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1 FACTSFACT TWO: The name “Chiefs” is not derogatory nor a racial slur… “Redskins” is.

While the Redskins have lost the copyright to their team name and may

lose millions in merchandising costs… the Chiefs never will.

I’ve heard many fans talking about the the subject of the Washington team name then turning around and accusing other teams like the Chiefs and the Seminoles from doing the same thing. Honoring “Chiefs” and the tribal name of Seminoles is the opposite of what’s going on in Washington. Sooner or later I expect the NFL to step in and take action but sadly that will probably be based upon a financial decision.

 

1 CRACKSCRACK TWO: The Chiefs are being built around the bigger faster Seattle Seahawks model. FALSE.

The whole Seahawks team is not made up of huge fast and vicious players.

While the Seahawks corners are taller and their Strong Safety Cam Chancellor is 6-3, Free Safety Earl Thomas is 5-10, Russell Wilson is 5-10, two of their backup CBs are 5-10 and 5-11, plus starting WRs Doug Baldwin and Percy Harvin are 5-10 and 5-11 respectively.

Some may be over generalizing when it comes to the whole Seahawks roster. Yes, the defensive backs are big boys with long arms and speed to boot but, they only make up a portion of their roster. Besides, it looks like Russell Wilson, a noted game manager, is doing alright to me.

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  • berttheclock

    This is one very strange story concerning Mark Harrison. Yes, he was with the Pats, but, in what capacity? He had been picked up by the Bears, but, he broke a bone in his foot. Then, the Pats tried him only to place him on a non-football injury reserve. He spent a great deal of his time with the Pats just walking around in sweats. The Pats decided to try him out as a move TE, one that does stay in to block. They say at Rutgers he did show a propensity for screening off D-backs, but, he did little blocking. At some point, he walked away from practices and, finally, the Pats dumped him when he was late to OTAs.

    So, is this some version of “Do not leave any gifted athlete behind” by Dorsey? Because, in addition to other issues with him, he has never been known for consistency in catching passes. What bothers me about this is after Jonathan Baldwin, I do not have much confidence in tall wide outs from the Big East. The D-backs in that league are not the greatest in the world and, often, tall wide outs can appear to shine in the Red Zone.

    Well, enough for my Debbie Downer beginning to this last great day of spring in the western world. With Solstice tonight, a new beginning for tomorrow and beyond. Summer is nigh and so is St Joe and training camp. Therefore, I’ll just do a little “Midsummer’s Night Dreams” pretend frolicking and dream the good dreams of far better days ahead for the Chiefs.

  • berttheclock

    Apartment and condo owners in Greater KC are just going to love having a scatological tenant as a lessee.

    • sidibeke

      Hopefully he makes the team and he can afford to buy.

      • berttheclock

        This story of the destruction of the hotel room reminds me of tales told in Toronto when the Blue Jays brought young players in from the Dominican Republic.

  • Hawthorne

    When it comes to the name change, it’s not really about what’s offensive. 90% of native Americans do not find redskins offensive (real pole not an arbitrary number). Oklahoma means ‘red people’ in Choctaw and some NA schools use redskins as their team name. As to whether the chiefs will have to change their name or logo really has nothing to do with how Native Americans feel about it. It’s more how politicians feel about it.

    • berttheclock

      Funny thing about what appears to be offensive to some. Name? Horrors, but, in the fifties and sixties, Billy Mills and other students from Haskell Institute in Lawrence, Kansas could not enter many restaurants and bars in that “liberal” bastion.

    • ChiefTucson

      You are correct! Politicians will do anything to get us distracted from the miserable job they are doing! Latest poll was 7% confidence in Representative and Senators in Washington DC.

    • John Walsh

      You can’t ignore the fact that, in any given population, you’re going to find at least one disaffected person who decides that something offends him or her.

