The Kansas City Quarterback Debate: A Tale of Two Smiths


 

The Kansas City Chiefs haven’t drafted Geno Smith, nor have they given any realistic indication they intend to and yet there still seems to be a quarterback controversy in the BBQ City. Chiefs’ head coach, Andy Reid, made it clear that Alex Smith is the starting quarterback. He further backed that up saying Smith is the guy he has wanted since the day he was hired to coach the team. Most of the Chiefs’ fan base has accepted this as fact. However, there is still a portion of “Chiefs Kingdom” who will “boo” any selection made with the first overall pick of the NFL Draft that doesn’t rhyme with “Dino Fifth.”

I’m okay with that. I like a little disparity in my fandom. I think having a bunch of “homers” who blindly follow the establishment doesn’t make for a very passionate bunch of fans. The problem is “Team Geno” is using flawed logic and half-truths as facts to back up the argument that the younger Smith is a better quarterback than the elder.

If I may, I’d like to address a few of those “facts” right now.

Fact #1: Statistically speaking, Geno Smith is a superior quarterback to Alex Smith.

To compare the younger Smith’s excellent collegiate statistics with the older Smith’s sub-par NFL stats makes as much as sense as comparing Chiefs fans to Raider fans. They are so different they shouldn’t even be in the same sentence. If one truly wants to compare stats, then the numbers should come from the same body of work — namely each Smith’s senior year in college.

In 2012, Geno Smith led the West Virginia Mountaineers through 12 regular season games and the Pin Stripe Bowl. During those 12 regular season games, his record was 7-5. He attempted 490 passes and completed 350 of them for an impressive 71.4% completion rate. His total passing yardage in the regular season was 4004 yards. He threw for an amazing 40 touchdowns on the season and was only picked off six times. In addition to that, he rushed for 155 yards and two more TDs. All in all, a pretty impressive stat line for a young man getting ready to leave college behind and enter the NFL.

Turning to Alex Smith, he was the starting signal caller for the Utah Utes in 2004. During that year, he started all 11 regular season games, and then led his team to a victory in the Fiesta Bowl. The Utes were undefeated in the 2004 season, winning every game by at least 17 points. Alex attempted 317 passes and completed 214 of them for a well above average 67.5% completion rate. His total distance through the air was 2952 yards. He threw 32 touchdowns and only 4 interceptions on the season. In addition to his arm, he used his legs to add 631 yards on the ground, reaching pay dirt 10 times. All in all, Alex Smith was a much better college quarterback than he’s shown in the pros.

However, there’s a bit more to Geno’s stats than meets the eye.

Geno Smith is the king of “throw short and hope for YAC” (yards after catch.) I’m not saying the short game with YAC is bad. In fact, Alex is in this category as well, especially in a “West Coast Offense,” but since “Team Geno” is claiming Geno is so much more superior to Alex, it’s worth mentioning this.

The younger Smith had the benefit of throwing to two of the most prolific wide receivers in college football this past year. Tavon Austin and Steadman Bailey combined for 2760 of Geno’s 4004 yards through the air, and an incredible 35 of his 40 touchdowns. Of the 2760 yards combined from his two primary receivers, over half of those (1462 yards) were YAC yards. Why is that significant? It shows that Geno Smith is not necessarily the high flying, long-ball, deep-threat quarterback the “Team Geno” homers would have you think he is.

Looking at Alex Smith’s paltry 2952 yards through the air lends one to ask the question, who was he throwing to? Honestly, I had no idea and had to look it up. Where Geno’s favorite targets, Austin and Bailey, are slated to go within the first three rounds of the 2013 NFL Draft, Alex Smith’s primary receivers had no NFL careers to speak of.

Paris Warren caught 80 of Alex Smith’s passes during the 2004 season with the Utes. He racked up just over 1000 yards receiving and 12 TDs. However, that is pretty much where Warren’s glory ended. He was drafted in the seventh round of the 2005 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and never really caught on.

Steve Savoy was Alex Smith’s second favorite target during the 2004 season. He caught 67 of Smith’s passes for 11 TDs. Unless you are a Utah Ute fan, (or an avid Wikipedia reader) you’ve probably never heard of Steve Savoy. He left college as a sophomore, received special eligibility to enter the 2005 NFL Draft, and expected to get selected in the third round. He never got the call and ended up signing as an undrafted free agent with the Detroit Lions. He was cut after the third preseason game and never saw the inside of an NFL locker room again.

Who is catching the ball is nearly just as important as who is throwing it. The quality of receivers on the other end of Geno Smith’s passes definitely increased – some would say inflated – his stats during the 2012 season. If you add all the YAC that his two primary receivers added up, the younger Smith isn’t all that much more impressive than the older one.

Fact #2: Alex Smith is nothing more than another San Fransisco 49er backup cast off to Kansas City.

I don’t know why so many people seem to think Alex Smith is a 49er backup. Is everyone’s memory so short that they don’t remember two seasons ago when the 49ers were a Kyle Williams fumble away from beating the Giants and going to the Superbowl? In no way, shape, or form did Alex Smith have anything to do with Williams’ fumble that cost the 49ers the NFC championship. Further, people seem to forget the fact that Alex Smith began this past season as the 49ers’ starter and had better than a 70% completion percentage before going out with a concussion. Enter Colin Kaepernick, and the rest is history.

I’m not taking anything away from the 49ers and their Superbowl run. Obviously 49ers head coach, Jim Harbaugh, made the right choice as Kaepernick is an outstanding and talented quarterback. I wish the Chiefs would have had the foresight to draft him. I am saying that the same thing happened to Alex Smith that happened to Joe Montana that happened to Drew Bledsoe that happened to Drew Brees that happened to countless other quarterbacks over the history of the NFL. They were playing well and then they got hurt. Their backup stepped up, played at a high level and the coaching staff decided to stay with the “hot hand.” This makes Alex Smith the victim of a bad situation, not “another SF back up.”

Fact #3:  Geno Smith will be a more successful NFL quarterback than Alex Smith.

Who knows? There may be truth to this one. I’m a blogger, not a fortune teller so I can’t say for sure. Alex Smith’s professional numbers have not been what most consider worthy of a No. 1 overall pick; that is for certain. However, is there more to being a successful quarterback than just 4500 yards passing and 40 TDs a season?

