Dec 8, 2013; Landover, MD, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith (11) scrambles against the Washington Redskins during the second half at FedEx Field. The Chiefs won 45 - 10. Mandatory Credit: Brad Mills-USA TODAY Sports

Alex Smith Contract Extension: Only Pros


Now, I was originally going to title this the pros and cons of extending Alex Smith‘s contract. However, as I thought more about it, the cons are so small that they aren’t even worthy of making the title.

I am a huge Alex Smith supporter. My support of Alex stems from quite a few different things, but I think the most important aspect of it is that the last quarterback who I really enjoyed to watch and supported was Trent Green. Now, Trent wasn’t an elite quarterback, but he led the team and I could tell that people respected him. The last time that Trent Green played for the Chiefs was back in 2006. I was in 6th grade at the time, proud owner of a new Derrick Johnson jersey, a second year linebacker for us. In other words, it’s been a while since I’ve enjoyed a Chiefs quarterback.

Besides that, I feel that Alex is undervalued by a lot of people. I played quarterback in high school, and I wasn’t the best QB in our league by far, but my team did fairly well and won some games. Alex is in a similar situation. (Note: I’m not comparing myself to Alex Smith talent wise. Come on people, I’m young, but I’m not idiotic.) Alex has been a consistent winner during his time in the league, yet constantly gets overlooked because he isn’t one of the big name gunslinger quarterback who makes the big bucks. However, I think he is exactly what we need at the moment. Here are a few reasons why.

January 24, 2014; Kapolei, HI, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith (11) throws a pass during the 2014 Pro Bowl practice at Kapolei High School. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports

When you read this next sentence, please continue for at least a few more and give me a chance to explain myself: Alex Smith should get paid more than Tom Brady on a per year basis. Right now, Brady’s deal is a little less than 12 million per year, and I think Alex deserves more than that. Am I saying we should pay a ridiculously large sum? No, just that Alex deserves good money. If you look at the list of quarterback contracts, there is no good quarterback (besides Brady and those on rookie deals still) whose deal was less than 13 million a year. (Sam Bradford brings in 13 million a year). Do you really think Alex Smith isn’t as good/doesn’t deserve to make as much as Bradford? Going off of that, that’s the smaller end of the scale. You’ve seen those gargantuan quarterback contracts, and yet we could ink a quality quarterback for a fraction of that. 4 or 5 years for between 52 and 65 million would be nothing to land a winner, someone who has proven his worth in his short time here with the Chiefs.

Possibly the most overlooked part of Smith is his athleticism. Countless times last year, Alex was able to extend plays long enough to get a pass off, or create something with his legs. Also, he eclipsed Tyler Thigpen as the Chiefs’ single season rushing yardage record holder for quarterbacks, and was the second leading rusher on the team. The first time I truly appreciated his athleticism was the divisional round in 2012. On a designed run, Smith took a quarterback sweep nearly 30 yards to the house in a tightly contested game. While the blocking was excellent, some of the credit has to go to Smith. Besides that, while people question his lack of deep passes, it’s not because of a lack of arm strength, as proven in a playoff game I only vaguely remember. Alex consistently makes the throws he needs to make, and is quick enough to make things happen.

Dec 15, 2013; Oakland, CA, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith (11) reacts after the Chiefs rushed for a touchdown against the Oakland Raiders in the fourth quarter at O.co Coliseum. The Chiefs defeated the Raiders 56-31. Mandatory Credit: Cary Edmondson-USA TODAY Sports

At this point, it’s hard to argue that quarterback isn’t the most important position on the team. As Chiefs fans, you all should have noticed that, as the talent has been here for a few years now, and just wasn’t utilized very well until Reid and Dorsey took control (and brought along Alex). Alex provides leadership and consistency in the place we, along with every team in the NFL, need it most. Besides being in a natural leadership position by playing quarterback, Alex is generally well-respected by the team and has been praised by Andy Reid multiple times for his leadership. Derrick Johnson recently spoke with the media about the positive presence Alex has in the locker room.

Now, while the cons may not make the title, I feel as if I should mention them here. People consistently rag on Alex Smith for not throwing the deep ball. If you want to go over that debate, there are multiple comment sections of articles specifically about that. However, Alex proved he can throw the deep ball in the playoff game against Indy, he just chooses not too. While people hate the checkdowns, its hard to argue against results. Alex consistently led our offense, especially the second half of the season. Checkdowns or not, points are points.

People also have complained that the money he wants/contract number rumors are way to high. Instead of rehashing the same things, I recommend you scroll up to the section titled “Value” if you have qualms about the price.

Finally, the one argument that has some support is that Alex Smith isn’t the quarterback of the future. This is absolutely correct. He could very well be the quarterback of the next few years, but he isn’t our long-term guy. While this is true, my first thought is, who cares? If Aaron Rodgers wasn’t your “QB of the future” would you just up and not sign him? No. So why shouldn’t we lock up a guy who can win for us? And, while he wins us games in the present, our next quarterback can be prepared for taking over the reins, all while learning from an experienced veteran. Whether that quarterback is in-house or not remains to be seen, but our starting quarterback for the next few years is definitely in-house, and we need to lock him in while we can.