  • berttheclock

    Whether there is any name change, this team will always be the “Chiefs” to me. Proud name with absolutely nothing derogatory about the name. If I remember correctly, one of the versions I heard of the naming of the team was a contest for the new name and some fellow connected with a local trucking company named “Chiefs’ submitted the name. I know there are other versions. But, as an old railroader from the glory days of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe, I remember fondly the great passenger trains of John Santa Fe rolling down the main line through Argentine, the Super Chief, the Chief, the San Francisco Chief, the Texas Chief.

    I still recall sitting in grade school at Stanley writing on a “Chiefs” tablet.

    Yes, this great tradition in KC will always be “The Chiefs”.

    • KCMikeG

      The KC Mayor was nick-named “Chief” That’s where Lamar got the name. Our Chiefs have a proud and honorable connection to the Native Indians. Below is the link from Arrowhead Pride that tells the story. Thank goodness we weren’t named after the #2 choice – it would have destroyed my maligning of the donkeys!

      http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/5/18/878497/how-the-kansas-city-chiefs-got

      • berttheclock

        Thanks. Yes, I have read how the Mayor who offered the Chiefs a sweetheart lease at Muni had been called that due to his work with the Boy Scouts. That sweetheart deal really incensed Charlie and was one the prime reasons he mistakenly took the A’s to Oakland.

  • Alex Rodman

    Harrison is good. Bowe has some off-field problems but I don’t see anybody going after him.

  • Deaudrey Dre-Mac MacDonald

    This is a very accurate look at our Kansas City Chiefs. The 1 thing about the Harrison kid is…can he run precise routes. From the short tape he has Randy Moss speed but when not lazy Randy could run great routes. Maybe he can be this years DHarris…never know!? Good read Laddie!!!

    • ladner morse

      To end up with these freaky good players… you have to take a chance on the freaky good players.

      • berttheclock

        Leave no freaky good player behind.

      • Reggie Flenory

        Love your articles bro

  • Chris Tarrants

    So we get rid of a WR who is just crap in Baldwin but pick up a WE who plays with his crap? You can’t make this crap up! Just another day in the life of a chiefs fan. As far as DAT goes he should be a much better option than Dex was, personally I feel that the bam black mamba is much better than DAT

    • ladner morse

      You crack me up!!!!!!!
      However… that was the crappiest post ever! :)

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I give his post a #2

        • ladner morse

          Thanks…. I needed to laugh today!

      • Jim Harper

        Proof positive that cracks should be stepped on. This kid reminds me of Randy Moss. I seem to remember the incident and if I recall correctly there were other players involved. Knocking him completely out of the draft seems like a huge overreaction.

  • Jason Mauzey

    While I don’t doubt that Harrison could make a great big body edition to KC, I don’t see Smith as the type of QB to target him much. Smith prefers targets that have seperation so he can keep his picks low. This isn’t a bad thing though because we all know Smith is very good at deciding to run for 7-14 yrs when necessary. Based off the tape I’ve seen of Harrison he often just over powers DBs and takes the ball this particular tape excluded. If he thinks NFL LBs or CBs will bounce off him like they did in college he will be in for a surprise. I could see him being a good red zone threat or good for a short screen for a 1st down. With that said I see why the Pats tried him at TE before releasing him.

    • John Walsh

      Smith will throw to the man who has separation, but he also has not problem putting it up to a receiver in tight coverage, sometimes with three covers around the receiver when the ball comes in. If Harrison is the type who can take the ball away from the corner, Smith will put it there. He did it often enough with Crabtree and Davis, even Williams on a stop and go. :)

      • Jason Mauzey

        John I was basing my opinions on his production with KC. Prior to his move, I never tracked Smith. From what I saw last year he really opened up as the D was stunted by injuries and what I felt like was an inability to adjust by Sutton when teams were beginning to exploit gaps. I think had Smith began to release balls like he did our team would not have performed as well as we did. I hope he continues the second half tempo out the gate and I eat my words about Harrison.

      • Kisersosay

        Based on that tape I don’t see a guy(Harrison) that would take it away in tight coverage. Hands catchers to that…..Harrison is a body catcher. Unless he is getting separation with his speed and route running I don’t see him making the team.

