Hunt Says Chiefs Will Carry Over Their Cap Space

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Denny Medley-US PRESSWIRE

According to an interview given by Clark Hunt the week of the Super Bowl, the Kansas City Chiefs finished the season about $20 million under the salary cap. There had been reports of the team being as much as $27 million under the cap, however Hunt indicated that those estimates were a bit high. Under the new rules of the updated CBA, teams can carry over unused cap dollars from one year to the next.

This makes sense. Teams should have that flexibility with their money. For instance, if a team has a number of key players set to hit free agency they may want to save some extra cap space to re-sign those guys rather than blow that money on guys like Shabby Piscitelli.

With the extra $20 million, the Chiefs could outbid just about any other team NFL team for any free agent they might deem worth the money.

Per the terms of the new CBA, the extra money doesn’t just automatically carry over from one year to the next. The team must actually choose to carry the cap room over by submitting a written notice to the league before the start of the new league year. The teams don’t have to carry over all the money. The Chiefs could decide to carry over any portion of their extra $20 million.

According to Hunt, the team has already decided to carry over their space.

“The reason we chose to carry it over is because we anticipate needing it in 2012 and 2013. Both to continue signing our own free agents as well as being able to go out and sign some free agents from outside,” Hunt told 810 Sports just days before the Super Bowl.

I did not hear this Hunt quote until today and so it makes me cautiously optimistic. I say cautiously because simply carrying over the money does not necessarily mean the Chiefs will spend it.

Still, Hunt said that re-signing the teams’ own players is a priority for the Chiefs.

“It’s been a big priority when the team headed in a young direction back starting in 2008. One of the things we had in the back of our mind was when those guys got to the end of their first contract we wanted to be in a position to be able to retain them if they were the type of players that we wanted for the future. We’ve obviously done that with a number of guys over the years. We’ve got a couple of key guys this year, we’ll have a couple of key guys next year and that’s just going to be part of the philosophy. We want guys that start their careers with the Chiefs to play for us as long as possible.”

Carrying over an extra $20 million in cap space only gives the Chiefs more flexibility in 2012. They don’t have to use the money if they don’t want to or if it doesn’t make sense.

As we’ve been saying for a while now, the next few weeks will tell us an awful lot about how the Chiefs will run their franchise. Because they’ve been near the bottom of the league in spending for a while now, many fans have taken to calling them the Kansas City Cheaps.

Those accusations might not necessarily be fair. The Chiefs are a very young team and quite frankly, they haven’t had many big stars worth spending money on since Scott Pioli came to town. Of the stars they do have, the Chiefs have re-signed most of them including Brandon Flowers, Tamba Hali, Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson. I’ve been saying for a while that we wouldn’t really be able to find out if the Chiefs were cheap or not until the time came to retain their starts and pay them big contracts. A young team will only be young and cheap for so long. Eventually, the Chiefs will have to pay or cut players lose. According to Hunt, the Chiefs are very aware that the time to spend is coming.

“When the team went young in 2008, with Herm Edwards as the coach, we ended up with a very young football team which put us way under the salary cap, that was sot of one of the byproducts of that,” Hunt said. “And when Scott came in, he inherited that situation. He’s gone out and added some key free agents as we’ve gone along. But we’ve also signed a lot of very expensive number one draft choices, particularly under the old CBA. A lot of time the way those contracts are structured, they create significant challenges for you from a cap standpoint as you go forward. Last year when I was speaking with some of the media about our salary cap situation, I told them that this situation’s going to change dramatically as we go forward. As we go into 2012 and 2013, we care going to utilize that cap space. Thank goodness we’ve been able to carry over the space that we had in 11′ to 12′ and 13′ because it’s really going to help us, it’s going to give us an advantage against some other teams that will have to let guys go.”

There you have it right from the horse’s mouth. Hunt says the Chiefs are going to change their spending habits.

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Cut that out Mike play nice!, lol

If this is true and he really does have something up his sleeve then he is a genius. Lets just hope the "If" is in our favor. There are a lot of good players on the market and hopefully we will grab them up and everyone will be beating themselves up for criticizing him...myself including.

