A Tailgaters View of Preseason Games

by Chiefs

Look folks , my view of preseason games is this:

The final score is not important. The score at half time is. Thats it. Thats my view. Pretty simple.

A simple fact that leads to a simple result. August tends to be a pretty frustrating month for me. And for Kansas City Chiefs fans everywhere.

Why? Simple again. I forget that most fans and non-fans alike have an overwhelming tendency to focus on the final score. And I have to deal with it when I come to work the next day. And increasingly when I click on AA.

You see, preseason games began with an intent long lost to the average fan. To be a scrimmage. To stretch the legs of the starters, and to test the guys on the fence, and to acclimate players to actual playing conditions in the NFL.  Fan’s who attended enjoyed a substantially lower ticket price. Owners passed little or none of the proceeds onto the players.

As per Wikipedia:

With the AFL-NFL merger of 1970, professional football was granted a Sherman Anti-Trust Act exemption, which emboldened some team owners to expand the exhibition schedule and to require season-ticket holders to pay for one, then two, then three home exhibition games if they wanted to keep their season tickets. The exhibition season then became, and remains, a large source of owner revenue that is not shared with the players. For several years through 1977, the NFL season consisted of 14 regular season games and six exhibition games, usually three at home and three away, with some played at neutral sites. Starting in 1978, the regular season was expanded to 16 games, and the exhibition season was cut from six to four games

The result?

Games that began as scrimmages have evolved into games that look like games that count to non NFL fans, and sure seem like they should count to the pocketbook of season ticket holders who must pay full price for these practices held at times that make it nearly impossible for the commuter to drive up and back in the same day.

Should the team coaching staff treat them like they were originally intended, they are likely to walk away with increased knowledge of the ablility of unknown players, as well as the current condition of those sure to make the final cut, but a loss.

Should the coaching staff focus on winning the event, fans will likely be left with a false sense of security for the upcoming season. Likely their first string players beat the other teams second and third string roster.

Thats why I’m rooting for the preseason games to be reduced in number or eliminated all together. The result would be a financial windfall for this season ticket holder. Plus I’d get to see more regular season games. And a final end to driving home from KC at two in the morning.

Let me get out my crystal ball and make a couple of predictions:

1. We will extend the the regular season and reduce the preseason by 2012.

2. There will be regular season games played by regular season players in 2011. 99% certainty.

What do you think Addicts? I no expert, lets hear your thoughts.

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EXACTLY CAL CHIEF THANK YOU WELL SAID

On the 18 game schedule change, I'm sure it's gonna happen. I remember when they went from 14 to 16 games. There was a lot of fan opposition then. After a while everyone got used to it. As far as I'm concerned the more football the better. There is enough talent out there that if they increase the roster size it won't water down the talent level.

I think Haley is trying to do everything he can in the preseason to make us better in the regular season when it counts. Yea a win is nice but I agree with Randy, it's not the priority. We have a long way to go and Haley and Pioli have made it very clear that they are more concerned about the long term. They'll take the preseason losses if it means the Chiefs are better prepared when the regular season starts.

I think Detroit's win loss record for preseason games and New Englands say it all.

OH, I love you too!

I heard it Jeremy, I felt that it reinforced my position. He said "you can say we played the JV team" . I'm saying its not that coordinated play. You dont call the other team and say "ok put your second string players in and so will we". The other team may have needed more evaluation of their third string players. The fact that Ryan put his second strings back in to win the game accomplishes what?

Not to sound like an ass, but it accomplishes a win, momentum, confidence, etc.

That Rex Ryan conversation was on Hardknocks and HBO last weds.

I love you Randy, but DD an I are in agreement. Competitors compete. You want an example. Rex Ryan said during the last jets preseason game that the threes sucked and put the twos back in to secure the victory. Winning always counts for something!

Randy - Living in AZ you can only imagine how long a baseball season takes when your team is bad. 162 games seems like forever. It was bad enough the last few years with the Chiefs but it could have been worse if the season was longer. Then again, when we get back to our glory days I may have to take it all back and root for a 20 game season. Especially when I see Berry lighting up Tebow.

AZKCfan thats a very interesting and valid point, more games would certainly devalue the regular season. Its a complaint I have voiced time and time again relating to baseball.

Thanks Warpaint!!!! It tends to sneak up on all of us.

Thanks for reminding all of us that pre-season really is all about discovering who can do what, and who can't. I for one do get confused at times and get caught up in the games as if the truly mean something. It's not about winning and losing and making play off runs.

No argument with your points DD, good thoughts.

