Kelly Gregg, Moby Dick, And Football Calculus

by Chiefs

Before I delve into the title subject matter, I want to first say a few words about our remaining rookie holdout. There are now only 4 unsigned rookies in the league, 3 of them of 1st rounders. Guess which one of those 4 was not a 1st round pick?

Justin, dude, are you freaking high? Probably shouldn’t answer that, huh? You were a 3rd round pick for reasons that nobody but yourself are to blame. Own up to it, live with it, move on; you are, without question, not making life any better for yourself by following the course you are on.

At this point, there is no acceptable explanation for Justin Houston’s hold out unless he’s not ready, physically, mentally, and/or emotionally, to play football in the NFL. If that is the problem, then I really have to start questioning whether this is a guy I still want on my team. If that’s not the problem, then he is just hurting himself as a result of some very flawed reasoning. Rookie salaries are now more slotted than ever and given where he was taken in the 3rd round, there can be no financial aspect to this deal that is worth quibbling over.

Honestly, I’m beginning to feel both sorry and embarrassed for Scott Pioli about this pick.

Kelly “Queequeg” Gregg after the bounce.

One of my favorite characters in all of literary fiction has to be Moby Dick’s Queequeg. He was of course Ishmael’s athletic, brave, reflective, skilled cannibal friend whose culinary preference was for raw red meat. Also notable, Queequeg, being the son of Chief, was destined to be a Chief himself. I similarly look forward to Kelly Gregg realizing his destiny as a Chief and personifying a few of the fictional cannibal’s virtues on the field, both figuratively and maybe not so figuratively. I hereforth dub Kelly Gregg, “Queequeg.”

Queequeg Gregg, the Chief.

All seriousness aside, just what are we getting in Kelly Gregg? Will the addition of Queequeg and Powe, the rookie 6th rounder, be greater than, less than, or zero sum with the subtraction of veterans Sweet Ron and Perv? As to the second question, it’s a hard call at this point but we’ll nevertheless check what the stats have to say.

According to Football Outsiders 2010 stats, the Chiefs ranked 25th against the run and 12th at rushing the passer. Conversely, the Ravens ranked 12th against the run, and 27th at rushing the passer. Perhaps more significantly in terms of the NT position, the Ravens ranked 17th at stuffing the run while the Chiefs ranked 27th in that category.

Let’s break this down a little further.

The Ravens ranked 7th best at defending runs to the A gaps (i.e, between the guards). Props for that go primarily to Kelly Gregg. The Chiefs ranked 27th in the league at defending the A gaps. “Sweet Ron” was in fact “Sweet Roll” in that category because, more often than not, that is what happened – he got rolled. Clear advantage Queequeq. Upgrade.

Now we get to the meat of the matter. Powe remains a complete unknown aside from the fact that he is a rookie and he was taken in the 6th round. Given all that, it is probably unreasonable to expect him to see a significant amount of snaps through at least the first half of the season which means that Queequeg is going to be on the field for the majority of snaps this season. That’s a tall order for any NT, especially for one that’s pushing 35.

What about substituting Powe in on obvious 3rd down passing situations? Well, this might make some sense given that Gregg is not particularly known for being a skilled pass rusher. The real problem here, aside from the fact I think it’s unrealistic to expect a rookie like Powe to contribute much on this front other than to spell Gregg, is that Powe is not known as much of pass rusher/penetrator style NT himself. Perv Smith, on the hand, displayed some ability in that department. Unless something changes or other players step in and step up, all things being equal, this has all the markings of being an area of decline for the 2011 Chiefs.

Double D’s Double Take:

On paper, the addition of Queequeg Gregg should improve our ability to defend against runs up the middle, an area of noteworthy weakness for the Chiefs 2010 defense. Gregg’s age and endurance are likely to be an issue as the season wears on so Jerrell Powe is going to have to start making more of presence into the rotation, for better or for worse, hopefully the former.