  • Reggie Flenory

    We need a wide out wit some size i hope we keep harrison

    • area

      Already have two on the roster at wide out, Bowe and Hemmingway. If you are looking for even bigger then you are talking about Fasano, McGrath, Harris, Kielce. We lack speed with hands, nothing more.

      • Reggie Flenory

        Hemmingway lack explosiveness and is more of a possession wr same wit bow harrison stands 6’3 and has sub 4.4 speed and leaping ability im hoping he is this yrs marcus cooper

        • area

          Oh, I hear you. It’s just that everything I’ve read about Harrison is negative. Maybe he matured, maybe all the reports are hyperbole, I certainly hope so. I just seriously doubt it. The f.o. is said to be a never stopping engine, leaving no stone unturned. I attest that the f.o. sees a lot of holes on the roster, not enough draft picks to address those needs, they had a lackluster off season and are now grasping at straws. If Harrison makes it past the first round of cut backs I will be surprised.

          • Reggie Flenory

            Id say with only 6 pics amd strapped cap space hey had a pretty good off season especially if you throw in that fulton might be ready to start at guard that means we gotta good startimg off lineman in the 6th roumd not to mention dat, ford, and gaines i think its quality over quanity

          • berttheclock

            If any team can gain a starter, especially, on the O-line from the sixth round, then, they have stolen that player. The Steelers are going to start a LT who was a 7th round pick in 2012. This is where Dorsey excels in finding quality in both the lower rounds and in undrafted free agents.

    • superman_25_58

      Size and Speed which Harris seems to have would be really nice if he could get it together

  • Josh Landers

    Great read, as always. I’d also like to add that I think our dl will see a major improvement this year. Catapano and bailey have both bulked up to 300+. Walker should be at least as good as t-jax. And devito started a new diet to add some quickness. If our new look secondary turns out to reach its potential, I think this defense is going to be scary good.

    • ladner morse

      Four Stars. Good post!

    • berttheclock

      Speaking of bulking up. Who is Number 66 in the three day minicamp photo posted to the right above? The fellow looks as big as Eric Fisher. LDT, perhaps? Plus, the defensive player wearing Number 93 to the left of Fisher is not very small.

      • John Walsh

        #66 is DeRon Furr, LB from Fort Valley State … 6’3″ 225. #93 is Kona Schwenke 6’4″ 297 from Notre Dame.

        • berttheclock

          Thanks. Photo is a bit deceiving as 66 looks as large as Fisher.

  • freshmeat62

    When the “Insulted Indian Community” (IIC) (I made that up) get their own people in line w/ being so insulted by these sports teams using their names and products, then maybe Ill listen to them. A couple years ago I was at Oak Park Mall and there was an Indian fellow there at a booth selling Indian paraphernalia. Anything from the big fancy headdresses with a hundred or more feathers, to pipes, paintings, and hundreds of other trinkets. At no time was anything mentioned about the sacredness of Indians traditions, so be careful w/ how you treat these items. Where is the IIC there? I’ve been to Cherokee, NC where they sell all kinds of Indian stuff. No IIC reps there. Where is the IIC outrage in those places? All those people want to do is sell their stuff, and don’t give a damn in how it is treated. So all of these PC folks can stuff it.

    • ladner morse

      Just because we can get away with something…………. doesn’t mean we should. My mommy taught me that one.

      • freshmeat62

        I’m not talking about getting away w/ anything. Maybe if I had bought their stuff, but I don’t. I’m talking about the hypocrisy involved w/ most PC issues.

  • Curtis

    My understanding from a Native American friend is that “Redskin” is a word that originated with the Natives in reference to their Warriors who painted their skin red before going into battle. He pointed out that many Native American schools still refer to themselves as Redskins. It made sense to me when I thought, “Who would name their team something derogatory? Isn’t it supposed to be something admirable?”