@JeffManeWhen it comes to my thoughts/opinions of the Chiefs, I love to be proven wrong >< Let's hope Hunt surprises us all this year.

We all know he will spend more over the next two years because the CBA says he has to meet 90% of cap by 2013. I will be impressed though if he does that and spend some roll over money. I know its not mine to spend or manage, I just want an elite team for a few years to come.

You may not agree, but Coach Edwards got a raw deal in K.C. , he may not have been the best Coach for the job, or for what ever reason. But let's give credit where it is due! it was Coach Edwards that started this youth movement in K.C. and brought in a lot of the key young players on this team that today are starting to emerge as some of the top players in the league!

@KeithAlberson He brought in JC, Bowe, Flowers, and Carr.

@KeithAlberson We need to give some credit to the "bad" Chiefs management to helped in those picks also. In turn, some credit for those who helped develope them. It was and continues to be a team effort. Now let's be patience enough to see if Clark is as good as his word. I remember Glass saying he was moving to KC after he bought the Royals, not every owners word is all that good.

I do not want to hear excuses! I want to see action! I want to see the owner and the GM to show the fans that they give a damn! Spend that money!!!!!!

Cautiously optimistic is a good phrase for this. I'd be willing to say you can remove the cautiously, for me. If the Chiefs keep rolling over money then they can't allow that amount to get too big or it will be a PR disaster for them. In this way it somewhat forces them to spend. I don't think this can truly be looked at in a negative light (unless you put some effort into it) because, as you mentioned, this adds flexibility to the Chiefs. Realistically, I look at the money rolled over and say, "That money is for the re-signing of Carr and Bowe." I think that because 20 million is roughly how much I figure it would cost to re-sign them.

@Ehud Seriously right. Where would we be if we had blown money on the numerous FA flops over the last few years? We would be having to choose between resigning both Bowe and Carr OR only getting one or two great FA's. Now we can sign them both AND be able to pay what it takes to get some excellent FA's. There are some really top shelf players out there, other than QB, that will make us a contender with the draft being a bonus to a really strong unit on both sides of the ball. Geez - I sure wish Hunt and Pioli could get a clue on how to run this team!

@KC MikeG @Ehud Of course we are not really talking about 20 million, are we? More like 60+ mil over last 3 years. Also the year to spend it may be in 2013, not 2012. Not so much about Crennel but Daboll will have needs to implement his plan on offense and may need this year to shake out what is here with what he envisions. When you get a new coach, you need to give him time to get it together.

I would venture to say that the words coming out of Clark's mouth came from the new PR guy they just hired. He probably told him, you have to do something to soothe the koolaid drinkers and give them some arguing points that you aren't a cheapscate. It will all go away after a short spell and you can go on stuffing every dollar that you can pry out of the franchise into your jeans. Now how about that raise?

I wonder how many peolpe are gonna back pedal and go back on what they said only a week ago. Like i said i believe in my owner and my GM GO CHIEFS!!

@rockygentleman LOL "myowner and my GM", you a pet or do you somehow own them? LOL

@tm1946 i bet your one of the people that's gonna back pedal i call them "my owner and my GM" because i am a chiefs fan. Never have been or ever will be a pet so you can take your jokes and keep them to yourself tm1946 now "lol" that

The guy was just expressing his love and trust for his team. Why are you always such a jerk?

@Big Jim thank you Jim thats all i was doing

@Big Jim It's hard for those not emotionally involved to understand statements using "Our team, We won, My Chiefs" comments. Amazing how even the most positive news can be just shit hammered into a steaming heap of disappointment.

