How Bad Must Chiefs QB Ricky Stanzi Be?

“Put in Ricky Stanzi!”

“Might as well see what we have in Stanzi! The seasons over.”

“No matter what conditioner I use, I just can’t get my hair to have that same body and shine that Ricky Stanzi’s hair has. What is his secret?”

Those are just a few examples of some of the comments I’ve heard from Kansas City Chiefs fans over the past couple of weeks.

Who can blame them?

The current QB offerings being trotted onto the field by the Chiefs, incumbent starter, Matt Cassel and occasional starter, Brady Quinn, are absolutely dreadful. Cassel and Quinn are a combined 196 for 335 for 2,104 yards, six TDs, 15 INTs and 10 fumbles.

So when Chiefs head coach Romeo Crennel benched Cassel for Quinn at halftime of the Chiefs’ 28-6 loss to the Bengals Sunday, it was like swapping out Barney the purple dinosaur for the purple teletubby.

As such, one can understand the calls for third-string QB Ricky Stanzi. The logic is sound. We know the other two guys stink. Cassel and Quinn aren’t suddenly going to become Pro-Bowlers so why bother trotting both of them out there every week. Furthermore, both QBs likely will be given their walking papers at the end of the season. At 1-9, why not turn things over to the only QB on the roster who has a prayer of sticking around in 2013?

While all of that may be true, I think the key to understanding why Stanzi hasn’t yet played an NFL snap isn’t to list the many reasons why he should be given a chance but to consider the reasons why he isn’t and hasn’t been given a chance so far.

One could argue that Stanzi not getting the opportunity to start is just another example of the ineptness of the Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel but that argument doesn’t really hold water.

First of all, Stanzi has played for two head coaches in Crennel and Todd Haley. Neither man has allowed Stanzi to so much as sniff the football during an NFL game. Despite all the terrible QB play and all the blowout losses, Stanzi hasn’t so much as been sent out to hand the ball off at the end of another embarrassing performance. In fact, both Haley and Crennel have considered Stanzi so unimportant that they have both refused to even have him active on game day unless their hand was forced by an injury to one of the other two QBs on the roster.

Is Ricky Stanzi so bad that despite the team being absolutely desperate for decent QB play that two different coaches, both with their jobs on the line, have refused to even give him a try?

Or have the men in charge of running the KC offense, Haley, Crennel and offensive coordinators Bill Muir and Brian Daboll, just been clueless?

It is hard to know anything for sure. We’ve only seen Stanzi play in the preseason and he looked even worse than Cassel and Quinn. It is hard to believe that he would have any chance of coming in now to save the day.

Still, there is no way to know for sure unless Stanzi is given a chance.

What do you think, Addicts? Should Stanzi be given a shot? Will he even be back in Kansas City next year?

Tags: Kansas City Chiefs

  • chiefridgy

    It can’t hurt at this point.

  • Travis Forsyth

    we may not see him until about week15 @ oakland. until then, brady quinn will be our starter since he’s back from injury…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

    though its a tough sell, i say we shoulda kept tyler thigpen. he played ok for a real crappy team, and now we have a good defense, an ok o line, and consistent rbs, and better wrs, but no qb. we made a mistake trading him i say

  • Travis Forsyth

    however i do expect stanzi back in ’13…..
    1. Geno Smith
    2. Ricky Stanzi
    3. Alex Tanney

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

      i say tanney in front of stanzi, and maybe tanney is better than smith but no one will ever know

    • Robert Mccall

      1. Matt Barkley
      2. Chad Henne
      3. Landry Jones

      Stanzi is terrible. Period. Otherwise he would be playing during this most sorry of quarterback performance. Or I would get someone like Matt Flynn next year from Seattle. All three of the current squad suck bad. Move on with a #1 pick and a backup that is very underrated and could take you to the playoffs. A #3 that is a sleeper that you would put in at a time like the current one when things are atrocious. Stanzi is none of those things…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

        barkley? no.

        • Jared Martin

          How can Stanzi be that bad? He has not gotten much of chance with the cheifs in the first place, only playing with 3rd/4th stringers who can’t block worth a shit. He also showed real promise at Iowa where they were on a course for the bcs championship before he got hurt and he owned one of the best passer ratings in college football at the time to. In my opinion I think he was a late-round steal for the cheifs and his draft stock only fell cause he didnt have the best senior bowl.

