How Did We Get Here?

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Former chiefs GM Carl Peterson wore leather, used mousse, lied constantly, and had a predatory smile.  Quite the combination.  Players didn’t like him, agents hated him, and he had to have been terrible to try to work out a trade with.  Fans carried a grudging respect for him at best, and even that disappeared in the later years.  The point is, Carl Peterson was not a popular man.  Actually, let me rephrase that: outside of the Gretz household, Carl Peterson was not a popular man. 

I’m sure there are varying opinions on Carl’s effectiveness as a GM.  The game had obviously passed him by at the end, and really his entire last decade he was well below average.  But he had a good run in the 90s.  I’m inclined to think of his tenure as somewhat of a mixed bag.  But thats irrelevant for the moment, because job effectiveness isn’t what I want to discuss here.  I’m talking about who he was as a man, not a GM.  And I think the answer there is pretty obvious without having to dissect him fully.  Suffice it to say that by all accounts Carl Peterson was a less than optimal human being.  I didn’t know the man personally, but I’d say this is pretty much common knowledge. 

Enter Scott Pioli, he of the 90% approval rating.  The rank-and-file loves him.  In Pioli they trust.  The guy’s first move was to coin a meaningless, vague, GM-speak phrase (right 53).  We’ve been gleefully repeating it like trained parrots ever since.  Right 53.  Jesus.  No GM in NFL history has ever been looking for the wrong 53.  But I digress…

Big Matt goes big picture after the jump:

Pioli was part of a team that was caught cheating.  And really, it stands to reason he was a pretty huge part of the actual cheating process.  He was aware of it, at the very least.  We already know he was largely responsible for the gestapo-like secrecy of that organization, and he imported it here flawlessly.  To the point where we’re probably the “best” in the league at that stuff now (score!).  The student became the teacher.   In that one specific, non-football area. 

Spying and spy prevention probably fall under the same umbrella, right?  Pioli has worked tirelessly at spy prevention ever since he got here.  You might even say secrecy has been his number one goal.  I’ve always thought that was pretty funny (and telling).  I’m not a big believer in karma, but I am a big believer that the guy desperate to keep out invisible cheaters has probably done some cheating himself. 

Mind you, this is not an indictment of the job Scott Pioli has done.  We won ten games this year.  As I’ve said before, I’m inclined to give more of the credit for that to Pioli than Haley.   And hey, maybe all this secrecy actually pays some kind of dividends, although I can’t for the life of me see what those might be.  But I’m not talking about jobs done.  I’m talking about personality.

Many of you probably don’t care about a GMs personality.  You just want to win.  I can’t blame you for that.  And if Pioli does indeed win, then he’s done a good job regardless of his methods.  But that says nothing about what type of person he is, and thats what I want to get into here.  I swear there’s a point.  This won’t degenerate into rampant snarkery.  I save that for my alone time. 

Carl Peterson was overtly slimy, and Pioli doesn’t seem to be that.  But what is he?  Well, as I mentioned, he’s a convicted cheater.  He refuses to communicate with fans and media, and mandates that his coaches follow his lead.  He’s obsessed with secrecy and deceit.  He won’t admit mistakes.  He’s been accused of having a massive ego, and at the very least has a serious case of football entitlement.  He makes great use of spin.  He married into the Parcells family and then learned at the feet of one of the biggest grumps in world history.  On a personal level, this is what we know about our GM. 

If you’re thinking that things like GM-speak, dishonesty, and stubbornness aren’t unique to Pioli, I won’t argue with you.  You’re right.  Although he’s head-and-shoulders above the rest in the secrecy department, most of the stuff I’ve mentioned is pretty much par for the course among NFL general managers.  My question is, how did that happen?  How did we get here?

I don’t think GMs need to act this way.  When Pioli is asked about Tyson Jackson, it should be easy for him to say, “Look, Tyson hasn’t done quite as well as we’d hoped.  But we’re working with him, we like him, and we still think he can become a good player.”  Instead we get rambling nonsense about how Tin Man is already doing great and its all going according to plan*.  Teicher asks Haley if he’s going to call plays and Haley spends five minutes talking about everything other than play-calling.  We’ve reached the point where dishonesty has become endemic to top positions in the NFL.  And we’ve all become totally desensitized to it.  A coach or GM lies?  Everyone does that!  It’s part of the game!  My point exactly.  How the hell did this bulls#%t become part of our game?

