Floyd's Thoughts: Kansas City Chiefs Dee Ford, Brandon Flowers

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Jan 4, 2014; Newport Beach, CA, USA; Auburn Tigers cornerback Dee Ford (30) answers questions during Media Day at Newport Beach Marriott. Mandatory Credit: Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports

Jan 4, 2014; Newport Beach, CA, USA; Auburn Tigers cornerback Dee Ford (30) answers questions during Media Day at Newport Beach Marriott. Mandatory Credit: Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports

This week’s post is a special one, because for once I am actually in my childhood home writing. Every now and then it is good to get home, and even better for me because I am closer to the Promised Land: Arrowhead.

So for my post from Kansas, I decided to address a couple of stories that I read this week concerning my favorite topic, the Kansas City Chiefs.

The first story is about how the Kansas City Chiefs’ first draft pick in the 2014 draft has been compared to the late Derrick Thomas.

Now first off, just getting that comparison alone is a compliment due to the fact he was the best linebacker in Chiefs history. So is Dee Ford the next Derrick Johnson? Well it is really hard to tell since he has never played a snap. But if you have not seen it, here is the sports science piece that was put together by the folks at Sports Science.

I will admit when I saw that I was sincerely impressed. But just because he is fast does not turn him into DT just yet. Do I think, having seen that he could rise to that level? Yes, he has the skills necessary to be an immediate impact player for a defense that struggled in the long run due to injuries. Time will tell if he has the skills necessary to become one of the best. If you want to read the NFL.com article, here is the link.

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  • e_racer

    One, DT was a lot more successful in college. It is a huge jump to say Dee Ford is the next DT. I’ll wait to see how this turns out before jumping on that band wagon. Two, Flowers had a bad year last season. I read where quarterbacks averaged a 101 rating throwing his way. Maybe I got that wrong, but it did seem to me teams attacked him fairly successfully. There are things we just don’t know and never will know. Is Flowers healthy? He got knocked out of the last game he played. This much we know is true, Brandon Flowers has gotten a lot of mileage out on small stature, and less than ideal speed. He has tremendous anticipation, and gives it his all on every play. It is not hard to believe his better years are a thing of the past. The Chiefs simply could not afford him if it meant risking the opportunity to lock up Alex Smith, and Justin Houston. The Chiefs have a lot more hard choices next year. They had to do it, and I sort of expected it would happen.

    • Michael Shaw

      Also, Brandon was more of a Cover 2 corner, not as good at the man corner defense he was asked to play much of last year. It sucks he won’t be a Chief anymore, but I hope he does well wherever he goes……………so long as he doesn’t end up in SD, OAK or Donkeyland!!!!

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    DT was the 3rd best LB in KC history, behind Bobby Bell and Willie Lanier.

    • Deadmeat

      No disrespect. Who cares about that. Hope Ford is going to be the best. I personally don’t like living in the past. I want to see all records broken. If his peerr want to compare him, why should we knock him?

      • steve james

        To be a fan is to know the team history. You should care. In sports as in life where would we be without those who came before? The historic thing that is the Chiefs wasn’t built in a day.

    • Michael Shaw

      Merlin, no disrespect intended here, but I would have to disagree. I am a Bell and Lanier fan, but they didn’t have near the speed or athleticism that DT had. Had he not died as a result from injuries in his car accident, his stats would likely have been as high or maybe even higher than LT who was considered by many the best LB in NFL History.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I will grant you that Bell and Lanier never had the speed that DT had. I do think Bell was a better all around athlete. DT was declining fast, so I don’t think he had many good years left when he died. His whole game was built around speed and he was losing it. LT, Bell and Lanier share one trait that DT never had. They were all complete linebackers. DT was a sack artist, period. He was the best sack artist the Chiefs ever had and I loved watching him play. DT was basically a one trick pony and that’s why I place him behind more complete Hall of Fame players, Bell and Lanier.

  • Andy

    There is one thing for sure, Reid is trying to give Sutton the tools he wants. Is Sutton the guy? That is the question. And if he isn’t, will Reid do what is necessary? To put it nicely, Sutton didn’t seem to adjust well last year.

    • Deadmeat

      I thought he made adjustments. The players still got burned

      • Andy

        Before the bye week our D was sacking and giving up under 20 points a game. After the bye week, we couldn’t sack a bag of groceries and we gave up over 28 points a game. We gave up a 28 point lead in less than a half. The league figured us out, Sutton did not counter.

