How Long Can The Chiefs Pay Tyson Jackson?

I just want everyone to remember. Two years ago..EVERYBODY wanted to dump..Derrick Johnson..It was said he was a wasted first round pick..Demorrio Williams beat him out for the starting spot...Now look. Be careful what you wish for..it might be a possibility these coaches know football a little better than YOU!!

He made significant strides this year. A year with no off season. This upswing in play was all on him. I think it showed how hard he wanted it. He should be given one more year with a full training regimen and coaching. This is a discussion we should have at the end of next year after a full offseason of training. If he does not improve, dump him. If he does, good on him and better for the Chiefs.

That draft class especially the first couple picks were consideral busts (i.e. Curry, Maybin, Jackson, Sanchez). I believe the chiefs should either cut their losses with this guy and rotate bailey and others in and use that salary to pay DBowe and BCarr. I hope we make some trickles in free agency this year, cause I know our management wont make a big splash.

This here is a no brainer. I believe they should spend the cash on Carr and Bowe before they paid Jackson. He is just a guy out there taking up space. I never hear his name called, and I cant for the life of me understand why KC ever took him 3rd overall. I have had a hard time with this guy ever since he has been in KC, he just isnt a factor in games like he needs to be.

Well if Pioli is truly going to continue the Patriots way, then we will not be having this discussion for long. While Clark Hunt loves to try and cover up his oopsies, the Patriots have long been known for their willingness to cut ties with draft picks -- even high ones (not that they ever actually pick high) -- when they underperform. I'm personally a proponent of blowing up the whole unit. Dorsey has trade value and a tradable salary, Gregg should ideally be backing up our future NT in 2012 and TJax is a waste, cut and re-sign 'im. If we can't get him back for a few mil a year, then whoever gets him will be overpaying and we will be better off. I say we look hard at promoting Bailey to his spot full-time and work on getting more depth guys and at least one quality free agent run-stuffer.

I think one of the main reasons Tyson Jackson hasn't lived up to the billing is the lack of NT play. Every play he is double-teamed.. It's really hard for me to understand why Pioli would put so much emphasis on the ends without filling the void at nose tackle. If the Chiefs take care of the "keystone" of the defensive line then Jackson will become a more dominant end..IMO

I can see where Jackson stays and gets his money. Let's see what Pioli does in veteran free agency this year. Sign a few veterans and actually fill some holes and Jackson is gone but if they go cheap (no one out there worth the money), they may well keep Jackson as they have to play with a LE anyway and they know what they have with Jackson. It is nutz but the Chiefs follow their budget and are not big on taking chances, got to stay in Pioli's comfort zone. Besides those of us who are haters would have to shut up about Pioli and his crappy drafting it his 1st ever pick played his whole contract, ego is as ego does.

The Chiefs will give up on him. There is no way they will pay him $14 million in 2013. He will be released, or he will agree to a lower salary. There is no trade market for him, and why would the Chiefs agree to eat any salary when they can release him without a finanical impact.

I guess the mantra will now be "it takes more than three years for a 3rd pick to develope and we should just be patient as the Great Pioli Pu Pu is always right"

, would you rather have the Chiefs use that money to pay Tyson Jackson or retain guys like Brandon Carr and Dwayne Bowe? Rhetorical, right?

Well apparently Tyson Jackson is exactly where Pioli envisioned him being in terms of development. Scott Pioli's innermost conviction: "To project success, one must create the illusion of success."

Not even up for discussion. There's only two people in this world who think they should pay Tyson over retaining other key players and those two people or Tyson and Tyson's mother other than that this isn't up for discussion. Hell if you asked me I could only keep one, Tyson or Brandon Carr and I would hands down say Carr. I still feel we need to get a completely new Defensive line when it comes to our starters. I like some of our backups but our starting D-line needs to go and Crennel along with Pioli needs to draft and sign a real defensive line. Hell we only need three players, we have serviceable back ups so how can we not find through the draft and free agency three good starting linemen.

