team practices are not mandatory, In our world that would be like getting fired for not going to the annual pick nick. I don’t go because i don’t want to spend my Saturday talking about work related events. My boss tells me every year that I should attend. I have not attending one for over 12 years and I haven’t been let go or traded yet. I will have to ask for a 40% pay raise in order to see if that has any effect on my pick nick attendance.

          • micah stephenson

            Yall didnt say that about D.Bowe!!! I dont recall ANYONE saying he is a 11-15 talent but wants top 3 money so good riddance.

          • thabear04

            That true you never hear guys like Derrick Johnson or Flowers bout wanting more money or if they gonna trade me then trade me. And that’s why they got a 2nd contract and are still with the Chiefs.

          • Justin R Groth

            Your right I wanted change, I wanted better qb play better SILB. Not to take one of our only strengths and make not one but two needs. best case scenario if we trade Albert is we waste a 1.1 pick to replace a darn good player. Now we are invested in an admittedly better qb who might be really good or might not, who is not real mobile who might have his blind side protected by a rookie LT. We did improve our CB spot a little bit however considering how many fans we perfectly fine to see Smith leave the dolphins I’m not exactly over abundent with that confidence. So far we replaced Breaston with Avery, boss with fasano, Winston with a guy who would rather play RG and Siler with another special teamer. how is that different than what pioli did in FA please tell me. I want to be wrong I really do but not sure I am. I see us as anywhere from a 6-10 twin to a 9-7 team. The only reason I went so high was Ried>>>>Crennel as a head coach, however his line and d got him fired in Philly

        • dominicscarlatti

          There are many parameters examined when evaluating a player in totality. His age, medical condition, salary cap number, etc. are among them.

          • KCinTX

            Like trading Tony because he is past his prime or trading J. Allen because he had 2 DWI and was considered unreliable. Can you tell me how good D Bowe would be if Tony G was still with us or how many more sacks T Hali would have if J. Allan was also rushing the QB. You cant but you should have been able to. We traded 2 potential HOF players for Charles, Areanas and Albert. Charles may not be able to take the pounding in the new offence, Areanas is sub par and Albert is up for trade. What a deal. I would bet there are 31 teams that would love to make that trade with us.

            The past is the past and cant be changed. But one can review the past and make corrections in judgment. If it looks and sounds like a duck. Chances are its a duck.

    • Justin R Groth

      I fully agree. At times I feel like the chiefs are a glorified minor league team to develop talent. I mean I have seen fans say we should also trade Hali and Charles.

      • redchiefs

        I don’t think they’re minor league talent at all. Now that we have Dorsey and Reid, I expect us to be a consistent division champion, and consistently challenging for Conference titles. Honestly I do. GO CHIEFS!

        • Justin R Groth

          It’s not a pioli or a Oh no, the talebt is good I’m just frustrated because every year it seems one of our better players our out the door ( I understand EVERY YEAR is an exaggeration) It’s not Pioli or the king or anyone person. It’s just frustrating in general.

  • Danny W

    Deal needs to get done pronto. We need some more cap space.

    • William Campbell

      Agreed… they don’t find some cap space soon they won’t be able to sign their draft picks

      • dominicscarlatti

        I wonder if Dorsey has a contract restructure to finalize and announce to clear the required cap space for our draftees. Trading BA would also address this, of course.

      • Danny W

        Could also use a good right tackle in free agency. Andre Smith or Tyson Clabo.

  • Lyle Graversen

    At this point I’m ready to make the deal. Would I have loved it if the Chiefs resigned Albert to a long term deal and didn’t draft a LT in the first round? Yes, I would have, but it’s clear to me that for whatever reason Reid/Dorsey don’t think Albert is worth it. Once you come to terms with that, then trading him and getting an early 2nd rounder is the best option at this point. We free up cap space and should be able to draft and immediate impact player with that pick. That beats paying him almost 10 million dollars to either play RT or keep our new LT from playing his natural position and then have him walk for nothing next offseason.