In passing situations, I think we are in some trouble due to the loss of Perv Smith. As a result, I have a hunch we will see more disguised 4-3 formations featuring names like Gilberry, Bailey, Miller, Bair, and Houston (assuming he’s a Chief), maybe others too (was it just me or did it seem like Pioli was drafting as much for a 43 D as a 34 D in this latest draft?). If not that, then perhaps Jackson or Dorsey can be slid to NT on passing downs until and unless Powe can force them back outside? I just don’t know.

Addicts, what are your takes? Is Queequeg + Powe >, <, or = Edwards + Smith?

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@Nick Rodgers Alternate ending, work with me . . .

@Big Matt Maybe QueeGregg.

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I'm afraid I won't be joining you on Queequeg, as it feels awkward both to say and to type. I wish you well on that journey though. Nicknames are fun. You might consider QueeGregg, rather than Queequeg Gregg. Goes down smoother. I really wish we'd have kept Perv Smith. Its unrealistic to expect a 6th round pick to do anything this year, and Tin Man isn't exactly a lock. Smith was a hell of an insurance policy both at LDE and NT. I think on obvious passing downs they usually went with two down linemen. Dorsey and Gilberry more often than not, if memory serves. I'd be fine with doing that again, although you have to be pretty damn sure they're gonna pass to go with that line.

Hmmm, as I remember the story didn't end well for Queequeg...

Call me Ishmaeil! And call me a fan of DD

Looks like Houston just signed! Buffalo better look out come september, this D will be hungry!!

@Double D I think he was in the Sopranos

Nice article DD and an interesting question. My take on it is that Gregg/Powe has more potential overall and Edwards/Smith is more of a known quantity. Personally, I would rather roll the dice with Powe rotating in. So, it was either Gregg/Powe or Smith/Powe. If Gregg gives us two solid years, we are better off than if we had Smith/Powe.

@LyleGraversen Pretty Sure that's correct, as in 99.9%

Reports coming out Houston finally signing

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but on clear passing downs the Chiefs didn't use a NT last year, did they? I'm pretty sure the only down linemen they used in those situations was Dorsey and Gilberry. They also mentioned that they see Bailey as someone that could rush the passer on the inside in passing downs.

I'm in Stillwater at OSU - i feel your pain!

@Double D No, thank you Double D... for a visual of Shaun Smith I'll spend the rest of the day attempting to forget.

@Celtks Wasn't he in the movie "Goodfellas?"

@RossHackett Aside from Perv's noted skillz at manhandling opponents, I guess I didn't realize he was more comfortable with penetrating them from an angle - I just assumed it was your standard front on assault. Thanks for the clarification on that . . . I think.

I think we'll end up seeing quite a bit of Powe this year. Gregg's role in Baltimore diminished last year, and I'm sure some of that has to do with his elongating tooth. He's got a motor, and that motor performs better when it gets some time to idle on the sidelines. Regarding KC's interior pass rush, I agree that it's an unknown at this point. But we didn't get much push up the middle last year either. And the few times Mr. Smith did get some pocket push (insert joke), it wasn't from the NT. It was from the DE position where he took over for an injured Tyson Jackson.

Oh boy we signed a safety - Sabby Piscitelli who I'm sure you all were rooting for. By the way remember Taylor Mays who some were touting as better than Eric Berry? The 49's are looking to dump him in a trade. Ha, we got Eric!

The first quote from Chiefs I've seen regarding Houston: Coach Todd Haley made it plain the linebacker was falling behind: “The train doesn’t stay in town for long. You’ve got to get on. We’re pushing hard here and getting in a position to take another step as a team.”

Who knows we may snap up some guy from the Raiders who have to free up $15,246,000 in cap space in the next 24 hours. That's either a heck of a lot of contract re-structuring or some more player cuts for them, or both!

1. You will regret naming him that. The "Q" button is way over there in the corner. 2. As for the equation, the answer is that the alligator will eat Gregg and Powe. (Greater than) I believe these 2 will be an improvement. Shut down the middle. -The lone Chiefs fan in OKC.