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  • Jim Wynne

    We have got to get this guy signed it’s a good feeling having a quarterback u can depend on

    • Josh Rose

      I think we should wait until halfway through the season to really think about signing him. See how Murray and Bray are coming along and go from there. Maybe save money for Houston and Hali

      • micah stephenson

        Good ideal!

  • Phillip Maxwell

    You hit the nail on the head when you said Alex can throw the deep ball he just doesn’t prefer to. The deep ball is overrated. There are times when scoring fast is a must but, for the most mart, clock eating drives are smart football. When Alex was in SF their defense was rated #1 in the league, it didn’t take long before Kap took over before that rating started land sliding.

    • area

      While I 100 % agree with clock eating drives, a qb’s deep ball ability is Paramount in being able to keep a defense honest. Without being able to keep the safety, or safeties, from crashing the box, an offense becomes more one-dimensional.

      • Andy

        It takes three to throw a deep ball, the OL, WR and QB. Out of those three, Smith is not the weak link.

    • trinity

      Arm strength is not his strength. He cannot do that consistently, and everyone knows that. Except this forum. And what do you mean he doesn’t “choose” to? He doesn’t “choose” to do much of anything, he’s not Peyton manning. He does what the game plan tells him to do, and that game plan caters to his strengths, and most importantly, his weaknesses.

      • area

        Alex Smith does not lack arm strength, there is plenty of tape to prove so. For those of us who actually choose to use subjective thought, and did some homework. Smith’s game is high percentile throws, I.e. Brady, Manning (pfm, not eli), Montana, Young- it’s called a west coast offense and it is designed to prosper on such high percentile throws. Brady, Manning, Montana, Young, amongst others have many more S.B. rings combined versus your gunslingers.. I’ll gladly take a cerebral qb over a hip shooter any day.

        • trinity

          The opinions in here are just baffling. You say there is plenty of evidence that he can sling it? Where in the world is this evidence?

          • area

            Bing Alex Smith to Donnie Avery, it’s a nice little clip of Smith firing a laser for 46 Yds in the air and hitting Avery in stride. Blown coverage created by w.c.o., advantage taken by Smith with a very NFL adequate arm. Oh the wonders of the world wide intereweb.

          • micah stephenson

            You do know that was the only td pass over 20 yards in the air all yr long? 1 long td pass all yr long!!!! Wow

          • area

            I’m easy to keep happy, I like defensive minded teams. The ‘greatest shows on turf’ still hurts my stomach.

          • Man

            You do know that KC ranked in the top 8 in DROPPING THE BALL?!

            Dropping the ball!!!! Wow

            Oh yeah, they ranked like 29th in pass protection too.

            pass protection!!! Wow

          • micah stephenson

            Mayby Ass11 should throw a more catchable ball. And it did not appear that if you gave Ass11 more time, he would b that much better. He is what he is.

          • trinity

            Lol the wonders of it indeed. Is that what you call evidence? A video of ONE of his throws? It means absolutely nothing, because it doesn’t take into account everything overall. Look, I could sit down and make a YouTube video that would make it seem like Peyton manning is the WORST quarterback to ever play. But when you add EVERYTHING, we all know he’s one of the greatest ever.

            On the flip side, I can create another video that would make Mark Sanchez look like the best to ever play the game. Lol and we all know that’s bullshit when you take in everything. So you can keep the fan videos because they don’t mean a damn thing.

          • area

            My goodness man. Post whatever you would like, green screen some Sanchez with S.F. #16 on, ignore all the facts presented to you. But do not hate man, life’s too short.

          • trinity

            There’s no hate involved at all. If you like him, fine. Just be honest with your assessment, and don’t make the guy out to be something he isn’t.

          • area

            I was completely honest with my statements, and assessment(s). I simply stated that that Smith is what AR wants for this offense at this time. That Smith has the tools to run a wco, and that I will never be in favor of a big arm,no brain qb. I realize this does not fit your model, I don’t care, it is what makes my opinion exactly that, MY opinion. You, nor anyone else can prescribe to me what MY honest opinion is or how I construe facts, or video. Especially when your best argument is nuh huh! Have a great day sir.

          • trinity

            If you think that’s my best argument, you must be new lol. Just say the word, and I’m more than happy to talk in depth about my opinion on Alex Smith in terms of both eye test and his stats both last year and career.

          • area

            I’ll probably regret this, I hate feeding the trolls, but… word.

          • trinity

            Ok. Alex Smith is going into his 10 year. For perspective, he came into the league the same year as Aaron Rogers. Only 1 year after rothliesberger, manning, and rivers.

            In these near 10 years, it took Alex Smith until last year to throw just 20 touchdowns. His previous high in a 16 game season was 18. In near 10 years, it took Alex Smith until last year to throw for just 220.9 yards per game. Before last season he had 5 seasons where he was below 200. Yes, for half of his career, this guy has failed to throw just 200 a game. In near 10 years, it took until last year for Alex Smith to throw for 3,313 yards. In these 10 years, he has only done that twice. Yes, twice. Last year Alex Smith only averaged 6.5 yards per attempt. In these near 10 years, he has only eclipsed the 6 mark twice.

