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Murray: The Only Chiefs Pick I Hate

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Let me say right now that I don’t hate QB Aaron Murray. I’m sure he’s a fine person and looks like he was a great signal-caller for Georgia. However, his selection in the 5th round this year was the first draft pick under the regime of GM John Dorsey that I disagree with.

The problem is that Murray was a luxury pick for a Draft in which the Chiefs needed to be thrifty.

After about the 3rd round, all quarterback selections fall into two categories — future backups, or lottery tickets. By far the cheapest way to get yourself a backup in this league is to draft one in the mid-rounds and, of course, everyone is hoping to find the next Tom Brady in the rough.

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But, the Chiefs don’t need a backup, and if they sincerely thought Murray was the next Tom Brady, they wouldn’t have waited to grab him with one of their last three picks.

The Chiefs already have a developmental QB with high upside in Tyler Bray, for whom they waged a competitive bidding-war to bring in as a UDFA last year.

At backup, the Chiefs currently have Chase Daniel, who has so far done everything asked of him. In his one game as starter, he finished 21/30 for 200 yards, a TD and a QBR rating of 82.9. In case you’re wondering, Alex Smith’s QBR for the season was 49.4. In fact, he didn’t even match Daniel’s rating in his franchise-best playoff performance. That game has been erased from my memory after hours of psychotherapy, but ESPN tells me finished with a QBR of 81.9.

Sure, Daniel is a bit on the expensive side, but the Chiefs invested in him because he’s a refined player, a great scheme fit and Smith has had injury issues in the past. As Reach pointed out in his breakdown of Murray (which I highly recommend), cutting Daniel would only save the Chiefs $1.4 million in cap space and leave the team with two unproven backups.

The one case you could make for Murray is that he fits HC Andy Reid’s scheme and the Chiefs may have been targeting him as a potential replacement for Smith. If that were truly the case and the Chiefs felt that he had the sort of talent to dislodge the guy they just traded two 2nd-round picks for, then they wouldn’t have risked him falling this deep in the draft. My guess is that he was simply the best player on their board at the time so they pulled the trigger for value.

Generally, I’m okay with pure value picks. But QB is not like a lot of positions where you can keep in a bunch of bodies there for special teams, situational fronts and depth. You can keep a maximum of four quarterbacks on your 53-man roster, and the only teams that do that are those without a clear starter that are expecting a QB carousel during the season.

There’s always the practice squad, but when you move a player to the practice squad, any other team in the league has the opportunity to offer them a roster spot and you will almost certainly lose them. This would definitely be the case if the Chiefs tried to “practice squad” any of these three backups.

It’s not like Murray is going to be covering kickoffs, so the only possibilities here are that he forces the team to cut one of its other backups — which it doesn’t need to do — or cut him, making him a wasted pick.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs let slip many prospects that could have instantly seen the field this season, guys like Wisconsin WR Jared Abbrederis, Wyoming WR Robert Herron, or my personal favorite Penn State G John Urschel. They would all be gone in the 20 picks that followed.

Don’t get me wrong. I hope that Murray is the first QB that the Chiefs succeed in drafting and developing in the past 40 years. As I wrote a few weeks ago, I wouldn’t have been against the Chiefs going with QB Teddy Bridgewater at #23. But, unless he truly is the jackpot lottery ticket, this pick was a waste in my opinion.

Tags: Aaron Murray Alex Smith Chase Daniel Tyler Bray

  • Keith Friesen

    He was the one guy I actually wanted KC to draft. It was great to get Bray last year as an UDFA but Murray definitely looks like he can be the QB of the future – like an Aaron Rodgers in GB. I wanted Murray over Teddy, Johnny or Blake.

    • redchiefs

      I agree, Murray has proven himself to be a winner in big games often and consistently at top level competition. I also agree that drafting him reminds me of how Green Bay drafted Aaron Rogers even though they had Brett Favre at QB. I consider it a great pick. He will certainly be given the chance to compete with Chase Daniels for the #2 spot.

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        Aaron Rodgers was drafted in the 1st round and was widely evaluated as a top 5 pick who surprisingly fell to GB in the 20′s. Now, if one of the top 3 quarterbacks (like Rodgers was that year) fell to us in the 5th round, I absolutely would be on board with the selection. But, that’s not the scenario.

