Some quick thoughts from me soon, but here are some of the best reactions from Addicts so far…
KCMizzou:
Let’s talk about some good stuff. Ten bright spots.
1. Pollard and Page tackled well. That’s nice to see.
2. Albert looked pretty damn good.
3. Tony still has it.
4. Charles is going to be a lot of fun to watch for a while.
5. Turk managed to get some pressure and made some quality stops.
6. Dorsey is a big, big man on the inside.
7. Flowers and Carr played well for two rookies in the secondary.
8. Surtain looked much better than he did all year last year.
9. We’ve got some pretty nice depth on the d line.
10. Colquitt is still Colquitt.
Tim:
Some please correct me if im wrong here.
1. What is with the chiefs and hiring dam stubborn offensive co-ordinators. It was pretty darn clear that the plays they are calling are not working. Why can’t the chiefs adapt. If i play doesnt work, you dont call it another two or three times. Eg 1. Running larry into a wall of defenders play after play. What is with the counters, it was so obvious they werent working. I swear i saw like 2 runs to the outside and like one toss play. Larrys big run was a run where he bounced to the outside, big suprise, it worked. Lets just keep running into the scrum and getting next to no yards….
2. We ran the Wr screen 3 times out of the same package to the same side. just differant receivers. Who are you trying to fool, this isnt college football, seriously.
3. if im not correct. I think we attempted 2 passes over 20 yrds. First was picked off, second was a massive catch to darling…. Why do we have a gunslinger if you arnt going to let him throw i deep ball. again… seriously… and dont give me the he didnt have time. Put 7-8 guys on block and just let one receiver run down feild. Who cares if it fails or he over throws it. Atleast it shows you are willing to strech the feild….
4. OMG, the final drive….. Throw it to bowe on 3 out of the 5 attempts…. OMFG… even if tony was covered, what about the other 3 WR you had on the feild. I know D-Bowe is our end zone target but seriously. (the final play was defensive pass interference but i dont care because we should of put it into the endzone on one of the first three atempts. and what was with the draw play. Cancer is in the both, he can see the match up, the pats ran the same package three times in a row, big bill was signing “bait, bait” or “fishing, fishing”. we run same pakage, he runs same package. Arrgggg.
5. Im really suprised we didnt see larry spike the ball into the earths core. If i was him i would be so pissed right now….. Its like being told “hey larry, go run into that wall over there 30 times….”
6. How bout a screen play, or a slants route… We ran them in the preseason. Were they the crazy experimental trick plays ive been hearing about…. Try them in the preseason but they are way to risking for the real season.
I could go all day, but what would that acheive.
One more thing… Make all the bill bilicheck jokes you want… at the end of the day, atleast the pats win games…
Go Chiefs
Lobo48:
I agree with tim and xxxlp on the playcalling. I thought Chan was gonna bring us a little unpredictability; but seems like he was stuck in preseason mode.
I thought our de’s looked good. They were getting into the backfield pretty good. Our dt’s however didn’t get a very consistent push up the middle and therefore all their qb had to do was step up in the pocket. I also thought Gun would bring a few more blitzes than he did. Whenever they blitzed they looked impressive but didn’t do much of it.
Secondary did an admirable job. Was pleasantly surprised with Surtain’s play and rest looked good also with the exception of our lapse when Moss went from endzone to midfield. Should have had one of the younger safties in there instead of McGraw. Don’t get me wrong I like McGraw but he lacks good speed.
Our dt’s were getting pushed around a lot. A lot were double teams, but then someone alse should have been getting in there on blitzes or whatever.
Gonzales was his usual great self but Bowe dropped too many to be called Mr. Awesome. 4sho.. Darling still has only 1 catch, but lord what a catch. I had hoped however that he was a lot faster than he seemed. I thought he should have scored on that play.
Ironman wasn’t bad but thought he tiptoed up to the line several times when he should have just hit the line. I don’t think that he is very happy with being taken out on 3rd downs. I thought Charles looked good. Chan should be doing more “Reggie Bush” type plays with him.
All in all I was sad we didn’t win; but I don’t think that we embarrased ourselves either. Losing to the Pats by 7 probably is better than most of us expected.
So be of good cheer diehard Chiefs fans……….we’re getting better and I hope to see better than a 4-12 season.
GO CHIEFS!!