    I don’t like that we’re at this point, but since we are let’s get a valuable pick for him.

    • ladner morse

      Lyle, I usually agree with you on most points so let me say first… I agree with everything you’ve just said.

      Here’s my gripe… on face value… a very good LT tackle, Branden Albert, who was drafted 15th overall, and who is now in his prime…… is worth more than the 42nd pick in this years draft.

      The other half of this deal that aggravates me is… Joeckel for Albert is no guarantee that the Chiefs get better. IOW… it’s a lateral move from a business stand point and consequently somewhat of a waste of a “first pick in the draft.”

      I can look at this positively too… saying… if you told me before the off season began that by the end of the draft…. we’d have 1) the best FA QB out there, 2) the best LT in this draft and 3) another draft pick like ILB Kevin Minter or freakishly athletic OT Terron Armstead or DT Jesse Williams…….. and all we’d have to give up in the process was Branden Albert and our first two picks in the draft…….. then I’d probably say wow, yes, let’s do it and be happy.

      However, now that they’re on the precipice of doing this deal… it feels like a step backwards.

      • dominicscarlatti

        Fair enough, Ladner, but how do you evaluate the 9.5 million cap number under the tag this season for BA? Minter would be a very popular pick for us if we could get him with a pick acquired via trade.

        • berttheclock

          It is not about the 9.5, but, the high long term cost for a LT with back problems. The Dolphins thought Jake Long was asking for too much after suffering back problems and seeing his production drop off. Bit of irony is, now, they want a LT who has had back problems. But, should he pass his physical…… However, what is not mentioned in the above article is Ireland has two problems. One to shore up his LT spot to protect Tannehill and the other to find a quality CB to replace losing Smith to the Chiefs. He would not be able to solve both problems via the draft. So, work a trade for Albert, who lives in Florida BTW, and would be more agreeable to a contract with them, then, trade up to be able to pick up Milliner. Should this come off for a 2nd, then, I see a win for the Chiefs. Younger and cheaper at LT and a quality depth player in the 2nd would work for me.

          • micah stephenson

            Albert has already passed his physical and is working out. His back is fine.

        • ladner morse

          The 9.5 mil contract is just a fork in the current road…. a road that Scott Pioli was partly the reason for with contracts like the one he gave Hali… and this fork also includes all the players Reid and Dorsey have signed so far… while not leaving themselves enough cap space. They have essentially painted themselves into a corner and now the only way out appears to be the weaken the club first and then begin to put Humpty back together again.

          It’s a faulty philosophy. I will accept… for now… that this was mostly brought on by some bad Pioli decisions… but, if it happens again… it’s on Reid and Dorsey.

  • sidibeke

    I hope they hold out for Mia’s earlier 2nd rounder.

    • chiefdeorty

      I am pretty sure that any trade would have to their own second pick per the rules.

      • sidibeke

        I think you can trade any pick put compensatory but not certain.

  • Trent Taylor

    Sounds like he’s gone. At least theyll get something for him. Pioli would’ve let him go for nada. A la B. Carr. Bring on the draft!

    • KCMikeG

      We got a 3rd round pick for Carr this year.

  • NathanaelL

    YES! make the trade! We could use that 2nd round draft pick for that hole in ilb! Maybe Riddick or Minter will be available.

  • Justin R Groth

    This is so depressing as a fan to be honest, it feels like we are a minor league team for the NFL. its a stupid cycle we draft we develop they reach those prime and are good we then jettison then off for picks, they have good career while the chiefs are in forever flux of mediocrity. The only good thing about Alex smith trade was I didn’t see a qb option in the second round as good as he. Please point a second round player that is a guarantee to be better than Albert. Whatever this off-season in a personnel stand point has been aggravating. We sign a bunch of pioiesce players for more than pioli prices, instead of growing balls and drafting a qb to leas our franchise we go for Alex smith who had 1.5 good seasons in is 7 or 8 year career, and I get over it, then they drop our talented RT, who every hates because he called the fan base out (and from my point of view rightly so) now we are going to let go of our proven LTso we can replace him with a rookie. somewhere Von Miller is smiling. Hopefully we pick Fisher instead of joeckle since Joeckle had the luxury of blocking fora mobile qb that was able to save his rear a few times. Unfortunately Fisher’s opponents talent level wasn’t exactly top notch. But hey whatever go chiefs 8-8 here we come.