*One of his quotes was “We knew he could be our left defensive end of the future.”  Not thought, knew.  As if anyone can really know anything about draft picks.  This is another example of what I’m talking about, and again, it isn’t specific to Pioli.  These guys always KNOW they’re right (even when they’re wrong).  Would it be so hard to admit that something is what you think, and not what you know?  Seems to me like that should be really, really easy.

Its time we take a step back and look at what our NFL has become.  If you think the proliferation of dishonesty is unrelated to the lockout, think again.  These are both symptoms of the same disease.  A disease we’ve allowed to spread unchecked because we just wanted our football.  And now even thats being taken away.  This is our reward for tolerating such shameful behavior. 

When the NFL does come back, we need to hold these guys to a higher standard.  I dream of a time when GMs aren’t all guys like Pioli or Peterson.  When a GM can do his job without having to resort to deceit and spin.  We’re pretty far away from that day, but we can get there.  This lockout can be the catalyst.  It can wake us up to the fact that the NFL is a gross place, where gross things happen, and gross men succeed.  I for one think its time we demand better.

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I am afraid I am too late to this Matt bashing party, but I just can’t help but join in anyway. TIDL did a great job countering Matt’s so called points, but I think there is one that Matt goes to a lot and it makes no sense to me. He wants Pioli to admit Jackson is shit. You told us in a comment, Matt, that you are a manager, let me ask you this, do you make a habit of publicly criticizing the work performance of your employees? I am a manager myself and I discuss the work performance of my employees with them one on one privately. It may sound cheesy but I like to think that the battle on the gridiron is forging a brotherhood, or better yet a family like atmosphere on this team, and let me tell you I never like to hear Dad call Mom a slut at the dinner table. Further more what is the benefit of Pioli saying Jackson is a bust? It is not his job to point out the lack of performance of a player, that rests with Haley and Crennel and I am sure that Tyson hears a heck of a lot of it from them two (when and where it is appropriate). The only thing I can see coming from Pioli criticizing a player is that player’s performance dropping further. Football is all about confidence and swagger, and a GM who never played in the NFL, saying you suck would only suck what little MOJO you may have left away. Everyone talked this shit about Dorsey, and now he is our most productive D-lineman. I think I remember hearing when I was 5years old that D-lineman take a long time to develop, this is not new knowledge. Dorsey is starting to come into his own, and I think he is definitely on the up swing, and will develop into a probowl player. I think we need to give Tin Man his fair shake, and he needs his confidence to even have a chance of developing and I applaud Pioli for not taking that away from him. Finally, the comment about what Pioli said after drafting Tyson. Really, you are a football fan who does not like a little arrogance, a little confidence? Before playing Super bowl 3 you want Joe Namath saying, “I think we might have an outside chance of winning.” Hell no, confidence and arrogance is what makes this league fun! I want players guaranteeing victory, I want coaches talking a little shit once and awhile, and I want my GM to instill confidence in his draftee. How do you think Tyson would have felt hearing Pioli say “well he might be a bust, we definitely reached for him, I’m not expecting much,” Would that inspire you to go out there and bust your butt for the guy? I think Pioli’s words are not for the press, he could care less about them (as he should) he knows his players will hear it, and he is doing his job of building their confidence, and showing them that they have the support of their organization.

YEP!! Well said

What you've done here is something I see a lot on Chiefs message boards. You're arguing not against what I actually said, but against an extreme opinion its easy to defeat. This is what I actually said (in this post, mind you) Pioli should've said about Tin Man: “Look, Tyson hasn’t done quite as well as we’d hoped. But we’re working with him, we like him, and we still think he can become a good player.” You'll note that the word "bust" is nowhere in there. Neither is "shit." In fact, that quote is still basically positive. Its just positive without lying. At no point anywhere do I say Pioli should admit Jackson is a bust. You use this same tactic again later in your comment. NOWHERE did I ever discuss what Pioli said, or should've said, right after picking Jackson. I was quoting an interview he gave in this offseason. And all I did was change the word "knew" to the word "think." I don't mind you disagreeing, and I really don't even mind Matt-bashing. I don't know you, its all in good fun. But I do ask that you argue against what I actually say, rather than what you wish I'd say.

