Jun 17, 2014; Kansas City, MO, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Aaron Murray (7) and linebacker Dee Ford (55) pose for photos after the Kansas City Chiefs minicamp at University of Kansas Hospital Training Complex. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

Kansas City Chiefs Minicamp: Day Two Recap


The Kansas City Chiefs completed day two of minicamp yesterday, and will have one more practice before taking the next several weeks off until training camp. Here’s a quick rundown of some of the notes reporters took while they watched practice.

FULTON IMPRESSING

The answer to who will start at right guard will probably not be answered until the end of August but it appears the two players in the lead for the job are Rishaw Johnson and rookie sixth round pick Zach Fulton. Adam Teicher:

Rookie Zach Fulton, a sixth-round draft pick from Tennessee, continued his bid for a starting spot at right guard. Fulton split the starter’s snaps with Rishaw Johnson. The Chiefs will get a better gauge on how advanced Fulton is at training camp, where they can wear full pads. But for now at least they are pleased with what they have seen from Fulton.

Kansas City may not have had a lot of picks in the draft, but they certainly seemed to be very efficient with them by selecting guys who can contribute early. It would be a great sign if Fulton can win the starting job.

INJURY REPORT

Here’s the injury situation heading into day three. I’d imagine the Chiefs are being super cautious with injuries in what is still a meaningless June practice.

VANCE WALKER

One of the more curious things during the voluntary practices was that Vance Walker was not taking snaps with the first team defense. This seems to be a thing that is changing.

AARON MURRAY AND TYLER BRAY

Make of these tweets what you will.  

Murray is a lock to make the roster, the question with him is more about what is his ceiling. In terms of Bray, if he can prove remotely promising then he needs to make the roster over Daniel even if Daniel is the more secure choice. Put it this way: If the Chiefs have to rely on their backup quarterback to win them multiple games then the Chiefs are screwed no matter if Daniel or Bray is on the field.

DE’ANTHONY THOMAS’ ROLE

It will interesting to see how Andy Reid integrates Thomas into the offense. We know he is going to see time all over the field, but finding a spot Thomas is comfortable and then easing him into the offense is probably the best way to handle the rookie speedster. It would appear right now that the running back position is where Thomas is most comfortable. From Terez A. Paylor:

Thomas still has plenty to learn, too, thanks to his absence, and running backs coach Eric Bieniemy — who has not been shy about coaching Thomas up on the field the last few days — is among the main coaches trying to catch him up to speed.

“I feel like he just makes us be disciplined and being in the right depth in our routes, getting the right foot work on our runs and stuff like that,” Thomas said. “That’s what’s going to make us great. Finishing forty yards down the field, finishing twenty yards down the field. You know, just working hard.”

Ultimately it doesn’t matter where Thomas lines up as much as getting favorable match-ups and exploiting them. It would seem every day Thomas has been at practice – the rookie minicamp and the two days of full minicamp – there’s been at least one mention of Thomas getting a favorable match-up and creating a big play. Thomas can lineup at fullback for all I care so long as the Chiefs can get more explosive plays on offense.

 

 

 

 

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    I thought he’d need some time to develop, and he may still, but the fact that he’s competing is a good sign.

  • unclejesse40

    Would there be any kind of trade market for Daniels based on how he played in the SD game?

    • berttheclock

      Consider what Atlanta just gave up for Yates. The Sparrows are short at LB, yet, they traded Dent to the Texans for a backup QB.

      • Blaize Richardson

        TJ Yates is 6’4 and has won a playoff game. It’s easy to see how teams would view his ceiling to be higher than that of Daniel’s.

        • berttheclock

          His ’13 salary was only $555,000 with minor bonuses.

          • Blaize Richardson

            that’s what I figured. It’s really easy to see how a team would be more interested in Yates at that price, than be interested in Daniel at his current salary.

    • mnelson52

      I think a lot of people underestimate Daniel. The QBs he’s played behind brag on his work. Last year, he took our 2nd and 3rd string players, and without the bad or missed calls, beat a playoff team with a playoff win in the Chargers. I hope they can find a way to keep all four QBs, then release Daniel the following year if Bray and Murray are developing well. According to what I been hearing, Bray is starting to improve a good bit. If something were to happen to Smith (God forbid) we would hope Daniel was still there.

      • mnelson52

        I’ll also add he did that in SD

  • berttheclock

    Interesting comments about Fulton, Murray and Thomas. It baffles me to read comments from fans which state Dorsey did not draft for the future. This draft reeks of the future, as well as the now. Consider the time Ford is spending with the first unit. An ankle injury is slowing Gaines, but, who out there really believes they will not see a great deal of Gaines this fall. Also, LDT will add much needed depth on the O-line. In addition with the return of the injured draft picks from last season, Dorsey has done a great amount of future and now building.

    If Dorsey can do well with just selecting six picks, imagine what he will be able to do with more in the future.

