Hali Negotiations Reveal Much

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On Friday, my esteemed colleague Mr. Jeremy Hanson esquire wrote that he didn’t want the Chiefs to break the bank for Tamba Hali.  Jeremy will always tell you what he thinks, popular opinion or not.  His take on this situation may not have been shared by many, but his reasons seemed rational enough.  Hali is one-dimensional.  He’s also reportedly asking for a deal similar to that given DeMarcus Ware, which is a hell of a lot of money.  We small-market teams have to use our money wisely, right?  Maybe we can’t afford to get into a bidding war, regardless of how much we love Tamba.

Nothing against Jeremy, or anyone else who shares his feelings, but the time has come to change that mindset.   There is no more salary cap, and even if there was, our days of coming anywhere near the limit are long gone.  When last there was a cap, in 2009, we were roughly $45 million below the limit.  In fact, the minimum level was set at $90 million, and we didn’t even come close to hitting that.  I don’t know whether there will ever be a salary cap again.  What I do know is that if there is, we will never need to worry about it. 

What does this mean?  Essentially, it means our days of saying a player is “too expensive” are over.  We can afford anyone we want, and overspending on one player would not mean we have to pass on others.  If a player is indeed deemed “too expensive” by our front office, it is because our owner doesn’t want to shell out the money for him.  This team makes huge profits every year* and is far, far below where any future salary cap would be.  The only possible limitation on spending would be coming from within our own organization, right from the top. 

*In 2006, when Clark Hunt took over as owner, Forbes magazine ranked the Chiefs the 13th most-valuable franchise in the league.  Under Clunt’s leadership, the team has slipped a little, but has never been ranked lower than 20th.  Put this together with a payroll at the bottom of the league and its not hard to figure out what kind of money the Chiefs have been generating lately.  Hunt likely turns a better profit than most of the other owners in the league, billionaires that they are.

I don’t know for sure whether such a limit is in place.  Scott Pioli swears there isn’t.  I do know that since Clunt took over the team, our payroll has dropped dramatically in relation to the rest of the league.  In 2007, his first full year as owner, our payroll was the third-lowest in the league, $25 million below average.  In 2008, we were dead last, almost $30 million below average.  In 2009, dead last again, and $25 million below average again.  This year we were second-lowest, a shocking $35 million below league average.  Is there a self-imposed limit in place?  Maybe, maybe not.  But we’re definitely spending less than everyone else.  Since Clark Hunt took over as owner, no other team can compete with our frugality.

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But surely it’s always been like this, right?  Uh, no.  As recently as 2005 our payroll was in the top half of the league.  That used to be a common occurrence.  2005, 2004, 2002,  and 2000 all saw us spending more than at least half our contemporaries, as did many years in the 90s.  Bargain-basement payrolls did not become a reality for the Chiefs until Clunt took over as owner. 

Of course, high spending doesn’t always equal success.  Any fan of the Redskins could tell you that.  But it definitely gives you a better chance.  The last six Super Bowl champions have all had payrolls in the top 10 of the league.  Winning with a low payroll can certainly be done.  The Chiefs, to some extent, did it this year, as did the Bucs.  But every team that won a playoff game this year spent over $120 million on payroll.  Every one.  Most of them spent significantly more.  We spent just over $84 million.

We have more than enough money to re-sign Tamba Hali.  The fact that we haven’t yet worries me, and it should worry you too.  I know its tempting to blame this on the lack of a new collective bargaining agreement, but that’s shortsighted.  The Chiefs were eager to re-sign Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson, so clearly they weren’t letting uncertainty rule their future plans.  Scott Pioli himself has said as far as he’s concerned its business as usual.  Lets not make the labor talks (or lack thereof) a scapegoat for the Hali negotiations (or lack thereof).  There is only one reason the Chiefs haven’t re-signed Hali: they don’t want to give him big money.

