The Chiefs Vision And The 2013 Draft

Like any good organization, the Chiefs operate with a team vision. Some organizations write their vision statements down. Some don’t and operate with a vision that changes as times change.

That would be the Chiefs.

When you change from one set of general managers/coaches to another, the vision for your organization is going to change dramatically. When a GM signs one significant player after another — and releases significant players too — everyone gets a clearer picture of the vision for the team.

As the draft approaches — with significant questions unanswered — many are wondering what the next step of the current regime will be.

The answer may lie in looking to the… yet possible visions.

John Dorsey and Andy Reid appear to be on the same page. What does that really mean? It sounds like they share a similar vision.

In a program called the “Dream Manifesto” Thomas Herold says,

A vision is a strong force in anyone’s life, but a vision is essential in business…. When you create a successful vision, you begin to feel passionate about it…. When a vision is spread through a company, it pushes both the leaders and employees toward the same goals together rather than separately. Visions can successfully turn a corporate hierarchy into a harmonious and well-organized group.

Anyone who has been following the Chiefs for the past four years knows that the Chiefs had no “shared” vision. There was only Scott Pioli’s way and everyone else was a bystander. Including Todd Haley.

But, that was the past, and I digress.

Now, apparently several player prospects are still in the running to become the K.C. Chiefs number one pick. By taking into account how each of these prospects will affect the scheme and team, we can determine their dreamy outer limits, or their acute limitations.

Let’s begin with a rising star on the draft board, Eric Fisher.

If the Chiefs keep Branden Albert and draft Eric Fisher then plug him in at RT, they’d have a formidable offensive line. With Albert and Fisher locking down the outside pass rush, Alex Smith should get more time in the pocket than previous Chiefs QBs have seen in years. By signing G/TGeoff Schwartz, who says he favors playing Guard, the weakest positions along the OL should be Center and one Guard spot. The return of Rodney Hudson and possibly Ryan Lilja could solidify the Center position leaving  the other Guard spot for Jon Asamoah with Jeff Allen and Lilja offering solid back-ups there. This places OT Donald Stephenson as the Tackle back-up and spot starter.

Can you see it? Can you visualize it? I can, and it looks pretty awesome to me. Whether it will come to be, or not, is another thing but, it all starts with the vision.

Drafting OT Eric Fisher, who is said to have more upside than Luke Joeckel, semi-completes the Chiefs  offensive front and gives them a strong presence there. Fisher may allow a few more rookie mistakes than Joeckel but, because of his continued progress should develop into a premiere OT in the league… eventually. He also gives the Chiefs the flexibility to trade Albert down the line so he can swing over to LT, if and when.

All these same things can be said about Luke Joeckel except, with Joeckel, there comes a greater expectation for him to take over as the team’s LT from the get go.

Andy Reid has come out and stated that he wants his players to play where they want to play. In that sense, Fisher appears to be a better fit for the vision going forward.

Better team chemistry.

Creating a new team vision blossoms from the excitement that grows while conceptualizing… and in the process concurrently perceiving how well a prospective player’s skills jell with existing players… and simultaneously weighing the cost factor of an alternative vision lost.

If you choose one vision… you lose another.

This isn’t always true of course but, is usually the consequence.

I know a talented pianist, who upon graduating, had to choose between studying the piano or following another dream, a career in dance. They chose dancing, then danced around the world and saw every part of that vision come to life. They could still play piano, but obviously not at the level they would have, if they’d followed that vision through.

It’s an either/or choice for the Chiefs. They can trade the first pick… and hopefully pick up more picks… but, even then they must follow one path or another.

A vision the Chiefs could follow, is to draft a defensive lineman like Sharrif Floyd. Floyd doesn’t project well to NT so, the Chiefs would likely be taking him to play Defensive End. Floyd at his best can cause havoc anywhere along the defensive line. However, Floyd has a total of 4.5 sacks for his college career so… if Chiefs fans are counting on him to provide the pass pressure that Glenn Dorsey didn’t, then their vision of having Floyd in red and gold needs to be adjusted. Dorsey’s frame, 6-2, 316 and Floyd’s frame, 6-3, 297, are not tremendously different and so bringing in Floyd in to give the DL a big shot in the arm may not be a dream that ever comes to fruition… much like the addition of Glenn Dorsey in 2008.