    • mnelson52

      We haven’t seen these six in action yet, but I feel the same as you about them. There were so many underclassmen in the draft this year, I believe next years class may be a little weak. I think Dorsey should have somewhere around 10 or 11 picks. That is enough picks that I feel he may make a trade up next year to get one of the top players in the draft. I know you can’t use your awarded picks for trade, but he has enough to use a couple of original picks or a future pick to end up with two first round picks. Or maybe get a second round pick for our second and original 3rd. We should still have a couple of 3rds left. I’m getting way ahead of myself, but I love the way Dorsey drafts quality players of value, that still meets our needs. I think next year we won’t have as many needs for starters, so he should draft someone to start training for DJ’s job. Duvernay-Tardif may take Allen’s job by seasons end. I am hoping though, the training that Allen and Stephenson got in the off season will help them to be better this year. I know just another year in the same system will help also. Sorry, again I was getting carried away and off subject.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    I don’t necessarily agree about Daniel. The Chiefs need to put the most talented and ready guy possible at the #2 spot. An Alex Smith injury shouldn’t be an instant-fail for the season. No one knows how the QB competitions will shake out, but this is again why I wasn’t a fan of the Murray pick. It looks like he’s going to cause the team to either shed a high-end backup or a solid developmental prospect at the position.

    • Ben Nielsen

      What has Daniel done to prove he’s a high-end backup?

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        Well, that may have been a bit of a stretch. But he’s been solid in every preseason appearances for two teams and has clearly impressed his coaches enough that he was expensive to steal off of the Saint’s pass-heavy roster. In his one start for the Chiefs, he played well enough to beat a playoff team. Unfortunately, the refs were also playing for that team.

        • Blaize Richardson

          Did I miss something, that everyone else saw? From what I remember of the preseason games last year, Chase Daniel wasn’t that impressive. In fact when it came to preseason, many fans felt that Bray clearly out played Chase and was deserving of the backup role, despite the disparity between the two in terms of contracts.

          I’m not saying Chase Daniel sucks, just that the QB situation isn’t written in stone right now by any means. The only true lock is Alex Smith, honestly.

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            Yeah, well, it’s usually not too difficult to look good in the 4th quarter of preseason against a bunch of UDFA’s who have never taken the field together. Either way, I honestly do hope that Murray plays lights out and makes it an easy decision to save money and jettison Daniel. The $3 million he is owed next year, coupled with the dividends from cutting Flowers, may be the difference in re-signing Houston and Smith. What I don’t like is the idea of potentially weakening the team at the most important position just because we used a draft pick on the guy.

          • Blaize Richardson

            That’s a fair point, but that point works both ways. Sure he was playing against UDFA’s and backups, but he was also playing with UDFA and backups. Bray showed a lot of promise last preseason and he has raw talent to spare. Daniel has showed the potential to fill in and be a backup in the past and he played decently against the Chargers last year, but when it came the point that you made about his preseason performance for this team, I’m sorry I just didn’t see it. I didn’t think he was very impressive last preseason at all. Granted he was playing with a new team and a new system, but still yet he didn’t look that great to me.

          • antony555

            If they have a thing against smaller players, should that not include the position of QB, after all he is no Drew Bree.
            Also if not for him bray could have gotten more rep’s with that cannon he has..

        • berttheclock

          Funny how the first pass of Daniels against the Bolts has been forgotten. Had the excellent LB of the Bolts held on to the gimme, he would have had a Pick 6 which would have placed the Chiefs in a huge hole. However, he muffed the INT and Daniels hit a long pass on the very next play. No, Daniels did NOT hit the field running, but, he did settle for a spell following that near miss.

          • Blaize Richardson

            Yeah, I remember that play and him underperforming in the preseason. He made up for it later in that game, like you said and he showed his worth to the team, but Chase Daniel is by no means irreplaceable or a lock for a roster spot.

        • T.Hagen

          I know I am replying late but you hit the head on the nail. Every sport you watch it seems like the ref’s side for the opposing team, clearly the last game the Chiefs and chargers played, the Chiefs got screwed. The Chiefs should have won. But oh well. . What could of, should of. Just like the ol lady is always right.

        • T.Hagen

          Most importantly, the refs are always right, just like the ol lady. Life is good until the ol lady sings.

        • T.Hagen

          Shh. Fighting with the ol lady now .

        • antony555

          Even if he impressed the coaches, why pay a backup so much money, if they wanted to pay someone why not pay Horton while he was still on the roster..

      • antony555

        What has he did since he left Missouri?

    • Reggie Flenory

      I totally agree fam i wasnt a fan of the murry pic either chase had a great preseason and a good final game against SDi think smith does a good job in protecting him self but your right if he goes down i feel good about chase as the back up murry and tyler not so much yet

      • mnelson52

        Chase has proved he can play at this level. The other two haven’t had a snap yet in a real game that counts.

        • antony555

          How against the Chargers, one game in his entire career, how is that proving anything.

      • antony555

        Hopefully Smith had a policy with Lloyd’s of London after getting rid of our starting left tackle, he is going to need it with the WR group we have. And I still don’t understand why they couldn’t work out a deal with DMC his contract or what he got was only 4 mil.
        The man didn’t want to go either and he developed into a very good slot receiver and special teams player, DMC will be missed also!