2013 NFL Mock Draft: Matt Barkley Or Geno Smith?


The Kansas City Chiefs appear to be on their way toward securing the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft and that means it is time to start talking QBs.

It is sad that with eight games to go we have to begin focusing on the draft but the Chiefs haven’t given us any indication that they’re going to make the rest of this NFL season interesting.

The Chiefs literally control their own destiny as far as securing the top pick is concerned. With just one win this season, the Chiefs have the worst record in football. Their primary competition right now is the Carolina Panthers, currently 1-6 and the Jacksonville Jaguars, also 1-6. The Cleveland Browns and New Orleans Saints are also in the mix at 2-5.

Now we can likely rule out the Saints. I find it hard to believe, bad as they’ve been, that a team with Drew Brees at QB will have the worst record in football by season’s end. As for the Browns, they appear to be trending in the right direction. Rookie QB Brandon Weeden has shown some nice flashes and they are getting a number of key players back on defense. Cleveland is likely to win a few more. Besides, the Chiefs play the Browns later this season. A loss for KC would pretty much kill Cleveland’s chances of having the top pick.

That leaves the Panthers and Jaguars. The good news is that the Panthers aren’t much of a threat. Even if they should finish with the worst record in the league, they already have Cam Newton on board. Plus, KC and Carolina play one another in December.

As for the Jags, they could potentially be problematic. They’re terrible and their only win came earlier this season against the Colts. Indy and Andrew Luck are playing much better now, however and even though Jacksonville will play them again, the result could be very different.

There is a good chance KC and Jacksonville could be picking 1-2.

Nobody wants to see more losing for the Chiefs but if the organization is going to finally draft a franchise QB, more losing is what they need.

But who is the franchise QB in this draft?

Currently, the top two candidates are Matt Barkley of USC and Geno Smith of West Virginia. Smith is the flashier of the two, having put up some gaudy numbers earlier this season but as of late his performance has slipped a bit. Barkley has been more consistent.

Current stats for both:

Smith: YDS TD INT
2417 26 2

Barkley: YDS TD INT
2266 25 8

The latest mock draft from Walter Football has the Chiefs picking #1 and taking Barkley. They have Smith going to the Jags at #2.

We still have a long way to go and a lot could change, but right now Smith and Barkley are the front runners.

What do you think, Addicts? Do you have a favorite in this race?

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Tags: 2013 Nfl Mock Draft Geno Smith Kansas City Chiefs Matt Barkley

  • Travis Forsyth

    i’m for geno smith. i just have a bad feeling about barkley.

  • ArrowFan

    Right now I say Geno, but there is still a lot of ground to cover before we get to that point.

  • Jeremy Parkercom

    I have my doubts about both, but I’m in the Geno camp.

  • ArrowFan

    I just hope who ever we get he doesn’t turn into a bust. I think picking the correct HC and OC would be just if not more important than who is QB. Then keeping everyone together for say 10 years.

  • RichardComstock

    DAMN! stinkoli truly is bad at everything. If we could have just melted down last year we would be set for the next ten years. I dont feel Great about either QB. Id say smith tho becuase USC qb’s genrealy suck in the pros.

  • Chief Hokie

    Another underperforming USC QB, who is a #7 and whose name is Matt…I’ll take Geno and another QB in the 3-4th round please.

  • Danny W

    Some are saying Tyler Wilson is going to make it to the second round. So whoever we get Smith or Barkley get Wilson in the top of the second as insurance. We can’t afford not to have the quarterback of the future on this team. Might see if we can’t get Hasselback in here to kind of grandfather them along. Zorn is supposed to be a quarterback guru too.

    • Chief Hokie

      Getting Geno or whoever and nabbing Wilson in the second would be ideal. Hasselback could work too. I’d love to give Mike Vick a shot if he gets cut or traded.

      • Danny W

        I’d love to have half of what Mike Vick has to offer on this football team. We could have had him at one point for five million but we didn’t take a shot on him. :-(

        • Chief Hokie

          Yea I remember I was one of the “crazies” who wanted him desperately to come to KC but he was seen as too “risky.” The Eagles basically got him for nothing, those lucky bird turds.

          • KCMikeG

            I know we are getting desperate at QB but Vick?? He has been sub 60% completion percentage last year and this year, he has 9 TD with 8 picks & NINE fumbles. Sorry but we are all full up on turnovers round here. I do like Smith and Wilson but can we afford to neglect our OL until the 3rd round?

          • Chief Hokie

            I’m thinking of Vick more as a 1 year stop gap, but yes his turnovers are a concern, I get your beef there. I just think he’d be an exciting addition. Just imagine Vick, JC, and Dex all on the field at the same time…sounds good in theory at least. And fair point about the OL, I agree it needs attention, but free agency could help alot in that dept.

          • Chief Hokie

            Although I guess you could argue that the Vick+McCoy+Desean combo is pretty similar and should be more effective than it is.

          • KCMikeG

            I’m of the school of going for two QB’s this year. Vick could be one of our considerations for the veteran back up QB if Cassel isn’t around. Problem is I don’t think either one would be a good mentor/teacher as far as mechanics and protecting the ball. Cassel would be a great mentor as far as inspiring effort and being a great team player. Vick could teach a running QB what not to do as far as taking hits and turning over the ball. I’m hoping for something better for the veteran presence next year. Any ideas? I don’t see anything in the FA pool at QB that excites me.