The vision of Star Lotulelei at DT tackle may not be tremendously different than bringing Floyd in at DE either. The Chiefs are looking for a push against the OL on passing downs and while Lotulelei is very good against the run, he had 7.0 sacks in three years. However, 5.0 of those sacks came in his Senior season and it’s clear from watching games he’s played in that he is a disruptive force. However, if you go back and watch game tape of Glenn Dorsey in his last year at L.S.U., Star looks like a mirror. Both looked like the most driven players on the field but, Star’s limitation, short arms, means he’s not able to bat balls down when they’re released by the QB, which off sets his ability to penetrate. Lotulelei has some leadership ability that is unquestioned but, is that enough to make the Chiefs… “disruptive defensive line vision”… a dream come true?

The answer is… the vision of creating more pressure on opposing QBs may have to come from another defensive position. A position like, linebacker.

Another vision currently floating about the Chiefs cosmos, is the one about LB Dion Jordan. Some will argue that this dream would be better fulfilled by drafting the equally freakish athlete, Ezekiel “Ziggy” Ansah. Ansah may be the answer for some team high in the first round but, Dion Jordan is drawing some buzz around town as a legitimate potential #1 overall prospect.

When coupled with the Chiefs triumvirate Pro Bowl cartel… Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson and Justin Houston… the specter of fusing Jordan’s hyper-dynamics makes for some pretty sweet visions of sugary plum hits (check out the tatoo at 2:21), all dancing in the head. To catch a glimpse of the real “vision” that is Dion Jordan, please don’t miss this 3:09 minute “ESPN Sports Science” presentation.

Oracles Andy Reid and Bob Sutton (the Chiefs new DC) can utilize Jordan in mixing pressure packages to run an attacking style defensive with endless ideation. For Sutton, this scheme will be similar to what his previous head coach, Rex Ryan, preferred and making Jordan a feature is the most natural fit because he gives Sutton all the flexibility possibly needed to run, and  s t r e t c h, that scheme.

Dion Jordan can drop into coverage and, at 6-6, make sure TEs aren’t going to gouge the defense as they have in years past. Antonio Gates has barbequed the Chiefs, on their own home field turf, enough to last a lifetime.

Using Dion Jordan as an ILB , as some are suggesting, resets the standards for what an ILB may be judged by. At 6-6 and 240, Jordan brings an athletic body to that position.  The Chiefs Derrick Johnson is 6-3 and 242 so the one outstanding difference is Jordan’s height. However, Jordan also brings a muscular flexibility that allows him to bend around the corner when pursuing a QB that is rare. It’s difficult to imagine Jordan not excelling next to the Chiefs divine trio

While fantasies of future prospects waltzing into the Chiefs lineup dominate my draft day experience… the visions lost… do so as well.

If the Chiefs take OLB Dion Jordan the questions along the OL remain… potentially… nightmare material. I’m sure it’s not what Alex Smith envisioned when he spit in his palm and shook hands with Andy for the privilege of coming to Kansas City.

If the Chiefs take Eric Fisher or Luke Joeckel… the offensive line gets better but, the defense will likely still have a hole in the heart and the pass rush will suffer for it.

If the Chiefs draft a QB @ #1… though many fans may rejoice… the offensive line and the pass rush may remain an Achilles heel.

If the Chiefs can trade out of the number one slot and acquire another pick in the second round… as Lyle Graversen pointed out in his post called, “Can John Dorsey Make A Deal?”… the Chiefs will be in a prime position to take two players in the top 50, both of whom should be able to step in and contribute as starters on day one. Graversen says picks 15-50 is where the real value lies in this draft.

As I stated in a reply on my most recent post,

Unless Reid and Dorsey can either… 1) trade back out of the number one spot thereby picking up a 2nd round pick or… 2) trade Albert and pick up a 2nd round pick… then taking an ILB who can come in and start right away is probably not going to happen in the draft (assuming they don’t take Jordan at #1).

The primary choice here is trading back out of the first pick because the Albert trade basically demands they turn around and use their number one pick on an OT since they would have just traded their LT away.

You’d have to think R&D are doing what they can to get value in a trade for the #1 pick… but that… if it’s going to happen… probably won’t happen… until draft day. They’ll also wait until draft day to make sure no other team comes along and offers more than may have already been laid on the table.