          • http://www.facebook.com/gingersmalls Michael Smalley

            Stanzi is great! he needs a shot with the 1′s he is the ONLY QB to defeat joe paterno all 3 times they faced off. won three bowl games. one with a true freshman RB (coker, now at stoney brooke ny) against Blaine Gabbert of missouri. He is a Leader and that is what the team needs right now. FREE RICKY STANZI!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/roger.nava.92 Roger Nava

    He was Haley’s pick on draft day and Pioli don’t like it. He wants Cassel to shine.

  • ArrowFan

    If he has anything to offer we will see him start before the end of the year. If we don’t see him then let him walk unless we need a practice squad guy.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    We’ll see him without a doubt, but probably just in the last four games, and probably with some interim head coach. Crennel isn’t going to put him in if he has any hope of keeping his job, which at this point he shouldn’t. But well, it’s the Chiefs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.williams.71697 Kevin Williams

    Might as well put Stanzi in and see what hes got. Its not like its going to hurt anything at this point.

  • Scott Zupek

    This is how the NFL works. Especially conservative “front offices.” I think BQ looks A LOT better for his half then he did before he was injured. Plus RS will have plenty of time to get his chance in the NFL. Just look how long BQ had to wait. MC should be 3rd string and RS should be 2nd. thats my view.

  • Chiefswatch

    I don’t think he is going to save the day. In fact i am quite certain he would be terrible. With that said, who cares? It’s not that i think we can win with stanzi, is that i wouldrather lose with him versus ever hearing “Omaha” again.

    • Chris Fredricks

      Pretty sure anytime you hear “Omaha” at the line of scrimmage it means “I’ve got nothing so I’m gonna toss the ball to the defense”

      • http://www.facebook.com/richard.gordon.5494 Richard Gordon

        I actually laughed out loud at work on this comment.

    • Jim_Satterfield

      I wouldn’t expect any miracles either. But it would be nice to see if he’s even good enough to be kept as a third stringer or if the whole QB lineup needs to go.

  • Soda pop

    I really don’t see it being Quinn’s fault every snap he’s got someone in his face I think he throws a decent ball and deserves a fair shot!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

      i agree. quinns career has been a mountain of misfortunes. rookie contract issues, signed with the ugly browns, injury problems, and now he gets his final shot to prove he can be a good nfl qb and its with the same coaching staff he was with when he got drafted to cleveland!

    • PunjabiPete

      I agree as well. Matt Cassel I am willing to admit is not a great quarterback but (and I believe mostly due to shithole line play) getting happy feet behind this line is a casualty of being a Chief, and I would like to see Quinn get a shot behind a line that gives him more than .5 seconds or however long it takes the DL to stand up and step around our linemen…

      Stanzi in there would do a couple things: 1. It would let us know whether or not to send him to live with Brodie Croyle. Wasting a spot for 3 fucking years so a guy can “develop” is bullshit. Just ask 95% of the people posting on here how Poe is a bust because he’s not leading the NFL in sacks and Jackson sucks too when they are both actually pretty highly regarded. 2. It would leave QUinn somewhat healthy until we can get a line in front of him to see what he can actually do. 3. It would give everyone a reason to watch, because trainwrecks are more interesting than watching a homeless man try over and over in vain to get back on his bike, which is what our team looks like it is doing right now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

        idk i think it would be amusing to watch a hobo try to get on his bike

  • Soda pop

    I think the real issue is the playing calling its horrible. I don’t care who our qb is it sucks and is so predictable. They finally got back to throwing to our tight ends as we had success with that against Atlanta and then totally abandoned it after that! What happened to crossing routes with bowe or short slants!! It’s just nuts every commentator makes a comment about our play calling!! You guys are too stuck on who’s qb!! Brady has no time to throw and he makes quick desicions and then has a horrible coordinator who puts him in horrible situations

    • Scott Zupek

      Couldn’t agree with you more. This is not the same OC that ripped the chiefs a new one, when he was with the Bills. I think this team is trying to hard to play to the strengths and avoid the weaknesses of each guy. Instead they should have the mindset (the entire front office should have this mindset) of “You are playing pro football, time to act like it. I want you to scramble, do it. I want you to throw deep, do it. I want a priest holmes style pitch around the edge, do it.” Instead its “well xyz can’t throw under pressure, so we better run it for 2 plays and then when he gets a chance to pass , qb1 will have to panic because our line is pathetic…oh well time to punt.” next time, exactly same thing.

  • Chiefsfn

    Why not? What do we have to loose? Stanzi could not possibly make this team look worse, because atrocious play on the field does not matter at this point. The only play fans care about now is the one we are waiting for Mr. Hunt to make. Go Chiefs!!!!