          • KCMikeG

            Mims is so big and surprisingly quick on his feet in camp but can’t seem to get with the program mentally. He finds himself not being where he needs to be and then is caught out of position. Have watched smaller guys with better position/leverage just walk him back into the QB/RB. Not sure how effective our OL coaching is do you? We have already had such a fruit basket upset that it is hard to tell what we should do. We don’t really know what we have in Allen and Hudson (although Hudson was looking promising to me). Allen struggled badly and now will loose half the year. Stephenson has struggled too and Asamoah hasn’t improved as much as I expected this year either. Winston has slipped which is confusing since it was Daboll’s zone blocking scheme that attracted him here. Lilja is a great guy and a trooper but he is done just like Casey. Just too small to compete with the behemoths on the DL’s these days after they loose their quickness to age. So I have to believe a center would be tops on our OL wish list. We have to pay Albert as he is the only one we can count on right now. Wow our OL was ranked #2 going into the dolt game?? With all the injuries, negative run plays and 2 QB’s knocked out it must have been Charles huge runs that make them look so good.

          • Chief Hokie

            Yea the OL coach needs to be replaced, and I am a bit concerned over Asamoah – the kid can run block he’s not great in pass protection. I’m not as worried about Jeff Allen he has showed some flashes, I think he has potential. Stephenson is a joke at this point he is not ready to start. I agree a center should be our biggest priority, so maybe get the best center available in the second round and maybe pick up a veteran center in FA. There is a lot of work to be done.

          • Danny W

            Good points Mike. I agree with Hokie maybe just a one year thing. We do need line help like in a major way. Would still love to see Mimms play some at guard. How did he do in camp?

  • Norman Gunn

    I am still in shock about this season. I will agree that I would love to see two Draft additions for QB to the team. Remember Andy Dalton was a second rounder and I think he is going to have a strong 15 year career. If the next Ray Lewis is available I wouldn’t mind going with him first pick and then grabbing a Dalton earlier second round (Landry maybe). Either way I think we need a nasty middle line backer like a Lewis, Urlacher, or even Von Miller.

    • Norman Gunn

      Wow, talking about this really helps with the football depression.

    • Cha-iefs

      Youre looking for Manti Te’o MLB at Notre Dame. He can bring the BOOM! 245lbs big hitter, good hands, aggressive pursuit. He’d Look nice playing next to DJ. Replace belcher. Jovan works hard but doesnt have the beef to get it done.

      • Danny W

        Te’o is a freak, but I only want him if we’ve selected a quarterback first. That said I would absolutely love to have him. He could be our quarterback and missing link thats a good leader on defense. I’d wouldn’t mind trading DBowe to get him somehow plus another pick. Maybe even Bowe and 2014′s first rounder for Te’o.

    • http://twitter.com/brad_quirk26 Brad Quirk

      Hell no to Landry (coming from a Sooner) but if we want to go the early 2nd round for a QB I’d go with Bray. But I’m not too confident with that route

    • Jonathan Aldridge

      we have hali, johnson, and houston is on the rise. we r good at LB.

      • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

        Not as long as we are playing a 3-4 we’re not. Still need a strong inside LB

        • Jonathan Aldridge

          derrick johnson is the inside LB and he leads the team in tackles

          • William Campbell

            So is Belcher…. Yo yo tyle player

  • tm1946

    Missing a point – BIG TIME. The person with input on this pick will be PIOLI. What a disaster. He cannot find talent if it came with a bell around their necks.
    Nationally media says no reason to fire Pioli now, today. No one unless they do not have job currently can even be talked to. Most GM candidate types will not be available until after the draft. Coaching similarily after each team’s season ends, unless they do not have jobs today.
    We are so screwed, Pioli will impact this team for 3-5 years and there is not a thing we can do about it. Assuming Clark is EVEN planning of firing him.

    • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

      I don’t know how you arrived at your statement that most GM candidates are not available until after the draft. If you recall we got Pioli long before that and he was gainfully employed as are most of them. You simply have to ask permission to talk to them and most teams grant that request.

      • William Campbell

        Yoi also have to wait till the season is over

  • Bizoza

    Geno doesn’t seem proven, and we all know USC QBs so its a hard sell on this one. Its almost as if the Chiefs are always going to get shafted on drafting a franchise QB because they just can’t suck it up enough in the years that the good ones come out of College. Geno has only played against horrible to ok defenses, and hasn’t shown much. He strikes me as a Ryan Fitzpatrick type, and Barkley seems like he is playing at a decent level, but there is just too much doubt to the NFL transition. Everyone wants the franchise QB so bad that I doubt the Chiefs can pass up drafting a first round QB so we are pretty much stuck with the crummy options. At this point, it would be worth it to maybe stockpile some draft picks with a trade or whatever, and pick someone up 3rd round. Not sure who we would pick up in the 2014 draft, but there are a few names, and maybe some will rise at that point.

    • Norman Gunn

      Great points. I just watched a bit of Youtube game film of both QB and neither one will not be the next Peyton or Tom. I hope a dark horse is someone playing in college..

    • Ribs61

      I saw a mock draft where KC was the only team to take a QB in the first round…because we are desperate. They said the QB’s are not very good this year and should last into the late first/early second. Even if we take a QB with our pick we may still have trouble next year.

  • Doc

    It really doesn’t matter who the pick is first or second, without a quality coaching staff, the player(s) pick(ed) will languish and be non-productive. We still have two drafted QBs on the roster that we know nothing about – Stanzi and ‘Trick Shot’ Tanney. Do they get jettisoned before the draft? Waht makes us think drafting a QB first and/or second will improve this team? They are but one player and they will need coaches that can bring out their skills et and call the correct plays. Sorry, but as long as Pioli is runnnig the ship, this is not going to improve by drafting Smith or Barkley.

    • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

      Well you are one of the few people on the planet that think that way. It is clear that the one missing piece to this team is at QB. It is a simple math problem. Take the turnovers that Cassel is responsible for and this season’s win/loss record looks much different.

  • AZKCFan

    This is exactly why we should have made a move and trade D.Bowe. Not because we want to see him go but because it would have given us another 2nd rounder or 3rd. We could then go after Jarvis Jones with the first pick (get rid of Dorsey/Tin Man), take a QB at beginning of 2nd round (Jones/Wilson) or worst case move back into the first with the extra pick. We need a new QB for sure but we also need to move away from the 3-4 and upgrade significantly our defense. We can pretty much count out all FA’s this year so everything has to be done through the draft

    • Spencer

      yea but with a 4-3 our defense gets a lot better imo, Hali would be a great de, hell he WAS a great DE when he played opposite Allen-a guy underrated for giving his work ethic to Hali IMO, Dorsey was supposed to a 4-3 DT, hell if we didn’t switch defenses on him he might have ammouted to that 1st rnd pick, Poe would be the run stuffing DT, Houston could stay at OLB-he has underrated coverage abilities-not great but underrated IMO, draft another defensive end in the 2nd round to get that other blitzing defensive end we need, Houston would be our designated extra pass rusher, and boom we look good imo, than just have to fix up the opposite side of Flowers defensively….

      i say hire the ex eagles defensive coach either as our head coach, defensive coach, or offensive line/defensive line coach-he coached the offensive line before he moved to the defensive side of the ball

  • AZKCFan

    And put Berry back at Safety not wondering around doing nothing.

  • Cha-iefs

    Im not buying hype about either QB. Gino Smith looks like a Vince Young to me. Nice numbers at the start of the season…..against some weak Def too!! Texas Tech & K state was another story. Gino who? Klein looked good in that game bcuz Gino looked so bad. He’s [Klein] nothing more than another tim tebow. His WRs make him look amazing! Not impressed with Gino’s hype. Mike vick, mcnabb,V.Young, soon to be RG3 and Cam Newton….all these QB’s are just flashes in the pan. You’ll never get a dynasty from any of them. Just ticket sales and maybe a playoff win here & there. P. Manning, Tom Brady,Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning,Steve Young, Troy Ak…you know what, the list is too long, i’ll stop there, [soon to be Andrew Luck] These are QBs that are dynasty worthy. I’m not looking for a “Gino Smith” QB. I want KC to draft a QB but idk who even comes close to fitting a dynasty mould. I’ll settle for 70% though.

    • Dave in SD

      So basically you don’t like black quaterbacks? What a shame people still think like you……….

      • Cha-iefs

        Why do people like YOU always bring race into everything? Where did I make my comment about race? It’s a shame YOU think like that. I’m Black asshole

        • Dave in SD

          What common trait do the “flashes in the pan” have? What common trait do the stars have? I would argue that Mcnabb and Vick at one point were top tier QBs and to judge Cam (Set rookie records) and RG3 in less then 2 seasons is crazy. Luck has similar numbers yet you throw him into the soon to be a star category. Your color doesn’t matter to me, it’s the stereotype you are perpetuating, even if not on purpose.

          • Cha-iefs

            Why? bcuz my QB preference isn’t a mobile QB? I like a pocket QB. I admire the way Manning reads and studies a D. makes adjustments at the line. I admire how Brady runs his No hudle Offense. Why is it racist that I named moblie QBs vs pocket QBs? I all of the sudden am white and “hate black QBs.” thats some BS! You looked into it and saw what you wanted to see! Not everyone that comments is white. Not everyone that is black is only allowed to admire black QBs. So steve young is a moblie QB but he has super bowls! How many does Vick and Mcnabb have? Top tier QBs? Notice i didn’t put Dan Marino on my list? Good QB but no dynasty! Get off my sack with youre BS racsit sh-t! You read what you wanted to read and applied your own interpretation. Stereotypes? What I listed pocket QBs & mobile QBs,you cast your own stereotype! SMH

          • KoolAid

            You are talking about two of the best QBs of this era. You can admire all you want but what does that get you nothing. The reality of the situation is you have to be really lucky to get one of those QBs. To discount (double check) what Mcnabb or Vick did for their franchise is retard( no offense cause we know you actually are). If you look at the leagues landscape most QBs are mobile. Run first no, but mobile in the sense that they can get out the pocket and create plays.

          • KCMikeG

            Hilarious. Your attempt to insult Cha-iefs is pathetic. You can’t even use the right word (retarded not retard) when trying to put someone else down. Besides the fact that it is small minded to use the word in the first place.

          • Dave in SD

            So you would like Cam and RG3 if they won superbowls and wouldn’t like Luck if he doesn’t? It’s a new era and the qb position is changing. You like white pocket QBs and a running white QB that have won superbowls (Your list not mine). You also like Luck I’m guessing because he reads defenses? RG3 reads defenses too and isn’t a running QB (he can run) but you don’t like him. Insult me and accuse me of what you will but if you communicate poorly it’s not my fault and it seems a lot of people took it the same way I did.

          • Cha-iefs

            more people took it the same way you did?

          • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

            Ditto

          • William Campbell

            I agree I like a pocket qb too

          • KCMikeG

            You can argue their level of success all you want but you are the one that brought race into the conversation based on your own “reading between the lines” Sherlock.