        • redchiefs

          I still say he’ll give good competition to Daniels, which is what Dorsey is about, creating competition. Murray has won too many big games not to handily beat Tyler Bray and make a strong push for #2.

          • scomstock55

            I say Daniel is on the way out. I will be very surprised to see him on the 53 come August

        • Mayme Gomez

          You sound foolish. Murray is a first round QB. If he didn’t get injured last season he would of been talked about and coveted just like the rest. So hate to be Mr. Obvious, but only time will tell if he was a wasted pick. As for now his stats, film, and records contradict your (Opinion) which I might add is premature, but im sure thats not the first time you have had this problem. Stanzi had the stats and film too back him out of college. Wasted pick obviously. Can you blame them for trying….. no! As for Bray and Murray, they are two solid backups with alot of potential, and who better to teach them the ropes then Alex Smith! Alex Smith is as good as ANY qb in football. KC won’t let Smith go anywhere (unless injured) he will retire a KC CHIEF legend like Montana (Except hopefully with a ring to prove it). Chase Daniel is done in KC if the two prospects step up. Seems to be a trend going on in KC and thats acquiring winners for a good deal. Go KC! Ill look for your article after roster cuts:)

          • micah stephenson

            Retire yes. Legend no. Retire a chief, deep inhale, sigh, no comment.

          • Mayme Gomez

            The deep inhale, I assume is the crack your smoking. As for the sigh, Im sure realizing your stupidity can not be cured is quite depressing, but lucky for you there is this amazing thing called natural selection and I’m confident It will deal with you sooner then later.

          • micah stephenson

            Lol. Funny.

          • scomstock55

            man…get a life. dont call someone stupid because his opinion doesnt match yours

  • tm1946

    Hate might be a bit strong, Maybe just think there were better fits each time the Chiefs selected a draftee. If Murray makes it, cheap at any price. If not, it is not like the Chiefs ever found a decent QB in their drafting history, a little base but we are not talking virgins at picking quality QBs.

  • micah stephenson

    Of corse you hate the pick. Its a QB. Most our fans don’t believe in drafting or developing a qb. Any QB that might have a chance to b better than what we have is not welcome around here.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Like I said, I would have been totally cool with us choosing Bridgewater. But, if we’re not going to shoot for one of the top QB’s in the draft and wait for the 5th to do it, then we’re throwing picks at potential backups or a 1/100,000 chance at a franchise player.

      • Hawthorne

        You can’t find the diamonds in the rough if you don’t look. A QB who breaks records in the best conference in college while playing in a pro-style offense at least merits a look. Rounds 4-7 are where you pick boom or bust players, otherwise you waste roster spots on carrier backups who have no chance at developing into starters.

        • micah stephenson

          Hell yea. You can’t succeed if you don’t even try. As far as drafting a 1st rd qb, we will never know, cuss we will never try?

          • Hawthorne

            I think with our new regime it may happen eventually. Both Reid and Dorsey are willing to do it, if Murray turns into the starter I think he will, it may be a while though. Also becomes less likely now that we don’t suck cause all the round 1 picks at QB are usually gone by the 20s.

      • scomstock55

        NOT! He should have been drafted much earlier. We got great value with that pick.

    • PunjabiPete

      Ahhh… the Micah Stephenson QB forum response. It goes down just like a fine, fine dirty milk jug of Hurracane mixed with Night Train…

      I’m just giving you shit, Micah… it’s odd though, I would assume you would have been ecstatic at picking up a rookie QB to push Daniels and possibly Smith in the next couple of years… Where’s the love man?

      • micah stephenson

        I’m happy that they at least starting to try a lil bit. You got to crawl before you walk. Mayby they will slowly work they way on up to taking a chance on one of the top prospects one of these yrs. Could had Geno, then TBW, who will pass on next?

    • Jim Harper

      That is just a bald faced lie.

  • micah stephenson

    Ass11 QBR was 49.4! Dam! No wonder our offense sucks! Mayby going Defense in the draft was the right thing to do. Last yr when we depended on the d we were 9-0, we we tried to win with offense we were 2-5. We can win if Ass11 does not need to score more than 17 pts. When it becomes a shootout tho. We will lose.