Oh wow, Big Matt, how did you let the "Dorsey is our most productive d-lineman" go? I'm sure it would just turn into a pissing match and maybe that is why you let it go, but I can't help myself. Although Dorsey did have more tackles than any other d-lineman, he also played a lot more. He was pretty much the only every down player on the d-line. He improved a lot this year from year’s past, but he is still far from living up to his lofty draft position. Gillberry had 7 sacks to Dorsey’s 2. Dorsey has 4 over his 3 year career. Even if I were to concede that Dorsey was the most productive d-lineman on the Chiefs last year, that is like bragging about being the skinniest kid at fat camp. What’s the point? You also let the “D-linemen take a long time to develop” argument slide. I know you have already addressed this so in case he didn’t see it I’ll keep it simple….N. Suh for Detroit. Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I figured my post probably won’t even get read.

BM, So You think they are bad people and you call them deceitful liars etc.. You are entitled to your opinion which as I have said is sophmoric class baiting in my opinion. I think Hunt has tried and so far successfully to right the ship his father let go adrift. He hired Pioli who I like so far and Pioli hired Haley who I think has done a great job turning around the mind set of a soft, incompetent, football operation a laughing stock of the NFL under Herm and in the last year or so of Vermeil. Hunt, Pioli, Haley owe us a team that plays with intensity and competence and has the respect of its peer organizations. We know more about the players, schemes, talent, etc now with addict, pride, your whipping boy Gretz, and myrid other sources than we ever did when the Star was the lone source of information fit to print about the Chiefs or any other sports or hard news story. I think you are way way off base and I want you to know that.

well you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I realize not everyone feels the same way I do. We've all got different perspectives. On Mondays, I show you mine. LOL at "your whipping boy Gretz"

Mothers milk! Hilarious another polarizing read on the comment section. Big Matt here and the rest of the AA gang have saved my offseason, if you lived in the same town as me I would by you all beers until you were dead or passed out. I would have to have TIDL and the new guy around too, just to keep it spicey. Keep it up please! (Sophmoric now thats a classic)

Danny, Thanks for the kind words. I am glad we are keeping things interesting for everyone. That is the goal.

Wow, these comments got a little wild. Class baiting? Race baiting? Sophomoric? Where is that coming from? While I don't think the personalities of coaches and executives are very important, Matt is right that part of their job is interracting with the public, so what is the problem with "I want our coaches and GM to answer basic questions without being patronizing or needlessly guarded." It may not be the most important part of their job, but why shouldn't they do what Matt suggests?

Sophomoric I got no problem with. Thats a matter of taste. To be accused of entitlement and class baiting in response to the same post is pretty hilarious though. I'm pullin' double-duty there, apparently. Race baiting is just bizarre. Weirdest criticism I've ever received on here. This calls for an "everything is awesome" article next week to get back in their good graces.

sorry for the double comment ;)

No worries. I got it. =)

Big Matt, Who the hell on the side of administration ownership do you like or respect? Why are you always bitter, judgmental, and overly righteous about ownership? Should we be as judgmental and critical of Mike Vrabel for appearently swiping a few beers whilst celebrating his role as Union mouthpiece. Is he just another Union thief and thug? Probably not but the Vrabel question is worth the asking in reply to you as you are so cock sure of the guile and deceit of your perceived class enemies in management. Why don't you grow up and get some perspective that is other than knee jerk J school class baiting crap. I want a winner here. I like Vrabel. I like Clark Hunt (for now). I like Pioli and Haley. I hate class baiting and race baiting and sophmoric ideologs who cannot quite hide their crass and deeply felt resentments. Jayker

WOW!!! At least I know that I'm not alone

Class and race baiting. Uh, got any gum? "Why are you always bitter, judgmental, and overly righteous about ownership?" I guess because I think they're bad people? Thats the most stripped down answer I can think of. And although I didn't go to j school (Poly Sci here), I do think journalists, even fake ones like me, have a responsibility to their readers. Even the ones that hate them. Why don't I grow up? Sobering advice. I do turn 30 in June, so maybe that will help.