          • Dave in SD

            So you believe it was just a coincidence? Still not understanding why insults are being thrown. Can we pretend to be adults?

          • KCMikeG

            I agree the insults are unacceptable and incase you haven’t noticed he is getting them back. Being called a racist is a grave insult no matter your race but to be called a racist against his own race is likely to evoke anger and return insults. I believe it was a coincidence as he clearly said Klein was another Tebow and is made to look good by his WR’s. YOU overlooked that Klein is white but fits the running inclined QB’s who have mostly struggled in the NFL. So for you to bring race into the discussion when he was clearly talking football makes you the party at fault. An apology would be entirely appropriate.

          • Dave in SD

            I didn’t call him racist so I have nothing to apologize for. I don’t know the dude and responded with information to back up my thoughts. It’s a blog, with opinions, I would hope feelings aren’t hurt.

          • KCMikeG

            “So basically you don’t like black quaterbacks? What a shame people still think like you……….” YOUR words Dave. If that isn’t calling him a racist or at least prejudiced then I don’t know what is. On top of the fact YOU overlooked that he didn’t like Klein who is white but fits the running inclined QB’s he doesn’t like who have mostly struggled in the NFL. Let your conscience be your guide. Enough said.

          • Dave in SD

            Racist is different then prejudice and the fact that he compared Klein to Tebow doesn’t change anything in my opinion. It’s a blog with opinions and I’ve attempted to explain my thought process without insults and ask for his. If you blame me for the reactions of others then that’s fine, it’s your opinion and has no effect on my feelings. All I can do is explain my side. We will all post again and I will continue to have opinions and enjoy the conversations.

          • KCMikeG

            One last pass at this and then I will move on to more productive endeavors. I am aware there is a difference which is why I stated the racism as the worse offense believing you are superior by your race vs prejudiced which is judging w/o the facts. You definitely approached racism by saying he doesn’t like “black QB’s? What a shame people still think like you”. YOU made the race statement even though his example of Klein negates any argument supporting racism. Yes he directly compared Klein to Tebow which proves nothing – except that he also grouped them both in with all of the other run inclined QB’s, who just happened to be black, that he believes either weren’t or won’t be successful in the NFL. YOUR prejudice caused you to overlook his point of pocket passers are more successful – especially in Super Bowl victories over run inclined ones. YOU invent an unsubstantiated suggestion of him not liking black QB’s.

          • Cha-iefs

            Wow Mike! Well said. I agree, this has consumed way too much time. He made a mistake and could of deleted his OG response [So, you don't like black QBs",etc..] to my OG comment….. or admitted he misconstrued my OG comment. I have no idea what his motives were in all this! I’m over it.

          • Dave in SD

            The problem is he listed mobile QBs in his list of stars, so if we take 1 point to dismiss like you are doing with Klein, then I will do the same and say his love of pocket QBs is invalid listing both Steve Young and Luck (Extemely mobile also). He also made a mobile blanket statement for the black QBs when Cam set passing records, McNabb and RG3 are pass first QBs (That’s my issue). I understand where you are trying to go but it doen’t hold up with his statements. I apprecitate the respect you’ve shown and dialogue. I don’t think my original statement is as far fetched as you are making it out to be. It’s an opinion and I didn’t expect it to please everyone. It should have brought a simple discussion about a real issue that has been discussed by others.The problem is it was fanned into a racism issue and that shouldn’t have been the case. Was that my fault? Yes. I asked plenty of follow up questions to Cha-iefs to show where I was coming from and to see his point of view. I’ve been given plenty of opportunities to reply with insults or get upset but it doesn’t affect me like that, I truly am interested in the thought process and the whys. It’s just a chat with a lot of opinions. I don’t believe he is a racist. I know I didn’t make any friends with this post but I hope you and Cha-iefs continue to post. I will choose my words more careful next time. Cheers

        • Norman Gunn

          You can be black and still have a racially biased opinion.

          • Cha-iefs

            yea i get that but he brought up race. I listed mobile QBs and pocket QBs read on down the comments my man.

        • tc-sting

          No, you are not black

        • micah stephenson

          You aint black. A black guy wudnt even had said he dont like those QBs. If u r black, u must b Carlton off of the fresh prince of bel.

          • Cha-iefs

            Why? Because I form sentences and spell correctly? I can’t be black? You need to educate yourself fake ass 50 cent. Calling me Carlton because I intimidate you. A educated black man. I wouldn’t expect that stereotyping from a brotha. Keep yourself down but stay outta my way.

      • micah stephenson

        Lol. Yea he dont like black QBs. Luck can scramble too, y he aint on the list? Cus he is a WHITE scrambling QB. All those white pocket passers you named said they WISH they cud run like a RG3 or Newton. U behind the times. Lol

        • Cha-iefs

          Thats what they meant when talking about Andrew Luck and that he is “the most NFL-ready of all the draft-eligible quarterback prospects to come out in years.”?? His running ability?? lol. He moves like rodgers to buy time but his style is way different then a “mobile QB” . Tebow,Vick,Newton etc. Look at old film of guys from the 60′s 70′s. It was a run for your life ,or buy time just like Andrew & Rodgers do. Not a ,” I can run it in for a TD from 10 yards out. Or a designed run play from 4 yards out in the RZ. Newton, Collin Klein,RG3,Tebow,Vick etc. Maybe they’d be better served if I called those guys scrambling/rushing QBs. I DON’T agree the times have changed and now all of the sudden QBs are moving around to buy time. Go educate yourself. they played football games before the 2000′s. It was happening in the 60′s 70′s and 80′s too. Don’t act like buying time in the pocket and extending the play is new. Thats different then scrambling down field for 20 yards like Vick,RG3,Teboew etc. Checkmate, Now get off my nutz.