            Now, this is the part where most chiefs fans point out that he only sucked to start his career because of all the different OCs. That’s not true. But for the sake of argument, lets entertain that notion. The “good” part of Alex Smith’s career starts when harbaugh got to san Francisco, on through last year. That’s what is debated here. Well, lets see what he did in these best years of his career shall we :)?

            In 2011 he only the 17 touchdowns and 196 yards per game. In 2012 he got injured after tossing only 13 touchdowns in 10 games. He was benched and traded. All culminating in last year where he had the “greatest year of his career”.

            Do you know what a game manager is? That is a quarterback who stays out of the way and lets other parts of the team win for him. They play it safe. They minimize mistakes. It’s their job to basically not fuck up, so other members of the team can get the job done. Caretakers, not playmakers. I just gave you the stats. They are very minimal as you can see with your own two eyes. And yet those team were still good :). That is because, as I said all along, Alex had little to do with anything. He has to be carried as opposed to leading, and you will never win because of him.

          • area

            my turn…sorry it took so long, new pc and my malware is fighting the block-ups.
            the last ten years are hogwash…here’s why:
            qb drafted in same year as Alex Smith:
            Aaron Rogers
            Campbell
            Charlie Frye
            Some Walter guy
            Greene
            Kyle Orton…boy, besides Rogers that is some tuff competition…next
            Let’s talk about teams from the 213 season that were ranked ahead of the Alex Smith in q.b. rating..spoiler..there were 13 of them.
            now..Alex Smith in K.C. ranked in at 14, only 8 or so q.b. actually played all of the games (save the weak 17 comment please). the remainder only played partial seasons, not 16. Manning, Rivers, Brees, Wilson, Romo, Big Ben, Kaep, played full seasons. unless I missed one or two that list is complete.
            Manning, Rivers, Brees, Kaep, Wilson will not be supplanted- the rest are easily replaced and improved upon by Smith becoming incumbent (Kaep is VERY debatable).
            Next topic: teams with new system and/or coordinator(s):
            Chiefs..duh. AR’s system is acknowledged as one of the most complex in the NFL.
            Eagles: not much to say here-these guys are awesome
            T.B.: simple system blown up to dumb proportions.
            Arizona: building a system the right way.
            the rest don’t count..
            Out of the new system interred teams, only the Eagles and Bears ranked ahead of K.C.
            Point here is that of all the new system qb’s..besides Foles-AS11 performed the best.
            allright…for the coup’ de’ taught (or however you spell that uprising saying):
            Teams with new QB’s in 2013:
            now, I know that some of these guys are rookies, journeymen, et cetera…but as much noise as you have been making, they are all better than AS11 right?
            Alex Smith: 89.1 percent accuracy
            Cleveland- Hoyer (4-12) 82.6 percent accuracy
            Buffalo- Manual (started 3 games) 58.8 percent accuracy
            Texans- Keenum and a pendulum -2-14, 78.2 percent accuracy
            Oakland-Pryor= 69.1 percent in 3 games
            Cardinals: Palmer 10-6 , not better than AS11 and the Chiefs
            T.B.: Glennon is a treasure, I would like him in K.C.
            Eagles: 10-6..Foles numbers are off the chart..I would pick him over Glennon by the way.
            Jets: Smith was a train wreck-fed to the wolves-the only qb he could beat out in the league is Sanchez.
            Chicago and Tennessee are ranked the same…qb carousel.
            2-14: the most important number- AR, JD, AS11 ushered in a new era in K.C. after a year of bags over the head, empty seats, flying banners calling for heads, and general melancholy…they have done well. Who would have come in and done better- save the b.s., think salary cap, and who was on the open market please.
            and remember- if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

          • trinity

            You know the beauty of career stats? They don’t lie :). You can justify it to the cows come home. You can say, oh he wasn’t as bad as others in his draft class. You can say, oh there were people in 2013 who played worse than him. But one thing you cannot deny is his stats.

            I just gave you clear, consise, proven FACTS on eexactly what this guy has produced in his career, and the FACTS show that he has produced barely anything. You can talk about 2013 all you want, but I just gave you statistical proof of mediocrity spanning damn near a decade. He hasn’t produced a damn thing in 10 years, and it’s right there in black and white. You say you don’t like stupidity. But rejecting truth that is right in front of your face is the definition of stupidity.

          • area

            The nfl is a what have you done for me lately crowd…forget 10 years ago…what you can do now is paramount. your inability to read past your prejudice has clouded any further debate. BTW..I gave YOU clear, concise facts on the 2013 season, and the equivalency of his draft class for the past ten years. I about cursed there, but you ain’t worth it Trinity.

          • trinity

            The only thing I have to say to that is, thank you for proving my point lmao! You’re right, the league is what have you done for me lately. Which is why I made a point to point out what you call “the best years of his career”, in the last three. I gave you clear, proven evidence of what he has produced. At his VERY BEST, that is all he managed to produce. At his VERY BEST, lately, as you call it, he has still produced next to nothing. That is embarrassing.

            So understand that, whether you are smart enough to grasp it or not, when you say that Alex has been so good the last few years, what you’re really saying is harbaugh is good. Frank gore is good. The san Francisco defense is good. Andy Reid is good. Jamaal Charles is good. Justin Houston is good. Tampa hali is good. And others. All those guys are good, and Alex Smith has rode them to victory while doing very little himself, AS
            HIS MINIMAL STATS FULLY INDICATE. period :).