I’m forced to conclude that Scott Pioli has indeed been instructed to limit spending.  There is no other conclusion to reach.  I know people don’t want to believe Clunt is a miser, but the proof, from where I’m standing, is in the pudding.  When he makes as much or more than other owners, but won’t spend as much as other owners, what do you call that?  We’ve been brainwashed into calling it smart.  As if spending less than your opponents is wise regardless of the outcome.  I’m gonna go ahead and call it cheap. 

Clunt essentially bullied KC taxpayers into paying the lion’s share of the stadium upgrade.  In 2005, he said the Chiefs would probably leave Kansas City if the stadium didn’t get a major face-lift.  Nobody seems to remember this, as it was before Clark Hunt was a household name in Kansas City.  He was just beginning to assert himself in team matters.  Heck of a start, right?  He was later given a chance to back down from the statement, and instead re-iterated it.  Kansas Citians were rightfully terrified of the Royals being being the only game in town, so we capitulated.  The end result was $250 million in taxpayer dollars vs $125 million from the Hunts.  In case you’re wondering, this was not a standard arrangement.  Since 2000, 15 stadiums have been built or renovated.  On average, a little over half of the money comes from public financing.  The Kansas City public paid 67%.

And lets not forget the primary function of the renovated Arrowhead: to generate more money.  For who?  Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.  From who?  Another easy answer.  A renovated stadium was just another way for Clark Hunt to get more of our money every year.  And our tax dollars helped him do it. 

When I first saw the new Arrowhead, I was immediately struck by how much of the renovating had been done on the club level.  It looked to me like most of the money went to added suites and the indoor concourse.  Of course, there is no way that I know of to access accurate figures on that.  The last thing the Chiefs want is for any of us to get a glimpse at their books.  But I think its safe to say Joe Lunchpail was not the primary beneficiary of any of these upgrades.  The primary beneficiaries were the people who could afford the absolute most expensive tickets.  Or, if the empty club level is any indicator, the people that didn’t come to the stadium this year.  I’d love to see what they did to the owner’s box!

I’m sure some of you don’t want to hear this stuff.  That doesn’t make it any less true.  We all loved Lamar.  Clark is not Lamar.  Respect is earned, not inherited.  Clark is a guy who inherited a football team and uses it to take as much of our money as possible.  Some of you will no doubt retort that the Chiefs are a business.  Fine.  Do you know the owners of most businesses by name?  Do you revere them and their entire families?  Do you accept cost-cutting and consistently inferior service from them?  If the answer to any of these questions is yes, you are a very odd duck indeed. 

Let’s confront the harsh reality here: the NFL owners, including ours, don’t care about anything other than getting as much of our money as they possibly can.  They walked out of the last CBA talks.  Literally got up and walked out.  Now I could be wrong about this, but I was under the impression walkouts are usually utilized by an oppressed minority, not a handful of billionaires. 

When your decisions affect the lives of millions of people, you occasionally have to take things into account other than your own bottom line.  To refuse to do so is, for lack of a better word, evil.  If these owners have any humanity left, they’ll do what it takes to get a new deal in place. 

And if Clark Hunt wants to earn our respect the way his father did, he’ll provide enough money to get Tamba Hali signed.  Anything else would be unforgivable. 

note: I got my numbers for this piece from many different websites, so some of them may not be exact.  For that reason, I tried to avoid listing precise figures where possible.  Calculating avg team salaries is never an exact science given the way teams hide all their official numbers from the public.   I did, however, spend hours combing the interwebs and comparing all the figures I could find.  Most of them were very similar.  I’m confident in the results. 

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I find almost nothing offensive, except maybe calling my wife a bitch or my daughter a whore. That is name calling of someone I respect and care about. Yes, I protect my own. I can respect your opinions about Clark Hunt as long as you don't resort to name calling. You can claim that the name Clunt is the same as the word clock but we all know it's not true. Clock is a legtimate word in the English language. Clunt is not and is only a play on Clark Hunt's name with the intent to be insulting just because you don't like him or what you believe to be his intentions. Your name calling closes my open mind to your opinions and kills any respect I have for you. Yes, I do protect my own.

