Chiefs’ Dorsey Throws Cold Water On QB Dream

John David Mercer-USA TODAY Sports

Somewhere former Kansas City Chiefs first round draft pick, former QB Todd Blackledge, is popping a bottle of champagne.

Just as the 1972 Dolphins uncork a bottle of bubbly every season when the last undefeated NFL team loses, thus preserving the ’72 team’s legacy as the only NFL team to win the Super Bowl without losing a single game, Blackledge could begin his own tradition of celebrating his esteemed place in history as being the last QB the bungling Kansas City Chiefs have deemed talented enough to select in the first round of the NFL Draft.

Despite desperate cries from weary fans that just want to see their beloved Chiefs select the best possible QB of the bunch and try to develop him, it is beginning to look more and more like those cries will fall on deaf ears.

Speaking with the Kansas City Star, new Chiefs GM John Dorsey sounded less than enthusiastic about the QB prospects in this year’s draft.

There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, ‘He’s a first-round pick. There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, ‘I’m the guy in the position this year.’ There really wasn’t one clear-cut guy.

Oof. That doesn’t sound good, does it?

This sounds even words. Dorsey wasn’t finished.

There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be.

Now, KC fans can try to convince themselves that just because Dorsey is saying that no QB jumped up during the season and proved to be the #1 guy that there isn’t a number one guy. Sure, it is possible that the Chiefs will see some things in person that they didn’t see on tape that will cause them to change their thinking.

But if you ask me, Dorsey’s words are bad, bad news. It sounds like the new GM is trying to set up fans for a letdown. I can’t think of any other reason for him to go around talking about how there is no clear QB at #1.

If Dorsey’s goal is to trade back, it would be in his best interest to be talking up as many of the top players as possible before draft night. The position teams are most likely to trade up for is QB so going around bad-mouthing the entire class isn’t going to inspire any QB-needy teams to call the Chiefs and offer up a deal.

No. It seems more likely that Dorsey is trying to cushion the blow for fans. If Dorsey really does think the QB class is poor then he probably knows he’s got no chance of getting a decent enough trade offer to move back. And if he refuses to take a QB that he will consider a reach, then his best bet is to slowly start trying to convince fans that there is no QB worth taking #1.

The only other reason I can think of, for Dorsey to be talking like this, is that he is trying to convince the handful of QB-needy teams behind the Chiefs that they too, should pass on QBs in the top ten. If that should happen, the Chiefs could trade back into the first round or, if they are lucky, see the QB they want fall to them int he second.

Here are the teams the Chiefs have to worry about:

Jacksonville Jaguars
-Blain Gabbert was a #1 pick just a couple of years ago. Still, he hasn’t played well and the Jags are under new ownership. Jacksonville is not to be trusted here.

Oakland Raiders
-Carson Palmer is getting old but the Raiders seemed to be intrigued by backup QB Terrelle Pryor. The Raiders are under new management, however, so the new regime may want to select their own QB.

Philadelphia Eagles
-Just re-signed Vick and picked up Dennis Dixon. It would appear Philly isn’t thrilled with this year’s QBs and will take a pass. Probably nothing to worry about.

Detroit Lions
-The Lions aren’t taking a QB.

Cleveland Browns
-The Browns have both Colt McCoy and Branden Weeden. Weeden played well at times last year and showed flashes of being very good. Unfortunately, he may not be progressing fast enough for the new (again) Browns regime. Weeden’s advanced age could have him being traded out of Cleveland. The Browns are a wildcard.

Arizona Cardinals
The Cardinals’ QB situation is just as pitiful as the one in KC. If a QB hasn’t been taken by the time the Cards pick, I bet they’ll pull the trigger.

Buffalo Bills
The Bills need a QB as well. Watch what them closely in free agency an you may get a better idea of what they will do here.

New York Jets
-THe Jets will take a QB if they want one, everyone else be damned. The team that traded for Tim Tebow so they could let him rot on the bench for a season is as unpredictable as the Al Davis Raiders.

Tennessee Titans
-The Titans have a young QB but if a Geno Smith were to fall on their laps they might go for it. Probably not, though.

The team that picks after the Titans is the San Diego Chargers and they kick off the run of teams that all have stability at starting QB. It is always possible a team could snag a QB late but it is probably unlikely.

Dorsey did say that he thinks up to two QBs could go in the first round, but which teams will take them?

What do you think, Addicts? Should we take Dorsey’s words to mean that QB is off the table for the Chiefs in round one?

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  • Heilios

    Well this is kind of a kick in the teeth on sunday morning. Hope he’s just blowing smoke

  • Doug McD

    I would be dissapointed if we didn’t pickup a QB but it is hard to second guess someone with his experience. Could this be a setup or just an off the cuff, out of thin air remark. Or just the hard cold facts of this year? I suppose it is possible that they are looking at someone nobody in the media has talked about yet. Any ideas out there on someone that could be a long shot? Please someone tell me that they aren’t thinking about keeping Cassel.