Wouldn’t it be great to be a fly on the wall and know what the actual offers already are. R&D have said they have already gotten calls… so… you have to hope the offers were real and reasonable and open ended so they can still be acted upon when the drafting moment arrives.

The real coup for the Chiefs… would be making both trades… Albert and the #1 pick. Then they’d end up with a high 1st-rounder & two 2nd-rounders… probably three players who would come in and start on day one.

Now… that should change the whole vision for what the Kansas City Chiefs will become in 2013.

Okay Addicts… do you have a vision? Or a nightmare?

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  • krayfish

    Good morning AA. My brother and I were discussing this scenario you mentioned in the opening paragraphs recently. I think it may be possible that Reid wants Albert here one last season if they can’t trade him, just to train Stephenson and let Stephenson have one more year to grow into a bad ass LT. I can see that and we would have one hell of an offensive line. Nice post, thanks for the hard work.

    • ladner morse

      Hey thanks… I’ve been thinking about doing a piece on Stephenson at some point because he has it in him to become an excellent OT… on which side I’m not sure but, I thought he did a better than respectable job filling in for Albert last season. If he can step up… it will make a big difference in the way Reid reshapes the Chiefs roster along the OL……

      • elly violette

        I hope you do a piece on Stephenson. He is a local kid you know and a lot of people would enjoy hearing more about him. He played for a great college coach and there are some who think he should be starting for the CHiefs. He did a good job last year filling in for Albert.

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    Sign Albert and grab DJ2. We need more pressure on opposing QBs. We have a good secondary but they cant defend for 5-6 seconds on pass plays

    • ladner morse

      “DJ2″…. I like that a lot. Or… maybe they could become known as “Thing 1″ and “Thing 2″………. like in Dr. Seuss.

    • KCMikeG

      I’m thinking we will stick to the franchise tag unless Albert realizes he not going to get the deal he wants elsewhere and is willing to be very reasonable.

      IMO DJ2 will become #1 quickly as he excels at our most painful weakness – covering the TE.

    • Derek

      eh our secondary is much improved but not shut-down by anymeans….dunta robinson was a mistake clearly when we could’ve had miliner overall….

      • ladner morse

        I don’t think Robinson will end up at CB … probably be Sean Smith. The drafting process is always a trade of to some degree… if they take Joeckel — will Albert be replaced? If they take Dion Jordan some think Hali may be replaced in one way or the other. If they take Geno Smith then Alex must step aside at some point. All trade offs. In your example… I’m not sure many people will accept the trade off — Milliner instead of Seam Smith. Hmm. It doesn’t work for me at all… especially when you consider that all these other prospects mentioned above …would have to be passed up to make that move.

        • Derek

          well i was thinking more miliner or robinson but you seem to be thinking robinson will play more Free safety? Isn’t that the position we have the MOST depth in though? Do we need a nother? Any chance robinson is capable of playing the slant or will arenas be the slant guy? Edit: by slant I meant NB but couldn’t think of what the technical position was at 2 in the morning lol

  • [email protected]

    If we keep Albert I say we don’t need to draft a tackle first round maybe 3rd 4th, and for the record I’ll take Alex Smith over any prospect we could’ve got in the second round anyday.

    • [email protected]

      I have a feeling being in KC is exactly what Reid needs to rejuvenate his career one again.he seems like his younger self in interviews..i’m so exited GO CHIEFS!!!!

      • ladner morse

        Yea… I think the beat-down was getting to him in Philly. He does seem to have a little more pep in his step these days.

        However… it has to be invigorating to have the first pick in the draft too.

        • Derek

          it has to be nerve-racking just as much as it is exciting…the first pick this year will make or break or the reid dorsey experiment in the eyes of the fan-base and I know i’m not the only one thinking this way. At best everyone here is giving them 2 years though I’m positive they’re each signed for 3-5

          • elly violette

            That’s a good question for one of espn’s game show formats… “how many fans would rather “have” or “not have” the first pick in the draft? If you are a new GM or new coach coming in… I guess it’s yes. If you are a returning coach and GM… probably not.

          • ladner morse

            Okay Vanna… maybe you could be a Chiefs Sports Game Show host for AA.

      • Jim Harper

        I picked up on that too. Reid seems like a kid in the candy store. He absolutely glows when talking about this team.