The next issue I expect to arise here in AA land is someone proclaiming that the world is flat and Hali is in danger of running over the cliff with Pioli chasing him with a contract extension. Or gosh I would settle for selling you all used cars with extended warranties.

Hali is a good player but not to the extent of a huge contract. He can pass rush but not pass protect. He is constantly out of position on bootlegs and reverses. Spending issues or not, keep Hali but not by overpaying for the talent and lack thereof.

Hali is hardly ever asked to drop into pass protection. That aspect of his game is really a non-issue. His job is to put heat on the QB and he is one of the best in the game at doing it. His shortcoming is his run defense which is below average. Then again, many pass rushing specialists are one trick ponies. Would it be great to have a complete linebacker who could do everything at an elite level? Sure. The reality is that those players aren't growing on trees. Having a stud pass rusher is one of the most important keys to a defense. Hali is worth every penny, not just for his sack numbers but the number of pressures he puts on QB's.

Happy Valentines Day Big Matt!!

Right back at ya, buddy. True story: I didn't know it was Valentine's Day until my boss mentioned it to me a few hours ago. So obviously I'm killin' it with the ladies right now.

There are a few issues with Matt's write-up. I am not going to disagree with any of it, but I do think that there are some things not thought of. First of all, I think we can establish that the patri....Pioli way is going to supercede anything else, including talent. I don't really have a problem with this, I, as a fan, am much happier with losing in the first round of the playoff with a good moral character group of players to cheer for, instead of thugs whom if they were not Pro-Athletes would already be in prison for one crime or another. I like rooting for people with good character. That point leads into this point. Can anyone name any big splash free agents who were of good moral character signed in the last 3 years?? Most of the big stars had some sort of character issues. I am not saying they were all bad people, but there were questions about some of their actions and statements in the past. What I am pointing out is, maybe there just haven't been a lot of guys on the market who are desired by Pioli because of character. Maybe Clark and Scott are willing to throw gobs of cash at the right guys. We will see. There is one other point I would like to make about Tamba. I read an article earlier today on bleacherreport talking about why he isn't worth what he is asking. He IS one dimensional, and I think everyone is ok with that. He is good at getting after the qb. I think people will also agree though, that being a great one dimensional player is not worth as much as a great multi-dimensional player. Tamba wants the same deal Demarcus Ware got. The stats are on the other website, but Demarcus has a better body of work behind him, and he contributes more to run stopping and pass protecting. Basically, just because the pinto has a ferrari body on it, doesn't mean you pay ferrari price for it LOL. No, Tamba is not a pinto, just making a statement there. There is also a good line in that other article about injuries being a factor. We all know that we will not know anything about KC business until our GM wants us to know, IF he wants to know.

Does Tamba have an injury history? He's stayed pretty healthy in his time in the NFL as far as I can remember. A missed game here and there maybe, but nary a serious injury that I can think of. I can't speak to Jason Brown's character, having not known him personally. My impression is he's just a meat-and-potatoes offensive linemen. But he played a position of need and we didn't even bring him in for a meeting. He signed with St Louis, so it stands to reason we could've had him. Too much $. Not the last time we'll be hearing that. I like rooting for good guys too. But then, I also like receivers who celebrate a lot and defensive linemen who talk shit. Its a fine line I walk.

I know alot of those guys had character issues and we did dodge a bullet by missing on Haynesworth, but I would'nt be opposed to getting him for one year. With that said, Santonio Holmes was had for a fifth round pick. How do you not take a chance on a high risk high reward on a big time guy like that for a fourth round draft pick? All my opinion of course but a fifth round pick and the needs we have at reciever!

Santonio, high reward or not, has a mouth problem as well as some shady actions. Pioli would never take him. I am not saying this is right, but this is the feeling from chiefs camp that I get. I agree Matt, Tamba doesn't have much of a long term injury history, it was just a question brought up in that other article, we all know that Chiefs camp does not want its fans informed....