    • Chris Tarrants

      If Cassel runs out with the first string this year I swear to god any game that I go to I will be wearing all black and will also be donating money to saveourchiefs.com so that they can continue flying banners! This is our team damnit we pay their salaries and it’s about time they take us into consideration

      • Chris Tarrants

        I’m sick and fucking tired of dumping my hard earned money on these worthless cocksuckers just so that they can put sub par crap on the field and pocket the extra instead of building a team that will compete

        • chiefridgy

          Nice language

        • http://www.facebook.com/genemyuk Gene Yuknis

          spoken like a true raider fan

      • chiefridgy

        Yeah I could see on that game where everyone was supposed to wear black that the save our Chiefs.com has such an astounding effect on things. I know they single-handedly got Pioli fired.

      • Danny W

        I don’t think KC’s new brass will be this foolish. I pray not anyway.

    • Danny W

      Jadavian Clowney is going to be an all world year in and year out pro bowl lock according to most pundits. I’ve heard that he’s trying to declare. People are saying that he’s a no brainer number one overall next year no questions asked. If the Chiefs have told him “if you can somehow declare this year we will sign you” then maybe he is going to litigate his position. If he can declare I could see us pulling the trigger on this guy or all of the sudden having trade partners in droves.

      • Michael Shaw

        Who?

        • Danny W

          Clowney is a kid out of South Carolina who scouts tout as the next Reggie White. Youtube him and his famous hit were it looks like he knocks a running backs head completely off. Kid is going to be good. I want Geno Smith though.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    It’s February 17th. The Combine is forthcoming. Pro Days are forthcoming. If this were the first week of April, I’d be concerned.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      According to Pioli, most teams like to have their draft boards set before the combine and they go there hoping they leave with their board looking the same.

      If the Chiefs have Geno, based on what their scouts have been telling them, rated as a 2nd round pick and after the combine, they think he is the #1 overall then we could be in trouble because either our scouts suck or our in-person talent evaluation sucks.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Teams would be doing themselves a disservice to have a fixed draft board before the Combine and subsequent Pro Days. I don’t doubt that they assemble one, but I have a hard time believing that it doesn’t change during the two months leading up to the Draft.

        • Danny W

          Hope your right Smith. Hope they dazzle us in this draft but these words make no sense to me. Why would bashing the quarterbacks do any good at this point. It’s just a bit concerning. I’m looking up in the sky and thinking it just may fall!

          • KCMikeG

            Maybe he’s trying to push Geno down so he can trade up later in the 1st? Maybe he is trying to keep negotiations open so a potential trade partner doesn’t give up on Geno because everyone knows we are taking him and go elsewhere sign a FA – keeping Geno in play would incent someone to trade over one of the other teams that think Geno is the next RGIII?

          • Danny W

            I think at this point one guess is as good as another. I think I’ve just trained my emotions to prepare for the worse case scenario.

  • GDL40

    Way too early …… first things first, RESIGN Albert and Bowe ! ….. get rid of Cassel and Dorsey to help with that. Let the combine happen, and lets see where all of this stands in mid April…… I will say though that this seems like the loooongest off-season ever !!!!

  • tm1946

    I am so glad Dorsey has spoken. All QBs have flaws, even the sainted Geno. Folks it will not mean we do not draft a QB and he may boom or bust but not with the first pick. Now how about we consider who might be the best fit out of college for the Chiefs with their first pick?

    Or the Chiefs might be testing the waters

  • Arrowhead Greg

    I don’t know what it means. I know that we still havn’t had the combine! We need to trust in this new regime. Trust that they will make the right descisions. They will get us a QB no matter what. We just need to trust them!

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Disagree. Trust is something that is earned, not given by default. People were running around spewing “In Pioli we trust” for a couple of years and how did that work out for them?

      I will trust Dorsey and Reid when they give me a reason to and not before.

      • Spencer

        thank you^^….Dorsey i have no faith in if he doesn’t draft the best QB availble, all he is doing is nick picking and not trying to make a team better imo…just another idiot as a chiefs GM

        • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

          I mean, I don’t care what he does. If he passes on Geno Smith and trades ten first round picks for Alex Smith and we win the Super Bowl, he’ll be ok in my book.

          • Spencer

            i know what u mean, i agree with the he doesn’t deserve our trust until he earns it…

            he just loses all of my trust the moment he wastes the 1st overall pick on a “star” loutelli (another Jackson/2 down defensive linemen that can’t get after the QB and i doubt has the athletic ability of Poe…another position of which won’t make this team any better, we were terrible because of QB, the QBs turned the ball over, they made our defense worse (put them in bad positioning due to turnovers and how you only needed to score 14 points against us and u could probably win….

            We haven’t had a good 1st rnd caliber QB in years, we deserve one at this point…even if he is only “deserving of the 5th overall pick” he is at least a 1st rnd pick and we need to get him already…

          • Danny W

            If a kid is worth a top ten pick then he’s worth drafting number one overall if it’s your biggest need, and oh it happens to be the most important position of any sport played.

          • Chiefswatch

            Yea the only problem is that won’t happen.

          • Michael Shaw

            What, Geno won’t be an immediate pro bowler?