  • kmon

    DION JORDAN!!! move hali back on the line,have him put about 10more lbs on and I think we would have the best pass rushing core in the league hands down. Offensive coordinators will have nightmares about facing our D! let’s get him. CHIEFS NATION!!!!!!

    • berttheclock

      For someone who wants a solid offensive line, I really can not argue against Jordan. Pete Carroll has learned “Speed Kills”, especially, on defense. Living in the Nike World of Oregon, all season long I kept being amused by the writers who were crowing about the offensive speed of Nike U. What they kept over looking was the tremendous speed on defense and Jordan became a beast. If your opponent can not set up against you, then, he can not block you.

      • elly violette

        When I watch the highlights of Dion Jordan…… Kiko Alonso also keeps showing up… he’s very fast too. If the Chiefs can’t draft Jordan, then perhaps they can take Alonso later?

        • KCMikeG

          Excellent call!

          • elly violette

            Makes you kind of wonder why they don’t have any female GMs.

        • ladner morse

          I have written about Kiko Alonso before. I think the Chiefs can draft him later and he’ll be very very good.

        • Derek

          i want kiko anway with our 3rd compensatory. I think he’s just as strong as kevin minter at ILB and will shut the run down as well as be able to rush the QB. Would love to have both alonso and jordan….yeah that’s teh stuff dreams are made of and hope tyrann matheiu can be grabbed in the early 5th and our D will have some solid Depth….where we get the safety from though? a lot of ppl want johnathan cyprien in the 2nd that would be a great pick-up as well.

    • ladner morse

      That’s what I’m talking about… Ideas that have legs…

      I’m not sure they would do this with Hali… Take one of the leagues best pass rushers and make him change positions, AGAIN…… But I love the idea!

      • Jim Harper

        That is why my preference would be for Ansah. He has the size to be a DE in the 3-4 and the speed to rush the QB and with him AND Hali coming from the same side, someone is going to get through.

        • elly violette

          Why do you think the Chiefs should take another defensive lineman when doing that several in the past five seasons hasn’t had any great impact like fans keep thinking it’s going to have.

        • Derek

          ansah it’s top-5 though…i mean after jordan defensively who is? star? my guess is after miliner there is a pretty large drop-off and a tackle run. Not too mention everyone has to be clamoring for a shot T-awesome! I like your thinking though but I’m with Ms Violette D-line hasn’t had impact yet and we’ve been investing too much into it to not have an impact. Time to find the rush elsewhere…I’ll jump on the jordan band-wagon but if not him I still think Geno is the next best thing

  • berttheclock

    Ladner, very good points about both Dorsey and Reid sharing a common philosophy about building a winning team. On another thread at this site, I had gone back to check on another regime change in the NFL (Patrick Allen’s second love, the Browns). I found Phil Savage and Romeo never really put a solid philosophy together to rebuild the Browns in ’05 and 3 years later, they were both dumped. From reviewing their ’05 to ’08 drafts, there was no apparent vision of what they really were trying to accomplish. Add bringing in too many FAs who did not fit, and it became a formula for disaster.

    • elly violette

      I’ve wondering why both Reid and Dorsey say they believe in building through the draft and then made this the most active free agency period in Chiefs history.

      • ladner morse

        Yea… interesting right? However, I think they came into a cap situation that allowed them to make some moves they probably not going to be making in future off seasons.

      • Jim Harper

        Because this team had too many needs to address with the draft alone.

  • freshmeat62

    I sat here and wrote a long diatribe about various scenarios, and speculations about what could happen, and read and re-read it. Almost all of it I had written before, either here, at Arrowheadpride, or on the Star’s site. I realized I’m scenarioed, and speculated out, so I deleted it. I just want the dang thing (draft) to get here.

    • ladner morse

      That almost exactly describes the process I go through every time I write a new post. Write it. Erase it. Re-write it. Erase most of it. Publish it.

      • oldchiefsfan

        I do the same thing but most of the time I don’t post it. It seems like much of what I would say would just be repeating what has already been said by me and so many others. I just want the draft to be over so we can begin to see a bit of what the team will be.

        • KCMikeG

          Come on guys! Don’t you know if you say it enough times to enough people it becomes true? My perspective seems to be evolving and I thank the writers and my fellow posters for new perspectives whenever possible. The Jordan pick is one I am really coming around on. I wouldn’t be disappointed with Fisher at #1 either after my recovery from being blinded by the shining of the the wheels on the Geno bandwagon.