    • Cha-iefs

      I’d take Barkley for KC’s first pick. Thats the best long term investment between Gino and Matt.

      • KoolAid

        You are an idiot. Not just cause you are a chief fan just because you know nothing about football and you are commenting on it. Is this Pioli blogging. Have you watched any college football this year. Barkley could not even lead his team to a victory over a terrible Arizona team. You are a silly joke

        • Cha-iefs

          we all idiots for being Chiefs fans, huh? why you here if youre not a Chiefs fan? Get lost Donkey fake ass raider charger punk ass troll.

          • KoolAid

            Sorry im not sorry, I like to read and browse opponents blogs for loser fans that are idiots to pick on. You can tell by your name your sweeter than my koolaid.

          • KCMikeG

            Again with the name calling. All it does is reflect on your limited mental capacity to not be able to argue your point w/o calling names. Buy a dictionary and grow up. And while you’re at it get a life and a hobby other than internet bully troll.

          • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

            Ouch!

        • Jonathan Aldridge

          i know it’s hard, but use correct punctuation on questions ok?

    • tc-sting

      Another racist trying to hide behind subtle attacks. Awesome, please go be a fan for someone else, thanks. I’ll take Vick,Young, McNabb, RG3 and Cam Newton over our current Chiefs QBs any day. And anyone with any football sense an no racial bias would do the same.

      • KcNdaRock

        Micah ur the 1 that was talking shit to every1 hating on cassel and now u hating on him.. get real what a joke..

        • micah stephenson

          I aint hating. Im jus keeping it real. My bad if its hating

    • Ribs61

      I’m not ready to write off Geno yet…or draft him yet. I agree with you to an extent. What I like about Manning, Brady, Rodgers is their ability to read a defense and take advantage of weakness in their scheme. To me, staying in the pocket or scrambling has less to do with it than the ability to read and react. Find me the next guy that can do that and I am on board.

      • Cha-iefs

        well said, but apparently thats racist.

        • Dave in SD

          Again based off of your statements I think you have a bias towards black QBs. I never insulted you like you did me. I never reacted in an angry manner like you did. I never was interested in your skin color because it has nothing to do with any of my points. You also never answered my question about RG3, Cam and Luck (So you would like Cam and RG3 if they won superbowls and wouldn’t like Luck if he doesn’t?). The game has seen an increase in athleticism across the board including the QB position. RG3 can be argued as the best QB of last years draft based on intelligence, completion percentage and play making ability. You classify him as a running QB. Why? Cam set a rookie record for PASSING yards yet you say he’s a running QB. Why? McNabb never won a title but think of how hard it is to lead a team to as many playoffs, NFC championships and a superbowl (against a team that cheated) as he did staying in the pocket most of the time. Even if it wasn’t your intention you listed only black QBs as flash in the pans/running QBs and white QBs as your franchise leaders even though you listed a running white QB. I didn’t make it up. I also would never ask you a question if I wasn’t interested in an honest answer……….

          • Cha-iefs

            “So basically you don’t like black quaterbacks? What a shame people still think like you……….”
            YOU wrote that comment that started ALL this.
            YOU. That’s your response to my Org. comment. YOU need to explain YOURSELF and stop asking me for mine.
            If you can’t find anything wrong in what you typed in response to my 1st comment; that YOU perceived as racist…then you may need some serious help. If YOU weren’t trying to insinuate I was a racist then why did you use ,”You don’t like [black QBs]” ?…. You dug yourself a huge hole and now are looking for my respect to get out of it? keep looking.

            *I think this sundays colts game sums up my opinion on Cam vs Andrew Luck. I’m done playing your games,please stop commenting to me and move on. You won’t be getting anymore of my attention. *I’m over you and your outrageous myopic accusations!*

          • [email protected]

            What about Doug Williams he was a runing QB that won a superbowl?

          • Cha-iefs

            Sorry that I didn’t go through and compile a list of every single QB that has played in the NFL. That was a blowout SB too… HAHA Donkeys!

          • Dave in SD

            I’m confused again, am I suppose to respond or not? In your most recent post you say I need to explain, then later, you say please stop commenting.

          • Cha-iefs

            Bcuz you’re a idiot [yeah im insulting you]… After you insinuated I was a racist.

            You need to go back and re-read all the comments again, from the start and do some soul searching. You’re back peddling now so hard i can smell the smoke! “What, who me? I didn’t say youre racist!? All I said is, so, you don’t like black QBs?” Thats racist!!! You brought race into it right away, your very first comment! You didn’t read into anything else.

            Then you commented later what you saw common in the QBs I listed, and you STILL only viewed them BY RACE!. Yeah, stop asking for me to explain myself, youre wasting my time and i’m asking you to stop filling my mailbox with comment responses. Clearly you see nothing wrong with what you said and it’s not my job to correct all the assholes in the world! Again, another insult bcuz i think you revealed enough about your character to justifiably conclude youre a P.O.S. or a myopic game playing asshole. Probably both. You had the opportunity to apologize and own up to YOURE OWN WORDS easily read if you go back, and admit your fault. Needless to say you’ve wasted enough of my time.
            Confused? The only comment you need to send is a apology and you’re sorry for all this and you didn’t mean to insinuate I was a racist by saying ,”So,basically you don’t like black Qbs?” You can even put that as a response to that comment you made! Tell the whole community your error and that your sorry. I cleary didn’t type anything about race in my OG comment, you made the wrong interpretation and god only knows what your motives were?!?!? …Soul searching,try it.