          • Danny W

            I’m the same. Say we get Barkley, Glennon, Nassib, or some other kid in the second and they go all Andy Dalton well then great. But if Geno Smith gets drafted three spots below us and is a pro bowler while our guy is mediocre, then BS! I’m ticked off. As a fan I’ve waited long enough for a franchise quarterback.

          • Joe Myers

            no Patrick their is no QB that can take us to the sb on the market their haven’t been for a long time . Most of the teams that have gone to the sb drafted their respective QBs

  • Dr Phil

    spell check do you really get paid to write

    • Chiefswatch

      Punctuation? You are loser.

    • Danny W

      It’s a football blog Phil. If you want a dissertation go to a library.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      We all the paid the same amount to write these columns as you do to comment on them.

    • Michael Shaw

      Says the guy who doesn’t capitalize the first letter in his sentence and then doesn’t put in a period or some other form of punctuation. Loser!

  • Ron White

    Based on Dorsey’s take and the Brandon Albert direction it looks like we will be welcoming a Star into the Kingdom….

    • Danny W

      Not this guy. I’m so sick and tired of block eaters it’s sickening to my gut. If some how Clowney becomes eligible and we get him, well thats another story, but Star, we draft him and every time the kid walks out I’m booing him and chanting Geno, Geno, Geno.

      • Michael Shaw

        Wow, is that really fair to Star? He has no choice in who he is drafted by, so why would you boo him???? That is just ignorant nonsense to me, sorry.

        • Danny W

          It was written with some emotion behind it. An overreaction on my part, that said the kid will be getting paid to play in a public arena. MIllions to boot. If this were to hurt his feelings that’s a little pathetic.

        • micah stephenson

          Its not booing star. Its booing Dorsey and Ried. I dont want star so im booing him too jus to make him wish the chiefs drafted Geno too instead of himself.

          • Danny W

            pretty much would be the emotion behind it. Star is Tyson Jackson and Poe 2.0 eating blocks being the name of the game. Drafted number 1 overall by the defensive line getting Chiefs. Hey were letting two go probably time to start picking up other D lineman who can’t get to the quarterback really high in the draft.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bryant.harris.37 Bryant Harris

        lol thats the funniest thing iv read all week

  • ladner morse

    The timing of Dorsey’s comments appear to be directed towards this year’s class of QB’s in case any of them is considering not throwing or participating in any of this year’s NFL Combine in Indianapolis — which just so happens to begin in 3 days.

    This is also reminiscent of 2010 when the Atlanta Falcons’ GM, and close friend of Scott Pioli, stated, “I was talking to Scott Pioli about Berry, and I said, ‘Scott, this guy’s your pick.’ And he said, ‘You know how I feel about safeties that early.”
    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/tag/_/name/thomas-dimitroff

    Can you name any GM… any GM on any team… who has tipped his hand about who he might, or might not, be selecting in an upcoming draft? No? Me either.

    Dorsey’s comments should be taken for what they are meant to be… because you can say with 100% assuredness that he is parsing his words and knows exactly what he’s doing by saying what he’s saying. So, what Dorsey is doing here is: 1) misdirecting for a specific reason(s), or 2) aiming a big stick up the rears of this years QB draft class and any of them who may be considering not joining in the festivities in Indy.

    The last thing I would believe about his comments is that he’s trying to let Chiefs fans down easy by beginning to prepare them for the apocalypse of not drafting a QB at number one.

    • berttheclock

      GMs? No, but, Al Davis wrote a letter to the Little Rock paper where he raved about McFadden.

    • Chief Hokie

      All the top QBs have already committed to throwing at the combine so what’s the point?

    • Danny W

      Man I don’t know Laddie, sometimes where theres smoke theres fire. I’m thinking with all the commentators, saying theres no quarterback worth the number one pick maybe we have somehow as fans through necessity of change at the position have lied to ourselves that this is what the brass should deem best. I personally have seen enough tape of the kid to think he will do fine. I’m just going to go ahead and believe they won’t and save myself the heartache.

  • berttheclock

    Just draft any QB in the 1st Round and there should be instant success, eh?
    Since the 2003 draft, there have been 31 QBs taken in the 1st Round. Of those, eleven have established themselves as solid foundations for their respective teams, with six, either, having some moments or the jury is still out on them. Those six are Alex Smith, Carson Palmer who had one fine year in ’05, Ponder, Weeden, Tannehill and Cutler. Only Luck, RG3, Cam Newton,Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford, Josh Freeman, Ryan, Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Rivers and Big Ben rise above the others. Fifteen have not made the cut. Russell was horrible, with Sanchez and Leinart being in the What Happened category. Jason Campbell has been up and mostly down.
    So, perhaps, a 33 percent chance of return on your pick is acceptable by some. However, it really looks as though many different GMs grew very long arms to attempt to reach just because they felt their respective team really really really needed a QB.

    • Chiefswatch

      Yea and KC, the team to not select a QB in forever, is drafting number one overall. Do you see the problem with your argument.

      • Michael Shaw

        Nope. Sounds like a sound argument given this years draft class!!!!

    • micah stephenson

      So then according to wat you trying to say, why would any team ever draft a QB 1st rd? How many times have the top ranked QB in the draft panned out to b pretty good? Alot.