    • KCMikeG

      Agreed. Why not give the young guys a shot. So many times their only time on the field is with the camp bodies or soon to be unemployed 3rd & 4th stringers. We could just fast forward to 2013 preseason and begin talent evaluation. Let’s see Stanzi, Whylie, Gray, Eachus, Newsome, Bellamy, Hemmingway, DeMarco and even Mims.

      As far as Stanzi goes there are extenuating circumstances at play. Rarely do teams dress 3 QB’s so he is out of most games automatically. The little play he got in camp revealed he was still in need of development even though he looked no worse than Quinn. Truth is that our QB “competition” never existed. RAC discriminates against rookies. Go back and watch his pressers. He stops just sort of ridicule when asked about rookies playing. The QB order was decided before anyone took the field and because of that the precious reps in camp were never available.
      2011 – Most fans are aware that Stanzi on top of not having any offseason except for some jumping jacks and a movie day was a casualty of the Haley go fuck yourself to Piloi because Stanzi came from Pioli’s buddy Ferentz at Iowa and Palko was brought in by Haley.

      I say give them all a chance. Stanzi especially as he was very promising coming out of Iowa.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.aldridge.73 Jonathan Aldridge

    I think we’re all so distracted about how bad cassel is at starter, that we’re forgetting that cassel shouldve never been a starter. stanzi has proved in the pre season that he sucks badly. quinn has so much misfortunes in the nfl and needs to be cut some slack. 2 of the 3 picks he has thrown this year were dropped by a receiver and a defender was right there to snag it. the other one was when he got hit from behind while he was throwing and it ended up a free pass for a pick. give him a healthy offensive line, good rbs like charles, a way better coaching staff, and a slightly better wr core, he’s good. we shoulda jumped on danario alexander while we had the chance, look how good hes doing in san diego right now!

  • Tim T

    Brady Quinn should be our starter and lets see what he can do. He’s looked much better then cassel in every chance he’s gotten, just none of them have been for long enough. Lets give him, say, at least a whole game or two before we complain about him. And the article adding their stats together just an’t fair – that is much, much, much more on cassel then Quinn.

    • MattJChiefs

      Brady Quinn looked terrible yesterday. I’m not saying he can’t be good, but I don’t think he will be any better. He has a better arm, but he also has some bad decision making.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Yeah. I have never, at any point, seen Brady Quinn look any better than Cassel.

  • Philip Skahan

    …and with the first pick in the 2013 NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs pick….another fat guy from LSU

    • PunjabiPete


  • Norman Gunn

    We need to sign Doug Flutie..

  • Lyle Graversen

    Do I think he is probably THAT bad? Yes

    Do I think we should try starting him anyway since we don’t have anything to lose? Yes

    • Jeremy Parkercom

      Completely agree.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      This I can agree with.

  • Kansas_City

    On Quinn, how can we be absolutely sure he is not good? He had not had much of a chance. I think the analysis should be which of the two – Quinn or Stanzi – have a better chance of becoming a playoff caliber QB. I would play him. If Quinn has no chance, then put Stanzi in.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      I think we can be sure he is no good because whenever he has been given the chance to play he has sucked. He also failed to beat out Tim Tebow. Sorry, the guy just isn’t any good.

      • steve james

        I never thought he was the answer. I hoped he would make a good backup but that hope is gone. Much as I like Cassel as a person they both need to be gone along with Romeo. If you can’t see they both such well…..


    Hey, Patrick,
    This trio of QBs goes to show the Chiefs fans just exactly how deep the ineptitude of the current regime is at putting together a roster that can compete. You notice I didn’t say win a title……just compete and not look like crap doing it. All three of these guys were brought here by Pioli. He said two years ago that he would bring in competition for Cassel. Quinn? Stanzi? As I write this, I am watching the 49ers blow out the Bears on MNF, 20-zip! Collin Kaepernick is lighting it up for the Niners, and with the exception of one wildcat play, he hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL. But, here he is filling in for Alex Smith and running it up against what is supposed to be one of the premier defenses in the league. All three of our guys wouldn’t make one good QB. Really, I would like to see what Stanzi can do, but that won’t happen. Not this year and not with this team. I guess my main point is that no one on the Chiefs knows a damn thing about how to pick talent. With few exceptions, Pioli has whiffed on nearly every one of his picks. And in the NFL, you cannot keep making the same mistakes on your first round picks. Pioli’s only half-way decent first-rounder is Eric Berry. I don’t blame Berry for getting hurt, so the jury is still out. As for Jon Baldwin, he has the talent, but I think he lacks heart. Poe is average at best. As for Houston, we got him by accident. He was a steal in the third after having issues with failing a drug test.
    If a team doesn’t have the guy who can be a really good judge of talent, that team will not win. Getting lucky once in a while with your picks doesn’t cut it. Also, show me what Pioli has done in free agency. Routt was a complete bust, and we gave up a good corner in Carr to sign a replacement who played half a season and is then cut. Every one thought that Winston would be a player for us, and maybe he still will. Hillis? Not. I could go on, but you get the picture. Right?
    I know this about QBs, but I guess like all Chiefs fans, it is hard to stay focused.