Really great article. There are basically two thoughts here, Tamba Hali is like a fork in the road... On one side, it’s that since Clunt has taken over, the Chiefs have become all cheap ass, paying way below the league salary cap for their players. Not making any big splashes in FA. Signing older players on the cheap to fill the holes. While signing the hottest GM in football, to assemble a coaching staff, that starts running things like "the patriot way", which is basically a dumb code for we don‘t pay our best players a ton of money because this is a team game. All the while, Clunt is just raking in the dough... And, on the other side. We have dear Clark Hunt, great young lad of Lamar. Who watched the last few years of his life, as the Chiefs did spend closer to the salary cap max. Under the misguidance of King Carl and his load of flawed coaches. As the team struggled, because the GM made poor decisions in FA. On which players he chose to sign for big bucks and which ones he should have just kept. So the new kid Clark, comes in and wants to make some changes. So he signs a guy who apparently knows what f*ck he's doing in Pioli, and that guy decides he going to be rebuilding this sh*t brick by brick. So he rids himself of all the overpaid players left behind, and the payroll drops. Then this year he makes sure he re-signs Jamaal freaking Charles. Locked up DJ too. And he is not going to overpay for Tamba, he offers dude what he thinks is fair, and that’s that. He has no problem on letting a guy walk or spending, its just always going to be on the right guys, for the right price... This team made the playoffs last year. If we resign Tamba, and make a big splash in FA, like a Larry Fitzgerald, this team could make a run. I think we’ll see how close Pioli thinks we are with this decision on Tamba. If we don’t resign him, and pick up another good WR, you could assume we won’t be any better next year with the tougher schedule.

wood, I was with you until, "FA, like Larry Fitzgerald", sorry but he is under contract. Might be a FA next year. I do not believe we will ever see him in a Chiefs uni. I do buy into the fork in the road theory. As fans, I believe we give more value to the 10 wins on 2010 than the Chiefs. I am not sure if they believe they are that good in that short of a time. That may color the possibility of spending the dollars to sign a Hali quality player. If the team is not ready, then the money will not be spent.

Tamba is indeed like a fork. Which path will they take? The road less travelled? Which one is that? I guess for us it would be the one that ends in a playoff victory. Rimshot! Seriously though, this Tamba fork is killing me. I hope I remember that analogy when this issue is decided one way or another and I'm writing a post about it. Either an angry post, or a "Praise Jeebus" post.

Wood I think the third prong in this fork is that we obviously we have some money here (Clark) we have a guy who escaped a war torn Liberia when he was 13. He has been here since the begining and played through some injuries and has always showed an extreme motor. Not a premadona keeps his head down and picture out of the paper unless its good. We have shown the inability to pick up some key off season aquisitions. So we're just a little concerned about this pattern with our only constant pass rush outside of Wallace Gilberry. Hali shows no sign of bieng trouble and is worth a top five pay day. I might be wrong but I doubt he would turn down Tyson Jackson money. Hali at least needs to be the highest payed Chief on defense right now.

Point taken.... Why am I concerned about the Hunt's money? I guess I am not. I honestly did not know the spending was going down year to year. It seems as though the Hunts knew the rebuilding process (starting with Herm) would be painful and generate many more losses, and there would be less revenue due to the empty seats. Maybe that is why the spending is/was going down. They knew the Chiefs would be less profitable. I don't know; it is just a hunch. Also maybe we could not spend the money (don't laugh) but what free agent has wanted to come to the Chiefs in the last 5 years? Other than Jared Allen, we have kept our best players. (Jared Allen was let go because of worries over his behavior and DUIs and the deal was too good to be true. Gonzo wanted out.). This year and the upcoming ones could be different as far as free agents go. I am just mindful of the fact that big contracts do not translate into big play. I most assuredly do not want to lose Hali, and he will be paid handsomely and he should be. I was just simply stating we should be wary. As always Matt this is a great article. I love your stuff.

Duh. What I was trying to say Matt is you are right. It is not our money. The Chiefs and its ownership (the Hunts) owe us fans a top notch team capable of going deep into the playoffs year after year. If they can do that on the cheap then good for them.