    • Derek

      you sir hit the nail on the head….I’m afraid to watch the draft as it will absolutely ruin my homework concentration when I start cursing this poor excuse of a front-office….

    • sidibeke

      Can’t say I agree with you on that one. This front office, in its few short weeks, kept Bowe and Colquitt. The, uh, predecessor did keep JC, Hali, Flowers. I’ve followed teams who let their players go when they get too expensive. I’m not convinced we won’t find ourselves with a younger, healthier and BETTER LT while saving cap space.

      I was shocked by the Winston cut. I do think it interesting that no one has scooped him up, yet. Likewise, I’ve come to think A Smith was THE best option for KC right now at QB. I was on the Geno bandwagon for a bit, but look at how all the other QB needy teams have scrambled these past couple of weeks to pick up Flynn, Kolb, Palmer. I have no idea how Alex will play, but I feel better about him than ANY of those guys. And no other NFL team, clearly, seems to think too highly of the draft class.

      • Justin R Groth

        If we get a cheaper young tackle who gives up 2 sacks we declined at that position from last year. Winston still being available is partially due to the low cap this year and the CBA meaning a team could try for a good tackle in the draft (because it’s not unheard of too find OL talent in the second round) if that fails there are some decent to good ones left. As for Geno part of his issue could be that the “Experts” said no no no so many times when the chiefs chose to let go of their second round pick for Alex everyone panicked (maybe). We will see what happens however if nobody who NEEDS a QB doesn’t pick him up I can see a team pulling a ARODG and drafting him and keeping him benched for 3-4 years (like I wanted the chiefs to actually do after we got alex,) However I agree Alex>>>Flynn, Kolb or Palmer. However the guy gots 3-6 years left tops, it would have been nice to long term Albert and get Geno to take over for the next 6-8 years after that, because that would show planning for the future. However I still think we are a 6-10 to 9-7 team this year.

  • Jim Harper

    This is encouraging news to say the least. This probably had to be done. I think Albert priced himself out of KC. I was fortunate enough to meet him at camp 3 years ago and came away impressed and I wish him the best, but this is the right move for KC. Now we should hold on to that #1 pick unless it is too good to pass up, but at least we are in a position of strength. Go Chiefs!

  • Chief Hokie

    So a young. “probowl-caliber” LT (according to Andy) is only worth a second rounder?

  • redchiefs

    Too bad we don’t know for sure what Albert’s agent is asking for on the long term deal. It’s too bad we don’t know what the Chiefs offered Albert on a long term deal before the tag had to be placed, I don’t blame them for using the tag on Albert considering how well he’s played. But, after giving him 9.85mil for a one year deal, which he signed, he decides to not show up for voluntary work, I really can’t blame KC for trying to trade him. Really, I know Albert wants to play LT, but if KC would draft any of those top 3 tackles, Albert needs to understand he’d have to compete for his spot because he might not be as good as any of them are.

  • redchiefs

    If this goes through, it’s because he’s willing to work out a long term deal with Miami. Apparently he isn’t willing to do the same for the Chiefs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1387073453 Phantom’Da Rhymocide Spade

    Have anybody ever thought these guys might actually like Donald at LT, and would sign another vet to battle it out from RT and reserve? Big Don was a high draft pick last year and now has starters experience going into camp. Dont count that guy out. But since we haven’t jumped on a 2nd rounder yet. Maybe we are looking for dat first or both 2nds? If one of the top tackles in the draft drops to thier pick in the 1st. They will burn it on that position anyway.

  • berttheclock

    This could work out far better than Disaster Pioli picking up two rejects from the Dolphins, in the two “offensive” linemen, Andy Allemon and Ikechuku Ndukwe.