There is no argument that the quarterback position is probably one of the most unique positions in sports today. No other popular, organized sport has a position that stands up to the QB. They are the team leader, on-field coach, coordinator and the captain all rolled into one. It takes a special intellect and attitude to play the position. Some are good at it. Some are great at it. Some…well not so much. The qualities of a great quarterback are intangible. A lot of what separates a good QB from a great QB and allows a substandard QB to settle at the bottom is the leadership of a good, offensive minded coach and good work ethic by the player. The quarterback needs to be the first one in the building in the morning and they should be turning out the lights when they leave. They need to work harder and be smarter than everyone on the team. That’s where the two Smiths seem to separate.

“(Geno Smith is) not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived, and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. …

– Nolan Nawrocki

Those are harsh words coming from a respected draft scout. Watch him, though. Don’t settle for a 17 minute “Geno Smith’s Greatest Hits” video. Watch some real tape on him. He’s not a fighter. He’s not a leader. Do you think his stats would have been so inflated if his team wasn’t playing from behind half the season?

There is a power vacuum in the Chiefs’ locker room this year. Alex Smith has already stepped up and filled the void. It’s as simple as that. It takes more than a big arm and inflated stats to be a quarterback in this league. Look at JaMarcus Russel. Look at Ryan Leaf. These two were great, huge-stat, quarterbacks in college who tanked in the NFL because they had no leadership or poise.

The key to all of this is, Dorsey and Reid wanted to find a winning quarterback. Not only that, but Reid wanted a quarterback who can lead his team to victory, especially in the face of adversity. In 2011, Alex Smith led his team to a 13-3 record. In the post season, he proved it wasn’t a fluke by winning the divisional round game against the New Orleans Saints in true clutch fashion. He didn’t hand the ball off to running back, Frank Gore and hope for the best. He didn’t rely on someone else to win the game. He went out, took charge of his team and won it.

In case you don’t remember, it went like this:

The 49ers received the ball with 1:37 on the clock and down by three points. Alex Smith snapped his chinstrap, bit down on his mouth-guard and led his team on an 85 yard drive that was capped off with Smith hitting tight end Vernon Davis in the end-zone for a touchdown with :09 seconds left on the clock. On that drive, Smith threw seven passes (one attempt was a spike to stop the clock) and completed five of them, including the 14 yard strike to Davis to win the game.

During that game – hell, during that season — Alex Smith never said quit and never said die. He led his team. He was clutch when he needed to be clutch. That’s the kind of quarterback I want on this team. It’s a trait that’s been missing from around here for a long time. It’s a trait Geno Smith has never shown.

Reid and Dorsey are on the clock, and I’m not talking about the one at the draft. The drought since a playoff win has now hit 20 seasons. The Chiefs’ fans want to win, the Hunt family wants to win, the players who are here want to win and Alex Smith absolutely gives them the best chance to do that. I’m convinced of it. The only question is, are you? Let me know what you think.

Until next time, Addicts!

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  • Aaron Martin

    This is the best artical I have read yet on the great Smith debate. I agree 100% and hope everyone else see’s the facts too. Awesome writing Jason!! We will be a contender very soon with Alex.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Can’t argue with what Alex has done the last two seasons. If Reid can get him to play the same way here as he did in San Fran, we should be able to win some games. If Reid can get the KC defense to play like the 49ers, we can win it all. Easier said than done, of course.

      • Suzi Conger

        Well said Patrick

    • Suzi Conger

      In reality there is no ‘Smith debate’…. Reid said it all, ” A Smith is our starter’…Reid has been following AS for years; he knows that AS endured 7 years of a substandard organization,,,,,,gotta compare Apples w/ Apples an Oranges w/ Oranges… compare A Smith college records w/ G Smith college records…..then put GS on an nfl team for 7 years of chaos; poor management; poor coaching staff (( SF during AS’s first SF 7 years ));;; ’12 A Smith = #1 nfl ranked QB for accuracy/completion %…. #3 nfl ranked QB…. inducted nfl Hall of Records accuracy/completion %……”Offensive Player of the Week”, rated 154,,,,, nominee for ProBowl QB and MVP (( at time of AS’s concussion ))

      As an X-SF supporter and now a KCC supporter… I say GO CHIEFS!!

  • berttheclock

    Excellent article, Jason. Thanks for going back and checking out the 2004 UofU season for comparisons.
    One point about the comments by Nawrocki. Some have criticized him by pointing out he wrote similar thoughts about Cam Newton and those posters will claim Newton has been a success, so, Nawrocki was wrong. What they miss is Nawrocki never knocked the physical talent of Newton. He questioned his attitude and lack of leadership. Newton has had success with the Panthers, but, the Carolina papers are replete in articles about, quess what, his lack of leadership in games, especially, in the 4th quarter of play when Carolina is trailing.
    What can be questioned is the comment Nawrocki made about GS’s lack of study. That has been disputed by his former QB coach, Jake Spavati, who is going to A&M to work with Manziel. Spavati, also, worked wih Weedon at Oklahoma State
    You are correct about the worth of both Austin and Bailey in that Air Raid system of Holgerson’s. Lots of catch and run. But, one legitimate criticism was made of the long ball, last year, at UWV. Prisco has written he noticed when GS tried to throw long to an open receiver, he didn’t set up with his feet but tried to use only his arm to throw touch passes. It was as though he was afraid to really commit to the pass. Against far better d-backs in the NFL, this could back fire as they are not made up of KU, James Madison, Baylor types.

  • berttheclock

    Paris Warren broke his leg at the end of preseason and he never fully recovered his speed. But, in checking out that Urban Meyer ’04 UofU team with Mike Sanford having his best moments as a coach being their OC, I noticed a slight Chiefs connection. It was the backup receiver to Savoy, Derek Richard. He ended up being cut by the Jags so they could keep the All Mighty former Chiefs draft choice, Craphonso Thorpe. Now, Jason, out Wiki that!

  • http://profiles.google.com/johnbenjaminmoore John Moore

    Establishing a lead early on in a game leads to deflated passing stats, and even possibly deflated rushing stats if the coach uses the entire play clock (as he probably should). If you truly care about winning, you look at efficiency stats, not counting stats. They are much more highly correlated to wins than total yards or total TDs. In efficiency, Smith is currently about the 5th or 6th best QB in the league right now (4th in Passer Rating, 7th in Total QBR).

    I predict that the Chiefs go to the playoffs each of the next three years and that they win the division by the third year, and that after year three, after Alex has won 30 regular season games and 4 playoff games as a Chief, there will still be an outspoken section of Chief’s fans who will be calling Alex Smith the weakest link on the team, and calling for them to draft someone new, because he never matched McNabb’s or Vick’s best seasons in terms of total passing yards.

    • berttheclock

      Yes, he was 7th in QBR (Kaepernick was 3rd). Funny thing is Joe Flacco was 25th, so, perhaps, the bank where his new contract money is deposited may discount his interest by 1/25th, eh?