Saskwatch:
I seen some pretty postive things. Albert played pretty good considering that he had not played in the preseason. Pollard looked better than I ever seen him. Surtain looked better than I expected, and all the young guys seemed to do pretty good. The defense played well except for the one letdown on the long pass out of the patriots endzone.
As far as our quarterback play. I am a brodie backer, and think he might have a chance, but this guy has to stay healthy. As well I am starting to worry about the coaches confidence in him. He has a great arm, but they are not letting him throw the ball down the feild at all. In this game and all last year play calling when Brodie is in the game is run into the pile of players and throw passes between 0 and 5 yards down the feild. When Huard is in there they seem to throw the ball more often and throw it downfield, where Damon clearly does not have the armstrength to throw it.
I would just like to see a play action pass with Croyle in the game that goes more than 10 yards down the field.
Now may greatest fear for this year may come true in that I want Croyle healthy so we can truly evaluate him and know if we need to move in a different direction.
Now for a couple of concerning things. The right side of the oline was scary bad. I thought macintosh would struggle, but he was worse than I expected. I thought larry looked okay considering when he got to the line of scrimmage in most cases there were several bodies in the “hole” he was supposed to run in.
On closing: Please I don’t want to hear how Huard is our saviour. The play calling was much less conservative when he was in there. The 2 big throws he made, one was blown coverage and the other Dbowe made. there were a few throws that were horrible and he was lucky there was only one interception. He also is sack waiting to happen back there. I actually thought brodie played better than his stats indicated. He was pretty accurate and made decent decisions, but the conservative play calling and 3 drops didn’t help.
Overall I guess I would have been pretty happy with having a chance to tie on the last play before the game started, but am I little dissapointed because I really thought we had a chance to steal that one.
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i;m hearin croyle has a shoulder contusion is that like very seriously i never heard of that…although huard played decent i guess you can say that i’d rather brodie in there…wat do yall think??
Brokie has a separated shoulder.
contusion is a deep bruise
That is correct. He separated his shoulder.
is that very serious?? how long is the usual missed weeks if yall do know?? it worriees me cause he needs to play
From menshealth.com
“For first-degree separations, the pain may be gone in two weeks. The most severe kind, third-degree, takes about three months to heal—and often a longer rehabilitation period.”
oh wow!!!
If a person gets a separated shoulder it could mean many things. He may have just dislocated and popped back in with no effects. But usually when there is some type of trauma involved(280lb man driving you to the ground) it means you tore your labrum. Might have to get surgery. If that was the case he is done for the year.
D-Bowe should consider changing his nickname from “The Show” to “No Show.” In spite of his 1 TD catch, no other player did more to lose a game that we could have and should have. Dammit!!
Where’s all the Brodie lovers?
At the funeral.
haha do yall feeel better with him or huard??
I feel better with Brokie when he’s not hurt, but next year we better find a new quarterback or the rebuild process will be pushed back another year in my eyes.
ur exactly right we need to draft another one or sign one i dont know but the quicker we find our franchise quaterback for the future the quicker the rebiuldin process will go and flow alot better
I seen some pretty postive things. Albert played pretty good considering that he had not played in the preseason. Pollard looked better than I ever seen him. Surtain looked better than I expected, and all the young guys seemed to do pretty good. The defense played well except for the one letdown on the long pass out of the patriots endzone.
As far as our quarterback play. I am a brodie backer, and think he might have a chance, but this guy has to stay healthy. As well I am starting to worry about the coaches confidence in him. He has a great arm, but they are not letting him throw the ball down the feild at all. In this game and all last year play calling when Brodie is in the game is run into the pile of players and throw passes between 0 and 5 yards down the feild. When Huard is in there they seem to throw the ball more often and throw it downfield, where Damon clearly does not have the armstrength to throw it.
I would just like to see a play action pass with Croyle in the game that goes more than 10 yards down the field.
Now may greatest fear for this year may come true in that I want Croyle healthy so we can truly evaluate him and know if we need to move in a different direction.
Now for a couple of concerning things. The right side of the oline was scary bad. I thought macintosh would struggle, but he was worse than I expected. I thought larry looked okay considering when he got to the line of scrimmage in most cases there were several bodies in the “hole” he was supposed to run in.
On closing: Please I don’t want to hear how Huard is our saviour. The play calling was much less conservative when he was in there. The 2 big throws he made, one was blown coverage and the other Dbowe made. there were a few throws that were horrible and he was lucky there was only one interception. He also is sack waiting to happen back there. I actually thought brodie played better than his stats indicated. He was pretty accurate and made decent decisions, but the conservative play calling and 3 drops didn’t help.