    • berttheclock

      Up yours, micah, with your God Damned Ass11. With your homophobic rant of recently, and your hatred of our excellent QB, Alex Smith, why the hell do you even post here?

      • trinity

        The guy just wants a quarterback who is a playmaker who can get his team over the hump. What’s wrong with that?

        • CalifChiefsFan

          The fact that AS11 was a playmaker. Did get his team over the hump. And…. gets no appreciation or respect for the job done? You have a view. Mine is different. Again.

          • micah stephenson

            He did alright. But we can do better. You might be hypnotized into thinking this is as good as it is ever gone get. And it might b. But a kid can dream can’t he. Sometimes dreams come true.

        • micah stephenson

          Yea what’s wrong with that? Lol

        • Mayme Gomez

          Go back to sleep son, thinking is just not for you!

        • scomstock55

          whats wrong with that is that that isnt what we needed…we needed pass defense plain and simple…we didnt have a pass rush when our starters were out…and when we were down our best CB…TY hilton bent us over and did what ever he wanted DEFENSE was the problem with this team

      • micah stephenson

        Cus I feel like it and I can. I don’t remember any homo rant. I remember saying I’m tired of see n Sam gay ass kiss n boyfriend (yuck) on tv all day, but i wouldn’t call it a rant. A lot of people said they did over play it. And I don’t hate Ass11, I just want somebody better.

    • Mayme Gomez

      Idiot

    • Troy Utt

      I won’t even bother breaking down the “numbers” again Micah, as once more you have shown what little clue you have about NFL FOOTBALL!
      The D held it’s own early on against the weakest part of the schedule, & played lost the entire 2nd half including the play-offs!
      Alex Smith led an offense that did amazingly well considering they had a new coaching staff, many new players, new offensive scheme, no starting TE (for the bulk of the season), & a lack of a pass catching WR!
      Against the toughest part of the schedule Smith put up his best numbers…
      There is NO WAY I would have touched Bridgewater at #23 or w/any other pick for that matter! As well I agree w/ Clayton on Murray…I see him as a wasted pick. With needs at WR & depth at other positions we just didn’t have expendable picks to throw around, especiall.y when we have Bray who has out-played Daniel at this point.

      • micah stephenson

        You would never pick any qb at anytime ever so…….

        • Troy Utt

          That is simply an incorrect statement! I as most fans suggest we take one at a later time, as this was the year to draft depth!!!
          With the Chiefs stable being in good shape “now” just wasn’t that time.
          None of us our saying Bray is the saviour for the franchise, but w/ Bray being proficient in both the Pro-Style & WCO which are the systems Murray is comfortable. The decision comes down to what they stated Murray was not able to do as compared to the other QB’s on staff: Smith is our starter, so the battle is for #2 at that point they state Murray is not capable of winning a game with his legs, nor does he have a cannon for an arm… The very reasons / tools which make Bray the logical #2 based if nothing else than just what we saw last season.
          This is exactly what we have all been saying… eliminate our other possibilitkes before spending another pick on the QB position as in our current state it does nothing to make us better! Murray is viewed coming in as nothing more than a back-up in the NFL…
          On the other hand should we have used that pick on a WR, or other position of need, the Chiefs still have Bray under contract whose scouting report now reflects the maturity of a player in his 2nd yr, versed & understands the pro-style offense, & is able to move the chains with his legs. Not to mention Bray has a cannon on lock for a right arm, & was compared at the combine 2yr’s ago to “Farve” as a “gunslinger”…
          If the reports are accurate & I believe them to be after spending the better part of camp last season watching his progression, into the season where he IMO proved that without the big-dollar contract Chase Daniel would be the #3!
          We all want the same thing, but after 30yr’s of mediocrity it’s not going to happen over-night, that’s why making the most of each pick is so necessary. At the same it’s refreshing to actually have these options available to us at the QB position…
          ” Reid the QB whisper’er is just the man for the job!” LOL

    • scomstock55

      wow..I defended you against an earlier poster who called you some names…now Im rethinking that. Can you not conduct yourself as an adult…even here where no one knows who you really are? Our offense put up good points..tied for 6th in league at 26.9. Thats not too bad. We went defense because that is the part of the team that needs the most help. Didnt you watch the playoff game? Without JC we went off….come on man….we were 9-0 against teams without good QBs….2-5 against teams with a good QB.