      • http://profiles.google.com/johnbenjaminmoore John Moore

        Flacco’s Passer Rating was 12th. 12th and 25th resulted in a 10 and 6 record, tied for 9th to 13th place in the league.

        Flacco’s postseason Passer Rating was 1st. His postseason QBR was 3rd, which obviously resulted in the Superbowl win.

        Passer Rating is the best measure of a QB. QBR is the next best rating. I defy anyone to find me a statistic that more accurately correlates with winning than these two measures.

        • berttheclock

          Excellent points, but, ever notice how well he played in the playoffs after McKinnie decided to play LT the way he once played in the past. That pickup by Newsome really paid for itself. However, look at one other thing which made the Ravens far different than before. With Torrey Smith coming of age, the excellent pickup of the veteran Boldin and the great running and pass catching out of the backfield by Rice, it gave Flacco far better weapons. Flacco had the tools, he just needed the right group of supporting players.

        • Derek

          would much rather have flacco over alex lol that’s a no-contest. He is undeniably the most-impressive post-season QB period and a better arm than Brady. However it seems he always starts a season unimpressive and inconsistent…still if our D was as good as the old days I’d be thrilled to have Mr Reliable post-season who still has the arm strength and ability to lead a team to a win something alex hasn’t been able to do but a small handful of times in his entire career. It’s going to be interesting to see how joe does this season now that his “dream team” no longer is together. If they make it to the AFC championship again I’ll buy his damn jersey lol

          • Jason Seibel

            The Ravens won’t even make the playoffs this year.

          • Derek

            ummm john harbough is a very smart coach so I think they’ll easily be as much competition in the AFC as we are and you seem pretty sold that alex smith will be the man to win at KC and flacco has better numbers so I’m going to disagree with you. I think if KC can make it then baltimore definitely can

  • berttheclock

    One thing Alex Smith might bring from that ’04 season is the hook and ladder for a TD play he used against Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl.

    • http://profiles.google.com/johnbenjaminmoore John Moore

      That hook and ladder play was awesome! A big middle finger to their critics. Even better when they used it on Alabama in the Sugar Bowl beat down of the Crimson Tide.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      I want to see more hook and ladder plays! It is always so awesome when it works.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Ahhh…brings back memories of the 1981 AFC Championship Game…Kellen Winslow scores!

  • chri herring

    Boy i tell u what some people or fans are completely blind. Geno Smith WILL NOT be a good qb in the NFL. People hype him up like he’s the best thing walking. So was Vince Young, Vick, Pat White, the list is endless and the fan base will be grateful they don’t have him on there team when he has no production as a NFL qb. Look people, u can’t deny the fact that no African American qb has had the success that so many thought he would. That’s in NO WAY a racist remark and that train of thought is not in my character. But as i said, facts are facts and should not be overlooked cause he had a successful college career. Alex is a proven winner and a true team leader and will soon win ALL the fan base over.

    • http://profiles.google.com/johnbenjaminmoore John Moore

      Are you effing kidding me??

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      When you have to say “that’s not a recast remark” before you are even done typing the comment, it’s a racist remark. Even you knew better.

      • Canad-Ian

        It’s not racist guys. He said “African American.”

    • t_tyrance

      No Alex has proven he is nothing more then a System QB yu can’t tell me yu would have wanted him in kc before two yrs again he got good when Jim Hardbaugh got there period. And if he was sooooo go do yu think he would be in kc nw or even had lose his job last yr no an that would have never happen to any of the elite qbs in the League no matter hw good the back up played. Smith will do well in kc because of one guy Andy Reid! An as for your Statement that African American haven’t had the success that so many thought he would. I guess yu just been under a rock cause last time I checked cam newton, rg3, Russell Wilson, and Colin kaepernick were all black and have been success and I Guarantee you would take any of them over Alex smith. I have nothing against him he just isn’t all that good of a QB. But I hope he does well cause he is a chiefs nw

      • berttheclock

        er, one problem with that. Two years ago, Andy Reid tried to get him to sign with the Eagles. AS turned down the offer because Harbaugh was coming in as the new HC.

        • t_tyrance

          That’s probably cause he would have been a back up and not the starter I’m just Spitball I could be wrong

        • Derek

          he didn’t turn it down…NOONE wanted him back then…he was going to be cut but it would’ve cost the 49ers too much and at least they’d have a good back-up. it’s why I didn’t want to cut cassel…though it did seem like he may have overstayed the welcome in KC but if he can work with alex smith why then couldn’t he fix cassel…are the two really that different–when comparing pro-tape only?

          • berttheclock

            Are you really serious? He did turn down the offer by Reid and he resigned with the Niners as their starting QB. That was in 2011.

          • Derek

            well then I stand corrected on that..read it on bleacher report like a year ago…but nowadays I’m beginning to think that noone should ever take that site seriously lol

          • Calchiefsfan

            Yes, Smith and Cassell are really that different. Smith actually goes through his progressions, finds the open man and can even hit him with the ball. Something that Cassel struggled greatly with.

          • micah stephenson

            Wat progression? after Bowe and lil ol Dexter thats it. I can understand if Cassel didnt bother to see if T.Copper some how got open.

          • Calchiefsfan

            Yup and he hardly ever saw Dex when he was open. Then there was Moeaki. After going back and watching replays of the Chiefs as well as the 49ers there’s just no comparison between Cassel and Smith. And you know I wanted Cassel to succeed. Bad coaching was a big part of Cassel’s troubles, Daboll was terrible. When Weiss was his OC Cassell played ok. After watching the tape though, I think Smith is better.

          • micah stephenson

            Smith is better. But how much better? A lil bit or a whole lot better? We need a whole lot better than Cassel.

          • Jim Harper

            Yes, night and day different.

    • berttheclock

      Thank you for helping to erase the memory of Doug Williams smashing the John Elway led team in the SB and winning the MVP for doing so well. In addition, thanks for, also, erasing the memory of Randall Cunningham and Donavan McNabb for some of their great work, as well, I really don’t want to take you away from “Some of my best friends are” buddies of yours.

    • Derek

      You sir…are a PIECE OF SHIT! now get the fuck out you racist prick….