    • ladner morse

      I can guarantee you that when the “Redskins” were established in 1932 that people were not thinking about…. tolerance… understanding racial differences… freedom for one = freedom for all… cultural rights… sensitivity to minorities… and prejudicial attitudes and actions.

      It’s never to late to do the right thing. Hopefully our “American Dream” is all about that.

      • Curtis

        Perhaps you’re right. I still wonder if we then demand the Native American schools to lose the “Redskin” mascot as well.

        • ladner morse

          Change… in America… usually happens from the top down. If Congress or the NFL Commissioner (the authorities who can make this happen) force this change… other schools at the college and high school levels will likely follow suit, over time.

          It’s a bit like displaying a swastika symbol. Many customs in history have used it and it of course is benign in it’s meaning for them and towards us. However… because the Nazis used it too… to use it now would be a betrayal to the many affected by the Holocaust.

          Each individual is either dedicated towards attempting to be sensitive towards these issues… or not… and in which case those individuals often are attempting, with futility, to poke holes in the fabric that has become the America quilt.

          It is our “like sensitivity” that stitches the seems, and broadens the quilt ever wider. None of us are perfect but, this is a legacy we can all aspire to.

    • KCMikeG

      I heard it was named from the “red skin” that came with the scalping of a settler. Gruesome but who really knows the truth. Certainly that wasn’t what they intended in naming the team. The Indian logo is obviously a respectful image especially when compared to the Cleveland Indian image.

  • Andy

    Agree with most. OL and DB are still the position of need going to camp, maybe because of quality, but surely because of of the players unknown qualities.
    Couldn’t agree more about Reid and his DC. Reid can handle the O side of the ball, with ‘any 11 players off the street’ . (Sarcasm) I would argue that our breakdown last year is at the feet of Sutton. Once the league figured us out, he did not adequately make adjustments. Dorsey has given him better players that fit his D scheme…We will see

    • ladner morse

      I guess Sutton convinced Reid he didn’t ave good enough player to do the things he was asking them to do in his scheme.

      Now what will they say if they can’t get the job done? I guess Reid can just axe Sutton.

      • Andy

        Loyalty is a two ended sword. Coach Dick was loyal to a fault. Let’s hope Reid is level headed and loyal.

  • KCMikeG

    Sounds like this kid needs a father figure coach. You couldn’t find a better one than Reid. He may not ever play a down for us but I really like that Dorsey is exploring every opportunity he believes will make us better. IMO we are going to be in excellent shape ar WR/TE. My concerns are more with the DB’s followed by the OL.

    • ladner morse

      I agree the TE situation is going to be very good but I’m unsure about the WR situation and still think Dorsey will be scanning the waiver wire in August to pick up someone who is fairly high profile but will sign him for cheap.

      • berttheclock

        The last preseason game with the Packers will be a scouts dream game. Cincy could be interesting in the first game, as well. Cincy has been noted as one of two teams, the other being the Seahawks, who have built depth with former starters and not just throw away players.

      • KCMikeG

        Don’t you think having TE’s that will line up and play like WR’s like Kelce and Harris fill part of the void from last year?

  • Stan Colbert

    1.) The Chiefs were reportedly interested in Bethea before he signed with 49ers.
    2.) This isn’t the same country we grew up in. Anyone who is charismatic enough to get people to give money to condemn an issue can accomplish the task. You never know?
    3.) Reid at his press conference had the look of a very happy man not the look of someone who was concerned about what lies ahead.
    4.) I think the preseason could be very important for Mr. Bray.

    • ladner morse

      Predictions
      4. Bray will look like Favre before the preseason ends.
      3. Reid will look even happier when the preseason ends.
      2. Money will force a name change… not ethics.
      1. Bethea has one, maybe two, good seasons left. He’ll be 30 next month.

      • Stan Colbert

        The name, I care not a bit; the ethics, I mourn sorrowfully. There is an article on Oklahoma name change. I just hope they don’t decide my food and water are med. treatment.