          • Dave in SD

            You are a confusing person. The comments are unclear. You say you like pocket qbs but list some mobile qbs. You then group pocket qbs with mobile in your other list. You tell me to respond but not respond. If you followed the conversation between you and Me it would be much more clear then it appears it is right now.You seem to be too upset to listen to what I say. There is a difference between racist and prejudice. I’ve read other posts by you and think you seem like a great football fan and I have no issue with you. I understand it’s much easier to say on this side because you feel like your character has been attacked. For anyone who read this post, I DO NOT THINK CHA-IEFS IS RACIST. I think there is an issue with black qbs being sterotyped as running qbs and unable to do Peyton Manning like things. If I was wrong classifying you as that then I was wrong. I understand the history of football and that a traditional pocket QB is a preference for some. The problem is we have never seen an athlete the size of Cam play QB (Ben Roethlisberger is who I would compare him to but he’s much quicker) and the intelligence/playmaking ability of RG3 (Steve Young with world class speed). I would take either on the Chiefs right now! I know I didn’t make a friend with my original post but you live and learn. I’ll choose my words more careful next time. Cheers………

    • wolverinehusky

      Umm…not sure if you got the memo, but Steve Young was one of the most mobile QBs in NFL history (and has the rushing yards and TDs to prove it). What an ignorant statement. John Elway was mobile as well (and Fran Tarkenton).

    • Jonathan Aldridge

      geno isnt a scrambling qb. he is a good pocket passer and can run when he needs to. qbs run a lot more in college than the pros so just remember that, too. now i dont think hes racist, he just named off scrambling qbs that are busts or will probably turn into a bust. but all the chiefs need is a qb that is more accurate than what we have now, doesnt turn the ball over as often, and makes good decisions down the field. thats when our offense can show off their true potential.

      • Cha-iefs

        Congrats! you watched the WVU game saturday and listened to the announcers say that about Geno, i know he doesn’t want that label, but i’m not buying it. I think he’s overrated and if you look close, he threw 4+ INTs that game too. He was very lucky he got away with so much. He also got credit for 2 TDs he shouldn’t have. #1 was a prayer that is a INT i say he got lucky on. #2 was that jet sweep play for 40+ yrds. That was counted as a pass. So tat considered, i’d say he’s struggling bad vs competitive D’s. We can agree to disagree. I’m not buying Geno’s hype & that he is a “good pocket passer”. I respect your view and agree with other points you made. good comment overall and about KC.

        • Jonathan Aldridge

          i didnt even watch the game but i know he didnt throw 4 picks, his total picks this year is only 3.

          • Cha-iefs

            You completely missed what I said. I said if you look close he threw 4+ picks. So basically you commenting off stats and not actually game “film” ? Can’t do that man, lol.

    • Robert Mccall

      Clearly you picked every big name recent black QB to s**t on with your list. The only thing in they have in common is their skin color. Here goes…

      Cam is only in his second year and was the #1 pick for a reason to a team that is worse than the chiefs are currently regarding roster, coaching, and ownership. RG III is amazing and both are breaking records. It is simply ridiculous to write them off in year 1 or 2. One of them, if not both, will almost surely win a Superbowl but neither shows anything but excellence on the field and particularly in the pocket.

      Steve Young sat for years like Rogers did within organizations that were at the top of the league while they were on the bench and behind guys that were arguably the greatest ever. Aikman had the greatest CB ever, all time RB, hall of fame linemen,hall of fame WR, hall of fame LB, hall of fame coach, and future hall of fame owner.

      Brady is good but the true greatness is Belichick (See career of Superbowl winning Cassel, Crennel, Mangione, Pioli, Wiess, and many others post Belichick). Peyton is the truth period. Eli is his brother, duh, and plays for a team that has a serious history of winning with a coach that is great.

      Mcnabb went to multiple NFC Championships and a Superbowl. Vick lost 2 years in his prime. Vince Young is just an idiot and has nothing in common with anyone else you mentioned. Oh except he has one of the best winning records of any QB in history according to winning percentage.

      Your argument is weak in that you do not mention the actual things that the so called “winners” had in common and you link the “losers” together where you do not mention the relevant similarities or lack thereof (really poor organizations, actually have not lost – just started record breaking careers, in some cases they had very above average winning stats.

      As coach Ditka might exclaim on ESPN’s NFL Monday Night Show…Come on Man!!! or are you really Uncle Rukus incognito?

  • Chief Hokie

    Panthers will win some more games, did you see the way played CHI @ CHI? They are very underrated. My only worry is that if KC gets the second pick and JAC somehow gets the first, I could see someone trading up ahead of us and stealing the best QB option.

    Also, do you think JAC would draft a QB with their pick? I never thought Gabbert would amount to anything but he has shown flashes this year. If they are planning on drafting our guy (who everyone knows is Geno), we should probably trade up and get the #1 pick.

    • Norman Gunn

      Panther fans have forgotten that they only won one game before drafting Newton. Now all of a sudden there is a large question mark on his head. The only QB i’ve seen not have a second year slump is Manning. Cam will turn it around and they will not draft a QB.