          • area

            you sir, are a douche. prove your point? you have been upended 3 fold. your future posts will be disregarded as drivel…learn to read mofo.

          • trinity

            Hahahaha. So in other words, you have nothing to say in an attempt to dispute my points, so you will just hurl insults instead? Ok, gotcha :). Thanks for the laughs you provided me.

          • area

            AS11 played for the Chiefs last year, not harbaugh, Jc ran the rock, not gore. And yes, tamba, Houston are both good…have absolutely NOTHING to do with offense, but yep, they are good. fathom that asshat.

          • trinity

            If you could comprehend the argument, you would see that I was talking about the last 3 years. But I won’t try to embarrass you with insults. You’re embarrassing yourself enough already. And it’s really hilarious hahahahahahaha :)

          • area

            AS11 has only played for the Chiefs 1 year dumbass. Man, this is my last message to you ever… I am fully capable of comprehending your argument- it’s senseless.

          • trinity

            Oh my god. I said the last three years of his career, which includes san Francisco. Ugh lol, you are embarrassing yourself. You started off good, but then you lost the argument, so you started hurling lame insults. It’s funny lol. You are incapable of comprehending anything, and it’s making me feel kind of sorry for you. Still amused though lol.

          • Matt Youngberg

            Isn’t the goal in football is to win the game . And Alex Smith has the best winning percentage besides Peyton . If you really think Alex is bad. Then you don’t know football

          • trinity

            And if you think Alex Smith is better than average, then you are kidding yourself. And we don’t have to sit here and debate opinions. Scroll back up and read the stats I posted. In his entire career, that is what he has produced. In black and white, pure and total proven fact. He does a nice job, the last 3 years at least, of riding talented players and coaches to a lot of victories while not doing much himself. If that’s what you call good, then ok. The purpose of football is to win and win and win in the playoffs in order to get to the superbowl and win that. Good luck trying to do that with Alex Smith.

          • Suzi Conger

            You still, and always will, lack football rudiments IQ,,, in fact, your comments are ignorant :-) Happy trolling…. Period!!

          • trinity

            Suzi :). Actually, I have a question for you. Why exactly do you say my comments are ignorant? Please, tell me.

          • Stan

            Hey Jackass, Football is a TEAM game the last time I checked and not just a QB or Marino and Fouts would have won all kinds of SB’s.

          • Man

            How many Rings does Pay-Ton have in 16 years? Rodgers has 1. Brees has 1. Rivers has ZERO. Romo has ZERO. Stafford has ZERO. What about all the high profile QB’s that were supposed to be good and are now bagging broccoli at some GMO food outlet in nowhereville? The only football you and fical matter (micah) care about is FANTASY. Well, not everybody is dumb enough to give a flying f8)k about world of warcraft in helmets. It’s a FANTASY. So from the real life football peeps, Shove it up your a## you dumb feudal serf. We don’t care how low Alex’s stats were when he played 7 years in a row on the worst team in the NFL with the dead last ranked pass blockers in a new system every year and a front office full of people too busy sucking d9%k to care about the team. In the last 3 years he has won more games than EVERYBODY in the NFL except Pay-ton. Anybody that argues he wasn’t railroaded and is slowly trying to come back to life from it is clearly a retarded communist debt slave that needs to be shot in the face before it has a chance to breed.

          • trinity

            Word of advice. Less time on sports debate, more time getting mental help. Not a psychologist, a psychiatrist, because you’re going to need medicine for your condition.

            Oh, and about the debt strapped retard comment. As an Alex Smith fan, you would certainly be the authority on that kind of hopelessness. Hahahahahahaha.

          • micah stephenson

            Lol.

          • Stan

            IDIOT!!!!

          • Suzi Conger

            BRAVO, Man!!!!

          • trinity

            Lol you’re that upset? Maybe because you know I’m right.

          • Suzi Conger

            hahaha… you’re sadly funny! You don’t have a clue…. hehe ‘Bravo’ does not mean upset…tsk tsk Try to learn how to use the dictionary :-) Your comments are so lame, inane and fallacy-ridden, it is a waste of time to try to reason with blind Bash Alex Smith Kool-Aid drinkers such as yourself;; due to intoxication your vision is blurred and brain impaired… I like that, pretty cute :-) good-bye

          • trinity

            Really? Lol well reason with this suzi.

            Your chief argument is PFF. That’s what you always spout in here. PFF said this, PFF said that, PFF said Alex Smith is great at converting pressure into positive plays. The PFF is what you swear by, and we all know it, so there is ABSOLUTELY no backing out of that.
            :) so tell me, what do you think about the fact that PFF ranked Alex Smith 24th in their quarterback rankings for 2013? What do you have to say to the fact that after his best statistical season in terms of yards, touchdowns, and yards per game, PFF, THE SOURCE THAT YOU SWEAR BY, gave Alex a negative grade in passing, thus validating what I’ve said about him being average all along? What do you have to say to thd fact that the source that you swear by proved you wrong?

            And please, none of your desperate attempts at clever :). Answer the damn questions straight up.