      • scomstock55

        I will take a TD / INT ratio of 3:1 + any day and everyday…..all week long. Alex Smith is a good QB and will be even better this year.

  • chief4ever

    Thank You Dorsey/Reid……….before you, we always only wanted someone else’s second string backup with no plan for the future…I know you needed Smith to fill the gap….But, Glad you decided to get our own players to compete for starting QB of the future. Go Chiefs !

  • Roc

    I like the pick especially if andy can turn him into a decent qb then get a third rounder for him

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Actually, instead of writing a post about this, I probably should have just looked up what all the comments were saying about Tyler Bray last year this time of year and Ricky Stanzi before that. Then I would know that we have indeed drafted a champion … just like every other time.

    • berttheclock

      Mel Kiper said Stanzi was the steal of the draft.

      • micah stephenson

        Who? Who is Melon head Kiper. After that yr he swore Jimmy Clausen was gone b the best QB ever in the whole universe, I quit listening to him.

        • scomstock55

          The only talking head worth listening to these days seems to Mike Mayock. He keeps it real and was killing it on the selections.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Murray’s a MUCH better prospect. In fact, I can’t recall a better quarterback prospect the Chiefs have drafted.

    • Suzi Conger

      LOL, well said

  • redchiefs

    I don’t see how you can hate the pick. Tyler Bray is still a project and is no real competition to Chase Daniels yet. Daniels has competition now and Murray will keep him on his edge. Bray probably will be practice squad this year.

    • Blaize Richardson

      I don’t think Tyler Bray is eligible for our practice squad. I’m not even that sure he’d pass through waivers anyway.

      • micah stephenson

        Why? He ain’t did shit! I dont see what all yall see in bray. He is garbage.

        • Blaize Richardson

          He has a hell of an arm and played very well in the limited opportunities he got, which included a great performance in the preseason game he started in last season.

  • Blaize Richardson

    One thing to like about this pick, is Andy’s penchant for finding QB talent in drafts and his ability to develop them into capable starters. I fully trust Andy Reid when it comes to QBs.

    • trinity

      Yeah, but can he develop Murray enough to get them over the hump if he becomes the starter? When you look at Murray’s strength and weaknesses, he sounds frighteningly like alex smith. That is not good.

      • Calchiefsfan

        If he ends up being as good as Smith then we can trade him for 2 second round picks.

      • micah stephenson

        Amen sista! I like that they at least starting to try a lil bit, but don’t like his weaker arm and non mobility. He did throw for a gang of yards and tds tho, mayby we will get lucky and he is at least slighty better untill we can get somebody waaay better.

        • Troy Utt

          See Micah, This is part of why little to no one takes what you say, seriously! You talk out of both sides of your mouth… Had Murray come out last season there’s a good chance he would have been the Chiefs #1 draft pick. I would have been good with that at the time, prior to making some of the FA/ UDFA signing’s..
          Enter Alex Smith, Chase Daniel, Tyler Bray… Smith is the starter there is no disputing that Daniel IMO is headed out. This brings us to where you consistently …….
          Your exact words: “I don’t like his weaker arm and non mobility.”
          Similiar prognosis has been stated by many pundits & talking heads, not to mention by some of our best here on AA. The problem lies within the fact that the very reasons you dislike Murry just happen to be some of Bray’s strong points! Bray has a cannon for an arm, is not afraid to go down-field, throw into tight quarters, & is capable of breaking the run to move the chains! He has become a student of the game, leaving the maturity issues behind where they should be…
          Thru all of draft debate countless AA posters have argued with you about the #23 & why exactly KC would even entertain drafting a QB in the 1st rd (or any point) with all the needs the Chiefs had.
          Granted Murray amassed a ton of passing yards & TD’s during his tenure, then again he stayed full term & came out as a 5th yr SR.
          You’ll have to help me out here Micah KC has Alex Smith who is playing lights-out right now, with little to no help from anyone but JC! Daniel held on to the #2 spot due to his contract…
          Bray deserves at the very least a shot to prove he can run the ship!
          If he can… That would be huge for us…Not only would we then have a QBOTF, but also a back-up in tow… As back-up is all anyone see’s Murray being able to do now since he does not have the additional skills Bray seems to have???