Thanks, amigo. And thanks for providing the inspiration for this post! It was as I was reading your Hali post that I thought, "You know, if Jeremy feels this way, there are probably other smart people who do as well." And then I thought that maybe there were a lot of fans who just didn't know about our recent financial situation for whatever reason. It's not something most people are probably that interested in. I really thought people who hadn't heard this stuff needed to hear it. I agree with your below statement, too. If the Chiefs can win big on the cheap, bully for them. Other teams haven't been able to recently. It's just, as a fan, spending little and winning isn't more desirable to me than spending a lot and winning. They're both equally desirable. The extra money out of Clunt's wallet makes me smile, if anything. For the love of god get that money elsewhere. From Clunt, to the player. From the player, to the car dealership, and thence out into the world. Better there than in the bank earning interest for a billionaire.

I think money talks with anyone if you pay them the right amount they will want to play here. I'm not going to choose 5 million less because I want to play near the coast?

The NFL makes money. There is tons of money to go around. The NFL owners are the greediest bunch of owners in all professional sports. Owners are making so much money that the millionaire players are feeling exploited. You should know there is a problem when that happens. As far as Hali is concerned, PAY THE MAN HIS MONEY. He has earned every bit of it being moved from DE to OLB playing under different coaches and seems to always have a good attitude. Clunt scares the crap out of me as an owner. I’m not going to call him Glass2.0 yet, but he is sure exuding that Wal-Mart style of running a business.

I am usually wrong but I believe Hunt will spend money to make the team something special. I suggested it is supported by hiring of Pioli (not my guy, ok), Haley, considered a hot HC prospect, and Crennel and Weis, two Coor. at the time of hiring. That supports Hunts commitment to winning (+spending $s). My only comment is the "WHEN" for players. I just am not sure. Signing Hali would go a long way into player acquisition.

All I have seen is us signing aging veterans whose team has given up on them for being too expensive (Vrabel, Weigmann, Chambers, and Lilja among others). Some of these guys have worked out, but some have not. We have not tried to sign any bigger $ free agents recently even when a need is obvious. How many washed-up veterans have we brought in to try and plug a hole instead of spending some money? Everything I have seen has been in the name of frugality. In fact, I'm even willing to make an argument that the reason he got Pioli, Haley, Weis and Crennel was so that he didn't have to spend as much money. My guess is he thought that a good coach could coach up a player and gets more value out of them than a mediocre coach. Now I certainly don’t know that and am just trying to play devil’s advocate, but it wouldn’t shock me in the slightest. So far in his short time as acting owner, Clunt seems cheap to me. He can certainly correct that image in a hurry.

It would definitely be really easy for him to correct it. Re-sign Hali, authorize a modest free agency spree (if there is free agency) that includes at least one relatively big-ticket player. Not a Haynesworth necessarily, but something like the Boldin trade. Which, if you recall, we didn't make because we didn't want to pony up to re-sign him. KC owners be frugal, son! All these idiot New Yorkers I'm surrounded by have no idea how lucky they are. They take it for granted.

Thats just it bloc "Owners are making so much money that the millionaire players are feeling exploited." Watching Inside the NFL with James Brown they explained it that the owners are feeling exploited saying that the NFL cannot go on with the owners only recieving about 41 percent of the revenue, while the rest of the staff including players and coaches recieve about 58. The greedy just get greedier. I say fix the rookie pay structer were the agents ease up on the 50 million dollars before a snap is played, crap and all is well, I guess the owners want even more than that. I would say the Clark's scale looks more like 60 owner 40 staff.

I also agree that the this will be a deciding factor in how we feel about Clunt (love the name btw, dont see the big deal). A lot of people, including me would be devastated to see Hali walk.

I'm glad some people like the name. Not trying to ruffle feathers, I've just always found it funny. I'd call him that even if we won the Super Bowl.

the owners make me sick. i actually wish vince mcmahon would make another effort to build a new league.