Matt, I feel like you're running out of things to bitch/write about. I don't know man.. I know that complaining is pretty much your thing but... what?? Picking on Pioli because he is too secretive? He doesn't owe us any information. Where do you get this false sense of entitlement? You probably still demand an allowance from your parents. News flash, you aren't owed jack sh!t from the Chiefs or the NFL. They field a football team and you chose whether or not to support them. Another thing.. I get that you don't like Tyson Jackson, but is he your only bitch crutch? This is the second week in a row.. can't you pick on someone else? OOHH wait, how about Mike Vrable, how about Thomas Jones? How about writing with substance rather than saying things to shock so you can get your comments. I hope for both our sakes that we have an interesting draft. Reading this crap puts me in a bad mood.

Has it been two weeks in a row? I thought last week he wrote about the jars of urine I keep in the corner of my apartment...or was that 3 weeks ago?

No that was 3 weeks ago.. freaking hilarious though. I have a feeling that with how paranoid ol Big Matt is he actually has the jars of urine in the house. He wants to be prepared for when the "man" comes and gets him. And by the "man" i mean Tyson Jackson.. He's a beast

And yet you're still reading! And for that I thank you. I gotta have those sweet, sweet comments. Mothers milk. The reason I've been so critical of Jones, Vrabel and Tin Man is because they're the bad players our administration tries to convince us are good. I'm not familiar with the term "bitch crutch", but I'm guessing it means things to bitch about? yeah, well I'm not really searching. I'm taking what is thrown at me. And if nothing is thrown, I write a fictional Paddy piece. Entitlement. Hmm. Thats one criticism I've never heard. But then I guess thats why you're my foil, TIDL. The yin to my yang. yes, I want our coaches and GM to answer basic questions without being patronizing or needlessly guarded. Is that entitlement? I thought I was class baiting? Which class am I supposed to be a part of here? You can support the team without loving the suits.

First off, you know I love ya BM. Second, why do you get to be the yang? I jumped right past the race bating but class baiting, I can see that. You seem to be blindly bitter against the owners lately, but that's another topic. False sense of entitlement? I think so. But that's one of the major problems with our generation. We think we're owed. We think we deserve to know everything that's going on. WE deserve to have the owners concede and restart the NFL season.... but sadly we aren't owed anything Matt Lastly, BAD PLAYERS??? Come on.. they aren't bad players. They may not live up to the expectations in your head but they aren't bad. Bad is Brodie Croyle's performance against the Chargers. Let's pick on him a little more. He can cry on his hot wife's shoulder.

But if I pick on Croyle I risk incurring Double Ds wrath, something I try to stay away from. I do think those three guys I mentioned are pretty bad though. I mean Thom Jones was awful and Tin Man got really fat. Vrabel was slow, old, and didn't record a single sack from the OLB position. I don't dislike them personally, but I really hate it when GMs and coaches try to pretend players are good just because their reputation is tied up in it. I am bitter against the owners. More so every day. And even though i think they deserve my scorn, I need to remember you guys don't know me personally. Class baiting sounds insane to me, but maybe to someone who didn't know me it would seem like I hate all rich people. I don't. Although I'm certainly not rich, I'm actually the manager of my company, so its not like I'm anti-management, or a commie or something. You won't see me picketing corporations or anything like that. I just really think these NFL owners are bastards. I think we are owed something, given that our $ makes this whole thing go. And if we weren't owed anything, there wouldn't be rules about media access to the teams. There are. These guys are all rich because of us, man. We're owed something. We've got to be.

I think the personalities of executives, and even coaches, are not that important. Coaches have a job to win games. GM's essentially have the same job, along with the financial success of the team. Their personalities are largely irrelevant. The public persona of Peterson was hard to like, and I don't personally know him, but some who do speak highly of him as a person. Are there any stories of Peterson doing anythign bad on a personal level? But really, does it make any difference? Peterson had tremondous and remarkable success as Chiefs GM until the later Herm years. Even then, he made some great draft picks and acquisitions that are now some of our best players. I don't exactly see how the game passed him by. His third round [correct?] pick of Charles with the pick received for Jared Allan was an outstanding piece of work (as was his pick of Allan). His pick of Bowe also turned out pretty good.