My dad tippped me off about this interview the day of. Its a nice PR play for the Chiefs. Act like saving this money was the plan all along. Of course they couldn't have known about this carry-over in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 or 2010, when they were also at the bottom of the league in spending. But that will hardly matter to the mouth-breathers who read about this interview and crow "I told you so" about money that hasn't even been spent yet. Notice also how Clunt tries to associate the basement salaries with Herm's 2008 rebuilding plan. Sorry dude, these tactics predate that by two years. Coincidentally, at PRECISELY the time when Clark took control of the team. And now that the rules mandate he spend 90% of the cap, suddenly he was planning this move all along anyway. Give me a fucking break, man. An additional LOL to the idea that Pioli's team now has a low payroll because of Herm's team four years go. Clark says this while simultaneoulsy complaining about the high first-round pick salaries. I ask you, where would our payroll be without those? I'll be happy when we're forced to spend almost as much as other teams, but that isn't something we should pat Clark on the back for. These past six years happened, and there is no excusing them. The only positive I'm taking from this interview is that Clunt at least seems to understand that he's pissed people off. Took him about five years to pick up on that. Probablly because he doesn't live in, or give a shit about, Kansas City.

@Big Matt We are wrong just look at the posters. Hope we are wrong and Clark is really planning that far in advance. After all we cannot for the money spent and it is in his bank account. Wonder if he will also spend the interest that money has accrued sitting in the bank. But I will believe him until he does not spend it, say end of season 2013.

@Big Matt I'm very impressed that you restrained yourself for two whole weeks before you continued your criticism of the Chief's administration. So why wait? Man, you must have been about ready to explode holding this in that long. I'm also sure you are dead on that Clark absolutely couldn't of had any idea at all of what the new CBA could possibly have included. Most multi-million dollar business have a clue or two about what is ahead for their industry but the whole thing was a complete surprise. Got it. By the way in 2007-08 only four teams had a higher total payroll than the Chiefs so you will need to remove that from your string of spending disappointments. I looked back and here is what I see. The truth is that this problem started after the 2000 season when spending by the league escalated but ours didn't creating a $50M delta. In 2000 most every team spent around the same amount - just under $60M. Then in 2001 a few teams jumped the shark and started spending lots more while we resisted the spending splurges many teams went on from 2002 to the present. Our total payroll hit over 77M in 2003 and crept in the 80M range in 2004 and has hovered there ever since. So hanging all this on Clark isn't accurate or fair when Lamar and Carl were in charge when it started and while we fell behind. That's why we have so many of our draft picks are starting and why we are weak in our depth in most positions. Clark is responsible for trusting Carl and Herm's 2006-2008 plan to rebuild with not just youth. He gave them over $25M more than we had spent for years in 2007. There were few big deals we did with our draft picks that worked but far fewer than the number that didn't. Most FA's just didn't pan out either and were cleansed 2008-2009. I wish we would have spent more money 2009-2011 too but there honestly aren't that many FA success stories out there. The Eagles spent $200M in the offseason to end up where we did so obviously spending alone isn't the answer. The hole (4-12 & 2-14) that was dug by not keeping up with the spending is what, along with numerous bad coaching/player decisions, is what we have been digging out of over the last few years. I believe the right decisions are being made as a whole but that there have also been some really terrible ones too. The decisions over the next two years will be the tipping point between the return to the despair of the past decade or a return to our historic roots. I'm going to be cheering for the latter. I believe that the money Clark Hunt has held back will be spent as he said it will be on locking in Bowe and Carr in the next few weeks and aggressively getting a few FA's that fill our holes immediately. I do hope that they hold some back for resigning the great young talent we will want to keep in 2013 and 2014. If that is in fact what happens I'm not going to tell you "I told you so" - I won't need to as you will already know. I would think you would at a minimum be able to enjoy that you have Clark's word printed for all to see regarding spending the excess over the next two years. Rather than insulting us "mouth breathers" for seeing the positive potential of the excess cap money why don't you share with us optimistic fans exactly how much Clark Hunt will have to spend in 2012 and 2013 for you to admit you were wrong?

@KC MikeG @Big Matt Sorry could you rewrite this in about 20 words, to long to read.

@tm1946 @Big Matt Sorry, sometimes I forget the reading level of some of my audience. Let me simplify. In 2000 ALL teams spend same $$. Then some spend more. Then most spend more. Problem started in 2000 vs 2006. Clark spent top $$ in 2007 = NOT always cheap. Money not spent last 3 years has let us resign all our good players and left extra $$ to get what we need in FA's 2012/2013 and still sign Bowe and Carr = Good decisions by Hunt and Pioli. Hopefully this will inspire you to read the entire previous post so you can better understand what got us to 2-14 and how these good decisions have positioned us to take advantage in 2012/2013.