  • Chris Tarrants

    Food for thought. Reid is known for being a QB whisperer, so if Murray and Bray play their tails off and both become good QBs then would you still hate this 5th round pick if we could have one of them become our QB OTF and trade the other for a first round pick to a QB needy team for a first round pick? If we could pick in the top 5 because another team sucked for once instead of picking there because we sucked them hell I am all in on whatever Dorsey and Reid have planned

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Last paragraph: “Don’t get me wrong. I hope that Murray is the first QB that the Chiefs succeed in drafting and developing in the past 40 years. As I wrote a few weeks ago, I wouldn’t have been against the Chiefs going with QB Teddy Bridgewater at #23. But, unless he truly is the jackpot lottery ticket, this pick was a waste in my opinion.”

      • micah stephenson

        A waste???? A 5th rd picks roll of dice anyway? Why not see if we can get lucky and roll a QB.

  • Calchiefsfan

    There is the third option of putting Murray on IR and let him study the playbook and sit in on meetings all year. He would still get the opportunity to play this preseason before being put on IR. Then, with another year of assessing Bray, Reid could make a much better decision about keeping Bray as a number 2 and cutting Daniels and his expensive contract.

    Murray has an awful lot of upside and is a perfect fit for Reid’s system. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Reid and Dorsey take a QB in the late rounds every draft. There is also the possibility that Reid can develop Bray and/or Murray into a trade for a mid round draft pick which would also be a win for the Chiefs.

    Remember a late round WR is no guarantee either. The Chiefs already have a bunch of those.

  • Norman Gunn

    When we had the first overall pick I had a lot of fun scouting quarterbacks. E.J Manuel and Aaron Murray were two of my favorite picks for first overall. The Chiefs obviously fell in love with Murray. I was under the impression that they were going to take him earlier but not many quarterbacks came off the board day two. I am not looking at Murray as a fifth round pick but a guy Chiefs had ranked as two of their top 2 QB (Manziel being 1#). Murray will battle for the 2nd spot. And when Smith eventually struggles with mediocrity Murray will be the guy who saves our offense.

    • Calchiefsfan

      I don’t know about Smith struggling with mediocrity but I agree with everything else you said Norm.

      • trinity

        The chiefs would be better off with a playmaker under center, not Alex Smith. They should have drafted a quarterback higher.

        • Calchiefsfan

          I don’t know, Smith sure looked like a playmaker in the playoff game against Indy.

          • trinity

            That loss was the best game of his career, definitely. But it was an aberration when you consider the previous almost 10 years. It would be cool to see an upgrade for the chiefs, and that starts with them being smart about Smith’s upcoming new deal. They can’t pay this guy a ton, and they can’t go long term.

          • CalifChiefsFan

            not an aberration for his last 3 years. Could go on about the history in SF, but won’t. You have a view. Differs from mine.

          • micah stephenson

            Looks can b decieving.

          • Deadmeat

            You should remember that

    • Suzi Conger

      fallacy, ‘smith eventually struggles with mediocrity’. :-) Not sure where that’s coming from? Is there a ‘pre-destiny’ that Andy should be aware of? Smith just keeps getting better; Andy says he’s going to get ASmith into the Hall of Fame, time will tell all; you could be correct whereas Andy is not.;

      • micah stephenson

        Not sure where that is comming from??????? Cmon suzi. Dont play dumb. You know what he is talking bout.

        • Suzi Conger

          sounds like you two are consulting the same ‘crystal ball’….you know, don’t play dumb?????????… the same crystal ball filled with ‘bash smith kool-aid’ :-)

      • Norman Gunn

        There’s a reason Reid drafted Murray

        • Mayme Gomez

          Yeah they are looking for a diamond in the rough. Isn’t that what u so badly crave? Don’t over analyze things. Drafting overlooked talent late is not a new concept.

    • Mayme Gomez

      Have you watched Alex Smith play? SF or in first season in KC? The guy is a work horse! All the hatred toward a guy who does nothing but perform in adversity season after season. Alex Smith represents Kc chiefs football, from greatness to struggle and the fight back to the top. If you keep your eyes open, you will see things better. You should work on that.

