The Dilemma

Best read on this site in a while, and that is saying a lot, this site cranks out some good stuff. Great job man. I think I see things differently from a lot of people. I have sided with the owners on this lockout, but I think that may stem from the fact that I see the owners and players equally. You say you have more love for the players then owners, I dont think I do. I never met Lamar Hunt, but when he died, I would say it affected me, I felt sad. If something happend to say, Mike Vrabel, I do not think I would feel what I did for Lamar. That being said, when DT passed I took that very hard. What i am saying is that to me its not owners and players, it's people who are a part of the "team" I love. My commitment depends on the person, not the position they have with the team, not how much is in their bank account, or even how forth coming they are with the press. What matters to me is the type of people they are. I think most people are so biased towards the players that they are siding with them, despite the fact that they are in the wrong. Bias is above reason, and if people tried to view owners and players equally and look only at the facts I think there would be a little more love for the owners.

Lyle, You can add my voice to the hallelujah chorus here. Well said and my sentiments exactly.

I've been a chiefs fan from the beginning "63" I moved to colorado in 1975 still remained a chiefs fan. If they don't play a season this year I'll drop nfl sunday ticket & directv and just watch what is on tv I'm tired of spending all this money on football just to be screwed out of a season over greed. The longer this goes on the madder I get I've just about had enough.

Lyle First off great article brother. Demar Smith has done nothing but hurt the players association in my humble opinion. I think no matter what right from the start he was going to make this last as long as he possibly could. I dont know all the ends and outs but everything I've heard thus far has been non productive out of his end. That said with this lock out in place and no free agency I look down and we are 15 days out from the draft! I would have looked at anyone at the super bowl this year and said they'll have it worked out by then. Now I'm hoping by the start of football next year. I dont know what you guys think but if they dont make it to camp why even have a season, is what I would say if I were an owner we already have cash in hand. Clark Hunt has done a decent job with this franchise but I would like to see alot more. He has left himself alot of room for improvement thats forsure. If they let Tambi go they better get a first, second, and two fourth round picks is all I know. That to me still would'nt be enough but if they got all that I wouldn't complain to much if they drafted well.

I just stumbled across this quote from Drew Brees, I think he's a guy that gets it. “The Pro Bowl had better ratings than Game 6 of the World Series, all right?’’ Brees said. “Does that make any sense? People love this game because it’s not just a game, it transcends just the football field. I mean, I’ve been able to see that firsthand in New Orleans. What would New Orleans do without football? Are you kidding me? I don’t even want to think about it.''

That was great, Lyle. we seem to think a lot of the same things, but you've figured out how to say them in a way that doesn't irritate people. Kudos. I, too, dislike DeMaurice Smith, although I've kept that to myself for the most part given the side I'm on. Sort of like a member of a political party who doesn't like their president. I just keep my mouth shut and my digust private. You're absolutely right about the reason we cheer for the Chiefs. Thing is though, we grow to love these players who do this for us. If Clark Hunt sold the team tomorrow nothing would change (except we'd probably spend more). if Jamaal Charles was traded? Hali? Berry? Your boy Cassel? Things would change, and we'd have an emotional reaction to it. Much more powerful than anything an owner, or even a GM, could ever elicit.

Best read on this site in a while, and that is saying a lot, this site cranks out some good stuff. Great job man. I think I see things differently from a lot of people. I have sided with the owners on this lockout, but I think that may stem from the fact that I see the owners and players equally. You say you have more love for the players then owners, I dont think I do. I never met Lamar Hunt, but when he died, I would say it affected me, I felt sad. If something happend to say, Mike Vrabel, I do not think I would feel what I did for Lamar. That being said, when DT passed I took that very hard. What i am saying is that to me its not owners and players, it's people who are a part of the "team" I love. My commitment depends on the person, not the position they have with the team, not how much is in their bank account, or even how forth coming they are with the press. What matters to me is the type of people they are. I think most people are so biased towards the players that they are siding with them, despite the fact that they are in the wrong. Bias is above reason, and if people tried to view owners and players equally and look only at the facts I think there would be a little more love for the owners.

Lyle,

You can add my voice to the hallelujah chorus here. Well said and my sentiments exactly.

I've been a chiefs fan from the beginning "63" I moved to colorado in 1975 still remained a chiefs fan. If they don't play a season this year I'll drop nfl sunday ticket & directv and just watch what is on tv I'm tired of spending all this money on football just to be screwed out of a season over greed. The longer this goes on the madder I get I've just about had enough.

Lyle
First off great article brother. Demar Smith has done nothing but hurt the players association in my humble opinion. I think no matter what right from the start he was going to make this last as long as he possibly could. I dont know all the ends and outs but everything I've heard thus far has been non productive out of his end.

That said with this lock out in place and no free agency I look down and we are 15 days out from the draft! I would have looked at anyone at the super bowl this year and said they'll have it worked out by then. Now I'm hoping by the start of football next year. I dont know what you guys think but if they dont make it to camp why even have a season, is what I would say if I were an owner we already have cash in hand.

Clark Hunt has done a decent job with this franchise but I would like to see alot more. He has left himself alot of room for improvement thats forsure. If they let Tambi go they better get a first, second, and two fourth round picks is all I know. That to me still would'nt be enough but if they got all that I wouldn't complain to much if they drafted well.

I just stumbled across this quote from Drew Brees, I think he's a guy that gets it.

“The Pro Bowl had better ratings than Game 6 of the World Series, all right?’’ Brees said. “Does that make any sense? People love this game because it’s not just a game, it transcends just the football field. I mean, I’ve been able to see that firsthand in New Orleans. What would New Orleans do without football? Are you kidding me? I don’t even want to think about it.''

That was great, Lyle. we seem to think a lot of the same things, but you've figured out how to say them in a way that doesn't irritate people. Kudos.

I, too, dislike DeMaurice Smith, although I've kept that to myself for the most part given the side I'm on. Sort of like a member of a political party who doesn't like their president. I just keep my mouth shut and my digust private.

You're absolutely right about the reason we cheer for the Chiefs. Thing is though, we grow to love these players who do this for us. If Clark Hunt sold the team tomorrow nothing would change (except we'd probably spend more). if Jamaal Charles was traded? Hali? Berry? Your boy Cassel? Things would change, and we'd have an emotional reaction to it. Much more powerful than anything an owner, or even a GM, could ever elicit.