      Gabbert looked like an NFL QB last game

  • Philip Skahan

    I’m not sold on either one…quite frankly with our pathetic offensive line, you could put johnny unitas back there and it wouldn’t make a difference

  • Spencer

    Geno smith all the way, USC qbs never do anything, he has an arm, he’s the best nfl prospect at the QB position by far, klein is a college Tebow type qb…just better at the qb and worse at the rb spot,

    Fire Crennel, get rid of this coaching staff that is for sure, don’t let Geno have to go through what Cassel has had to go through with this terrible coaching staff, Cassel still isn’t a good qb, might not even be a good backup qb…but he has had no help by the rest of this team, and a lot of that comes from the coaches just not knowing how to prepare an nfl football team,

    Maybe look at ex Eagles defensive coach to be our new Head coach? guy has succeed when coaching both sides of the ball, looked like a future head coach if it isn’t for Reid firing a guy for doing a goo job on defense, unlike the offense for the Eagles…

    than just find a good offensive coordinator-maybe Norv Turner if he is let go after this season and build from there, no ex head coaches who are now espn guys for me imo, they arn’t coaching for a reason, they were either fired or don’t have the heart for it anymore………..

  • Daniel Mayfield

    Geno for sure. Good with his legs and his deep throws. Just don’t pick 1 and put him on the bench. That’s not the way to make a “franchise QB”. Get him on the field. He’s not gonna learn from Cassel. Get a new and stronger HC to make them work harder

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742030300 Ryan Mais

      also a good OC and a vetetan QB he can learn from

  • tc-sting

    Geno Smith all the way.

  • disqus_cxcuYTzkUF

    Geno with Chip Kelly as head coach please.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M7T7OBG3TJKSQ26BOABK66CAPI Bruce

    Great…last yr it was Luck or RG, this year it’s Barfy or Smith. Bad luck, man.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M7T7OBG3TJKSQ26BOABK66CAPI Bruce

    Barkley will be an NFL bust. Typical USC QB who can’t function when the line breaks down.

    • Alex

      30 TD’s is not functioning? I hate USC, but the guy is a good quarterback and definitely better than any of the previous USC QB’s coming into the draft.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bryan.a.oconnor Bryan Andrew O’connor

      Typical USC Qb? really? Because you and I BOTH would take the career that Carson Palmer has had in Cinncinnatti and Oakland in KC………..

  • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

    From what I have seen so far this year I like both Smith and Barkley, but also am high on Tyler Wilson from Arkansas. I have no doubt that we will get one of them come draft day, but in the meantime Pioli needs to go now, so the new GM can get his team of coaches in place

    • Billy Bob

      You got it Big Jim

  • Brandon Mecham

    Smith. We need someone who can get out of that death trap they call a pocket.

  • http://www.facebook.com/CellySale Celly Beck

    I’m to the point where i dont want to have this great pick and take a geno smith per say just because i just dont see a matt cassel repeat. OMG please no barkley, for some reason these usc nfl qbs are begginging to make me dislike the college in itself. I would feel much much much more comfortable with the razorback. Tyler wilson. what do you guys feel about him?

    • Jonathan Aldridge

      rusty, we cant afford the risk.

      • http://twitter.com/aharp31 Big Jim

        What risk?

      • William Campbell

        They all come with risks

  • Lyle Graversen

    My short 2 cents on the QB options:

    Geno Smith: The most physically gifted QB by far. Strong arm, good accuracy, good athleticism. I worry about his attitude. His work ethic is suppose to be great, but he turned into a “sulker” in both games where the team came out and shut him down early. Instead of rallying his troops he just kind of accepted defeat. That worries me coming to this team that is used to losing and short on leaders. He’s got the ability to lead us to the Super Bowl, but does he have the resolve?

    Matt Barkley: The least physically gifted of the 1st round guys. He doesn’t have the strongest arm or great athleticism, but he has already run an NFL style offense and has shown the ability to read defenses and go through progressions (something we haven’t seen much of since Trent Green). I think he’ll be a solid NFL starter, probably the safest pick of the 1st round guys, but has limited “star QB” upside for an early 1st round pick.

    Tyler WIlson: I love his attitude. Go to youtube and find the clips of him venting about them getting blown out while he was injured. He says things like “I will do everything in my power to get this fixed.” and “That won’t be accepted here.” He sounds like the leader we need. He’s got a pretty strong arm and before his couch got ran out of town and his WRs all graduated he looked just as good as the other two. The problem? He’s missed games twice in the last year and a half for head/concussion injuries. In today’s NFL that’s a major red flag and makes him a gamble to invest an early 1st round pick in him as the team’s future at QB.

    So basically, there are things I like about all three guys, but they all have concerns as well. Geno is a freak, but I worry about his attitude if times are tough. Barkley could walk in week one and start no problem, good leader and field vision, but limited upside. WIlson is the guy I want leading my team, but he’s one Eric Winston whiff away from possibly being out indefinitely.

    • KcNdaRock

      Sorry to say but Barkley will always b labeled as a USC quarterback.. Wilson is a tough country boy like farve.. Yea it’s way to early to even compare him to farve but I’ve Bn watching him for 3 yrs now and he is the real deal promise ya..like u said his YouTube videos sum it up for him he’s passionate and a gamer.. We could argue about this till April I imagine lol.. Im afraid of a Todd blackledge all over again.. No matter what we wouldn’t reach for Wilson and I think Barkley would b a reach for a noodle arm and smith I haven’t heard of till this year ..

  • Lyle Graversen

    Also, I have no problem with people saying they don’t want Barkley, but don’t just say it’s because he’s a USC quarterback. They used to say the same thing about the Cal QBs under Tedford. This one QB even fell all the way to the late first round because of fears he was a system guy. I think Green Bay might have taken him. What was his name……….?