    • shayaan

      those stats would be more meaningful if you only looked at the top QBs in each class. of course teams will reach for guys after the first (and typically highest rated) QB comes off the board.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Remember these words? “you know how I feel about taking a Safety that high?” Where Poili went right out and drafted Eric Berry

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Right but saying something like that had a benefit to Pioli if he wanted Berry. There were teams drafting ahead of the Chiefs and so letting it slip that he wasn’t that in to Berry was a benefit for Pioli because it might have caused other teams to NOT jump ahead of him.

      When you have the first pick, you don’t need to worry about anyone jumping you. If Dorsey wants Geno he can run around with a sandwich board on his back saying “Geno is my guy” and there isn’t a damn thing anyone can do about it.

      • berttheclock

        It is the same as announcements made and signings put together prior to draft day for the 1st Pick. That is another reason for the “success” of late Mock Drafts. When, the deal is done before Goodell steps upon the stage, Goodell might as well say, “Welcome to the 2013 NFL draft and Jacksonville is on the clock”.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        He could be trying to gauge the trade down market.

        • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

          Yeah but he doesn’t need to trash the QB’s and potentially hurt their stock to do that. If he want’s to gauge the trade market all he has to do us pick up the phone.

          We like to assign these elaborate plans to these GMs when they say something that goes against what we want but I think he may just actually be telling the truth. Doesn’t mean he won’t change his mind but he doesn’t need to get overly tricky…he can take any player he wants in the entire draft.

          • Danny W

            I’m pretty used to getting let down by KC GM’s at this point too. I’ve grown apathetic to it. Looks like a DE to me. How stupid and sad.

  • berttheclock

    Kudos to Heckert, the former GM for the Browns, for using that 2nd on Gordon, who is fast, can separate and has fine hands. I thought Pioli might spring for him, but, it would have taken our 1st. Had that happened, the Chiefs would only be looking to either draft at 34 or try to move up. But, at least, the Chiefs would have had a fine young wide out.

  • Guest

    The timing of Dorsey’s comments appear to be directed towards this year’s class of QB’s in case any of them is considering not throwing or participating in any of this year’s NFL Combine in Indianapolis — which just so happens to begin in 3 days.

    This is also reminiscent of 2010 when the Atlanta Falcons’ GM, and close friend of Scott Pioli, stated, “I was talking to Scott Pioli about Berry, and I said, ‘Scott, this guy’s your pick.’ And he said, ‘You know how I feel about safeties that early.” http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/tag/_/name/thomas-dimitroff

    Can you name any GM… any GM on any team… who has tipped his hand about who he might, or might not, be selecting in an upcoming draft? No?
    Me either.

    Dorsey’s comments should be taken for what they are meant to be… because you can say with 100% assuredness that he is parsing his words and knows exactly what he’s doing by saying what he’s saying. So, what Dorsey is doing here is: 1) misdirecting for a specific reason(s), or 2) aiming a big stick up the rears of this years QB draft class and any of them who may be considering not joining in the festivities in Indy.

    The last thing I would believe about his comments is that he’s trying to let Chiefs fans down easy by beginning to prepare them for the apocalypse of not drafting a QB at number one.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      I don’t know. Having the 1st pick id different than having any other pick in the draft. The Dolphins signed Long before the draft even happened. How is that for tipping your hand?

      • berttheclock

        Or the Lions announcing on April 24, 2009, they had signed Stafford for a guaranteed contract of $41.7 million. Roger Goodell stepped up to the podium in New York City on April 25, 2009 to announce the Lions had selected Stafford with the 1st pick in that 2009 draft which began on April 25.

        • Darkwolf1414

          Patrick and Bert, you’re talking about things that happened a single day before the draft. We’re still over a month away, haven’t had the combine or pro days. It’s too early to equate this situation with those 2.

  • Chelsii.

    You think the Eagles want another QB. I thought they were pretty happy with Foles.

    • tanneyisgarbage

      kelly would gladly draft manuel and move foles off roster. he doesnt fit the offense

  • Daniel Mayfield

    If they don’t pick up a QB in the #1 pick, they are pretty much stupid! Just because there’s not 1 that runs all over the field like RG3. I believe he can do just as well as Luck did and better then Tannehill. Maybe not Russell either but he had speed. Geno is good and would be great for the team.

    Dorsey is gonna upset fans if he don’t get a QB on the team or they don’t get 1 of 4 they have playing good. IMO, get rid of Cassel and give Alex Tanney and try. If he’s not the 1, try Stanzi. If Dorsey can’t get a QB playing the game the way they should, fans will look at him like they looked at Pioli after a while.

    GET THE JOB DONE DORSEY!

    • Heilios

      I would actually love to see Alex Tanney succeed in the nfl. I’d rather see him than stanzi

      • tanneyisgarbage

        too bad tanney SUCKS. what is wrong with you guys? hes TERRIBLE

    • Danny W

      Oh make no mistake about it. If no quarterback is taken, or gotten in free agency there will be an outcry like no other. Clark Hunt needs to intercede in these instances. A quarterback couldn’t be needed worse by another team in the league.