Overall I guess I would have been pretty happy with having a chance to tie on the last play before the game started, but am I little dissapointed because I really thought we had a chance to steal that one.
Couple Thoughts:
1. Shame on everyone who was yelling about trading Damon Huard..Last time I checked he is the only qb able to really deliver the ball down field and actually throw td’s..Is it a mere coincidence that we scored a fucking touch down right when brodie is gone? I’d really like to know..
2. I’ve given DVD a very hard time and I’m impressed he stepped up..Honestly for someone who was supposed to have a lot of speed I’m a lil dissapointed he couldn’t atleast get into the endzone. Regardless He proved me wrong.
3. I thought chan gailey was supposed to change our offense..The play calling was piss poor today..Honestly..How many times did we run straight up the middle?
4. Why is it that Brodie has an amazing arm, yet we’re sooo cautions with him..For christ sakes we are boring as hell with this guy in the game..Why weren’t we doing any roll outs? I thought the bootleg was going to be a staple of the offense and it certainly would have helped today..I don’t even remember seeing a boot leg today at all..
5. For as much Shit as D-Bowe has talked, he did not look good..He should have caught that second TD pass, and I seem to remember him dropping a huge third down conversation.
6. Even if Brodie is good, this kid gets injured to easily..I’m ready to let Huard just assume the role, and to draft someone in the first round regardless..At least huard throws down field..
I never for a second thought we would win this game..No matter how close we made it, we always found a way to lose the game..I’m sure glad i braced my self..I had a great feeling that once dvd got tackled on the 5, we weren’t going to score at all..
Chan Gailey, get your head out of your ass.Seriously..i expected a lot more out of you..We looked no different than last year, just a bit more competent, but that’s it.
With all the negativity already stated, we did play one of the best teams in the nfl without their star..We’re going to be a competitive team this year, but we need to throw down the field…Here’s to hoping San Diego loses
I’m stealing Brokie, KCM. It’s your nickname, though.
I think everyone pretty much agrees that Brokie needs to get the ball down the field. Let’s not forget that we only suited up three wide receivers for this game as well though. That obviously will impact some of the play calling. Also, just because he throws a ball short doesn’t mean that all of the routes for a given play were short. I’m just not sure that Brokie has the patience and/or even the time to make his progressions and get the ball down the field.
Brodie could be out for a significant amount of time and Huard could be the starter for next weeks game against Oakland who has arguably a better defense than the Patriots. What do the Chiefs do for a back up to Huard? They can’t bring in Tyler Thigpen who has left a certain sour taste in my mouth for the past 2 pre seasons. Who do we pick up through free agency? Quinn Gray?
The Chiefs should look a little more complete with 5 recievers. Especially with the speed of Franklin
Quinn Gray was cut, but I prefer Chris Simms. Either one would work, though.
I prefer Simms too.
I agree, i wouldn’t mind a little more mobility in the back field with LJ, Charles, and Smith back there. Plus a little starting experience never hurt. Looks like Carl and Herm need to go check out the FA out there for a possible starter when they get as fed up with Huard as we have the past few seasons.
I’m not as dissapointed as I though I would be. Our pass defense was awesome in the second half considering that Moss had over 100 yards in the first half and ended with 120.
I’m happy with the defense as a whole (except for a mild disappointment with Hali), but lets not forget that the Patriots got relatively conservative in the later stages of the game so I wouldn’t get TOO excited about holding Moss to 20 yards. Again though, don’t get me wrong, I was plenty pleased with the performance of our defense, and even the team as a whole when you look at the big picture.
Thanks for the recognition guys. I like to think my rants are being read and not just glazed over. You have to remember, watching the game at 3 in the morning live is very differant than watching it at 1 pm. I havent slept, and seeing a game like that doesnt go down to well. No-one question my commitment to this chiefs team.