@ArrowheadAddict nope

@ArrowheadAddict hasn't proved anything to be worthy of it honestly !

I guess someone didn't get the memo that Tin Man is actually awesome. I heard he drew 6,000 double-teams this year. Dorsey only drew 5,000. Seriously though, if its between admitting Jackson was a bad pick by asking him to renegotiate, or just paying him that ludicrous salary, the Chiefs will probably pay him. Thats a serious Sophie's choice for them, obviously. But one requires doing less, and saying less. You can bet thats the one Pioli will pick. "The only way the Chiefs get out of this mess is if Jackson is traded or starts playing at such a high level that his salary is warranted." Hypothetical question: what do you guys think we'd get for Tin Man, if we did try to trade him? My guess is a 4th rounder.

I just want everyone to remember. Two years ago..EVERYBODY wanted to dump..Derrick Johnson..It was said he was a wasted first round pick..Demorrio Williams beat him out for the starting spot...Now look. Be careful what you wish for..it might be a possibility these coaches know football a little better than YOU!!

He made significant strides this year. A year with no off season. This upswing in play was all on him. I think it showed how hard he wanted it. He should be given one more year with a full training regimen and coaching. This is a discussion we should have at the end of next year after a full offseason of training. If he does not improve, dump him. If he does, good on him and better for the Chiefs.

That draft class especially the first couple picks were consideral busts (i.e. Curry, Maybin, Jackson, Sanchez). I believe the chiefs should either cut their losses with this guy and rotate bailey and others in and use that salary to pay DBowe and BCarr. I hope we make some trickles in free agency this year, cause I know our management wont make a big splash.

This here is a no brainer. I believe they should spend the cash on Carr and Bowe before they paid Jackson. He is just a guy out there taking up space. I never hear his name called, and I cant for the life of me understand why KC ever took him 3rd overall. I have had a hard time with this guy ever since he has been in KC, he just isnt a factor in games like he needs to be.

Well if Pioli is truly going to continue the Patriots way, then we will not be having this discussion for long. While Clark Hunt loves to try and cover up his oopsies, the Patriots have long been known for their willingness to cut ties with draft picks -- even high ones (not that they ever actually pick high) -- when they underperform. I'm personally a proponent of blowing up the whole unit. Dorsey has trade value and a tradable salary, Gregg should ideally be backing up our future NT in 2012 and TJax is a waste, cut and re-sign 'im. If we can't get him back for a few mil a year, then whoever gets him will be overpaying and we will be better off. I say we look hard at promoting Bailey to his spot full-time and work on getting more depth guys and at least one quality free agent run-stuffer.

I think one of the main reasons Tyson Jackson hasn't lived up to the billing is the lack of NT play. Every play he is double-teamed.. It's really hard for me to understand why Pioli would put so much emphasis on the ends without filling the void at nose tackle. If the Chiefs take care of the "keystone" of the defensive line then Jackson will become a more dominant end..IMO

I can see where Jackson stays and gets his money. Let's see what Pioli does in veteran free agency this year. Sign a few veterans and actually fill some holes and Jackson is gone but if they go cheap (no one out there worth the money), they may well keep Jackson as they have to play with a LE anyway and they know what they have with Jackson. It is nutz but the Chiefs follow their budget and are not big on taking chances, got to stay in Pioli's comfort zone. Besides those of us who are haters would have to shut up about Pioli and his crappy drafting it his 1st ever pick played his whole contract, ego is as ego does.

The Chiefs will give up on him. There is no way they will pay him $14 million in 2013. He will be released, or he will agree to a lower salary. There is no trade market for him, and why would the Chiefs agree to eat any salary when they can release him without a finanical impact.

I guess the mantra will now be "it takes more than three years for a 3rd pick to develope and we should just be patient as the Great Pioli Pu Pu is always right"

, would you rather have the Chiefs use that money to pay Tyson Jackson or retain guys like Brandon Carr and Dwayne Bowe?

Rhetorical, right?