      • Joe Myers

        the fact we haven drafted a QB in 30 years and haven’t won a sb in 50 years haven’t won a playoff game in 20 years …. I know we beat the the Steelers with Joe at home im just saying . Not picking Geno will be the biggest mistake ever.

        • Danny W

          I think it will be a pretty big mistake. That said for me it’s not a complete deal breaker. Not addressing the QB position at all though, well we won’t even go there.

  • disqus_pRLSjXqCfj

    Doraey is right, there is no RGB III or Andrew Luck. Since Vick is no longer available we would be better off getting Tebow. He had proven he can play in NFL. He won more playoff games than Manning has for Denver. I’d take him over any of the QBs in this years draft.

    Also, Cassel could succeed under Reid once he has consitency in the OC position. No QB can suceed with a new OC every year. About 1/2 of the passes hit the reciever in their hands and they either dropped it or knocked in air for interception. Reid will take care of that.

    • chiefridgy

      First off, Tim Tebow? WTF! Secondly, Cassel could be good? Thirdly, half the passes hit the receivers in the hands? Puff puff pass man…. But seriously, thanks, I needed a good laugh.

    • Chief Hokie

      NOOO just no.

    • http://www.facebook.com/genemyuk Gene Yuknis

      i’m assuming you have a tattoo of him on your arm also..hmmm.. interesting

    • Chiefswatch

      ROFL are you a Raiders fan…..Get Tebo and Keep Cassel….man the stadium would be 10% full

    • Danny W

      Yah Tim Tebo, and we could continue on with Pioli’s plan to run the ball constantly in a passing league. Perhaps start a new trend, or just rehash an old one over and over again…
      Tim’s a good man and I think he will do great great things. I’m just not convinced anyone thinks it’s going to be at the quarterback position.

    • Joe Myers

      you need to be smacked

  • chiefridgy

    We shouldn’t read into this or trust anybody or whatever. More than likely we are not going to know what they’re going to do until they make their pick.

  • cyberry

    There are so many smoke screens, who knows, what they are really thinking.,In a perfect world..I think the Chiefs are hoping for some teams in the upper tenish pick to trade up to get Joeckel then get a extra 2nd or 3rd rd pick and pick Geno.. You can say..”big deal” an extra 3rd Rd, but add that with the 2nd rd pick, trade up and you potentially have two #1 picks…

    • Michael Shaw

      Nice thought. Who would you think would trade up to us???

      • KCMikeG

        Eagles who have shown interest in Joeckel or one of the worst ranked OL’s last year in the Cards, the Panthers, Jags, Raiders, Rams, Bears or Colts. At QB – Jags won’t with this kind of talk from Dorsey but might make the Cards, Bills or Jets want to trade up for Geno to keep the Jags or Faiders from getting him.

  • jimfromkcj

    for those who think the Chiefs are cheap, I would say they aren’t cheap, just stupid.I have been taking crap by still thinking Weeden is a franchise QB, so I looked up some stats that I find interesting. Comparing the chiefs to the Browns turned up some comparisons that most will not believe. The Browns spent almost 45 Mill cap money on their defence last year and were rated #23, the Chiefs spent 70 mill on their defence and were rated only 3 positions better at #20. On offence the Browns spent 39 mill and were at position #25, the Chiefs spent 47 mill and were 1 position better at #24. The Browns won 5 games and it cost them about 17 mill a win and the Chiefs won 2 at a cost of about 59 mill a win. Now many of the posters are saying that we should pay top money to Albert and Bowe. I am glad they don’t have any say about how I spend my money. I found this information on a site called Over the Cap.

    • cyberry

      The last three 1st rd picks, before the new CBA contract, where defense. Plus the extended Tamba, Flowers and Johnson. I’m curious how much it will drop after Dorsey and Jackson have new (lower) contracts or released. But the Chiefs did send four defensive players to the pro-bowl. Only one on offense… In retrospect..it’s hard to believe the NFL let that rookie pay get so out of hand…I wonder if St. Louis wishes they had wanted a year to pick their franchise QB..lol

      • jimfromkcj

        Yancy, I think the Rams have been really lax in finding good offensive linemen to protect Sam. They knew about his shoulder injuries before they drafted him, so if you had been the GM would you have hung him out to dry like they did? I think he will do just fine if they get him some good receivers and some better protection. As for me, I would never have drafted him because of the injuries he had in college. I just don’t believe in taking chances with a 1st rd pick. I also would have never drafted Dorsey as he had a history of leg injuries. A doctor can ok a player to play, but they can’t say he will perform at the same level as they did before the injury. Dorsey has never looked like the same player he was before the injuries.

  • KCMikeG

    Not sure I’m seeing the benefit of Dorsey making this statement. Maybe he is wanting to make it clear that we are open to trades so that teams that want Geno or Joeckel won’t just give up because “everyone knows” we are going to take one of them. Maybe he is trying to raise the concerns of teams picking in the top 10 that think the Chiefs are going to take Geno or Joeckel so they don’t have to worry about their desired pick being gone when their turn comes forcing them to consider a trade. Assuming we resign Albert who else would we draft with the #1 pick? Star isn’t worthy and we already have a pretty good DL. Or maybe they are planning on letting Dorsey and Jackson both go and are looking at Moore or Mingo? We have OLB’s so I guess that would leave CB? Milliner is the only top 10 talent. If confusion was our GM’s desired result I would say mission accomplished!

