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What if the Chiefs trade out of the first pick …


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With smokescreens going around the NFL leading up to the draft in April, it’s a very confusing time to be a fan. With the first overall pick, one wouldn’t think that Chiefs fans would still have no clue who the Chiefs will end up taking in the first round of the draft, but that’s exactly the predicament we find ourselves in.

While it does seem likely that if the Chiefs pick at number one overall, that Luke Joeckel will be the man. But what if the Chiefs don’t stay at number one? What if the interest that the Jacksonville Jaguars are apparently showing towards Geno Smith makes some General Manager nervous enough to trade up and grab him? What if the Chiefs can trade the number one overall pick to move down in the draft and pick up additional selections? Then it gets even more complicated.

First we have to find a trade partner. Nick Jacobs from TWC Metro Sports in Kansas City says that he has his eyes on the Cardinals, Jets, Bills and Eagles. Any of these teams could move up for either quarterback Geno Smith (who says there’s no clear number one prospect at the QB position?), Dion Jordan, or an offensive tackle.

Depending how far the Chiefs trade down will also determine what player they could take. Let’s start with the team that I think has a good chance to move up to number one: The Raiders. Trading with the Raiders at number three overall would still allow the Chiefs to get a top-flight tackle such as Eric Fisher from Central Michigan, if he doesn’t go sooner than three. Other players that the Chiefs could probably still get with the third pick but probably couldn’t get any later are Oregon’s DE/LB Dion Jordan, and Florida Defensive Tackle Shariff Floyd. And guess what, the Chiefs have been at the Pro Days or have worked out all of those players, obviously to get a closer look.

Since there is not much of a difference between the third and fourth pick, which is owned by the Eagles, I will skip ahead to the Cardinals, Bills and Jets picks, which are at number seven, eight and nine respectively. Dropping to either one of these picks could still leave the opportunities to pick up Texas A&M’s Defensive End Damontre Moore (who the Chiefs saw at his Pro Day), Oklahoma’s Left Tackle Lane Johnson (who the Chiefs saw at his Pro Day), BYU’s DE/LB Ziggy Ansah (who the Chiefs saw at his Pro Day) or Georgia DE/LB Jarvis Jones. Obviously, there are many other players that the Chiefs could be looking at if they find themselves in this spot, but I wanted to stick to ones that the Chiefs have had contact with.

Just because the Chiefs have seen these players in person, or even if they bring these players in for private workouts, it is no guarantee that the Chiefs will be looking to draft them. And just because the Chiefs haven’t taken a look at a player is no guarantee that the Chiefs won’t draft him either (although it makes it less likely). But while Luke Joeckel is observed by many to be the best player available in this year’s draft, and while new GM John Dorsey has said that he will take the best player available in the draft, would you have a problem with the Chiefs trying to trade out of the pick to select one of the players that I have mentioned above? Do you think there is a big difference in talent between Joeckel at #1 and, say, Eric Fisher at #3 or Lane Johnson at #7?

Personally, I wouldn’t mind the Chiefs trading down from the first pick. If the team can still get a top-tier prospect – and if the Chiefs select in the top ten then that wouldn’t be an issue – while picking up an additional pick on the second day of the draft, I think that would be the best case scenario for the Chiefs entering the draft. What do you think Chiefs Nation? Would you entertain offers for the first pick, or use the opportunity to select the best player available in the draft?

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  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I like a trade down if we can still get Joeckel or Fisher…. If we can’t my interest starts to wane.

    • Jason Seibel

      What about Lane Johnson from OU?

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I like him, but I don’t think Johnson is on the same level as the other two. So, the compensation would have to match what I think I am giving up. What would you want back if you were the Chiefs and you were trading down and taking Johnson?

        • Jason Seibel

          Depends on who they trade with. First round swaps, second this year and first next year would be reasonable I think.

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            Are you staying in the top 10 this year and thinking that pick you get back will be in the top 1/2 of round one next year?

          • Jason Seibel

            That’s my thought. Trading with Buffalo, Cleveland or Arizona pretty much guarantees a top 15 pick next year.

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            that would work. I would even be tempted to use the first and a third this year to move up if I could still take Joeckel or Fisher. It’s a tempting trade. Oakland in particular could be looking to move back if they sign a QB. It’s a tempting trade idea.

        • Donkeyhater

          I think if we trade down and get at least a 2nd rounder we should try and keep Albert and take a defensive player or maybe the WR Patterson. Unless they absolutely can’t reach a reasonable deal I think we’re better off with Albert and a playmaking DL or WR than just a rookie tackle, especially if it isn’t Joeckel or Fisher. Johnson should be good but I’m not sure he’ll be better than Albert or even as good.