Even though The Centaur is a well known Communist sympathizer (although that might just be a fantasy of mine - I can't tell anymore), I can't disagree too much here with him or Big Matt. In the owners versus the players we have a cartel versus a union. Free market principles do not apply, and all we're left with is the class warfare of "millionaires vs. billionaires". Yet they manage to put out a product we all enjoy immensely. The tight controls over who can own a team and what I've called before the Soviet-style revenue sharing make the owners accountable to absolutely no one but themselves. Of course we can't know with certainty how profitable any given organization is. But since the owners still try to make their case in the negotiations but refuse to open their books, we draw the perfectly logical conclusion that doing so would hurt their case. As regards Hali, the conjecture that we could pay him any amount he demands still isn't justification for doing so. I love Hali and would hate to lose him, but I don't think he should get the highest salary in the league for his position. Top five, definitely. But if we can't sign him in that range I'll be disappointed, but won't blame Clunt. I was impressed with the figures you tracked down for this post, and it was laid out nicely. I think that the strongest arguments that we as fans can make have to be based on how our payroll stacks up to others in the league, since we have no way of knowing the actual balance sheets of the Chiefs.

Yeah figuring out how much an owner actually made off his team is next to impossible. There are just too many factors at play. The fact that they guard their books like Frodo guarded the one ring certainly doesn't speak well of them though. I mean, its pretty obvious every single one of those perverts is making ridic bank. NFL owners are the new nobility, minus the noblesse oblige but complete with hereditary lines of succession. Cartel is the most accurate description I've ever heard. God, I hate them. The Centaur is a red?!? Oh, I'm gonna PUKE!

If you want to be a contender,then you got to keep up with the jones,as an old figure of speech.Look at the jets for an example,they have no problems spending and look at them now.you either want to win or you dont.

Ya but the Jets have like ten free agents this year. They wont be able to sign them all back and they have nothing to show for it but two afc championship losses

In case you did not notice, Jets 10 free agents, Chiefs 25 free agents. Of course, several Chiefs should be former Chiefs but the numbers are there.

I wasnt using exact numbers I was just explaining the Jets have an unusually large number or free agents at key positions like David Harris, Shaun Ellis, and Antonio Cromartie.

I grimaced at "keep up with the Jones". Thought at first you meant something else entirely. I think you see what I'm getting at.

Pay the Man! No doubt about it! Hali faced double coverage, and some of the best Left Tackles in the game and was a beast all season long. I'm not sure if he finished first with pressures but he was in the top 5 in all of his respected stats. The reason why Peppers, Ware, Phillips, Dumervil, Harrison were payed so much is because Franchises realize how critical it is to have a game changer on the DL pressuring the QB! No doubt this guy made our defense better by hurrying the pass for our DB's before coverage was broken. Tamba is the closest thing we will have to DT too! He never takes a down off! 100% and you know Haley doesn't want to lose the guy that exemplyfies CHIEFS WILL! Also, I think they've saved back their money for their youth players to resign them.. We are a young team and we are obviously saving it to give to guys that are due in the next coming years. Flowers, Carr, Bowe... I know that's what they are doing, and they are being smart with their money.

Loving the new blog logo. It's a shame it made it's debut on one of your most serious posts. Regarding Hali: pay the man. The Chiefs will have to spend money eventually to keep their better homegrown talent. If they don't pay Hali, they'll end up bringing in Vrabel 2.0 (some descending veteran) to take the spot, and that would be a disaster. Spending wisely does not mean keeping payroll low.

Wait, there's a Vrabel 2.0?!? This changes everything. Now I say we get rid of Hali, sign Vrabel 2.0 (is he a robot? Vrabelbot?) and start workin' the Vrabel bookends. Unless.....too much leadership?