    • Joe Myers

      lf that is the case then this is a wasted draft what does Geno have to do to prove he’s number one .

      • soonerfan glenn

        being a better more talented QB would probably be a good start

        • Joe Myers

          so he’s not talented ? !!! Wow go home do some school work .

        • Danny W

          I guess you want Lance Jones?

      • KCMikeG

        Good question. All I heard was he is making some adjustments to his foot work. The guy has four consecutive years of improving play with stats better than many of the previously drafted worthy #1 QB’s. I still don’t get why he is not worthy.

        • Danny W

          That’s the million dollar question, why isn’t he worth it? Maybe this week during the combine we can find out with some video analysis why this is the rationale going on through various league sources.

          • KCMikeG

            Until I see video and analysis explaining why he isn’t worthy of a 1st round pick I will continue to hold hope. If we don’t take him we have to take a CB. There is no position of greater need after QB. It would be interesting to see some analysis of the teams that didn’t “reach” for a position of need and how that worked out for them. All I ever see is how the reach “failed”. What if the failure is more significant if a team doesn’t reach for their need?

  • http://www.facebook.com/genemyuk Gene Yuknis

    don’t you people get it? can’t you see what he’s doing? that’s why he’s a GM and your sitting in front of your couch on sunday ordering from pizza hut. come on folks, wake up!

    • shayaan

      he’s a GM because he benefitted from having favre and rodgers as QBs for every team he helped draft for. hopefully he recognizes how important the position is and gets KC someone better than another retread/stopgap.

    • tanneyisgarbage

      pioli was a gm too

  • Chiefswatch

    No question this asshole is not selecting Geno number one overall. You are spot on with that analysis Patrick because he is undoubtly trying to set us up. I hope he reads this because if he skips on Geno, Geno goes to Oakland and Oakland tears us up, his head will be on spike with this fan base. His job is to sell tickets and starting the year off with Nick Foles or Alex letdown Smith will not do that. Nobody is going to get excited about a tackle or another defenesive line player. This is the most depressing news of the day for me. I HATE new GMs and this loser is not changing my mind on that matter. FUCK

    • Joe Myers

      you know what this is a problem if we dont draft Geno their is no other QBs out their . Who IS out their ? Really ……. We are going to see the same bull shit we have been seeing for years this is really depressing . Nick folies is a bum idk what anyone says so smith we will have the same dame dalima as last year we might win a few more games but . why not man dame why would they do this to us we have been so loyal I hate the raiders so bad if they get Geno and beat us year in and year out I can’t tell you how I would feel . If they dont draft Geno I will never never NEVER ever again watch any fucking sports ever and I will just be angry for the rest of my life because I dont deserve to be let down so bad . IV never let the chiefs down this year the last game i was just as excited as the first game . With the elements in my life the last thing i want is for the raiders to get Geno and beat us . I will hate the chiefs , hunt , gm ,HC, i will never route for another team EVER!!! it will just be a part major part of my life gone and ill just be empty inside !!!! . Is this what you want from me Dorsey ?

    • micah stephenson

      I was thinking the same thing!!!! If they pass up Geno and oakland gets him, I want him to pass for over 500 yards a game against the chiefs. If Chiefs dont draft Geno Im not going to 1 game this yr!

    • soonerfan glenn

      and if we draft Geno and he sucks which is likely then all you same losers will be on here saying how it was a bad pick and calling for the guys head Fing moron

      • Joe Myers

        ok well your statement can be said about every QB available . FA , draft or otherwise . AND TRUST ME NO ONE ON THIS WEBSITE ARE LOSERS …. Except your self

      • Danny W

        Hey little buddy I’m sure your probably in Jr Highschool or something but listen, on an internet forum it’s not likely unless intentional you’ll ever meet any of these people in person. So insulting them personally with name calling isn’t just immature, it’s pretty cowardice. So if you have a take, express it and try and debate like an adult.

  • Danny W

    If they don’t draft Geno Smith he’d better suck it up in the pros. I mean bust out hard. If we get some scab from another team and this kid develops out like a ten year vet pro bowler then we’ve waisted the careers of Berry, Charles, Bowe, Johnson, Albert, Houston, Hali, and Flowers. When you have a cast this deep and ruin it because you can’t turn over every stone to find a quarterback then I don’t know if you deserve to keep a fan base.

    • Joe Myers

      you are so correct !!!

      • Danny W

        My emotional commitment to this team is really starting to loose out to my rational side anymore. In many ways the Chiefs are nostalgic, a past time I grew up with cheering and screaming at the TV with my father are some of my most cherished memories. That said if the team never fields a contender or hasn’t in twenty plus years and doesn’t seem committed to finding the most important position going on 7 years now, then you have to wonder do the bad times out weigh the good? If so how long should you stay committed to the unhealthy emotion of letdown? It’s wearing me thin. This draft means a lot to me as a fan of this organization. Another failed regime and this ol boy’s gonna be fishing a whole lot more on Sundays and catching the game on TEvo.