Am i the only person here who wishes we lost by 40 points and not 4. Atleast if we got smashed it would be easy to swallow. but no, we had to go and get ourselves in game tieing position and then not tie it. Its like ordering a delicious donut, putting it to your mouth, smelling it, and then throwing it in the trash. if your not going to eat it, dont buy it….
ohhh and go easy on d-bowe. Hes only a second year player and hes our go-to guy. Thats alot of pressure right there for a young guy. Remember, hes no randy moss or TJ whosyourmama, well not yet. (How bout that leap, he got like 4 feet of the ground)
Why don’t we just coax Daunte Culpepper out of retirement give him a few weeks to learn the offense and BLAM! we have a starter who isn’t afraid to throw the ball downfield. Temporary fix, gain some mobility might be an option. Rather see him than thigpen or huard
As much as I like Brodie, there’s no choice at this point but to sign someone – Simms too would be my preference. I suspect Brodie will miss next weeks game at the very least. Wasn’t the initial injury that turned Pennington’s arm into a noodle a shoulder separation? Was it the shoulder on Brodie’s throwing arm? If so, he might be out awhile… and we don’t want him coming back in with no arm strength either.
I think play calling was damaged this week by Kolby’s last minute scratch and Franklin’s absence. DVD finally showed us something; two things in fact: 1) he can catch the ball 2) he’s not as fast as we hoped he would be.
Daunte is a moody headcase and a motivational problem in the locker room. He’s the LAST guy we should sign.
P.S. Bob Costas on NBC is reporting Tom Brady likely out for the year with a knee injury on Pollard’s hit.
Agreed on Culpepper. But I can’t believe he is jobless when J.T. O’Sullivan is starting. Isn’t that a chain restaurant?
Adam and Crane,
What exactly is your point about Brodie? As far as I could tell, he did everything he was asked to do and did it pretty well before he got hurt. Matter of fact, I saw in Croyle a QB who showed both cool and unflinching courage. To me, that’s the stuff that franchise QBs are made of.
Oh wait, I remember what it is – he’s not tough enough to play in the NFL, right? Sometimes I think you guys actually wish for him to get hurt just so you can keep crowing that he’s not durable. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, with perhaps 2 or 3 notable exceptions, no NLF quarterback can be durable when he lacks protection. Oh and by the way, newsflash, Tom Brady has just proven that he is not “durable” either.
I think it would be better for us all if you just owned up to the fact that no matter what he does, you do not have it in you to ever like Croyle. I’m so sick of this shit.
Take a double dose of chill pills, Double D.
Getting knocked out of three of seven starts after you were constantly hurt in high school and college means you are severely injury prone.
Look at the best QBs in the league. Favre, Manning, Brady…all made hundreds of consecutive starts. Brokie can’t even do a handful, and barely even a couple. And guys like D-McNabb and Eli Manning play through injuries. Eli Manning played the next week after sustaining what I believe was the same injury as Brodie.
He is tough, by all accounts, but he is fragile. I’m sick of that shit. I don’t want to waste two-three years on a guy who can’t stay on the field. It has nothing to do with him personally. I just get sick of the out-of-control love affair over an 0-7 quarterback who gets hurt every other game.
How many free passes does he get? Apparently, D-Bowe and L.J. get none, so why should he?
I’m not giving him a free pass. If he back as the starter 2 weeks from now, are you still going to claim he’s too injury-prone. You want to hang this loss on him, that’s your opinion. One game does not a franchise-QB make, but what I saw out of Brodie yesterday was a franchise-caliber QB play. You can say he is injury-prone all you like but you cannot at this point go around claiming he doesn’t have the talent or chops to be an NFL QB. Brodie Croyle did not lose yesterday’s game by any stretch; the combination of shitty playcalling and B Movie are why we lost a game that I said we could win in close one and you said we would get blown out. I think I much closer to being right on that account and I think the play of our 2 QBs was a major reason why.
You must have watched a different game than I did.
Brodie Croyle made zero big plays, and Damon Huard threw a pathetic pick and took way more sacks than any QB with guts ever would have. One can’t say that Brodie DOES have the talent or the chops either. What did he prove yesterday? That he can’t stay on the field. If you remember, I’m the one who said I didn’t want him to get hurt so we could give him the whole year. But he already got hurt in the first game after getting hurt in twice last year? Man.
I get it now, though. If Bowe watched hunting DVDs, had a hot wife, never won a game he started and didn’t call himself nicknames everyone would be cool with him.
Excuse me, tell me one thing you saw that Brodie did wrong yesterday? Drop passes? Called predictable plays? And apparently you missed the big plays he made multiple times in the face of hard hit? Be honest Adam, isn’t the real reason you don’t see him making great plays is because you don’t want to?