The reason Herm Edwards frequently had players he wanted taken directly before him (the Cleveland Browns hopped the Chiefs in the 2nd round one year to take Eric Wright, a player Herm frequently talked to and talked about) and Carl Peterson ended up on the losing end of more trades than not, was because this team was horrendous at secrecy before Pioli. I'm with you on Pioli's character, but his brand of secrecy is genius, not an indictment of his previous errors.

My take is a little different. I could care less if they want to keep secrets. If they feel it gives them an advantage, good for them. My thing is don't give us some BS lie as an answer thinking that we aren't smart enough to know the difference. Just tell us "we aren't going disclose that information" and be done with it.

Well put. Secrets in and of themselves are not bad when running a football team. For instance, who are they going to draft? Yeah, best to keep that a secret. There are several similar examples where I'll acknowledge discretion is definitely necessary. But a lot of times I'm left scratching my head at their tactics. Their refusal to disclose what draft pick they got back in the Magee trade? I don't know, I can't see any reason to keep mum on that. Or other similar stuff. Like when everyone knows we've signed someone and they refuse to admit it. Weird and unnecessary. Seems like they do it just to do it. "We don't answer questions, PERIOD. Who do you think you are even trying to ask us that?" Thats how they come off to me. But you're right, the lies are much, much worse. Like Haley's explanation of yanking Cassel that time. Give me a break. Just an obvious lie.

Big Matt, Are you implying that a man who works long hours and always seems to have the sniffles, is acting paranoid?

Matt even though I disagree with you here. I love the way you write it/say it. Owning and running my own very successful law practice gives me some insight here. Everywhere I go and every attorney I see is constantly “hounding” me to get any information on the inner working of my practice. They want my systems, marketing strategy, personnel policies, etc. They even hire my former employees. They want to copy me so they can imitate my success. I don’t blame them, but I don’t give them any information. In fact I mostly give them disinformation. This is my businesses, my life, it is kill or be killed. The NFL is a copycat league. Numerous teams wanted Pioli because he is successful. They are going to try and emulate him by any means they can. They want to know who he is, what he does, what he thinks and why he is thinking it so they can steal his draft picks, scouting department, coaches, etc. You cannot blame him for protecting his cards.

Very interesting point Jeremy.

I can see your point there for sure. It's valid. But I'm not asking GMs to tell us who they're drafting or coaches to tell us what kind of offense they're running. I just want a little common decency. I don't know, I guess its a fine line. But I get very upset when I'm lied to, and some of this stuff goes well beyond playing it close to the vest. I'm not just calling Pioli out here (although I understand that probably is how it sounds). The culture of spin and manipulation is what really bothers me, and Pioli is just a small cog in a big, nasty machine. Giving your competitiors disinformation is perfectly understandable. But do you give disinformation to your customers?

I think this is a character trait of any high level businessman. Most CEO's or Presidents of larger companies for example. I agree with Jeremy though. I can only speculate on the question you asked him, as I am obviously not him. I doubt Jeremy would give misinformation to his customers, but his conversations with his customers aren't in public. Keeping a secret from us fans is the same thing as keeping a secret from everyone else in the NFL. If we know something about the Chiefs, so does every other GM in the league.

My gosh man, watch your back. Most Chiefs sites are buried with post of "Go Chiefs" and "in Pioli we trust". Any indictment of Pioli and his style of GMing will get you fried in bacon grease. Sort of agree with you. For me it is hard to blanket endorse any organization who will not let me at least look at the interworkings. Especially sports, to be a fan you have to feel conected. With the Chiefs, for now, that is missing, sort of like the CBA?