        • Deadmeat

          I’m no expert, but Lewis let Hilton run right by him. He was the safety net. How was it Suttons fault that Lewis kept getting out of position? I thought he had the right defense, but the players wasn’t executing. I honestly, lack the knowledge of defense, to know if I am right or wrong. Just my observation.

          • Andy

            I’m with you, I’m no football D expert, but I have coached team sports. If I had a weak player I would do something to make the other team go somewhere else, like shift or have an other player cheat a step or two.

  • tm1946

    Today, Ford played in Houstons spot as he missed the first mandatory practice. Getting more and more interesting even tho it was day one.

  • mnelson52

    If God was a Bronco fan, then why would he make clouds to block the sun.

    • Deadmeat

      To let them know, they suck. Seen the Super Bowl?

  • tmahawk

    I’m sorry but flowers showed me what I hait about the NFL now a days. He was cut because he wouldn’t take a pay cutt.
    If you want a championship it takes give a take on the way your payed. Heck Tom Brady took less money to try & get Welker signed. It didn’t work but Brady did it none the less.
    So as far as I’m concerned good riddance flowers.
    That being said Hali & Bowe needs to do the same for Smith & Houston.
    Its the way you build teams that you can contend with.
    Like I said before… Good riddance flowers!

    • Deadmeat

      How much of a pay cut would you take? I think cutting him was the right decision, by the way.

      • tmahawk

        Sounds like your more about the players & less about the team. That’s cool

        • Deadmeat

          That’s not true at all, I am just looking at both sides of the issue. The Chiefs organization is in this for one thing, MONEY. The NFL is driven by a bunch of filthy rich people, that want more MONEY. But yet you condemn the players for wanting to get paid. Just doesn’t make sense to me, sorry.

          • tmahawk

            You condemn yourself by your comment. You realize we need cap space for the following reason I’ve mentioned. Flowers was making more $ than DJ , Charles.
            & the Chiefs did for one thing cap space.

          • Deadmeat

            How so? Would you take a multimillion dollar pay cut to be team friendly? No you wouldn’t. Alex Smith and Justin Houston will not take pay cuts. But you condemn Flowers, that’s just ignorant.

          • tmahawk

            I said my piece. You only understand when you want to.

          • Deadmeat

            I see both sides, you see one. I now have said my piece.

          • ChiefTucson

            I agree.

    • Deadmeat

      I got to say more. Why is flowers the bad person here? New coach and new gm, all want him to play a position he doesn’t excel at. A position that devalues him. But yet we yell he is greedy, he isn’t a team player. He said nothing but nice things about the hunt family. I personally think this is best for the team and flowers. We should all be ashamed of passing judgement on him. Who honestly would have handled this with such class?

      • Michael Shaw

        Agreed. Not sure how you can blame Flowers for being released.

      • tmahawk

        We needed cap space. Plain & simple. If your a player on a team there is absolutely no way you should not know that. (Him hali & bowe all know this) . They are pulling the same thing revis & Ware pulled in yrs past. In other words they are listening more to their agent than doing simple math & understanding we need cap space. these players are out for themselves & could care less about the Future or the chiefs franchise.(Like said before its what I hait about the NFL).
        How are you going to win a Superbowl with players like this on your teams.
        Anyways I’ve said my peace & I’ve vented out everything I’ve been seeing from the flowers situation.& one more thing Good riddance Flowers.

    • ChiefTucson

      Flo earned his money and risked his health. He deserves to get paid and play until he’s done. Ridiculous statement.

  • Michael Shaw

    Good read Nick. I am thinking that Dee might be a good player, but as much as I like hearing the DT comparisons, I would have to say it is way too early to tell. He seems to have that drive and determination and his motor appears to be there as well. As for Flowers………………initially i was pissed and wondering what they were doing, and then I went into my memory, which sucks by the way, I do remember him having to be pulled up to cover the slot guys and Dunta or Cooper taking his spot on the outside and that frankly just isn’t what he is good at. Flowers was drafted by Pioli and Co. as a cover 2 corner. That is where his skills shine. I personally hope he does end up in Atlanta does well for them. He is a classy player and doesn’t deserve any of the hatred I have read in the last few days. ha ha sometimes we fans are so freaking brutal!

  • berttheclock

    Great to see Ford get needed reps with the first unit. Prescient draft choice by Dorsey. Leaves such as Prisco looking very foolish. But, I wonder which the great Chiefs nation would rather see? Manning being dropped on his keister by Ford or Lattimer in a Chiefs uniform scoring TDs? I really believe the edge goes to Manning being dropped for a sack again and again.