  • chiefdeorty

    I wanted AB to improve and be a good LT and he did get a lot better. The problem is we have had a big problem with losing players because we could not sigh them and you can’t put that tag on everyone, so getting something back is better than getting nothing. We don’t have a second and with the talent they say that would be there than maybe they can get a player would could step in right away and compete now.
    I see this as a positive because he has become a prima- donna, maybe he will play another 10yrs and be a hal of fame type player but money is a issue in this bussines. R&D are working on something here lets let them do what they get paid for and be happy we get something now that can help us.

  • micah stephenson

    Why is everyone acting like B.Albert is the bad guy? Its ovious the chiefs NEVER intended on paying him. They only franchise tagged him to trade him and get something for him. They dont want him at the team workouts cus they know they trading him. His back is fine. He has passed his physical and is working out on his own. The Chiefs dont CARE about Albert, they are USING him at this point.

    • jbyrd

      He made the decision to sign the contract. No one was twisting his arm to get paid 9.6 million for a single year. I understand him wanting to know what his future holds but he made his decision and now he’s hedging his bet.

    • Danny W

      The guy tweeted this year that Luke Joeckel couldn’t hold his jock strap when Luke is the better prospect with more upside. He also said publicly that he’s a left tackle essentially saying he won’t move positions. He’s a malcontent and trading him was the best move that could have been made.

  • micah stephenson

    Wow. This kinda reminds me of how when Pioli came to town and got rid of B.Waters who imediatly went to the superbowl contending patriots and was they best olineman. Waters wasnt good enough for a 4 win team but he was good enough for the champs.

  • micah stephenson

    Downgrading from Albert and Winston to Stephenson and Jokel are money saving moves not Im trying to win moves.

    • KCinTX

      Interesting out look. So

      Chiefs give up Albert and early 2nd pick.

      Chiefs get A.Smith and mid or late 2nd.

      How dose that add up on the draft chart?

      • micah stephenson

        Negative. We go from pick 34 down to wat eva pick we get from mia and lose B.Albert in the process!

        • KCinTX

          You consider A. Smith worthless? I don’t see him as a perminate solution but he is an up grade from what we had. Basically trading back and Albert for upgrade at QB.

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    1.) BA is gone. They better get MIA 42 vs 54 & would like another 5th rounder if possible.

    2.) If sign Clabo, DS at LT, draft DJ2!! Hali needs to be replaced soon and I am enamoured by DJ2′s versatility. Manning would hate DJ2!!!

    3.) Need a TE. Love Fasano but Moeaki is not dependable. ERTZ!!!

    4.) ILB-A Brown is my #1 but think Alonzo/Bostic whoever is avail at 96/99

    5.) FSU kicker–Grab him late, dude is a stud.

    6.) Sign Charles Woodson!! Berry and Woodson at safeties OMFG!!

    7.) Have San Fran on a dedicated phone line. Every 5 minutes talk to them about trading with them for more picks.

    8.) Draft 3 Ducks-DJ3, Barner and Alonzo

    9.) Draft Tyler Wilson. He is going to be the surprise QB this year!!!

    10.) Fill Arrowhead and Bring the F-ing noise KC. No more half empty stadiums. You make a difference. I was there when Ryan Leaf peed down his legs all day cause he couldn’t hear. It is time to resurrect the Arrowhead of old and make it the toughest stadium to play in.

  • ArrowFan

    Once again we will be generously under the cap.

  • SoCo

    I think a lot of people are forgetting that Albert could have more serious health issues than many of us know about. This could be a great move trading him while he still has value, what if this season he hurts his back again and is never the same and were stuck with his salary, have no starting caliber left tackle cause we didn’t take one high in the draft, and don’t get that 2nd round pick (or more).

    • KCinTX

      If his back is in question they were smart to sign him with the tag. Signing him to only a 1 year 10 mil contract is insurance on his back. If he were to sign long term. The team would have the same risk but somewhere around 30 – 50 mil guaranteed in the contract.

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