        • Joe Myers

          I dont think they truly understand what this draft means to all of us . I my self just had a baby boy his mother and her bf (she is a trator) are riders fans . Now how can I stop from being a raiders fan if we suck for another five years or more . Geno smith can throw right along with the rest of them the only reason I want to draft him is because he is the best QB . Tahj Boyd is who I want ; he I believe will have a hof career . Now is the time to roll the dice because the rest of the draft is full other all other position talent their are not many QBs we could build a future around in hopes of winning a Superbowl . I think Geno gives us that I think hear in KC the kid will have great success . Any where else and he will just be a really good QB .

          • Danny W

            I’m either a fan of KC or no fan at all and I really really love football. So if they suck they will always hold a place on the back of my mind. I want to draft Geno Smith, and if he fails then we will be in a position to draft Boyd next year. You have to turn over every stone until the franchise guy is found.

          • Joe Myers

            well you took the words right out of my mouth . I’m waiting to see his combine numbers if he is impressive im probably going to arrowhead and protest to draft Geno smith . We need to establish something we need a QB that’s all their is to . I really hope hunt sees the warning sine’s and steps is and give the people what they want a first round QB the best QB . To me that’s Geno smith . He even said he’s ready to be a leader and that statement in its self shows it . You know people say he threw that 650 + yrds on a bad yea but he had to out throw the other QB if he he did not they would of lost to me that’s clutch .

    • Michael Shaw

      True. Look at it from this point of view though. What if Dorsey and Reid and the Offensive coaching staff have gotten together and watched all the tape on Geno and have decided that he isn’t worth getting at #1? Wouldn’t it be better for us to draft Milliner or trade down if that is the case??? Why would you risk the best pick in the draft on a guy that you don’t really have confidence in just to satisfy the fan base??? That in of itself is not smart business. Sure we as fans are clamoring our chairs at the stadium for a Manning-esque type QB, but how quickly are most people going to be chastising Dorsey and Reid if they actually select him and he turns out to be another Vince Young, McNabb in Washington or………….god forbid, Fatmarcus Russell? I guarantee that most of the people on this very site will be asking for their heads if they pick him ad he doesn’t pan out. That is why we are fans of this team. WE WANT THEM TO WIN!!! I say wait until the combine is over, what next week, and then I be we have a better understanding of where the Chiefs brass are on the QB situation. Here is a question, has anyone heard of Geno or the other QB’s in this class seeking out great QB’s not associated with teams to see what they need to do to increase their draft stock????

      • Danny W

        Seattle Washington and Denver are great examples of what to do. In each case they are very quarterback hungry teams at the start of 2012. Each realizes to be successful they must at all costs find a guy who can throw the ball. Not just banking on their first option but getting relief options as well in each case. Seattle banked on their second option and he got them a playoff win. Kirk Cousins is going to get some qb hungry teams looking Washington’s way with some picks if Griffin keeps getting hurt. Oswieler is an unknown but a second round pick non the less with Manning as the lead guy.You could probably count San Fran in this category as well…. Geno is the consensus best QB in the draft by most standards. Don’t play games with it my opinion use the pick and get him. Go to free agency and pick someone else again. It’s that important. If he’s that bad then pick someone in the second and get someone in free agency. Just do your damn best to get this team straightened out at quarterback is all I’m asking. Not “it’s a process” all over again.

  • Michael Shaw

    First of all I love my Chiefs! I love reading this site and how its authors try to make the offseason less boring. Having said that, I am hoping against hope that Dorsey is not just blowing smoke here. I have looked on every site and show I can get access to and the consensus is the same…………NO QUARTERBACK IN THIS DRAFT CLASS IS WORTHY OF A TOP TEN PICK. I know as well as the rest of you that all we needed last year was a good QB and we would have been in contention for the division title and not picking number this year in the 2013 draft!!!! While that is our most desperate need on the team, we absolutely cannot pick one at #1. The talent pool at the QB position has not apparently shown to the NFL world that they deserve to be picked in the top ten. Will some team below us REACH and pick a QB early?? ABSOLUTELY. Will that person possibly become the next Tom or Peyton? MAYBE! I am no talent scout and probably couldn’t do it better than the guys that actually do the job, but I am good at listening to the masses. I have not heard one QB analyst say they see a top flight QB in this year’s draft. I am not a big Kiper fan and I am not a big McShay guy either. I sometimes agree with Mayock. The thing that has me believing the “hype” that there isn’t a solid #1 QB in this draft is the fact that they ALL pretty much agree to a man that this class is too weak to have one go in the top ten. Usually this time of year we see them disagree on where they think guys will fall and we almost never see them completely agree with anything. This year they ALL say that KC should not take a QB from this class #1 overall. Are they right? I guess only time will tell, but I for one would rather the team take Milliner at #1 or trade down because that is the only position of need that I see having a player worthy enough to take #1. Ok, I am ready for my raking over the coals!!! WAIT!!! One more thing……………I have read a couple of remarks on this site about booing rookies if they are drafted #1 in place of Geno or any other QB. That my friends is both classless and just plain stupid!!! Why in the hell would you blame the player for being drafted #1 over Geno, when it is COMPLETELY out of his control?????!!!!!! I was totally against picking Poe last year as I wanted Dre Kirkpatrick, David DeCastro, Riley Reiff, Dont’a Hightower or ANYONE other than Poe, however I have not booed him once. I am hoping that he shows up big this year, like he seemed to start doing toward the end of last year. Bottom line is this: There is nothing wrong with hating, disliking or being straight up pissed off at who the Chiefs pick, but it is NOT ok to boo that player when they come on the field!!!