          • Suzi Conger

            hey provide the PFF link for the QB rankings, thanx. And o yea, who is the most winning QB and second most winning QB since the commencement of ’11? Trivia question :-) (ps… just answer the easy question,,, no desperate attempts to be clever ;-) (PSS…. I see that Choke ck7 STILL hasn’t achieved the 13-3 win record that ASmith led in ’11,,,tsk tsk)

          • trinity

            As a PFF “expert”, shouldn’t you have already seen the list? Or maybe you don’t do as much research as you would have us think you do :). Lmao and of course because you have no answer to the fact I just stated, you desperately try to dredge up something about kaepernick. You have now gone from annoying to a complete joke suzi. Even though I’m laughing at you lol, I kind of feel sorry for you. The very thing that you use to try to “discredit” me, actually agrees with me lmao. You clearly don’t know shit even though you try to pretend as if you do, and you just proved that. Much to my amusement lmao. Anything you say from this point will be good for nothing but a laugh, because there is no way I can take you seriously now lol. Take care and have a good day.

          • trinity

            Come on, answer the PFF question :).

          • Stan

            You’re just a hater and don’t know shit about QB’s and football in general. You and micah just spill out BS. You have no clue how 9 different OC’ make not just to the QB but the whole offense. You damm jackass!!!

          • area

            and one last little caveat because I loathe stupid crap…Both Drew Brees and Kurt Warner were both wrote off as busts, and/or broken, before they won their S.B. rings.
            Carpe diem

          • matt

            Lets not be so crtical. Alex is a good quarteback. Time will tell if great with our system and Andy. Even Dilfer won a super bowl. I’d take that. Just win one in my life time. Offer the contract, cut later if it doesn’t work out.

          • jacati

            lol. You should take some of your own advice. Alex may not be the best thing since sliced bread but he sure as heck isn’t the leper of football you make him out to be either.

          • micah stephenson

            You didn’t see his stats for this yr??? He had like 3300 yards or something.

          • trinity

            Yeah I saw that! He really stuck it to all the doubters with those 23 touchdowns too. All those amazing little tosses to JC really showed us who’s boss. Lmao!

          • Man

            Did you see Manning get another ring this year? Me neither. He sure stuck it to all those believers like you and fecal matter (micah) with those 55 touchdowns though. All those screen passes…… ROFL!!!!!

          • Man

            Did you see how far Brees got in the playoffs this last year? He had like 5000 yards!

      • Phillip Maxwell

        I wished I had a dollar every time you mention Peyton Manning and the “big arm QBs” in these forums. Let me know when they form a line to play in KC

        • trinity

          Dude, who in the world said anything about free agents coming to KC. the only one who brings that up is you.

    • berttheclock

      Trent Baalke, recently, was asked why he didn’t try to move up in the draft to take a wide out with speed to offset his possession type receivers. He said one can stretch the field both horizontally as well as laterally.

      • micah stephenson

        You stretch them horizontally so that you can hit them vertically. Don’t see us hit n too many vertical routes.

    • micah stephenson

      What about when your down 14 and need to score fast? Lol. Is Ass11 your guy?

      • area

        No, JC is.

      • area

        But AS11 is the guy who will get JC there to do so.

      • Calchiefsfan

        If Smith remains on the same page with Bowe I can see that happening.

  • Bdiddy

    I think we tend to get caught up in the QBOTF debate. I am unsure as to why Alex can’t be our guy today and for as many tomorrow’s as he wants to play…assuming last years play wasn’t an anomaly this would be ideal. While the circumstances aren’t entirely congruent, I would point to Grbac/Gannon. We poked the pooch when we let go of him and we paid the price with Grbac while our hated rivals enjoyed a SB appearance and years of better QB play than we ever got with Grbac. Thank God Elvis has left the building! Don’t get me wrong, I am not making any comparisons…I am merely suggesting that Alex is a known quantity, and while some lurkers around these parts would say he’s garbage (you know who you are) most of us feel he’s an ascending player and his brains play bigger than his arm. He’s kind of the antithesis of a Favre and I for one am all for keeping that kind of talent on for as long as he wants to be here.

    Shudder! Could you imagine Alex ending up in Oakland? I would die!

    • micah stephenson

      Oak just drafted D.Carr who will b better than Ass11.

      • area

        Carr definitely has intangibles..just not sure of his mentor at this time.

        • micah stephenson

          Well they have Matt Schaub till Carr is ready.

          • area

            That’s the guy who makes me nervous for Carr’s future. Schaub was a dumpster fire last year.

      • Calchiefsfan

        There’s a better chance that Oakland ruins Carr instead of developing him. I’m trying to think of the last time Oakland drafted a QB and he turned out to be good.

        • micah stephenson

          Yea but the guy running oak came from denver. They signed Schuab, big Justin Tuck, Lamar Woodley, both the 49s cbs, wr Jacoby Jones, drafted Mack and Carr plus more good players. Oak got waaay better.