@KC MikeG @tm1946 @Big Matt In all fairness, Mike, the cash not spent in 2011 left us shallow at many positions, including RB and Safety, possible one decent FA away from repeat div champs. Just sayin'.

@sidibeke @kc @tm1946 @BIG I agree that we were definitely short at safety but not RB. Our coaching staff missed a huge opportunity to use McClain like the Ravens did in 2008. Instead we tried to force Jones (old) and Battle (Not) to be something they aren't. Just because Battle had a break out game vs the Colts who were so bad my Grandma could have put up a hundred on them. As far as safety goes I was excited for us to get Merriweather but he sucked and got benched. I have asked, many times, for someone to produce the FA's from last year we should have spent the money on along with their stat line this year. No takers so far. Sproles and Babin are the only two I can think of. We were only two blocked FG's or one Bowe dropped TD pass vs the faiders from the repeat. Another FA wouldn't have fixed any of those mistakes.

@KC MikeG @kc @tm1946 @BIG Fair enough. There was the safety the Pats cut during camp that we were slow to move on. I know there were other safeties, any of which would have been an upgrade. Sure, 2 blocked FGs, but what about the deep pass in OT? Don't think a better safety group could have helped prevent that? But we could play that game all day. :) Lots of missed opportunities that we hope won't be left on the field next season. And I agree, I would have liked to see more McClain.

@sidibeke @kc @tm1946 @BIG Yes, I had forgotten about james Sanders. He ended up going to ATL playing in 15 games with 41 tackles, a fumble recovery and 2 passes defended. Shabby had 34, 2 FF, 1 PD so he would have been a little better than Shabby. Not sure what he cost ATL but his contract with NE was $2.8M while I'm sure we had Shabby much, much cheaper. I thought about the big burn in OT too, which a better safety could have stopped. But again if any one of those other 3 opportunities happen it never gets to OT. There were many other games though where the safety deficiency hurt us - TE's down the seam - ugh. How on earth did the offensive coaching staff miss McClain??

There's my favorite pit bull. Go get em Mike! Proof of your statements are taking place right now. Pittsburg is 11 million over cap right now and having to cut players they don't want to cut. The truth is that the jackels should actually wait until there are Chiefs carcasses on the ground before going on a feeding frenzy.

@Big Jim Thanks buddy! Funny that was my nickname in my corporate sales days! Once I got a hold of an opportunity it was just a matter of time before they were my customer. Never give up - never say die! I'm the same way about my family, my faith, my friends and my Chiefs! Excellent example in Pittsburgh. Read a sad story about how after showing Arians the door against Ben's wishes now they may let Hines go. The article was about how "the business" shows no respect for players that have been vital cogs in the team's and/or the organization's success. Peyton is another example. He made the Colts who they are and as soon as he hits a hurdle and they can see his replacement on the horizon - see ya. Help me understand how these fans can find so much wrong, see the negative and criticize all decisions and be so angry/hateful towards the team they love? I don't get it but I'm here for the long run to defend my team and relish the journey to greatness.

Also in your next post could you put in some pictures because tm1946 has trouble reading. You should be more thoughtful!

@Big Jim I'll have to see if my 1st grader could translate for him! Or maybe BM can take tm in his time machine back to 2000 and follow along from there together.

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Wow. This exposes some "forethought" where we once thought there was none. Also, makes me think he's more of a riverboat gambler than I gave him credit for. He's been holding cards and taking a bum rap for it. Now, while I'm encouraged, I'm also skeptical but, if Hunt and Pioli have been holding back buying power in anticipation of many other teams in the league being forced to cut some quality players loose... and then they actually snatch up some of those quality players... I'm going to be a bit dumbfounded. And pleasantly surprised. Looks like the Chiefs are in the Hunt.