I am afraid I am too late to this Matt bashing party, but I just can’t help but join in anyway. TIDL did a great job countering Matt’s so called points, but I think there is one that Matt goes to a lot and it makes no sense to me. He wants Pioli to admit Jackson is shit. You told us in a comment, Matt, that you are a manager, let me ask you this, do you make a habit of publicly criticizing the work performance of your employees? I am a manager myself and I discuss the work performance of my employees with them one on one privately. It may sound cheesy but I like to think that the battle on the gridiron is forging a brotherhood, or better yet a family like atmosphere on this team, and let me tell you I never like to hear Dad call Mom a slut at the dinner table. Further more what is the benefit of Pioli saying Jackson is a bust? It is not his job to point out the lack of performance of a player, that rests with Haley and Crennel and I am sure that Tyson hears a heck of a lot of it from them two (when and where it is appropriate). The only thing I can see coming from Pioli criticizing a player is that player’s performance dropping further. Football is all about confidence and swagger, and a GM who never played in the NFL, saying you suck would only suck what little MOJO you may have left away. Everyone talked this shit about Dorsey, and now he is our most productive D-lineman. I think I remember hearing when I was 5years old that D-lineman take a long time to develop, this is not new knowledge. Dorsey is starting to come into his own, and I think he is definitely on the up swing, and will develop into a probowl player. I think we need to give Tin Man his fair shake, and he needs his confidence to even have a chance of developing and I applaud Pioli for not taking that away from him. Finally, the comment about what Pioli said after drafting Tyson. Really, you are a football fan who does not like a little arrogance, a little confidence? Before playing Super bowl 3 you want Joe Namath saying, “I think we might have an outside chance of winning.” Hell no, confidence and arrogance is what makes this league fun! I want players guaranteeing victory, I want coaches talking a little shit once and awhile, and I want my GM to instill confidence in his draftee. How do you think Tyson would have felt hearing Pioli say “well he might be a bust, we definitely reached for him, I’m not expecting much,” Would that inspire you to go out there and bust your butt for the guy? I think Pioli’s words are not for the press, he could care less about them (as he should) he knows his players will hear it, and he is doing his job of building their confidence, and showing them that they have the support of their organization.

YEP!! Well said

What you've done here is something I see a lot on Chiefs message boards. You're arguing not against what I actually said, but against an extreme opinion its easy to defeat. This is what I actually said (in this post, mind you) Pioli should've said about Tin Man:

“Look, Tyson hasn’t done quite as well as we’d hoped. But we’re working with him, we like him, and we still think he can become a good player.”

You'll note that the word "bust" is nowhere in there. Neither is "shit." In fact, that quote is still basically positive. Its just positive without lying. At no point anywhere do I say Pioli should admit Jackson is a bust.

You use this same tactic again later in your comment. NOWHERE did I ever discuss what Pioli said, or should've said, right after picking Jackson. I was quoting an interview he gave in this offseason. And all I did was change the word "knew" to the word "think."

I don't mind you disagreeing, and I really don't even mind Matt-bashing. I don't know you, its all in good fun. But I do ask that you argue against what I actually say, rather than what you wish I'd say.

Oh wow, Big Matt, how did you let the "Dorsey is our most productive d-lineman" go? I'm sure it would just turn into a pissing match and maybe that is why you let it go, but I can't help myself.

Although Dorsey did have more tackles than any other d-lineman, he also played a lot more. He was pretty much the only every down player on the d-line. He improved a lot this year from year’s past, but he is still far from living up to his lofty draft position. Gillberry had 7 sacks to Dorsey’s 2. Dorsey has 4 over his 3 year career. Even if I were to concede that Dorsey was the most productive d-lineman on the Chiefs last year, that is like bragging about being the skinniest kid at fat camp. What’s the point?

You also let the “D-linemen take a long time to develop” argument slide. I know you have already addressed this so in case he didn’t see it I’ll keep it simple….N. Suh for Detroit.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I figured my post probably won’t even get read.

BM,

So You think they are bad people and you call them deceitful liars etc..

You are entitled to your opinion which as I have said is sophmoric class baiting in my opinion. I think Hunt has tried and so far successfully to right the ship his father let go adrift. He hired Pioli who I like so far and Pioli hired Haley who I think has done a great job turning around the mind set of a soft, incompetent, football operation a laughing stock of the NFL under Herm and in the last year or so of Vermeil.

Hunt, Pioli, Haley owe us a team that plays with intensity and competence and has the respect of its peer organizations. We know more about the players, schemes, talent, etc now with addict, pride, your whipping boy Gretz, and myrid other sources than we ever did when the Star was the lone source of information fit to print about the Chiefs or any other sports or hard news story.

I think you are way way off base and I want you to know that.

well you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I realize not everyone feels the same way I do. We've all got different perspectives. On Mondays, I show you mine.