          • Calchiefsfan

            On paper they look a lot better but it is Oakland. Until they actually show it on the field I will continue to doubt. Kind of like AS11, he played fairly well last year but he’ll have to prove it with substantial improvement this year or I’ll be forced to join the Micah/Trinity club :)

      • Taz

        Yes, of course because he is not Alex.
        What a meathead IMO.
        Reminds me of closed minded people that think their opinion is always right and does not view any facts or factors since they know they R right and do not care to think about anything once they “knows” the facts. They stick their finger in the ears and go na-na-na.
        World is flat. :)

      • Taz

        Sure Carr is better than AS because he has proven it in the NFL.

        • micah stephenson

          I said will b, not is.

          • Taz

            And another lie so far. :)

          • Taz

            Might as well say any other like Brockie or JaMarcus Russell. Bet you loved him LOL

          • Taz

            Just saying you know shit but ride it out to death regardless….Most of us know better dumbass. We own it- LOL

  • meatcutter

    What player does a team get anymore that you plan on having for 10+ yrs, not many for sure. If you can get a steady, and I think A.S. could even be a top 10 QB for the next 4-5yrs, you get him signed. I just have not seen anything from A.S. that gives people the need to replace him. He was so hobbled in San Fran with Head coaches and OC’s changing so frequently, he never really had the opportunity I think to grow into himself. I think he is doing that before our eyes here in KC. I expect him to be even better this coming season , than last. Get him signed John and Andy.

  • CrispySBC

    IMO he’s a Top 5 QB … if he had WR’s who could catch the freaking football he’d of had a monster year last year. Pay the man and let’s develop our next QB to play in 4-5 yrs. No I take that back .. in the 5-7 yrs. Show Chase off, in the pre-season, and then trade him for draft picks while developing Bray and Murray. You can bet someone is going to be desperate for a QB, this year and it’s the 2nd year in AR’s system so we shouldn’t have to play AS as much in preseason. I really think R&D are some smart guys who have a plan and are going to stick it. That means getting good value for Chase and developing one of the best QB corps. in the NFL. IMO, AS is the key to building a dynasty in KC … man I love saying that!

    • trinity

      Did you really just say that he’s a top 5 quarterback? Do you actually believe that? Lol please. Explain to me how he is.

      • micah stephenson

        Not only did he say top 5, he said keep Alex till he is 37. Lol.

        • trinity

          Hahaha. If I was into drugs, I would want whatever drug he’s on. It’s clearly some powerful stuff.

          • micah stephenson

            Knaaa. You don’t want nothing that strong! Lol

          • trinity

            You may be right lol. Anyone who says that Alex is the key to building a dynasty has gone into another realm of highness that I don’t think anyone else is ready for

          • micah stephenson

            Lmao! Lol

          • Matt Youngberg

            You and Micah don’t know anything about football

          • trinity

            …..in the face of proven stats, that response is the best you’ve got? Lol take care and have a nice day Matthew.

    • micah stephenson

      Yawning, zzzzzzzzzz……….

      • John Walsh

        That seems to be your favorite reply when you can’t figure out how to reply, or when you’ve already said the same thing more than 10 times.

        • trinity

          Maybe he’s just speechless at the absurdity that came from that poster. Alex Smith a top 5 quarterback….you can build a dynasty with Alex Smith….hahahahahahaha! all I could do when I first read that was wonder if he was high, so I don’t blame Micah for being speechless.

        • micah stephenson

          Well when phrases like “top 5 qb” “show Chase off” “best qb stable” “Ass11 beginning of a dynasty” ect are being used, ima fall asleep listening to that.

    • berttheclock

      The OC of the Lions worked long and hard with Daniel in New Orleans. He could be an excellent back up for Stafford and be draft worthy.

  • mnelson52

    We need to sign him but I’m not sure for how many years. If KC can build a very strong O-line, he could play for a long time. If not, in his mid thirties, he may not still have the speed to escape and get 1st downs like he did last year. If the O-line is good though, he could still make all the throws from the pocket, plus still getting better at reading defenses every year.

  • trinity

    ….yeah, you lost me at the part where you said he should get paid more than brady. That is so laughable lol. Seriously. Stop it. Lol!

    • SlickGoldie

      Seriously…completely agree. That’s about where the article should have ended. I love how all the Chiefs’s “supporters” could even stomach that thought. What a joke.

      • trinity

        Lol it’s lala land on here when it comes to Alex Smith. It’s really funny, but they do go overboard with the nonsense sometimes.

        • SlickGoldie

          Damn do these dudes drink the Kool Aid. Apparently you cant be critical at all of a player on the team without being a “troll” or “hater”. That bert clown and John Walsh seem like the trolls to me.
          I write about the Chiefs on FootballNation.com if you’re interested in reading some unbiased commentary on our team hahaha

          • trinity

            Lol bert is especially abrasive. That other guy Area is a complete idiot, even worse than bert haha. It’s annoying but still funny :D. Yeah I will check you out! It’ll be nice to see an intelligent take on the team.

  • berttheclock

    I see the Trash Trolls have arrived. micah, who claims to be a Chiefs fan of sorts and the other a Niners fan who lives in New Orleans. Yeah, trinity, you really “care” about the Chiefs. That is akin to Bill O’Reilly really caring about the Democrats or Keith Olberman really caring about the Republicans.