Huard, our backup QB btw, got picked because his receiver didn’t run his route. You’re going to blame Huard for that? Besides, I’m not even saying Huard is a franchise QB; I’m saying he played as well as any backup could be asked to.
I honestly do not understand why you’re so hell-bent on drafting a QB next year. Doing that is pretty much guaranteed to keep us out of contention for at least 5 years from now. What I saw yesterday is a Chiefs team that’s wants to and is ready to compete . . . now. What game were you watching?
As down on Brodie as you seem to be, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you’re still sticking with (hoping for?) your pessimistic 4-12 prediction.
This “hoping for” stuff has got to stop. It’s utterly ridiculous to think that the person who started and slaves over this site wants the Chiefs to lose.
You are blaming Tony G. for that pick? Huard locked into him and threw into double coverage. I rewound my DVR four times. He threw right in Tony’s area, so I seriously doubt that was the wrong route.
By the way, I love how it is always Bowe or DVD or even Tony G’s fault for running the route, and never the quarterback’s. How does anybody not on the team or coaching staff even know what the route was supposed to be?
I think people are getting carried away in thinking we are ready to win now. Sure, we played them tough, but Matt Cassel was their quarterback–not Tom Brady. Besides, we would be ready to win now if we had some actual quarterback play.
I just know Brodie isn’t the answer. He can’t even make it through a quarter of a season without getting hurt. Forget about opinion’s on his talent, the point is that he will never be able to stay on the field.
One of my favorite sayings, “80 percent of success is just showing up.” That doesn’t give us very good odds with Brodie, now does it.
It’s not that I hate Croyle, it’s just that I think he is terrible for this rebuilding project, that he will hold it back. It’s also the absolute ga-ga love affair some Chiefs fans have over a guy who is 0-7 as a starter and has gotten knocked out of three of those games.
Really sick of talking about this guy. What more is there to talk about? HE CANNOT STAY ON THE FIELD.
What good does having a MVP QB do you if he’s out for the season?
I don’t care who your QB is, 9 times of out 10 if you’re letting people get to him, he’s gonna get knocked out. Brodie always bounces back and he will again. Let’s just hope for the teams sake that Damon can keep us on track until Croyle makes his return. I’m just not up for rolling the dice on QB draft pick that maybe will and maybe won’t get us to where we want to be in 5 years. What’s sick is refusing to see what will likely happen to this team if Croyle ends up not being the answer. You think we have a rebuilding project now??? Be careful for what you wish for Adam.
Adam,
You’ve made it clear many times that you prefer that this team loses a lot of games this season so they can draft high again. I know you believe it’s the right thing to do for the long haul but don’t try to pretend that you’re not in favor of losing.
Just because I truly think it is the best thing for us long term deep down, doesn’t mean I root for it on Sundays. And I think drafting high in every round is important when rebuilding. I mean, look at the draft we had this year.
What’s sick is wanting to continue to waste time on a 35-year-old career back-up and Brokie “Mr. Glass” Croyle. Croyle already is not the answer. I think anybody who is being honest with themselves will make the same realization.
What good does having an MVP QB do? Three Championships, Four Super Bowls and 128 consecutive starts, not to mention a few shattered NFL records along the way. I’d say quite a bit. Maybe I’m just nuts.
Past championships won’t win you anything this year. This year is all that really matters, ever. Especially true for the Chiefs.
I don’t think honesty has anything to do with it. It’s called prejudice. You decided long ago that Brodie Croyle was not the answer. I’ve never claimed to be so prescient – all I’ve ever said was it’s impossible to know whether you have a franchise QB after only 6 starts. The fact that you came right and put Brodie Croyle at the top of your list for why we lost yesterday is just the most recent example. I’m anything but a Bowe hater, but the fact is he was more responsible for losing yesterday than any other player and I’m not just talking about that dropped TD pass either. Bowe’s earlier drops killed no less than 2 drives.
Oh btw, the pick on Huard was on a pass to Bowe, not Gonz. Go back and look at it again. The report I heard said Bowe ran his route too wide which allowed the safety to get under. I know you don’t want to hear it but it kinda sounds like yet another big f up by Bowe to me.
I’m telling ya, Bellicheat got to D Bowe with a bribe.
It was to Bowe after re-watching the tape. But he should have never have thrown that into double coverage, wrong route or not. He also didn’t look at anybody else, just completely locked on. My opinion of that play remains the same.
And the bribe thing is the looniest conspiracy theory I’ve ever heard on A.A.