      • Norman Gunn

        I agree that Smith is a work horse. He is a great leader, and he plays his ass off during games. This past season was Smith’s best as a pro. Yet he still only passed for 3300 yards and 23 touchdowns. I want the future Drew Brees or Manning or Brady. Even as hard as Smith has played I haven’t seen a guy who could win us Super Bowls. He could prove me wrong this season, but there is a reason the Chiefs went Defense and also a QB in the draft.

        • Mayme Gomez

          Leaders and work horses are not mediocre. You contradict your statement. Which leads me to believe you are ignorant. Think before you type! Most of alex smiths stats (passing) came in the second half of the season double his numbers from the second half of the season and he is as good or better then any of your three idols (brees, manning, Brady). Then to refresh the first half of the season for you ( although I’m confident you did not watch a single game). Alex Smith and Jamal Charles carried a new offense on their back literally running wild and created enough offense to get past average (at best) teams. I’m confident alex smith is just human, but he sure seemed magical learning AND teaching a nfl offense in 9 games! None of your hero’s have ever done that. His first 9 games he did more rushing then passing, and that Norman is why you don’t understand his stats! (Cause u have to watch the games to understand) welcome to the nfl norm!

          • Norman Gunn

            Wow.. I applaud you… Fantastic reply. There’s so much passion behind your words I can’t help but assume you like Alex Smith way beyond a quarterback (He is a good looking guy). I don’t need to argue much but you can work your ass off, be a leader, and still be average. Trust me, just ask Tim Tebow. Smith might have put up numbers the last 7 games but we still went 2-5 in those last eight games. Even Matt Cassel had a hot year. I honestly like Smith, but the lack of throws down the field is going to be what prevents us from getting to super bowls.

        • micah stephenson

          Amen!

  • trinity

    I agree and disagree. Agree in the sense that Murray isn’t that impressive, but I disagree with the notion that they shouldn’t have drafted a quarterback. I think they should have drafted one HIGHER than Murray, so they can groom him to replace Alex Smith next season.

    • micah stephenson

      Me too. Teddy B wuda been nice.

      • Mayme Gomez

        Ignorant

      • David Fritch

        I like Teddy but I really think Murry has more upside.

    • scomstock55

      not impressive? What part of his play isnt impressive to you? Please, be specific

      • trinity

        When you consider all his strengths and weaknesses, he sounds just like Alex Smith the second. Serviceable, but far from impressive in my opinion.

  • Kevin Ritchhart

    One thing to remember is Murray was projected to be a to be one of the top qbs in draft had he came out his junior year. In my opinion his injury was a main reason he dropped so far his year. He is way better than the qbs that went before him

  • Stacy D. Smith

    You make a lot of solid points, but I think Murray’s different. Sans the injury, he’s drafted in one of the top two rounds.

    • Jim Harper

      Maybe he is or maybe not. The only thing we know for sure is that he was not drafted until the 5th. I think Nick’s point is why do you use a 5th round pick when you only have 6 picks total in this draft and you still have 2 positions of need that have not been addressed.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        1. They obviously weren’t positions of need for the front office.
        2. Murray must’ve been the best player on their board.

  • Suzi Conger

    Good points made. Good take imho..

  • Andy

    One point not covered is Reid’s success with grooming QB. If Reid likes him, that is no small issue.

  • sidibeke

    I don’t know that I agree with you, but you make a strong argument. I hope he’s a guy AR just has a feeling about. If he displaces Bray, or Daniel for that matter, so be it. I wouldn’t even be totally against sending him to the IR for a year, but the year’s lost reps would be a drag. It’s a tough spot to be in really, but compared to Cassel, Croyle and Palko of only a few seasons ago, it’s a problem I’ll take.

  • e_racer

    I am not an Aaron Murray fan, but even I think it was a good choice to use the 5th round pick on Aaron Murray. Frankly, I have questions about Chase Daniel. I think Aaron Murray may be similar to Daniel. I do not see him being a starter, but a guy who can squeeze out a nice living as a perennial back up. Bray has the better arm, but arm strength is overrated. Murray is a better prospect than McCarron, who was selected just one spot lower than Murray.