    • Jonathan Aldridge

      ingle martin? lol

    • William Campbell

      Tanney is undrafted more of a afterthought really

  • http://twitter.com/skymuscle83 Skylor Kingrey

    smith or Barkley?? Just sucks that the year we are really bad there aren’t any really good QB’s coming out this year!!! it pisses me off that the chiefs spent all that money on Cassel and I called he was going to suck!! IDK just pisses me off. No really good quality QB’s coming out. just hope someone can really show something good and be and unexpected quality one!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.c.panzarella Leo C. Panzarella

    I don’t like neither of these qb’s , we need a new offensive coordinator and head coach … If i can tell u exactly what were gonna do every play I’m sure the opposition knows as well . If we do get a qb the only quality i care about is poise ….

  • grip

    matt is only 6 feet or 6 ft one……..as well,

  • Billy Bob

    We need EVERYTHING! The point is, we need a new qb whoever the best one available is ( you want Cassell, Quinn, etc?) We need a gm, hc, oc, and dc. Whoever we go with, we have to go get em and go with em. GO CHIEFS!!! BTW I say go Smith or Wilson. No to Barclay

  • KcNdaRock

    Forget Barkley.. USC doesn’t have a good track record.. I really believe the only 1 in the draft is Wilson he’s tough.. I wouldn’t b mad if we went Oline or a mlb thats a hitter to compliment poe and dj 1st then move up late in the 1st and grab Wilson

  • Rocky

    I think they should take Geno Smith but if they can’t get Geno then i hope they take that Glennon guy from NC State.

  • Dmal2026

    What do you guys think of this idea? Trade Bowe since he probably won’t resign for lets say a 2nd rounder. Then, in the first round draft that LB from notre dame or Justin Hunter that WR from Tenn. Draft a QB like Tyler Wilson early in the second round or even Logan Thomas or Tyler Bray (Hunter’s QB). I feel like this will help out the Chiefs in very big ways. I agree with what i heard in the comments below that neither of these guys are franchise QB’s. I think Wilson, Thomas, or Bray are and they can be taking in the second round.

    • Dmal2026

      Just really liking the sounds of DJ/Manti Te’o or Baldwin/Hunter

    • Chief Hokie

      Logan Thomas unfortunately is remaining at Va Tech for his senior year, and I’m not so sure Tyler Wilson will be available in the second. Maybe he will, but its a huge risk considering our desperation for a QB at this point.

    • charles williams

      any part of this draft that doesn’t end with us taking a QB in the first rd is crap. Honor the position and quit trying to get by cheap.

    • Jonathan Aldridge

      we dont need a linebacker, a 2nd round pick wide receiver is more logical since there is a lot more good WRs than QBs that go to the draft every year.

  • tm1946

    If Pioli is still GM, no one in the MO-KAN area is drafting a QB early, not the NE way. You, guys, have been waiting since the break for Clark to fire someone – no one fired yet. Clark seem content with what he has in management.

  • Jonathan Aldridge

    Gotta get Smith. USC QBs will do well in their first few seasons, then they will slack off. Guess what college Matt Cassel went to? USC. I’m surprised no one else mentioned that. Carson Palmer has hit a major decline, though he is doing efficiently this year. We all know all the crap Mark Sanchez is getting right now. Geno Smith, with the right coaching (so we know what needs to happen), could turn into something like a Warren Moon. Now I don’t wanna bring race into this, but Moon is really the only non-scrambling black QB to ever play in the pros, and look at how good he did. So if you ask me, Smith is the right pick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bryan.a.oconnor Bryan Andrew O’connor

    Barkley, 100000%, Geno Smith, like you said has put up gaudy numbers, but against who exactly? EASTWESTNORTHSOUTH Alaska State, that’s who, look at what he’s done in Big 12 play, not much, and NOONE has ever utter the words “boy those Big 12 teams are defensively stacked……” Throwing for 450 yards against Marshall. James Madison and Maryland in wins proves NOTHING to me and is nowhere NEAR the same as throwing 350 in a lose against Stanford and Arizona and a win against Utah……… Smith while yes may be more atheletic, but the same was said about Vick (who is a decent Qb but nowehere NEAR what they thought he would be) and Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf, Tyler Wilson isn’t even the best Qb in the State of Arkansas, Ryan Applin (Arkansas State) is, not many people realize that he was statistically the #2 returning CFB Qb from 2011 to 2012, is he a 1st round pick? no absolutely not, a third round at best I think but like Barkely he has played in a “pro style” offense for the last 4 years. Geno Smith will be a flash in the pan at best in the NFL, you don’t draft a Francise Qb #1 or #2 over all for a 3-4 years, a Francise Qb is someone who plays 8-10 years minimum.

  • William Campbell

    Depends on who the coach and oc are next year…. With the proper staff in place I think Smith could be a great qb

  • Alexis

    Draft Monta Taeio and use 33rd pick or trade up to grab Landry Jones,

  • Ganjamancer

    I’ve been high on Barkley for 4 years, USC’s defense and running game are the problem with USC this year. Barkley is a leader and I really like his ability to throw into tight windows especially medium to long passes. I think Smith is better in the short game but I worry that his ceiling is Mark Brunell or David Garrard. Regardless they should take 2 quarterbacks. Barkley or Smith then preferably Bray or Glennon depending on how the combine sorts them out. Jimmie Johnson did that in Dallas and it worked out pretty good. I like Wilson too but no matter how you press it he ends up going 3rd.