    • http://www.facebook.com/vaughn.morris.39 Vaughn Morris

      What about Doug Williams, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Steve Mcnair, Donavan Mcnabb, Dante Culpepper, Kordell Stewart, They have all been successfull at some point. Russel wilson is black and lighting it up…Kaepernick is half black and lighting it up.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Race and ethnicity have never been accurate predictors of performance or behavior, but good luck trying to convince folks like you of that. Evaluate the individual, please, and forget the superfluous stuff. Furthermore, the performance levels and achievements of other ‘African American’ QB’s has NOTHING to do, one way or another, with Geno’s prospects. He’s a man just like the rest of us and he stands on his OWN two feet, thank you…

  • mg2098

    Im a big fan of the Chiefs taking Geno #1 overall. I think both QB’s could have a future in KC. Alex is a very efficient game manager that will help you win games by making good reads, and not turning the ball over. What Alex Smith wont do is if your teams down by two td’s in the 4th quarter rally to bring you back. Basically both sides of the ball have to play error free football with Alex Smith at the helm to insure your chances of winning. When the Niners got behind with Alex Smith it was pretty much game over.

    In this day and age you draft a guy with all the physical tools Geno Smith has and have a guy like Alex Smith teach the him what it takes to be a pro. I think the price you pay to have that is not measurable. The Broncos paid Manning huge bucks (not draft picks) then drafted a strong armed athletic QB in Brock Osweiler. The Broncos are now set at the QB position for years to come. When I look at taking Geno #1 I’m looking at the same scenario for the Chiefs. Right now if A. Smith goes down with an injury or concussion that he been prone to the Chiefs have only Chase Dainel to call upon, and I dont know about you but that doesn’t sound very appealing to me. I know the history on Dainel which tells me he is strictly in this league to be a back up. Another question is what if Alex Smith fails to catch on to Reids offense? I mean we only have a year and a half of efficient play from Alex Smith. His previous five years in the NFL where abysmal to say the least. So do you really want to put all your eggs in the Alex Smith basket. Im not sold.

    If Im the Chiefs, and I feel Geno Smith is a top 5 selection I dont let the trade for Alex Smith stop me from drafting him. Although QB’s taken in the first round are expected to start doesn’t necessarily mean they have too. Drafting Geno Smith much like the Broncos did with Brock would sure up the QB position for year to come. A postion of weakness for the Chiefs ever since we let Green go to Miami because of concussions.

    • http://twitter.com/tbrad42 t brad

      So the 49ers single season comeback record he broke with 6 comeback victories in 2011 don’t count?

      • mg2098

        Reviewed the 2011 49ers season and in no game did Alex Smith bring his team back from a deficit greater than 7 pts. My previous post said if he gets down multiple scores he’s not the guy you want trying to bring you back. Please review this and tell me what games he broke the record of 6 comebacks.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Francisco_49ers_season

        • http://twitter.com/tbrad42 t brad

          That’s the team records look at individual records of 49er records smiths wiki page

          • mg2098

            I wasn’t looking at the team records. Scroll down and look at all the games and the quarter break downs from 2011. Im saying I dont see a single game where the Niners were behind by more than a TD and won the game.

        • berttheclock

          First, take a deep breath. Secondly, be sure to clean your glasses, if you wear any, or just put some vizine into your eyes. Then, peruse the box score of the October 2, 2011 game between the Niners and the Eagles. In the 3rd quarter, Philly led 23-3. I believe I learned or, either, heard tell, that is a difference of 20 points, meaning the Niners were 20 points behind. The Alex Smith led Niners won the game 24-23. BTW, the HC for the Eagles was Andy Reid, who was so impressed he tried to sign Smith after the season. Oh, and one more BTW. Smith’s 2nd half rating, where he threw 2 TDs (Gore had a 7 yard TD run), was 154.3.

          • mg2098

            Against the Lions in 2011 they were also 10 down after the first quarter. I just didn’t really care to look into it all that much. I get that Alex Smith has had his moments, but his overall body of work is nothing to hang you hat on. So you find 3-4 games out of a 7 year span that A. Smith has rallied the troops beyond 7 pts. I still would feel much better about the Chiefs roster if they had a QB with Geno Smiths skill set. We will find out about A. Smith in due time. I appreciate the conversation. Thats why I get on AA.

    • Jason Seibel

      A: You need to rewatch some tape from the 49ers 2011 season. Start with the playoff game I referenced in my article.

      B: You need to rewatch the Colt’s entire 2011 season where the QB’s who had supposedly been learning under Peyton Manning made Matt Cassel look like Joe Montana. Your logic is slightly flawed on this.

      • mg2098

        A: I dont need to watch a tape of one game. Ive watched plenty of Alex Smith over the years to know what kind of QB he is. He is not going to carry an offense. The pieces around carried him. One playoff game will not change that. That game you reference to is more about Vernon Davis dominating than it was bout A. Smith. Vernon Davis was to much for the Saints that day.

        B. Kerry Colins was not on the roster when P. Manning was there. Curtis Painter was a 6th rd pick never to be projected as a franchise QB. Comparing Painter to Geno Smith is asinine. I think a better observation would be Arron Rogers watching the late great Brett Farve for 3 seasons.

        • Jason Seibel

          You made the comparison to Manning. Not me. It’s funny how the Alex

          • Jason Seibel

            haters always say it was the team but look past Geno’s supporting cast

          • mg2098

            Im not an Alex Smith hater. I actually like Alex Smith. Might even buy the jersey. My hope is that Smith’s first 5 years of his career were terrible due to the lack of talent on the offensive. The lack of great stats these last two years were due to Harbaugh not having enough faith to allow him to throw the ball more. The Niners are a run first team I understand that. Reid is a throw first coach. I hope we see a transition with Smith just like Drew Brees had with the Saints. BUT I,m not willing to put my teams future on that. At least not yet. So why not have a back up plan at the games most important position.

            As far as Geno’s cast. Austin is a stud no doubt. Bailey and Geno have had chemistry ever since high school. No matter how you look at it those three players were great and they all complimented each other hence the most potent offense in the NCAA.

          • Derek

            notice how noone agrees with you Siebel….what supporting cast?! no d, no o-line, no run-game… two great recievers sure but uh last I checked barkley had two incredible receivers and so did bray and neither of them are even close to 1st round talents and I doubt bray who hed two of the best receivers in the country in patterson and hunter is even NFL talent at all and probably won’t be drafted til the 4th round scott, manuel, and jones will all go in the 3rd before he does so how can you even use that comment as a rebutal? The fact is all Qb’s have to have at least one good receiver and Bailey wasn’t incredibly fast or talented but he was reliable, made some nice open-field plays and Geno helped him by putting the ball rigth where it needed to be. Yet, his number 1 T-awesome is a freak of nature lol and my favorite QB in the draft personally but Geno helped his stock just as much as Taevon helped Geno’s so your point is moot.