Oops, Said "Majority" meant "Minority"

I also think a shorten preseason is going to happen with an 18-game regular season. That being said... I am probably in the majority that thinks this is a terrible idea. I am all for taking preseason down to 3 games (maybe two), but I don't want to see the regular season changed at all. Can you imagine the Colts going 13-0 only to "fake-play" the rest of the season (5 more games). I am not a fan of college ball because there aren't enough games and it is too easy to cheat the system (Ohio State) by playing no one good. One loss and you are done. With the pro's, 16 is perfect. Anymore and the value of the regular season gets taken away. Again, I know I am in the minority and as much as I love watching football I just can't see 18 games being better than 16.

I hear what you're saying about the whole scrimmage thing Randy but I also know that I personally never once participated in any kind of scrimmage where I and the guys I was playing with did not want to come away with more points then the other guys. It's just the nature of competition and even though a preseason loss doesn't mean that much, I can't help but not like it when I see it. As far as shortening the preseason / lengthening the regular season goes, I agree that it will likely happen. One of the changes that I heard might go along with that is allowing teams to have bigger rosters as a means of compensating for the increased likelihood of player injuries and fatigue from say a 18 game schedule. If that happens, I'll be eager to see how teams make use of that - e.g., 4 QBs? 2 kickers maybe - 1 for kickoffs and the other for field goals & PA's?

EXACTLY CAL CHIEF THANK YOU WELL SAID

On the 18 game schedule change, I'm sure it's gonna happen. I remember when they went from 14 to 16 games. There was a lot of fan opposition then. After a while everyone got used to it. As far as I'm concerned the more football the better. There is enough talent out there that if they increase the roster size it won't water down the talent level.

I think Haley is trying to do everything he can in the preseason to make us better in the regular season when it counts. Yea a win is nice but I agree with Randy, it's not the priority. We have a long way to go and Haley and Pioli have made it very clear that they are more concerned about the long term. They'll take the preseason losses if it means the Chiefs are better prepared when the regular season starts.

I think Detroit's win loss record for preseason games and New Englands say it all.

OH, I love you too!

I heard it Jeremy, I felt that it reinforced my position. He said "you can say we played the JV team" . I'm saying its not that coordinated play. You dont call the other team and say "ok put your second string players in and so will we". The other team may have needed more evaluation of their third string players. The fact that Ryan put his second strings back in to win the game accomplishes what?

Not to sound like an ass, but it accomplishes a win, momentum, confidence, etc.

That Rex Ryan conversation was on Hardknocks and HBO last weds.

I love you Randy, but DD an I are in agreement. Competitors compete.

You want an example.

Rex Ryan said during the last jets preseason game that the threes sucked and put the twos back in to secure the victory. Winning always counts for something!

Randy - Living in AZ you can only imagine how long a baseball season takes when your team is bad. 162 games seems like forever. It was bad enough the last few years with the Chiefs but it could have been worse if the season was longer.

Then again, when we get back to our glory days I may have to take it all back and root for a 20 game season. Especially when I see Berry lighting up Tebow.

AZKCfan thats a very interesting and valid point, more games would certainly devalue the regular season. Its a complaint I have voiced time and time again relating to baseball.

Thanks Warpaint!!!! It tends to sneak up on all of us.

Thanks for reminding all of us that pre-season really is all about discovering who can do what, and who can't. I for one do get confused at times and get caught up in the games as if the truly mean something. It's not about winning and losing and making play off runs.

No argument with your points DD, good thoughts.

Oops, Said "Majority" meant "Minority"

I also think a shorten preseason is going to happen with an 18-game regular season. That being said...

I am probably in the majority that thinks this is a terrible idea. I am all for taking preseason down to 3 games (maybe two), but I don't want to see the regular season changed at all. Can you imagine the Colts going 13-0 only to "fake-play" the rest of the season (5 more games).

I am not a fan of college ball because there aren't enough games and it is too easy to cheat the system (Ohio State) by playing no one good. One loss and you are done. With the pro's, 16 is perfect. Anymore and the value of the regular season gets taken away. Again, I know I am in the minority and as much as I love watching football I just can't see 18 games being better than 16.

I hear what you're saying about the whole scrimmage thing Randy but I also know that I personally never once participated in any kind of scrimmage where I and the guys I was playing with did not want to come away with more points then the other guys. It's just the nature of competition and even though a preseason loss doesn't mean that much, I can't help but not like it when I see it.

As far as shortening the preseason / lengthening the regular season goes, I agree that it will likely happen. One of the changes that I heard might go along with that is allowing teams to have bigger rosters as a means of compensating for the increased likelihood of player injuries and fatigue from say a 18 game schedule. If that happens, I'll be eager to see how teams make use of that - e.g., 4 QBs? 2 kickers maybe - 1 for kickoffs and the other for field goals & PA's?