As much as I have never really liked Clark, I always knew that he HAD to have something up his sleeve (I say 'had' because even he has to be aware that winning at least one playoff game will be needed to keep Arrowhead filled each week). It's good to know that he has at least taken the first step in spening some of his money. Now . . . it's time to wait and see if he is good on his word.

Could be coach/owner speak, but until proven otherwise, it's music to my ears. I have to wonder what question Hunt was being asked when the picture was taken (perhaps one about the possibility of his GM being OCD?)

KeithAlberson 13 pts

Cut that out Mike play nice!, lol

JeffMane 9 pts

If this is true and he really does have something up his sleeve then he is a genius. Lets just hope the "If" is in our favor. There are a lot of good players on the market and hopefully we will grab them up and everyone will be beating themselves up for criticizing him...myself including.

mikhel 133 pts

JeffManeWhen it comes to my thoughts/opinions of the Chiefs, I love to be proven wrong >< Let's hope Hunt surprises us all this year.

mnelson52 5 pts

We all know he will spend more over the next two years because the CBA says he has to meet 90% of cap by 2013. I will be impressed though if he does that and spend some roll over money. I know its not mine to spend or manage, I just want an elite team for a few years to come.

KeithAlberson 13 pts

You may not agree, but Coach Edwards got a raw deal in K.C. , he may not have been the best Coach for the job, or for what ever reason. But let's give credit where it is due! it was Coach Edwards that started this youth movement in K.C. and brought in a lot of the key young players on this team that today are starting to emerge as some of the top players in the league!

ArrowFan 205 pts

KeithAlberson He brought in JC, Bowe, Flowers, and Carr.

tm1946 183 pts

KeithAlberson

We need to give some credit to the "bad" Chiefs management to helped in those picks also. In turn, some credit for those who helped develope them. It was and continues to be a team effort.

Now let's be patience enough to see if Clark is as good as his word. I remember Glass saying he was moving to KC after he bought the Royals, not every owners word is all that good.

eclipsegt1983 17 pts

I do not want to hear excuses! I want to see action! I want to see the owner and the GM to show the fans that they give a damn! Spend that money!!!!!!

Ehud 147 pts

Cautiously optimistic is a good phrase for this. I'd be willing to say you can remove the cautiously, for me. If the Chiefs keep rolling over money then they can't allow that amount to get too big or it will be a PR disaster for them. In this way it somewhat forces them to spend. I don't think this can truly be looked at in a negative light (unless you put some effort into it) because, as you mentioned, this adds flexibility to the Chiefs.

Realistically, I look at the money rolled over and say, "That money is for the re-signing of Carr and Bowe." I think that because 20 million is roughly how much I figure it would cost to re-sign them.

KC MikeG 319 pts

Ehud Seriously right. Where would we be if we had blown money on the numerous FA flops over the last few years? We would be having to choose between resigning both Bowe and Carr OR only getting one or two great FA's. Now we can sign them both AND be able to pay what it takes to get some excellent FA's. There are some really top shelf players out there, other than QB, that will make us a contender with the draft being a bonus to a really strong unit on both sides of the ball. Geez - I sure wish Hunt and Pioli could get a clue on how to run this team!

tm1946 183 pts

KC MikeGEhud

Of course we are not really talking about 20 million, are we? More like 60+ mil over last 3 years. Also the year to spend it may be in 2013, not 2012. Not so much about Crennel but Daboll will have needs to implement his plan on offense and may need this year to shake out what is here with what he envisions. When you get a new coach, you need to give him time to get it together.

jimfromkc 45 pts

I would venture to say that the words coming out of Clark's mouth came from the new PR guy they just hired. He probably told him, you have to do something to soothe the koolaid drinkers and give them some arguing points that you aren't a cheapscate. It will all go away after a short spell and you can go on stuffing every dollar that you can pry out of the franchise into your jeans. Now how about that raise?

rockygentleman 49 pts

I wonder how many peolpe are gonna back pedal and go back on what they said only a week ago. Like i said i believe in my owner and my GM GO CHIEFS!!

tm1946 183 pts

rockygentleman

LOL "myowner and my GM", you a pet or do you somehow own them? LOL