          • Jason Seibel

            The guys who get paid millions a year to know this stuff agree with me so I guess I’m doing something right.

          • KCPauly

            and who might they be?

          • Jason Seibel

            Andy Reid and John Dorsey are a couple who come to mind.

        • Chris Tarrants

          Favre isn’t late lol pretty sure he is still alive but I agree with you 100%

          • mg2098

            Lol I know. The dude was sending txt of his d**k to other women while his wife sat a home taking care of his kids, so he’s kinda dead to me now. The man could play some football though.

  • ladner morse

    Hey Jason, nice piece.

    Citing YAC of Geno’s receivers as the reason his total yardage was inflated is a catch-22. While Geno has missed some wide open receivers before… and who hasn’t… when he connects with his receivers he’s usually putting the ball in the “sweet spot” to allow that receiver to run after catching his pass. IOW… YAC is not all about how good the receivers are. Geno put the ball in the right place to make that happen. Just ask Dexter McCluster if Matt Cassel had that ability. I hope you can remember the Chiefs last playoff game at the end of 2010 when Cassel connected with Dex and Dex got pasted to the turf. All Cassel’s fault. I’ve watched a ton of Geno’s games and tape and I haven’t seen ever do that because Geno knows how to lead his receivers away from the defender.

    • berttheclock

      One other thing hurt Dexter. The Muir Trail project never was able to design a proper screen pass. Remember the one where the Pro Bowl safety for the Bolts jumped the play because it was so poorly designed and intercepted the intended pass for Dexter, which, effectively, ended the game? Another big problem was his High Ankle Sprain which limited the amount of time Charlie Weis had to work into becoming his Welker type slot receiver. In addition, without Baldwin being able to get open, defenses could key on both Dexter and Bowe.

    • berttheclock

      Of course, having Steadman Bailey being your favorite wide out in high school and coming with you to UWA after graduating from Miramar did really help with timing. Whomever drafts GS should find a way to pickup Bailey, as well.

      • Derek

        I’ve been claiming that KC does exactly this Geno at 1 and Bailey with our 3rd…unless kiko alonso at ILB is still available as he would really fill the void in our LB-corps.

    • Jason Seibel

      You make a valid point. One I won’t argue. But my point was that strictly using Geno’s stats to establish his superiority over Alex is misleading because of the excessive YAC by his receivers.

      • micah stephenson

        And wats the excuse for his low int number?

        • Jason Seibel

          Smith’s was lower.

    • Darkwolf1414

      Exactly, Ladner! Perfect examples. I have watched A LOT of Geno’s full game tape and I like what I have seen. He’s not perfect but who is?

    • Jim Harper

      I question your asseration “he’s usually putting the ball in the “sweet spot” for his receivers. The one thing that got me off the Geno train was his inconsistancy hitting wide open receivers. And that is not heresay, but the result of watching a ton of his game tape. I am also troubled by the fact that when things are going poorly he tends to pout on the sideline. On the Gruden show he commented about that by saying he is a good leader, but he leads by example. For sure, that has it’s place, but a true leader knows when to get on someone’s case when they miss an assignment or drop a lot of balls. All the great ones lead both ways. I have witnessed on multiple occasions how Manning, Brady, Brees, or even Big Ben chew a guy out

  • Derek

    Not a terrible article until you mentioned Nawrocki! LOL all credibility goes out the window after that. Yeah absolutely idiotic to even bring that up with a Pro-geno publication that is arrowheadaddict/pride….we all want Geno so why write something negative. Also have you not noticed that all that inflated stats were BECAUSE Eugene has so much touch and control on his pass? If you lead ANY receiver–assuming they dont’ have butter fingers–they should be able to get tons of yardage after the catch. All it takes is one step on the defender but a lot of QBs will miss that half-step open player for the TD but Geno will not be that kinda QB. He’s going to prove everyone wrong especially when his work-ethic has named him “a coachs’ dream come true” by actual coaches….enough debate by the scouts who have been wrong many a times before….prime example Rolando Mcclain at number 8 to the raiders was praised by scouts saying he was a safe, good pick and he busted so hard that it’s only been 2 seasons and he’s already been sent home…jamarcus russel lasted longer lol.

    • Jason Seibel

      Wait…who said AA was pro Geno?

      • micah stephenson

        We voted. Lol

    • Jason Seibel

      I find it funny that you think it “wasn’t terrible” and because I mentioned a quote by someone who talked bad about Geno my credibility is gone. Of course the guy’s coaches are going to say they loved him. The proof will be in the play this year. Just glad (hope) he’s not going to playing for the Chiefs. We’ve got a proven winner on the field this year.

      • Darkwolf1414

        Nolan Nawrocki is a hack. He said terrible things about Cam Newton, too. All Cam did was go out and break records his rookie season. Basically, Nawrocki has a separate set of criteria for White QBs and Black QBs. I generally hate it when people call things racist. I’m not Black but I’m going to say from Nawrocki’s vast discrepancies when scouting White vs Black QBs makes him an ignorant fool, if not a racist. There is no room for a scout who still thinks that Blacks can’t play QB! If he’s so spot on then why is he the ONLY scout saying such outlandish things?

        Alex Smith has only proven that he can’t finish a season. I live near SF and no one here thinks he’s proven jack shit. The 49er fans are glad to get rid of him and have been wanting to do so for at least 4 years now. Seems to me the person who thinks Alex Smith is going to be the QB to pull us out of the funk is a bigger homer than the one who wants to draft Geno. Alex is our QB right now and I will root for him because he is the Chiefs’ QB. I hope he doesn’t get injured. However, when he misses his annual 6 games, we’re going to be wishing we did more at the QB position. I hope the 49er fans and I are wrong. Looking at history doesn’t make it likely, though.

        Also, you and all of the other Geno Smith detractors seem to like to leave out that WV’s defense couldn’t stop a high school offense. Had his defense helped him out AT ALL Geno Smith would have won a lot more games. Truly being confused by more complex defenses in 2012 translates to less than Geno’s 71.2% completion rating and more than 6 INTs. In short. . .Your (and Nawrocki’s) arguments don’t jive.

        I’m not saying that Geno is better than Alex. I’m saying he has a higher ceiling. Could he fail? Sure but by all accounts he’s a hard worker and it shows in his numbers.

        • Jason Seibel

          The thing is, everything Nawrocki said about Newron is true. He has no leadership style. Same with Geno. Mike Mayock said essentially the same thing just less harsh.