I think you make good points Matt but I am not sure we can guarantee that Clark is cheap yet as far as the team's payroll goes. He paid Charles and DJ. Got a bargain on DJ but it wasn't chump change. The thing about the payroll since Clark took over is that there wasn't anyone on the team worth very much, save Jarred Allen. The roster got gutted by Herm when he went young so there were no players that deserved huge paydays. I think the thinking here is start low and then pay the people that deserve it, instead of blowing big money on old free agents like Haynesworth that won't really help. Now that star players are emerging, we'll find out if Clark plans to always keep the payroll this low or if he is just waiting to pay the right guys. Hali is going to get a huge contract so it is no surprise that the negotiations are taking a while. The fact that the team resigned DJ and Charles is a good sign that Hali will get inked. If they let Hali go, though, I think your theory will be confirmed.

Your points are valid.....unless we don't re-sign Hali, as you said. If we end up paying the man, and pay who needs to be paid in the future, I'm OK with a below average payroll. If not.....

I agree. If they let him walk, we have a problem. My theory is that our payroll should go up as the team improves. The more star players you have the more money you will have to cough up. That is why most good teams n the NFL usually start out young with low payrolls. The key is finding guys like Andy Studebaker and Jovan Belcher. The Chiefs locked up Studebaker for value bucks and if he replaces Vrabel and turns into a stud, they'll look like geniuses. Making moves like that will help them have cash to pay guys like Hali and Charles. We'll know we have a problem, however, if Clark starts letting young stars walk in favor of saving bucks.

Which, to be fair, is what they did with Jared Allen. And that was under Clark. I never really bought that "man at risk" stuff.

I'm not sure it's the lampooning that people mind as much as it's the vulgarity. The fact that my post would probably be removed if I said the word you're making a play on should be a good indicator...

There is a difference between being vulgar and being clever. Big Matt is walking a fine like with this one but I don't think he crosses it. We are VERY mindful around AA about unnecessary vulgarity, both in articles and in the comments. We try o be funny and entertaining without being crass. Big Matt is as talented writer and as I said, editorially, I am ok with this one.

Is the word "clock" vulgar? In all seriousness, I understand where you're coming from here. But believe me when I say the nickname was made up years ago as a little wordplay joke between me and my readers (of which I had about 20 at that time). This was before I had any opinion on Clark one way or the other. It really isn't meant to be calling him a c*nt. If there is a legitimate outcry I'll stop using the name. I really don't want to offend anyone. It was meant to be all in good fun when I came up with it.

I've long considered refering to him and his familial co-owners as "The Clarks" a la Dwayne Bowe. I can't think of any way that some twisted mind would find vulgarity in that. So Big Matt (or is it alright if I just call you "BM" for short?) I propose you adopt "The Clarks" should the puritanical heat ever be enough to compel you to punt Clunt.

You could call me BM. Or you could just shorten it to "poop". Thats a pretty great nickname. The Clarks is good too. You gotta love D-Bowe. That last sentence is really something.

Good article but what do we do about it. If Mr Pioli is not ready to spend, how does anyone force him? Hali should not be allow to go elsewhere. I can think of no reason for he to leave the Chiefs. I say again what can anyone do about it, if it does not fit the Pioli plan?

I find almost nothing offensive, except maybe calling my wife a bitch or my daughter a whore. That is name calling of someone I respect and care about. Yes, I protect my own. I can respect your opinions about Clark Hunt as long as you don't resort to name calling. You can claim that the name Clunt is the same as the word clock but we all know it's not true. Clock is a legtimate word in the English language. Clunt is not and is only a play on Clark Hunt's name with the intent to be insulting just because you don't like him or what you believe to be his intentions. Your name calling closes my open mind to your opinions and kills any respect I have for you. Yes, I do protect my own.

The next issue I expect to arise here in AA land is someone proclaiming that the world is flat and Hali is in danger of running over the cliff with Pioli chasing him with a contract extension. Or gosh I would settle for selling you all used cars with extended warranties.

Hali is a good player but not to the extent of a huge contract. He can pass rush but not pass protect. He is constantly out of position on bootlegs and reverses. Spending issues or not, keep Hali but not by overpaying for the talent and lack thereof.