        • berttheclock

          The Chiefs were interested in Bethea, but, not his price range request. The deal with the Niners is around $5-6 M a year for 4 years. I don’t know the the guarantee amount. However, his skills in pass defense has fallen off, but, he is fierce as a tackler. His tackles are of the jarring kind. The Niners had to offer him a large contract due to their loss at safety. Whether, he will ever see the entire 4 years with the Niners is questionable. The Chiefs could have never afforded to match the Niners’ offer.

          • Stan Colbert

            The thought was the Chiefs reached for Safety during free agency which could be taken to mean they are not entirely satisfied with their position situation.

          • ladner morse

            Yes… but that’s also why they re-signed Husain Abdullah. Plus, they knew they had drafted Sanders Commings last year so they weren’t going to go out on a limb to make a big splash.

          • Stan Colbert

            You brought up Sanders and what it might mean, I just pointed out their were reports on Bethea also. I deduced the possibility of same reason for both situations.

          • Stan Colbert

            I do have a question for you. Regarding Murray and the pup list. How much can he do not to qualify?

          • berttheclock

            I’ll take a shot. As far as I know he can practice at training camp, then, be placed on the PUP list by August 31. He has to stay on that list for six weeks, then, between the sixth and 11th week , he can practice 21 hours. However, at the end of the 11th week, the team, either, has to activate him or place in him on IR for the remainder of the season.. They can not put him back on the PUP list. They can not put him on the taxi squad.

          • Stan Colbert

            So he can not play in preseason games?

          • berttheclock

            No, he could play, then be placed on PUP. What many do not want to see, either as players or fans is for him to be placed on IR, which would exclude from the entire season. If they tried to place him on the taxi squad, another team would grab him.

      • berttheclock

        But, the far bigger question is what the hell is the excellent AA staff going to find to write about for the next 30 days?

  • micah stephenson

    A tall fast rookie wr….I LIKE IT! Harris looks good.

  • micah stephenson

    The Redskins name is racist! The players in Washington should refuse to play untill they change it. They would never allow a team to b named the Washington Whities, Denver Darkies, or New England N**ga’s, so why is is the Redskins acceptable?

    • ladner morse

      That’s exactly my point. Well said Micah!

      • berttheclock

        Yes, and there will never be the Portland Honkies

      • berttheclock

        But, you do know the team began as the Boston Braves because they played in Braves Field in Boston. When, they moved to Fenway Park, the home of the Red Sox, the name was changed to the Redskins. But, Braves Field was named such because the team, the baseball team, had been named Braves due to the owner being part of Tammany Hall, where the symbol was a wooden Indian Chief. Aha, this is all based on political corruption as Tammany Hall was about as corrupt as they come.

        Now, tomorrow’s history lesson will be………………………… BTW, those baseball Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves and, now, the Atlanta Braves, a team which, also, uses The Tomahawk Hawk, borrowed from the Florida State Seminoles. Somehow, there is a bit of six degrees of separation.

  • micah stephenson

    I been saying the defensive collapse was becus of the lack of pass rush/sacks the second half. Hardly any sacks after the 9-0 start. Thats why Ford was drafted. Insurance for 50 and 91 and he will b a premier pass rusher in the future.

    • ladner morse

      Right on! I think Ford will be better than Von Miller in Denver. Then 2hen that happens what will the pundits have to say about this draft pick?!

      • berttheclock

        Prisco will remain steadfast and dead last.

  • micah stephenson

    I’m glad to see yall so high on the TEs. Fasano and Kelce better b awesome!!!

    • ladner morse

      I know micro-fracture surgery is a serious business for an athlete playing a contact sport. I’m really hoping Kelce can make it work out. Time is what his knee really needs to rebuild. He was a heck of a player in college and I’m still hoping he becomes a heck of a player for the Chiefs.

  • micah stephenson

    6’3, 235, runs a 4.3. Daaang! Start him! Lol. Shoot, I put him out there right now instead of Avery. Lol. Jus kid n but kinda for real. Lol