          • elly violette

            Michael, I am feeling the same way… that my own oreferences are evolving. What is really happening is… I now have a wider group of prospects I will be happy with if the Chiefs are unable to trade out of the first pick. Fisher, Jordan, Geno, Joeckel. That’s a lot when I think about how two weeks ago I was still mostly a… trade or get Geno fan.

          • KCMikeG

            I painted myself into a corner last year and it ruined my Draft Day Party. I had my heart and soul set on DeCastro. Lesson learned.

          • elly violette

            That’s why I’m happy to have nearly half a dozen choices that will make me happy if the Chiefs go one way or the other.

          • ladner morse

            So.. what are your… “half-dozen?”

          • KCMikeG

            I know you asked elly but I’ll chip in mine. Jordan, Smith, Fisher, Minter, Richardson, Rhodes & my wild card is Tavon Austin. With Bowe & Baldwin being the big posssession WR having Austin and McCluster all over the field (WR, RB & ST) and Avery drawing coverage deep – all I can say is watch out Coach Vermeil your scoring records will be challenged!

          • Derek

            love xhavier rodes he and desi trufant were my favorite prospects at CB. kevin minter going number 1 overall!? That i don’t see. Arthur Brown isn’t even a 1st round prospect. A prospect in the 2nd I loved was Johnathan cyprien as well since we really need some SS depth and lewis just isn’t a true play-maker/baller, however for bting what was he a 4th round selection, not a bad deal then. I really also wanted Boyett the SS out of oregon. kid is a baller and plays fierce not afraid to go out there and make that tackle and if he’s there in the 6th what say you abotu pulling the trigger on him?

          • ladner morse

            I remember a couple of years ago when I was locked in on Aaron Curry. Not to smart on that one!

        • elly violette

          Yea, but guessing what the roster will turn out like is all the fun of it at this point in the off season.

    • elly violette

      Yes, just when I thought I’d heard it all…. Morse comes along with the vison idea and way of looking at and it has altered my point of view especailly about Dion Jordan.

  • chiefridgy

    Great article. Dion Jordan is a beast! I don’t see how the Chiefs can pass on him.

    • elly violette

      I was wondering the same thing. I think it’s possible that when Andy Reid and John Dorsey met with Dion Jordan they were so impressed that they have to take the position of being open to several prospects —— but maybe they have already decided. I can see why they’d be wowed.

      • ladner morse

        I think this is the time of year when nothing coaches or GMs say can be trusted….. they all have ulterior motives.

        • elly violette

          Maybe this is the time of year when no one can trust anything any sports reporter says either. Really, no one seems to know anything for sure!

  • KCPauly

    DJ2 that is awesome, and I like the idea, if we can get Albert signed or trade for more picks, then we should definitely take DJ2 he sounds like a beast…honestly I am just glad we are not talking about Geno for a change…GO TANNEY!!!!!I mean GO CHIEFS!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/baeticu.elena Balasa Elena-Violeta

      Wow… I love the idea of “DJ2″…….. How about “DJ Uno” and “DJ Dos” ?

      I can surely get a feel for how good they’d be together.

      • ladner morse

        Some one would then have to come up with a name for Hali, DJ1, DJ2, & Houston. The fab four has been taken!

        • Derek

          you mean fab5 at michigan basketball?? lol

          • ladner morse

            No… but… something like that!

          • elly violette

            How about… H2DJ2?

    • ladner morse

      Sorry… but it may be that Tanney is a one “trick” pony!

      • Derek

        Blasphemy! At least he gives fans something to believe in, which evidentally is what this ball club is really missing this off-season and what the administration doesn’t seem to recognize. The fans need to speak up

        • KCPauly

          Yeah, Laddie give the kid a break I heard he was looking good before getting hurt, like Derek said at least he gives us something to believe, which is more than we have had in a long time, but at least we have another SF reject QB for WAY TOO MUCH $

          • ladner morse

            Something to believe in? Oh yea… that would be a YouTube video of Tanney bouncing a football off of one building and then off of a moving trash truck only to sink a shot through a basketball goal and into a trash can! Thanks for reminding me. Now I believe… I believe!

          • elly violette

            How do you spell… facetious?!?