  • micah stephenson

    Hey trinity, have you noticed when someone doesn’t like Cassel, Avery, Bowe, or anybody not named Ass11 its ok, but when you don’t like Ass11 your a troll? How is wanting our team to UPGRADE the most important position on the field being a troll? I would think that is being pretty smart. I wonder if all these “non trolls” notice that at the end of the yr, its usually the teams with the best qbs still left standing.

    • trinity

      Exactly. If you don’t agree in here, you’re a troll. It’s as if they don’t realize that they are the ones who are in the minority, not us. The majority know what Alex Smith is, they just reject that in this place. And you’re right, look at the final 4 last year. In the AFC you had two of the best to ever do it. In the NFC you had two young playmakers who have the potential to be great, and who are already more accomplished than Alex Smith. They don’t see it though lol.

    • John Walsh

      Wow, is there an impending marriage for you and trinity?

    • trinity

      Micah, I just heard this interesting tidbit on espn. Do you watch ESPN first take by any chance? The sports debate show? Well on today’s podcast, they are talking about Johnny manziel. Skip bayless just said that the chiefs were about to take him with the very next pick if the browns didn’t trade up and get him. What do you think about that??

      • micah stephenson

        Well I’m not to sure about his size, the defenses are gonna wanna kill him and it will prolly take a yr or two for him to learn his playbook and how to read nfl defenses.

        • trinity

          I’m not a fan of Johnny, but that shocked me. I had heard about the chiefs being interested before the draft, but I thought it was bogus/smokescreen. First take says he would have been a chief if Cleveland hadn’t slid in one spot before them though.

    • berttheclock

      No, micah, you are the ASS.

      • micah stephenson

        Ok Berttheclown!!!

  • SlickGoldie

    Dude u forget Alex smith blatantly overthrew a wide open receiver in the playoff game (which he managed to do at least once every game and leave points on the board).

    • trinity

      Good point.

    • John Walsh

      Blatantly overthrew a wide open receiver? Why don’t you qualify that a bit, Einstein? Which he managed to do at least once every game and leave points on the board? His statistics don’t indicated that in any way.

      • trinity

        His statistics don’t indicate a damn thing, because they are so minimal. Lol why do you guys try to act like this guy is perfect?

      • SlickGoldie

        Einstein? Ok John Walsh internet tough guy. I commented from my phone so I didn’t feel the need to put all the details in. But since you so kindly requested, in the start of the 4th quarter just as the Colts were in the midst of their comeback, Alex Smith missed a WIDE OPEN Cyrus Gray streaking down the sideline by a good 5 yds. Had he hit him, Gray would have walked into the endzone. In case you forgot, those points would have been very valuable in that game.
        Instead, why don’t you sit there, read his stat line for each game and convince yourself you know something about football. WATCH THE GAMES. Reid would take an early shot downfield every single game, and most of the time the receiver was open and Smith would overthrow them by a couple yards. Even an underthrow would have been better since the receivers typically had a few steps on the D. I can still see at least 5 instances in my head this season where he did that. Early in the year, it didn’t matter. But once the games were tight, they LEFT POINTS on the board by missing these opportunities. Smith has TERRIBLE deep ball accuracy which is why they didn’t take more shots downfield. WATCH A GAME and you will see it. But I suppose that’s a challenge for you as you bury your face in profootballfocus stat pages all day. Good enough?

        • trinity

          Brilliantly stated dude :). Excellent points.

        • Calchiefsfan

          Actually that is incorrect. If you’ll notice Grey slowed up just a bit and then speed up again which made all the difference. If Grey runs full speed the whole play then Smith hits him perfectly. That miss was on Grey. Also, there is no QB in the league that hits every open receiver every time in any game. Smith put up 44 points that game with a QB rating of almost 120, highest of any QB in the playoffs. You can’t put that loss on Smith, no way.

          • Suzi Conger

            well said and accurate…

          • SlickGoldie

            ACTUALLY, Calchiefsfan, it is not incorrect. Stop looking through your rose colored glasses and call it like it is. Smith, while playing probably his BEST game of the season, actually ended up with a lower QBR in the playoff loss to Indy than Chase Daniel did in his only start all season playing with all backups against a San Diego team vying for their playoff lives.
            You enjoy that “upside” while I will sit here in reality and hope KC upgrades at QB in the very near future before giving Alex elite QB money that he does not deserve. Smith is an excellent stop-gap…he’s not the guy to build around.
            And if it was ONLY 1 throw that Alex missed, I wouldn’t be harping on it. It was very indicative of his struggles all season long that most fans buried their heads in the sand about because they were winning. Sorry man but I’m looking for a QB that can help this team win playoff games in the long run.

          • trinity

            Exactly. That’s what I’m always saying. Alex is a nice guy to have under center until you find a real franchise quarterback.

        • micah stephenson

          Yea Gra y hesitated which through off the timing.

      • berttheclock

        So, how often did Gray work in practice with Alex? To hell with all of the anti Alex Smith trolls who apparently “Care” so much about the Chiefs. I notice your ilk only show up on any thread mentioning Alex Smith. To hell with any of your supposed points.

        • SlickGoldie

          Hahaha brilliant response! Enjoy hanging with Alex at the Memorial Day bbq! And thanks for your expertise on the practice reps they got. Clearly an NFL QB must work tirelessly in practice with every single player to even have a chance of hitting them with a pass when they are WIDE OPEN in a game.