        • dominicscarlatti

          I too would strongly prefer Joeckel or Fisher if the choice is an OT, which I expect it will most likely be. Lane may well turn out to be better than either of them, but I’d feel a lot better knowing that our vaunted rookie #1 overall OT is likely to be able to start right away. Still, I surely won’t cry if we trade down further, pick up a 2nd round pick, and still get Johnson. I could see Warmack or Cooper as well, especially if Reid/Dorsey believe that either Stephenson or Schwartz can capably man ORT and Branden is staying.

  • toperspective

    If we can get one of the top three tackles I’d be ok. But I hope they would be getting more than just a 2nd round pick to trade the number 1.

    • Doug McD

      Not sure if that will happen (top 3 tackles). I think if we trade it would be with the Bills. I trust R&D to make the correct decisions. Sometimes you need to make sacrifices and defer to next year. I would be happy to get Geno if we get some picks for B.Albert or resign him to a long term contract. I don’t think Albert wants to stay here and probably wants more $ than he is worth.

      • toperspective

        If the Raiders get Flynn and Palmer goes to AZ then the # of teams in the Geno sweepstakes have gotten much smaller. Maybe only Buffalo, the Jags and Phil. I agree re Albert.

        • KCMikeG

          Brownies are shopping both of their QB’s and added Campbell just like the faiders with Flynn and Cards maybe getting Palmer ALL are signing least worst option. The Jets are in need also.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Bills just got Kolb. That probably takes them out of the Geno sweepstakes.

        • Specner

          why??? Kolb=failure at starting in Arizona, Jackson=Failure at starting in Minny….if anything they are just getting good backups and hoping to god they don’t get stuck with them as starters….

          i don’t see Kolb as anything more then just an insurance policy

          • Danny W

            Agreed Kolb is like Brady Quinn at this point.

          • KCMikeG

            Bandaide to stop the hemorrhaging. Just like Flynn with the faiders! We owe the Bills some major ass whoopings and can’t wait to watch the 1st one in just months.

  • stephan costa

    Anything that helps us while hurting chokeland is a win/win in my book anyday

  • Calchiefsfan

    The ideal situation would be if more than one team wants/needs to trade up. Playing several teams against each other should always get a better value for your pick. I’d like to see the Chiefs get more than swapping 1sts and an addional 2nd rd pick. But if that’s the best we can do then I would still go for it as long as we remain in the top 10.

    I’m okay with Lane Jouhnson because his upside could be more than Joeckel or Fisher due to his athleticism. Plus he could play the right side for a year and develop.I also like Lotulelei, if available, and then pick up a RT with the 2nd round pick. There’s a lot of directions the Chiefs could go with a top ten pick and a high 2nd round pick or more. I like all of them better than the 1st pick in the draft and no 2nd.

    • KCMikeG

      Right there with you on each point. Fisher & Lane over Joeckel. I like Flyod too. Milliner & Minter & Mingo too. So many options in the 2nd and 3rd round too this year.

  • micah stephenson

    Select the BPA for my team which wud b GENO SMITH.

  • micah stephenson

    Dude quit saying the Chiefs wud trade with the raiders please. That blows my high and makes me skeptical about reading on.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Micah, if the Raiders trade for Flynn, as rumored, I think they will look to draft a DL at #3, as their cupboard is quite empty of DL’s. If Sharrif Floyd is there, I’d be really surprised if they don’t take him. All that, of course, would be good news, as it would seem to slightly increase the probability that our Chiefs will select GENO at #1… :-)

      • micah stephenson

        Even if the Raiders signed Flyn I wud not trust them to not take Geno if i traded them the #1 pick.

        • KCMikeG

          I feel the same Micah but think Dominic is right about how desperate they are at DL. It is a coin flip to determine which side of the ball they will be worse on. Makes me smile all day long.

          • dominicscarlatti

            Agree 100% Michael. Now, if we can just spoil the Broncs’ season next year, it’ll be heavenly.

  • kmon

    I don’t give a shit what we do just as long as we don’t draft joeckel! I’m fine with fisher but not ‘FLUKE JOKEl’

    • Danny W

      I like RUjoekelingme better.

      • KCMikeG

        It gives me some comfort to see Fisher rise above Joeckel in some mocks. Hopefully enough influence for us to take him if we go OT. Keep Albert at LT after he comes back from FA without a payday as big as he had hoped and sign him for long term. Gives us time to develop Don Stephenson at LT with the option to move Fisher from RT or draft a LT next year if Albert has back issues. I smell bust with Joeckel or maybe just underperformance with the NFL speed rush.

        • Danny W

          I don’t know if Joeckel will bust but he doesn’t seem to have the mean streak Fisher has.

  • Outback Chief

    If we aren’t taking Geno then I see no reason not to trade back unless we don’t get more than 2100 points value, then they can take there chances. Oh and if the Raiders don’t cough up more than 6000 pts they can bite it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005102554690 Jason Taylor

    Those of you endorsing a trade with the Raiders than could benefit the Raiders should be ashamed of yourself. We’re Chiefs fans. We do not help the Faiders, the Bronc-hos or the Chargers. Period. No buts…no exceptions. If we make a trade with the Raiders…we better get the next 3 first round picks or Management should be drug through the streets and beaten.