Big Matt 199 pts

I'm afraid I won't be joining you on Queequeg, as it feels awkward both to say and to type. I wish you well on that journey though. Nicknames are fun. You might consider QueeGregg, rather than Queequeg Gregg. Goes down smoother.

I really wish we'd have kept Perv Smith. Its unrealistic to expect a 6th round pick to do anything this year, and Tin Man isn't exactly a lock. Smith was a hell of an insurance policy both at LDE and NT.

I think on obvious passing downs they usually went with two down linemen. Dorsey and Gilberry more often than not, if memory serves. I'd be fine with doing that again, although you have to be pretty damn sure they're gonna pass to go with that line.

Nick Rodgers 62 pts

Hmmm, as I remember the story didn't end well for Queequeg...

Double D 43 pts

Nick Rodgers Alternate ending, work with me . . .

Arrowhead Adventurer 97 pts

Call me Ishmaeil! And call me a fan of DD

Talicore 60 pts

Looks like Houston just signed! Buffalo better look out come september, this D will be hungry!!

merlin_AA 191 pts

Nice article DD and an interesting question. My take on it is that Gregg/Powe has more potential overall and Edwards/Smith is more of a known quantity. Personally, I would rather roll the dice with Powe rotating in. So, it was either Gregg/Powe or Smith/Powe. If Gregg gives us two solid years, we are better off than if we had Smith/Powe.

Celtks 40 pts

Reports coming out Houston finally signing

LyleGraversen 313 pts

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but on clear passing downs the Chiefs didn't use a NT last year, did they? I'm pretty sure the only down linemen they used in those situations was Dorsey and Gilberry. They also mentioned that they see Bailey as someone that could rush the passer on the inside in passing downs.

GarrettJohnson 7 pts

LyleGraversen Pretty Sure that's correct, as in 99.9%

RossHackett 8 pts

I think we'll end up seeing quite a bit of Powe this year. Gregg's role in Baltimore diminished last year, and I'm sure some of that has to do with his elongating tooth. He's got a motor, and that motor performs better when it gets some time to idle on the sidelines.

Regarding KC's interior pass rush, I agree that it's an unknown at this point. But we didn't get much push up the middle last year either. And the few times Mr. Smith did get some pocket push (insert joke), it wasn't from the NT. It was from the DE position where he took over for an injured Tyson Jackson.

Double D 43 pts

RossHackett Aside from Perv's noted skillz at manhandling opponents, I guess I didn't realize he was more comfortable with penetrating them from an angle - I just assumed it was your standard front on assault. Thanks for the clarification on that . . . I think.

RossHackett 8 pts

Double D No, thank you Double D... for a visual of Shaun Smith I'll spend the rest of the day attempting to forget.

Celtks 40 pts

Oh boy we signed a safety - Sabby Piscitelli who I'm sure you all were rooting for. By the way remember Taylor Mays who some were touting as better than Eric Berry? The 49's are looking to dump him in a trade. Ha, we got Eric!

Double D 43 pts

Celtks Wasn't he in the movie "Goodfellas?"

Celtks 40 pts

Double D I think he was in the Sopranos

Celtks 40 pts

The first quote from Chiefs I've seen regarding Houston:

Coach Todd Haley made it plain the linebacker was falling behind: “The train doesn’t stay in town for long. You’ve got to get on. We’re pushing hard here and getting in a position to take another step as a team.”

Celtks 40 pts

Who knows we may snap up some guy from the Raiders who have to free up $15,246,000 in cap space in the next 24 hours. That's either a heck of a lot of contract re-structuring or some more player cuts for them, or both!

her3ma1 11 pts

1. You will regret naming him that. The "Q" button is way over there in the corner. 2. As for the equation, the answer is that the alligator will eat Gregg and Powe. (Greater than) I believe these 2 will be an improvement. Shut down the middle. -The lone Chiefs fan in OKC.

matthill82 7 pts

I'm in Stillwater at OSU - i feel your pain!