          • Suzi Conger

            ” I slowed down in my route, it was not an over-throw” said by CGray The real question should be, why did AReid play a 3rd string rookie in a play when he had never practiced even 1 snap with the QB…. avery was out, which left 6/7 ‘receivers’ available; all of which had logged at least 1 TD (except AJJ) previously….poor coaching decision

          • SlickGoldie

            Nice effort Suzi. I suppose Gray should have said “I can’t believe Alex overthrew me like that, I was wide open.” Andy Reid played a 3rd string RB who is NOT a rookie because the 1st 2 were out. You would prefer they put AJ Jenkins in the backfield?

          • trinity

            So in other words, it’s all on everyone else and not Alex Smith?

        • jacati

          yep

    • preston riley

      it was more like a couple of steps. blatant infers that he intended the overthrow. gray was 3rd string back. If back slows down and looks back while QB expects him to keep going – the throw is not going to be on target. Just one of those things. It wasnt really either’s fault. just a product of of injuries piling up in a single game.

      • SlickGoldie

        Actually Preston, blatant does not “infer” anything, it means “obvious” in this instance. You are “inferring” that I meant he did it on purpose, which is “blatantly” incorrect. Whatever way you want to slice it, it was a bad miss and indicative of the other missed deep throws he had all year long.

    • Suzi Conger

      wrong slick…try to figure out your error

      • trinity

        Why don’t you entertain us by explaining the error Suzi?

  • GDL40

    just my humble opinion but …… There’s no way Alex should get paid more than Brady. I’ll make it clear that I don’t like Brady or the Patriots, hate them as much as Rivers and the Chargers. And although I believe Brady is a product of being placed in a good system with a great coach, he is a way better QB than Smith. Alex Smith is NOT a top 10 QB, he DID prove me wrong last year, thankfully, but that doesn’t mean he had a great year, compared to real top 10 QB’s, just that I didn’t expect much from him. Let’s be honest, the first half of the season, it was our D that won us the games, the second part of the season the Offense looked great, Alex looked good, our deffense sucked, and we played tougher teams. This season it will be a tough schedule throughout, which will really show what we have in Alex Smith. I hope he proves me wrong again, against tough opponents, for the sake of our Chiefs, but I really don’t think that will be the case, that’s why I believe Dorsey shouldn’t give him a huge multi-year deal just yet. oh yeah, and somebody mentioned A. Rodgers …. if there was any way to get him (even if he won’t be the qb of the future) then fck yeah we should, I would be ok with giving him top money, but not Smith because they are lightyears apart as far as talent…

  • Calchiefsfan

    I really get tired of these debates about Alex Smith being a good QB or not. Manning or Brady he’s not, as a matter of fact he’s not Brees, Rodgers or Luck but he is a good quarterback. His stats for the last 3 years bare that out. He easily passes the eye test and has on more than one occasion showed to be far more than the game manager label that has been put on him. The Saints playoff game when he was with the 49′s and last year’s Indy playoff game are just two examples. He seems to be especially good in the playoffs. He is definitely good enough to get the Chiefs to the Super Bowl and win it. Until someone better becomes available we need to sign him to an extension. We’ve all seen how hard it is to get a good QB. The Chiefs haven’t had one since Green in 2006 as Austin pointed out.

    By the way, nice article Austin, well done.

    • berttheclock

      What is really amazing is how quickly, the naysayers about the excellent QB Alex Smith, slither out from under their rocks when ever he is mentioned on a thread.

      • Calchiefsfan

        I’ll be honest, I really am expecting a good year from Smith this year. He had a 90.7 QB rating his first year with Harbaugh and jumped to a 104.1 his second year until he got the concussion. I am anticipating a similar jump with Reid and the Chiefs. As long as the O line can hold.

  • Hawthorne

    Even if Murray or Bray develops into a better starter than Smith, Smith could be traded for a high or multiple high round pics. We gave 2 seconds for him, he could easily maintain that value with solid play.

  • Rob Ross

    Some people on this page need to get a life. Alex is the best and only option that the Chiefs have. Ried and Dorsey gave two second round picks for him. He obviously played better than any reasonable human being could have hoped. I mean come on the Chiefs scored 30 pts per game for the last seven games. He plays better in that playoff loss than any other qb in the playoffs. He has shown to excell in the playoffs. What could all you absurd Alex Smith haters be expecting. I promise you Ried and Dorsey couldn’t be more pleased with how Smith has taken to this offense. Because I know that they don’t have unrealistic expectations like some if you out there. Your quarterback doesn’t have Joe Montana to win a super bowl. Lol

  • Andy

    I agree with you. Alex wasn’t responsible for giving up 40 sum points to Indy. It wasn’t Trent’s fault that Indy didn’t punt.
    About signing Smith. I believe it will be later rather than sooner. Why should we double his salary this year when we don’t have too. Also the waters are a little merky with up coming cap issues with flowers, hali, berry, and Bowe.

  • Andy

    I can’t believe the Smith hating every time he ifs the topic of the article. It takes three to throw a deep ball, the OL, WR and QB. Out of those three, Smith is not the weak link.

  • Taz

    Done with dipshits… That can think for themselves.