          • Derek

            noone has said he has no leadership only nawrocki and mayock all he did was stick up for the guy but never acutally said geno has bad leadership qualities….he beat around the bush so he wouldn’t have have to call out the professional but he never talked smack about the kid he jsut said Geno is not as good as luck or RG and is a project…as chiefs fans and fans of Geno we all already know and understand this but that shouldn’t take away from his value. When he’s crushing records in 2-3 years i will come back to this post and gloat all I want Mr Seibel. You really haven’t any true argument why YOU think he won’t be great. You’ve just been quoting what other ppl have said who by the way are infallible. Again I could be way off-base in all of this but I believe in the kid so I’m going to stick with him and if in two years he hasn’t proven himself then I can shut up about all this. personally I was a huge fan of mike glennon and tyler wilson before I started to follow Geno. All that said, I really like matt scott too but all of them are not NFL ready projects so why not take the best of your choices when you have teh chance too? You can’t tell me that you won’t be one of the thousands whining after Geno does prove you wrong and take noname jacksonville to the wild-card in two years or less? Then all teh experts will talk about how good he is and that they were right in their assessment of him but never mention how they also didnt’ eblieve in him. People said the same things about drew brees when he went to teh chargers and he’s probably the 3rd best QB in the league in the now with the pathetic saints lol…..

      • Jim Harper

        Right on Jason!

      • Derek

        yeah it is the quote that you chose. Sure i might be team Geno but it does’t mean I’ll take away your credibility because you said something I disagreed with but the choice of quote you used has been proven false already so yes I will call you out on that. Had it been anyone other than a proven D-bag that said it then I wouldn’t claim anything less of you and it would likely hold some value but you quoted a hack that the entire industry has come out and blatantly said was wrong of him to say such things. Seditious Libal is illegal and he’s just lucky that in “show-biz” the lessers are expected to cut-down someone better. So there ya go find a better source and i won’t be be quick to judge but dont’ make me sound like a sheep because I have faith in the kid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vaughn.morris.39 Vaughn Morris

    The Chiefs will win with Alex Smith. Just having a decent QB will win us games. We had no QB last year NONE. No passing attack and JC still ran for 1500 yards. Now
    with a decent passing attack JC is gonna run crazy and it will open up the passing attack for Smith. We are not asking Smith to have crazy stats as long as he wins. I would be satisfied with Alex Have 15 TD and 5 picks but 10 wins, That works.

    • micah stephenson

      10 wins with A.Smith??? Wen you see sombody with some credabilty predict the Chiefs at 10 wins please post a link.

      • Jason Seibel

        Nobody is posting any kind of predictions yet. The teams haven’t even drafted yet. I think season predictions will wait until at least May.

  • Tom Sparks

    Jason…. I commend you on a great article and have been a big Alex Smith supporter, ever since our GREAT new GM/HC, pulled the strings to snag him from the 49er’s!
    There are way too many Chiefs Fans being disillusioned by college stats and not NFL experience and leadership! I have been defending him WAY too much. Alex Smith brings proven NFL grit, leadership, locker room prescense, and intestinal fortitude to our team!
    This lack of leadership and football savvy have been mentioned by more than one “experienced” NFL Player Personnel Evauator. Besides our new dynamic duo of Dorsey/Reid are 2 of the best at this talent for finding great NFL talent!
    Your are also correct in the fact that Big Stat, Big Arm College QB’s do not translate into Franchise QB’s! It’s a FACT!
    I also totally agree that Clark Hunt is getting IT, and is commited to putting a winning team together NOW! I would think that the Chiefs Kingdom would be ecstatic of the recent changes at One Arrowhead Drive! After the last few years of left handed promises, it finally looks like we are headed in the right direction and I could not be more optomistic, since Lamar brought in Carl Peterson/Marty Schottenheimer. Even though Marty never got us to the promised land, we had some pretty formidable teams when Marty was coaching, and, gee, we never had a QB to groom as the Franchise QB of the future. We got screwed out of a Super Bowl run the year we had #1 AFC seed and home field in the playoffs! I’ll never forget the Bronco’s coming in and cheating right off the bat, by getting caught with WD-40 sprayed all over the OL uniforms of the Jackasses!
    They were made to go to the sidelines and “wipe” it off, when the whole dn line should have been ejected! And then Tony G. Got screwed out of a legitimate TD, by the same bafoon Ref’s, calling him out of bounds on a pretty bad call that wiped out a TD! Too bad Instant Replay wasn’t made official yet, or we probably would have won that game. I still think Marty made the mistake of switching from the HOT QB in Rich Gannon and letting Grbac start, after he had missed 6 games with a broken collar bone! Bad call…….
    I hope the attitude of a lot of fans change, once they realize how fortunate we have been this offseason. I’d hate to think there are that’s many KC Chiefs fans emulating Faider Behavior.
    Oh well, that’s my 2 cents….

    • Jim Harper

      And a well spent 2 cents it was! I have yet to hear any of the NFL analysts say Geno is a top pick. Could they all be wrong and the local Geno lovers are the only ones right? Seems unlikely. Alex brings stability, knowledge, and backbone to a team that has not seen that since Trent Green. Alex has overcome adversity like no other QB in recent memory, and the cool part is he won’t turn 29 until May 7th. He is still young enough to lead this team for many years. I believe that Reid and Dorsey are getting everything right and trust their football knowledge way more than my own. I think Geno has promise but he is a project and not NFL ready like Luck or RG3.

      • micah stephenson

        This is a yr they dont have ANYBODY as the top pick. They cant even decide who is the better OT Joke-Ol or Fisher. There is the top ten players. Then 20-30 & so on.

        • Derek

          exactly so if we’re gonna be a reach either way and can’t trade out….then Geno makes the most sense because he is the best gamble with teh biggest pay-off

      • Derek

        everyone claims he’s a top 5 that’ll fall to possibly 8 at the lowest…so is picked in the top-10 isn’t considered top talent? Many have to agree with me and he’s put together more-impressive numbers than RG3 and smoked baylor Rg’s team….so yeah…anyway there is one thing about trent green to consider when he first came to KC he led the NFL in interceptions…then a year later improved to the least and had a 13-3 season…so is it possible that alex smith like trent green had to get the rookie evil out but it took him so damn long like green? If so then I can be excited for the stability and leadership but not the play-style or talent-level. we need an “it” factor again and preferably at QB like teams that have won post-season games have. The last time we had a kid with “it” was Dante Hall….

  • Marcus J. Walker

    Geno Smith is gonna tear it up in year 2013. All us (Chiefs fans) will be very upset !!!

    • Derek

      actualy i won’t be upset I’ll be glad I am a fan of him. I really want him to win a play-off game before the chiefs do then all these naysayers like bert and seibel can eat it for all the times they called me out on being a geno-typer

      • Jason Seibel

        And what happens when we’re all right? Do you join “Team Alex?”