LOL at "your whipping boy Gretz"

Mothers milk! Hilarious another polarizing read on the comment section. Big Matt here and the rest of the AA gang have saved my offseason, if you lived in the same town as me I would by you all beers until you were dead or passed out. I would have to have TIDL and the new guy around too, just to keep it spicey. Keep it up please! (Sophmoric now thats a classic)

Danny,

Thanks for the kind words. I am glad we are keeping things interesting for everyone. That is the goal.

Wow, these comments got a little wild. Class baiting? Race baiting? Sophomoric? Where is that coming from?

While I don't think the personalities of coaches and executives are very important, Matt is right that part of their job is interracting with the public, so what is the problem with "I want our coaches and GM to answer basic questions without being patronizing or needlessly guarded." It may not be the most important part of their job, but why shouldn't they do what Matt suggests?

Sophomoric I got no problem with. Thats a matter of taste. To be accused of entitlement and class baiting in response to the same post is pretty hilarious though. I'm pullin' double-duty there, apparently.

Race baiting is just bizarre. Weirdest criticism I've ever received on here.

This calls for an "everything is awesome" article next week to get back in their good graces.

sorry for the double comment ;)

No worries. I got it. =)

Big Matt,
Who the hell on the side of administration ownership do you like or respect?

Why are you always bitter, judgmental, and overly righteous about ownership?

Should we be as judgmental and critical of Mike Vrabel for appearently swiping a few beers whilst celebrating his role as Union mouthpiece. Is he just another Union thief and thug?

Probably not but the Vrabel question is worth the asking in reply to you as you are so cock sure of the guile and deceit of your perceived class enemies in management. Why don't you grow up and get some perspective that is other than knee jerk J school class baiting crap.

I want a winner here. I like Vrabel. I like Clark Hunt (for now). I like Pioli and Haley. I hate class baiting and race baiting and sophmoric ideologs who cannot quite hide their crass and deeply felt resentments.

Jayker

WOW!!! At least I know that I'm not alone

Class and race baiting. Uh, got any gum?

"Why are you always bitter, judgmental, and overly righteous about ownership?"

I guess because I think they're bad people? Thats the most stripped down answer I can think of. And although I didn't go to j school (Poly Sci here), I do think journalists, even fake ones like me, have a responsibility to their readers. Even the ones that hate them.

Why don't I grow up? Sobering advice. I do turn 30 in June, so maybe that will help.

Matt, I feel like you're running out of things to bitch/write about. I don't know man.. I know that complaining is pretty much your thing but... what?? Picking on Pioli because he is too secretive? He doesn't owe us any information. Where do you get this false sense of entitlement? You probably still demand an allowance from your parents. News flash, you aren't owed jack sh!t from the Chiefs or the NFL. They field a football team and you chose whether or not to support them.

Another thing.. I get that you don't like Tyson Jackson, but is he your only bitch crutch? This is the second week in a row.. can't you pick on someone else? OOHH wait, how about Mike Vrable, how about Thomas Jones? How about writing with substance rather than saying things to shock so you can get your comments. I hope for both our sakes that we have an interesting draft. Reading this crap puts me in a bad mood.

Has it been two weeks in a row? I thought last week he wrote about the jars of urine I keep in the corner of my apartment...or was that 3 weeks ago?

No that was 3 weeks ago.. freaking hilarious though. I have a feeling that with how paranoid ol Big Matt is he actually has the jars of urine in the house. He wants to be prepared for when the "man" comes and gets him. And by the "man" i mean Tyson Jackson.. He's a beast

And yet you're still reading! And for that I thank you. I gotta have those sweet, sweet comments. Mothers milk.

The reason I've been so critical of Jones, Vrabel and Tin Man is because they're the bad players our administration tries to convince us are good. I'm not familiar with the term "bitch crutch", but I'm guessing it means things to bitch about? yeah, well I'm not really searching. I'm taking what is thrown at me. And if nothing is thrown, I write a fictional Paddy piece.

Entitlement. Hmm. Thats one criticism I've never heard. But then I guess thats why you're my foil, TIDL. The yin to my yang. yes, I want our coaches and GM to answer basic questions without being patronizing or needlessly guarded. Is that entitlement? I thought I was class baiting? Which class am I supposed to be a part of here?

You can support the team without loving the suits.