          • KCPauly

            You know Laddie I like most of your articles and post but why don’t you go get his collegiate career stats and have a look at them and then post them back to me with more of your BS cynicism

  • http://www.facebook.com/baeticu.elena Balasa Elena-Violeta

    I saw Geno Smith on Gruden’s camp last night and now I’m more ready than ever for the Chiefs to make him their QB of the future. That’s my “vision”….

    • Derek

      I was happy with Geno but for curiosity sake I went and looked at a lot of the other Qb camp prospects of the year before like Russel Wilson. Geno falls somethwere between wilson drafted in the 3rd and tannehil drafted in the 1st so it averages out that among the best of the best he comes in the 2nd round sadly so as much as I want smith I have to start leaning toward Jordan but mark my words this team and the fans will be very upset when Geno finally breaks out in a year. The funny thing is though that Geno in a year or two at the latest will probably be better than both of them…I believe he’s the next aaron rodgers personally. Anyway whatever happens to him I wish him the best and really look forward to seeing him play; wish it was at arrowhead and it may still be just in the wrong jersey lol. I think he can start day 1 and make an impact but he won’t be outstanding out of the gun like that. Give him a year and the Geno-periment will definitely pay divdends

      • elly violette

        I don’t know if you saw Grudens Camp on Tuesday night with Geno Smith… but I thought it put him back on the map for being considered in the top five at the latest.

        • Derek

          i actually watched the youtube version last night along with comparing him to the prospects from the year before. Again he was solid but it appeared to me that Gruden was really drilling the kid like he wasn’t giving him any kind of approval; especially noting how simple the play-calling was even though it appeared complex. He also really disliked the 1 yd pass attempt you could tell by his demeanor. Anyway Geno was soiid but again he was better than tannehills and weedons but wilson and moore both blew genos away. I did note that he had the same skepticism about RG3 until RG gave him a pair of socks….lmao. But please do clue me in. What exactly did you see that made him worthy of being back in the number 1 talk?

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    I think the Chiefs are doing everything in their power to trade Albert. First because of money second because I dont think Dorsey likes malcontents. Maybe they are so hot to get back into 2nd rd to grab OL they like and grab DJ2 at #1. Stephenson has height to add some lbs. reid likes em tall and heavy!! DJ2 would provide so much versatility his value is exponential. Batting balls down, speed rush, TE coverage, blitz from anywhere. We have bunch of blitzers at different positions. We need to use our speed. No more rush 3 drop 8!! Bring the heat!!

    • ladner morse

      Preach it!!!! That’s the crazy wonderful kind vision I have stuck in my head when I watch tape on Dion Jordan!

  • Sam

    I’ve been reading comments made by berttheclock for going on, I think, ten years now, on various boards. Among other things, I keep wondering why one of these outlets hasn’t snapped up Bert to be a paid, regular contributor to their sites. As usual, great job Bert!

    Sam, Logan IA

    • ladner morse

      I would have to agree. All he needs to do is send samples of his writing to Patrick. AA is always looking for talented writers to add to the stable of good writers already here.

      In fact, it was jsut a week ago I recommended one of our bloggers… I don;t know if it was bert or not… but, that how the site maintains it’s edge… by drawing for the knowledgeable fan base already right here.

  • KCMikeG

    Fantastic as always Ladner! Hey when you are done with my brain to make sure to put it back!

    Really coming around on Jordan and while Ansah is promising Dion is already delivering. Definitely want Fisher over Joeckel but truly believe the value is there in rounds 3-4 with Quessenberry, Armstead & Schwenke and that Albert will stay in KC making it all the easier to wait on the OL pick.

    Call me crazy but I want to pass on Star & Floyd. Neither make a huge difference like Jordan does at LB. Give me Brandon Williams from Missouri Southern. Plus call me crazy but I think we have what we need on the DL. Sutton’s more attacking approach will help with the personnel we already have in Bailey (my 2013 most improved player candidate) and Poe, who was coming around nicely towards the end of his rookie year. DeVito is an upgrade against the run over Dorsey and Sutton brought him with him for a reason. Jackson has steady improved and may actually make most stop using the “B” word when describing him.