    • PunjabiPete

      Yes. Call Dontari Poe “average at best” after 10 games in his first NFL season when he’s consistently done his job out on the field. Thanks for putting that in the top half of your paragraph, made the rest of it unworthy of reading and saved me some time. Do you even KNOW what the NTs job is? It is not to get sacks. It is not even really to make a ton of tackles. A nose tackle’s job (and I played center and guard through high school and as recently as last year for a couple semi-pro local teams) is to clog up the middle. a majority of the time, that is happening. Look at most (I would say at least 70%) of the long runs. They are on the outside. A nose tackle is supposed to clog up the 0 or A gaps, between the center and the guards on both sides. His job, LITERALLY, is to be fat and get in the way. The ends jobs are to either rush, or watch the guard/ tackle gaps. freeing your LBs up to set containment or actually corral everything inside and make tackles. Watch Poe, he does his job pretty damn good for not being in the NFL for more than 10 games. Until you can see what I am talking about, please do not post about talent you know nothing about. Thanks.

      • TAZMOSIS

        I am pretty sure that we all know the job of the nose tackle. My purpose was not to belittle Poe’s growth at his position. But go to someplace like ProFootballFocus and get their take. In their report of the Bengal game they wrote “On the first drive, Poe had a batted pass and a hit on the passer. After that not much, and he faded as the game progressed”. So, now I ask you, former semi-pro-local-player-center-guard, did I make the wrong evaluation on Poe by referring to him as “average”? Maybe he will progress as his career moves on. Good. My point was that where he was drafted, we had more needs that weren’t addressed with our first pick.

  • BurtGummer44

    Not only would I play Stanzi, I’d play all the backups and sit the starters. The majority of the starters on this team are crap with no heart. Maybe with the backups will at least show some heart. The worst that could happen is they lose be 17 or more points.

  • Guest

    The griefs have NO PASS PROTECTION! How could you even think to put Rick in? He’ll get KILLED!

  • Guest

    The griefs have NO PASS PROTECTION! How could you even think to put Rick in? He’ll get KILLED! No one can play behind that line. That would be a death sentence for him. Let Cassel stay in there, make him earn his money by teams annihilating him.

  • Guest

    The griefs have NO PASS PROTECTION! How could you even think to put Rick in? He’ll get KILLED! That would be a death sentence. No one can play behind that line, not even Brady. Let Cassel stay in there and make him earn his money by teams annihilating him.

  • chiefswillbgood

    The griefs have NO PASS PROTECTION! How could you even think to put Rick in? He’ll get KILLED! That would be a death sentence. No one can play behind that line, not even Brady. Let Cassel stay in there and make his money by teams annihilating him. Our line is the real issue, and of course our QB, but if we don’t fix our line, a first round qb isn’t going to fix everything.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gingersmalls Michael Smalley

      Lets get James Ferentz (C) IOWA on the team. reunite him with stanzi and see whats happens. Chemistry will overcome talent. All you need is one breakaway play each drive!.

  • PunjabiPete

    Thank you so much for writing this. I can’t believe how many people think there is some (local) government (meaning the Chiefs governing forces) conspiracy to keep Joe Montana 2.0 out of games. The absolute batfuckery and bugshittery that some of these posters spew for reasons makes people with a higher than 11 IQ want to throw up.

    That being said, at this point I say throw him out there too. Fuck him, how come he gets to end each game without a concussion? I say dig Tanney out of his hospital bed and give him a concussion too, not fair for Matt and Brady to be getting all of them.

  • Danny W

    Who knows maybe if Pretty Ricky turns out to do some good he could get his own shampoo commercial. Look out Troy Polomolu.

  • Benzinho

    No he shouldn’t.
    When you are the third stringer behind two other third stringers, you are probably practice squad material at best.

  • Guest

    GAYboll. classic.