        • Derek

          nope lol I’ll be happy for you guys but I’d still be more excited to watch trick shot than smith, A. All that said, if you guys are right and get th chiefs aren’t 1 and done–granted an improvement–I still won’t be happy. It has to be a consistency…for me to care any more about this shit team they have to appear in at least 3 post seasons out of the next 4 years…that shoudl’t be too much to ask with how you guys are all talking and peyton is gone in 2 seasons….unless osweiller becomes the next jake plumber lol an we still have mediocre alex leading th charge or worst daniels who was undrafted an so-so in college, granted mizzou is just so-so period lol. Anyway, if I’m wrong I’ll be happy for you and the fans but I’m not consideing myself a fan of this team anymore. I’ll follow and root for them but the days of bleeding red and gold are done for me. 9-7 maybe make the wild-card in the next 2 seasons AT BEST for KC. The team is cursed and I’m not going to fight the system anymore as it just doesn’t seem to work. That said, I’ll gladly follow Geno and hope for him the best him and dion jordan would be a cool cat to follow as well. But who in their right mind buys a tackle’s jersey??? my point exactly. joeckle is a waste of a pick–if you’re going to take a tackle at least take johnson, long, or fisher who all have more upside and if i’m not mistaken Long is a 3rd round prospect and the son of Howie??? How do you say no to that lol–noone is excited for this draft anymore and the fans are all screaming about it. If Hunt doesn’t listen to the fans granted he’s never been one too, prior of course to recent protests and firing of crennel and pioli which I’m all for pioli but uhh last i checked romeo was a fantastic d-coordinator so I disagree with kicking him to the curb entirely perhaps just demoted back to what he does best would’ve been the smart thing….anyway i’m done ranting but the fans are angry with the exception of like 4 ppl on this site alone lol and if they pick a tackle the outcry will cause a lot of us to go home permanently. Fisher is even the better prospect here….I wish we could trade down and make something for it but wer’re going to get a just amount so the only moves that make sense ARE GENO OR DION as they will have the most impact on this team in the next 2-3 years after JC leaves next season of course for greene pastures and I won’t blame him….face it this team blew the deal with bringing peyton here and now they’re blowing the deal with geno…..if anything Dion Jordan, though I believe he doesn’t fit–would have the most impact on this team as a rookie and aside from smith might be the best talent in the draft so if we pick him I would be happy. I’m a Geno-typer all the way and nothing is going to change that Mr. Seibel. Now the big question is, if they blow it on the tackle we go 8-8 and Geno wins a play-off game as a wild-card at cleveland, jacksonville, or arizona, then what happens, sir?????

          • dominicscarlatti

            Rant over – thank heavens!

      • Marcus J. Walker

        Glad to see your a realistic scouter. Who cares if Geno ran the West Coast dump & run style offense(which is Andy Reid’s bread & butter). The fact is, he has put up better numbers than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Donavan McNabb & etc.. Geno is the truth and I hope Andy & John feels the same way..

        • Derek

          how nice someone actually read my post and wants to respond who isn’t calling me out lol. I guess we’ll just see who was right. Regardless he won’t be at KC though. Jacksonville now sounds liek the best bet as Im still certian the bills take nassib. The eagles would be best to take their tackle now and manuel later as a project behind Dixon sice vick is probably gone in 3 more years tops. Then the cards who I really thought would be the first ones for geno chose palmer so I’m not too sure about that. Oakland still has a good chance to take smith as well but have too many other more pressing matters at this point on their roster. Dallas now has orton and I see them taking tyler wilson down the line as well…I think the only other chief-elligible QB we could take would be Matt Scott in the 5th, zac dysert in the 4th or even rodgers in the 7th…some ppl like tyler bray and landry jones but I personally no to both. So if Geno doen’t go to jacksonville…where does he end up; any thoughts?

          • Marcus J. Walker

            NY Jets is definitely a good candidate for Geno..

          • Derek

            really though? they already have like 5 Qbs lol…that is the most laughable shit-show ever…even the crap at KC looks sane compared to that asinine place.

  • Steven Swaggerty

    Alex Smith is Matt Cassel. Look at their Career Statistics. Virtually the same. Except for one thing. Cassels best year is actually better than Smith. I’m sorry. I just can’t get excited about having another SF reject QB.

    • berttheclock

      NO! The stats for Matt Cassel began to decline after 2011. The stats for Alex Smith improved each year. That is the major problem with only looking at the sum total of career stats. It does not tell the story of ebb and flow Example for college basketball is the one year career stat for Mitch McGary of Michigan. He was a freshman, who played limited minutes for most of the season, so his stats were low However, given a chance to start near the end of the season, he exploded. Huge difference between his total stats for the year and his stats for the last six games. His March Madness stats dwarf his seasonal stats.

      • Guest

        we should leave michigan outta this…syracuse is going to put ona clinic tonight unless stauskas shoots 5/5 from beyond the arc…not going to happen…KU game was a fluke

        • Guest

          EDIT: the first half was not good but ti’s not over yet: i think sryacuse will just do what louisville did and overcome the deficit by wearing them down and slowly close that lead with turnovers in the last quarter

      • micah stephenson

        Go back 4 yrs and imagine Cassel on the 49s and think about how he might have played. No go back 4 yrs and imagine A.Smith on the Chiefs. I bet Cassel wud hav turned out to b like Smith and Smith turned out to b like Cassel.

        • dominicscarlatti

          Reminder – you have absolutely ZERO credibility as the former head of the Matt Cassel fan club.

  • berttheclock

    As discussed below, on October 2, 2011, the Andy Reid led Eagles were up 23-3 against the Niners. Alex Smith was the QB for the Niners. In that 2nd half, AS threw two TD passes and handed to Gore for a 7 yard TD run. The Niners won the game 24-23, which, I understand from someone, means Alex Smith led a 20 point come from behind win. Twentyone out of 33, 2 TDs, 0 INTs and a 2nd half rating of 154.3. Yes, Alex Smith can and has led from behind and he beat Andy Reid while doing so. Perhaps, that is the reason, AR wanted to signe him after the 2011 season and traded for him in 2013. He saw the talent directly in front of his own two eyes and did not have to read any so-called “Career Statistics”, which often can be very misleading

  • Scott Mahurin

    B. S. Alex smith has a noodle arm. He is the dump off king of this comparison. Nawrocki is an official bigot…not a respected analyst. You lost me after quoting him. There’s been plenty analysis refuting his observations. Gruden and Mayock would like to say hello. Then there’s a ton of breakdown and spreadsheets done over at arrowhead pride debunking his naysayers. Enjoy your delusions, but pray the Raiders don’t pick Geno.