    • dominicscarlatti

      I’d be just fine with fleecing the Raiduhs, if we are able…

      • KCMikeG

        Agreed but they do just fine on their own and I would never forgive us if we handed Geno to them and he turned out to be a star.

        • dominicscarlatti

          That truly is the nightmare scenario, isn’t it?!

  • Jim Harper

    Trading down is looking bleaker by the minute. With what looks like only Philly and the Jags still in play. The only way the Jags do it is if they are convinced we won’t take him. Truthfully the Eagles are not that desperate.

    • KCMikeG

      And the only way they do that is to trade up with us. Don’t forget there are still the, Eagles (who gave him nuch attention & is open to trading Foles), Browns, Cards and Jets. Plus there are teams that may want to make moves on a LT or OLB/DE that will go in the top 10. The Eagles are kind of desperate at OT though. The great news is the faiders won’t get to rub our nose in it every year, twice a year. That alone would have made my week but them moving on from the huge investment they made in Palmer to a wing and a prayer with Flynn brings me great pleasure.

  • Jim Harper

    Maybe the Bills are still in play. They only signed Kolb to a 2 yr max $13 mil deal and would make a very good starter while Geno works on his flaws. Here’s hoping!

  • John Frisbee

    Trade it if you can get a second this year, and a second next year and stay in the top 10.
    Smith wilts like a morning glory with the sun out when he see’s a real D. There is no sure thing at the top and the extra picks might yield another Flowers.

    • ArrowFan

      Love your profile pic

  • jimfromkcj

    I keep hearing about players playing with a mean streak, well I just don’t buy it. I would much better have a player who plays within the rules and has the strength and talent to play under control. Most of those players who play with a mean streak have a tendency to draw penalties when they are either overrunning the play or getting beat by a better player. Joeckel has never been one to draw lots of penalties plus he seems to always play under control and plays to the whistle. He also has a stronger lower body than either Fisher or Johnson. Just remember, those players who are drafted for their upside are more likely to bust than a guy who has already played at a high level.

  • http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/community/profile/index.jsp?ipid=14872822 upperturion

    Chiefs will keep Albert, and draft Gino … it’s a wrap fella’s…

    • Jason Seibel

      Where is your omniscient information coming from? I would go to Vegas and put a year’s pay down that both of those things don’t happen.

      • http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/community/profile/index.jsp?ipid=14872822 upperturion

        From on high…….why of course…

  • freshmeat62

    First of all, I think you can forget about a trade w/ the Raiders. Teams very rarely make trades within their own division, and besides it looks like they will be taking care of their QB by trading for Flynn. And as for the Cardinals, they look like they will be trading for Carson Palmer, and the Bills are about to sign Kolb. So a lot has changed since this story came out. It looks like the Jets and possibly Eagles are about the only ones left that might trade up.

  • ArrowFan

    The best player available is not a clear cut choice. To think that Luke Joeckel will be our pick at #1 if we pick at #1 would be at best a 50/50. Any trade out of the #1 spot should be viewed as a win for us. However if we don’t trade out of it I would rather pick Geno then try and trade him then and there. If we pick him and no one wants to trade then I’m perfectly happy to have him to develop him. Until last years crazy awesome rookie QB class it was not unheard of or even out of the ordinary to draft a QB in the first round and sit him for a season or two.

  • Joe Myers

    do we have a problem now Patrick. !!! Hahahahaha yeah your racest you want to single me and for no reason it wasn’t me that made homophobic slurs dude . And you know fuck this web site and fuck you !!! Don’t worrie I won’t be back not if im going to be treated like this singled out for some unknown reason .

  • Jason Seibel

    Wow dude. What’s your issue?

  • ArrowFan

    good bye and don’t let the door hit you on the way out

  • toperspective

    I’d venture that it has something to do with medication

  • Jason Seibel

    Or the lack thereof?

  • KCMikeG

    There seems to be some seriously disturbed individuals conducting delusional trolling campaigns laced with paranoia and insults. Must be the weather change having disturbed the hibernation of these creatures.

  • steve james

    I have always wondered why people go out like that? It accomplishes nothing but to confirm their douche ness.

  • Joe Myers

    no I was falsely accused of a homophobic comment. And I won’t tolerate it !!! .

  • Doug McD

    Kraigk – I think the best thing to do is just move on. As my dad use to say and as I say to my kids (even to myself). Just “shake it off your OK”. I encourage you to continue to make football related comments. I enjoy reading all comments and perspectives even if I don’t agree with them.

    I’m not saying anyone did anything wrong. We all just need to be respectful of the rules. I understand your frustration and would miss your opinion if you left or were kicked off.

  • Danny W

    Well what did you say exactly do your recall?