    If R&D can, I believe they will, pull off even one of the two trade scenarios I will be thrilled with our draft potential. The vision will be revealed in two weeks. It feels like Christmas to me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Davidedwinbell David E. Bell

      * Michael — figure a way to get Williams if we can. I really think very highly, as noted, about Jordan. I stick to getting first things first, protecting the QB. Albert can go or stay but his attitude is him first. We need a team of winners and not troublemakers. They way it was then. White hats, knee deep and elbows. – Dai

      • ladner morse

        Who believes in white hats any more? I thought Ryan Sims was going to wear a white hat for the D ten years ago too.

      • KCMikeG

        We already have two 3rd round picks. A trade back would get us the 2nd & maybe a 3rd round pick to take BIG Brandon.
        TWENTY FIVE . FIVE SACKS IN 3 YEARS!!
        Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern
        Height: 6-1. Weight: 341. Arm: 32 3/4. Hand: 9 5/8.
        40 Time: 5.37.
        Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
        4/6/13: Williams was a consistent pass-rusher over the last three seasons. He totaled 25.5 sacks over that time. Williams had 68 tackles, 16.5 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks and five forced fumbles this year. He totaled eight sacks and 35 tackles in 2011. Williams recorded nine sacks and 17 tackles for a loss as a sophomore. He helped himself by performing well at the Senior Bowl.

    • elly violette

      Michael, I agree with you that the Chiefs already have all the DL help they need and that the extra pass pressure should probably come from somewhere else.

    • ladner morse

      Thanks Michael. I don’t know much about Quessenberry. How do you know about him? Any good links to share?

  • KCMikeG

    Still in desperate need of a ticket for my daughter to the Season Ticket Holder Draft Day Party on the 25th. Please let me know if you can part ways with one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Davidedwinbell David E. Bell

    Like most fans(since the Texans arrived), I have had great disappointment in the results. I truly appreciated the piece on Vision and looked at the logic article who to draft — I like Jordan a lot. He looks to be a man who will be one of those special players. But I recall the Old AFL and what I recall are the trench wars, Ed Budde, Dave Hill, EJ Hollab, Jim Tierer. This was where the chiefs football games were won. They gave Lenny the time to make accurate passes and it was this that carried them through a good number of years. I am not overlooking the defense at all. But to get there you have to score and protecting the next QB, Smith or Daniels(the future maybe?)… Draft Joeckel. He wears a white hat. – David Bell, Indian River Lagoon, FL

    • elly violette

      I think R&D have plans to take one of the top 3 OL… and I heard Mayock say the 3 are all going to be Pro Bowl performers.

      • ladner morse

        If they can pull off the 1st pick trade…. they can get that done… then picking up a 2nd rounder will help too.

        • elly violette

          Yes, I hope that, but I don’t think any 2nd rounder will help the Chiefs on the OL this coming season.

    • Derek

      everything you mentioned about “trench wars” isn’t a big deal anymore. tons of offenses are getting it done with weak lines so don’t waste teh pick on a tackle….this emphasis on tackles is unacceptable… beef up the D or just a get a qb that doesn’t rely on everyone else first (GENO)

      • ladner morse

        Yes… and that’s a big reason I think the Chiefs should not waste the pick on ANOTHER trench war specialist.

        • Derek

          so wait. Mr. Morse AGREES with me!? lol finally I get some recognition

          • ladner morse

            Don’t get ahead of yourself Derek… we all make mistakes… now you have me second guessing myself. :)

          • elly violette

            C’mon… give the guy a break!

  • elly violette

    Did I read somewhere that Reid and Dorsey are neighbors? I don’t think that would have worked out for Pioli and Haley. :)

    • Derek

      lol thanks for the smile, girl

      • elly violette

        No probelm. Glad to be of service.

  • Derek

    lol nightmare…this draft is going to be a “DAMN! I knew we should’ve done….instead” come week 4; also I noticed how you writers keep mentioning how your drafts in the past havent worked out. Did you just call the wrong picks or find that they weren’t as good as you had hoped (like what everyone is wondering about baldwin still) Note I want steadman Bailey in the 3rd almost as much as i wanted Geno in the 1st. I’m set now with you guys if Jordan is the guy I won’t be disappointed but if they take him to lose hali and save some money in a year I will be sorely disappointed in dorsey. Still want Geno but you guys have convinced that Jordan has the largest impact on this team come week 1.

    • elly violette

      Yea, I wanted Geno at first… and now I want Jordan too… but, like you… I’d be perfectly fine with either one.