    • micah stephenson

      Huh!!!!! After watching Poe at the scouting combine i cudnt sleep that night dreaming about him in a chiefs uniform.

      • mnelson52

        We should have taken QB last year when they were plentiful.

    • Danny W

      Geno Smith has better college numbers than Dan Marino, RG3, Peyton Manning, etc etc etc. The list goes on and on. I’m not buying he’s not worth the number one pick until I see some video evidence with an expert breaking it down. Since when is it immoral to boo another player? Do you not boo when the Raiders are introduced? I’ve been a fan since the late 80′s and if your hometown qb sucks some people boo. How is it immoral? It’s a public arena if they can’t handle being booed by someone then they need to forfeit the million dollar checks and go hang the cleats up and work at Walley World.

    • Joe Myers

      I dont care about any of that . Did you watch what happened last year .. No QB six probowlers and we got blew the fuck out almost every game . I understand your modesty but really dont kid yourself enough is enough . I’m tired of every other team getting it right and as a chiefs fan I reserve my right to feel how ever I want to feel . DRAFT GENO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Danny W

        The first amendment is a thing of beauty.

  • Michael Shaw

    Oh and nice write up Paddy!!!!

  • Travis Forsyth

    i’m going to go a little magic school bus here and say IT’S TIME TO TAKE CHANCES, MAKE MISTAKES, AND DRAFT A FREAKING QB! GENO SMITH! i mean seriously what could happen? sure, maybe he could be the next Blackledge but what if he’s the next dawson and wins us a super bowl or two? i mean you just never know and i thought reid was really really good “QB developer” so what should be the problem? sign a guy, draft a guy and let reid do his magic.

    • Danny W

      Ride on the magic school bus! Great show!

    • Justin R Groth

      Right even if he sucks we can’t be a whole lot worse than we are now. Hell we havnt had a STARTING caliber QB since 2006 when TrentGreen got hurt

  • ArrowFan

    There is no way less than three QB’s are picked up by the list of team presented in the first round. The position is to valuable and the price is to cheap (now) to not take a chance on one.

    • Danny W

      I’d say that’s accurate. It’s not that big of a risk/reward ratio anymore.

  • micah stephenson

    I dont like john dorsey so far at all!!! I dont care wat he has done in Green Bay!!! If he dont draft geno, this will b Pioli all over again! Both guys was spose to b a great a choice but if he dont draft geno, like Pioli he will get ran out of town!

  • micah stephenson

    I guess we gon haft to wait ten yrs before there is another Luck or RG3. We waited 30 yrs already, was another ten? :(

  • oldchiefsfan

    Hello everyone. I have read this site for a few weeks now and I have to have my say.This team needs a QB. Anybody who has watched a game for the last few years knows this team needs a QB. It is the general consensus of most everyone that Geno Smith is the top QB in this draft. I don’t understand how we can pass on the best QB in the draft. I’m tired of all these other teams cast offs and rejects. I want the best QB in this draft. If he’s a bust fine but at least we would have taken our best shot at getting a young QB in the draft. If we let Geno Smith go someplace else and he lights it up every Sunday then we will look terribly stupid. Please take a shot and draft him. If he is a bust fine at least we will have made an attempt to get that Franchise QB every single one of us wants.

    • Danny W

      Welcome to the comment section and welcome to the Geno Camp.

  • kcmike11

    Not that I know anything but this is what I would like to happen. Trade the first overall to Philly, so they can get Joeckel or whatever DL they want, We get the 4th overall, their 2nd Round and Nick Foles. We switch 3rd rounders. Take Dee Millner with the number 4 pick. Either use the two second rounders to trade back in towards the bottom and get a falling talent or take Barrett Jones G/C/T and Matt Elam S or DeAndre Hopkins WR. With this we address 4 needs losing no picks.

    • Chief Hokie

      This would be great but it’s incredibly risky with the QB situation unless you think Foles is the answer.

  • disqus_pRLSjXqCfj

    Funny how people forget that just 2 years ago Cassel threw for 3116 yrds, 27 TD’s and only 7 INT’s. So yes Cassel can be a very good QB if put in the right system. And if you no anything about Reid is that he relies on a lot of screen passes to his running backs and he uses his TE for short quick strikes over the middle. So yes, Cassel could thrive under Andy Reid. But if we do get rid of him, Tim Tebow would be great in Andy Reid’s system. When Tebow was given a chance in Denver he did win games for them coming off the bench. The only reason Denver let him go is because Elway, any other team Tim would have played that good off the bench would have started a QB controversy.

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