    • Jason Seibel

      Mayock said the sane thing, just less harsh and Gruden gets paid to make rookie QB’s look good.

      • Jason Seibel

        *same

    • micah stephenson

      If we dont get GENO im hoping the raiders do get him. And I hope twice a yr, he beats the chiefs soooo bad that he beats the fear out drafting a 1st rd QB out of them. If we pass up GENO I want him to make the Chiefs regret it hard!

      • Derek

        I too would love to see it! then at least maybe denver can have some competition in the west…KC is mediocre at best or the worst team in the league at it’s worst…that’s just how it is and will always be….if they go anything less than 9-7 this season I will say, “I TOLD YOU SO” to the alex smith fans and then delete my profile and leave this community behind because I can’t handle being a fan of the joke of the NFL after 13 years without a play-off win, let alone a superbowl…am i asking for that much really, KC? why do you have to suck at everything…then there’s kansas basketball which is a letdown every year as well

      • Jason Seibel

        The Raiders are paying Flynn’s overinflated contract. They’re not drafting Geno.

      • oldchiefsfan

        I could never hope the Raiders win because I have hated them since Ben Davidson speared Len Dawson. I mean I HATE the Raiders….HATE with HATE icing. I’m a Geno backer but I can’t wish anything good for the Raiders.

        • micah stephenson

          I hate them too. But if it takes geting beat by them to get my team wur it needs to b ill take it.

  • micah stephenson

    Nope. You know not convinced. Im beting my money on a 1 and done at the most. Im thinking we go 9-7 and lose the 1st playoff game.

    • Derek

      that is what i’ve been saying…we have too much in common on the way we think about the draft and QB’s…BUT there is a possibilty we go 10-6 and get in as a wild-card but of course still lose the first play-off game….this will not change when our offense won’t be able to score more than 24 points a game …that said…if our D steps it up we have a shot who knows…I’ll reserve my final judgement until after preason and tanney doesnt’ look like a star by then…..

      • Jason Seibel

        You two crack me up…”Team Geno” to the end… LOL!!!

        • Derek

          actually i love me some Geno but i’m less pro-geno after all the alex smith and chase daniel deals it just makes less sense unless we use him as leverage. I really want him but i’m a fanboy so that’s my opinion as for affecting the team i’m more “team anthing but a friggin tackle” lol. Really think Star or Dion could have the most impact in the NFL right now as Geno is a project–for only one year though–but everything I read aout Jordan he just doesn’t fit which is disappointing and star i like him BUT we’ve been drafting dline high for years and with no real success so of course I’m skeptical so it all comes back to take Geno because he makes the most sense in the future. Do you disagree with that statement as much as everything else I’ve said?

    • Derek

      also won and done would be nice in my book…I haven’t ever watched them win a play-off game even with the 13-3 season….so i would be very happy with that

  • Jim Harper

    Great post Jason. Well thought out and you definitely have your finger on the pulse of the team. This is exactly why Geno does not grade out higher. I think someday he has the tools to maybe even become a franchise QB, but he is not ready yet. Furthermore this shows that Andy believes he can win now. No telling how much longer we will have Jamaal, but without him our playoff chances diminish rapidly and with Alex’s youth (turns 29 in May, he could be our guy for 8 or 9 years to come.. Lastly I have said this many times, but I really believe Reid and Dorsey know what they are doing way better than we do!

    • Jason Seibel

      Thank you Jim. I’m glad you enjoyed reading it!

  • Carlos Nevarez

    To me it’s really telling that teams are seemingly opting For veterans Over this rookie class of qb’s.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Especially when you see the caliber of veteran QB’s who have moved in the last week or so.

  • KCPauly

    I have ben a KCChiefs fan for over 28yrs. it this time I have ner seen them draft a francise QB, Todd Blackledge gave them such a black eye that they crawled into a hole and have been to afraid to cawl out again, I do hope they see the daylight sometime soon, as I am kinda with Derek on it all, you see the problem with KC fans is that we have sucked so bad for so long that we look at the Peterson/Shottenheimer days as our glory days becuse we had winning seasons….winning seasons are not acceptable as being glorious for me any longer, I want a Lamar Hunt trophy followed by a lombardi torphy proudly sitting on Clarks desk, I don’t care about 10-6, 13-3, or any amount of reglar season success, I want this team to win it all in my lifetime, in 28yrs. I have seen the regular season be good only to crush me in posteason, the KC fans have become complacent to a little success as being victorious, or good, why can’t our team bring this fan base out of this rut? because when you have been kicked in head so many times, that a punch to the head is welcomed, there is something wrong with you, but that is exactly what we as Chiefs fans do”at least I didn’t get kicked again” well to me a punch to the head isn’t that much better and not acceptable, I want to be the one throwing the kicks, and punches for a change, i have stated at i would like to get Geno, I have stated that I thought and still do think we gave to much for AS,when he would probably have been cut anyway, I have also stated that if Reid is so good a QB guru then why couldn’t he have fixed Cassel?, I also think Tanney may prove to be our best QB on roster, now that being said I do wish we would try to draft our own franchise QB sometime, but whatever happens I would like to see this fan base not settle for OK any longer I don’t really care who is throwing the ball as long as they are throwing it in the Superbowl, no more WooHoo! we made the playoffs, no more Yahoo we one one playoff game, I mean I will be happy and it is a good start but let’s stop selling ourselves short and stop rooting for mediocracy…Let’s start rooting for Championships and get some and not be happy until our QB is hoisting the Lombardi Trophy…GO CHIEFS!!!!!

  • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

    Good stuff. Exactly what I’ve been screaming from the mountain tops since this Geno discussion began. Well done. You have to be careful with facts though, they don’t go well with koolaid.

    • Jason Seibel

      Thanks, Big Chief! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • ArrowFan

    #4 Our team has refused to draft a High QB for many reasons over the years, and it looks like they found another one this year.

    • Jason Seibel

      I would say it’s a pretty good reason.

  • michael carey

    good article.

  • Suzi Conger

    GREAT Article Jason; Thank you for your fact-based information. I am also an X-SF9er supporter and am now a KCC supporter due to A Smith ( and A Reid )….I am so excited for the ’13 season and have great hopes for the Chiefs to accomplish makin the PlayOffs….but, shucks…why not have fun and root for the ( paint ) ‘dark horse’ to achieve the SuperBowl game ??? GO CHIEFS!!!