    You have to take chances, and finding a future QB is a risk worth taking. Of those players in the third tier, where you find a pick like Murray, Murray was the best and most pro ready player. He is tough, smart, and fairly accurate. Although Murray does not have ideal size, he has been a solid leader, and won several games with the team on his back.

    With the 163rd pick in the draft, picking a guy like Aaron Murray is sort of a no-brainer. You just do it.

  • Outback Chief

    I think that Murray has the upside of Matt Cassel so if you’re building depth at the QB position then it’ll work , I’m not sure how Tyler Bray is advancing so only the Chiefs know if this was a good pick or not. I do however agree with the picks of Herron,Urschel,Abbrederis and I’d also add EJ gaines in the mix anyone of these would have been solid picks

  • Dave

    And this blog post was a waste of effort. To criticize this pick is to not follow college football in the slightest. You think we wasted a fifth round pick??? Go ahead and list the stellar picks we have had the last ten years in the FIFTH round. Murray is ten times the QB that Bray is and five times that of Chase Daniel. Murray is another Drew Brees. If he didnt get an ACL he would have went in the top ten without any question at all. Gil Brandt and the entire crew at Sirius NFL (who btw are 20x the analysts that you see on TV mostly) think this was the biggest steal of the entire draft. Gil Brandt even had him in his top 100 players of the draft and we got him at 163. You bring up Bray and what did we waste getting him? Not a damn thing. The kid was UNDRAFTED. Christ how you or anyone else that is a Chiefs fan can criticize this AMAZING pick is beyond understanding.

  • Olivier

    Well, in the 5th you do believe to draft for upside value ; and even if I was hoping other things than a QB, hte more I know about the kid (I’m from France, so I can’t watch college football), the more I like him and feel he’s value. Less raw than Bray he gives flexibility as back-up for now or within one year, when Daniels cap digits would become a liability more than an asset. Daniels to me was pricey insurance in case last year Smith would falter in play, or would go down injured. And more than Brady, Reid may look for Montana ^^.
    I think the Kid has the wits and the smarts of starting QB, something that could not be told from the Qbs drafted before him – or so I understand -. That’s enough for me as I feel I don’t know if at that point any OL or WR would have more upside than him. I feel Reid and Dorsey would have pulled the trigger on him in the 4th, but they felt DAT would be off and that Murray would still be there in the 5th.
    I feel when you draft to build a roster, the “lesser” round are more vital than the 1st to 3rd, because those guys are gonna be your back-up, and if you can draft a back-up told thought before to be in contention to be hte first pick in the draft, that’s very good. And as Laddie posted earlier, teams are loaded more than enough, cuts may (and shold) bring another OL and WR talented at cheaper price.

  • preston riley

    I don’t watch much college football, but I’m going to guess that the HCs and GMs of all the teams that passed on Murray multiple times do watch. Maybe he’ll be good but this idea that since he broke SEC records and looked good there means he’ll be a great pro are all just speculation. He broke records because he was in the SEC longer than most other top college QBs who rarely even stay for Jr year.

    Wish the kid well. But there are generally reasons why people fall so far. and in sports today, an ACL injury is not enough to scare all 32 teams away through first 4 rounds of draft – unless it is much worse than most people think.

  • sidibeke

    Thinking on it, the point where I disagree is that KC couldn’t afford to take the BPA and had to fill a position of need. KC still needs to add depth, and yes, it lacks a legit #1 WR, but I do not think the situation is so dire that when a QB that would have gone in the 1st round last year had he declared falls to the 5th round, you jump on that. Even if it doesn’t pan out, that’s a risk you’ve got to take.

    • micah stephenson

      Part of the hate is, they don’t want a QB on the roster that could b better than Ass11.

  • Jon

    Where did you get Alex Smith’s QBR? His season rating was an 89.1. He has never in his career had a QBR that low for an entire season baring his rookie year.

    • scomstock55

      here is the link with the QBR

      http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

    • Suzi Conger

      nfl QBR does not take into account receiver catchable passes dropped….which sucks for Alex as our receivers were #1 -#4 in nfl for MOST catchable passes Dropped. For example, in both ponies’ games, PFF graded Alex (rightfully so) higher than pay-a-ton..

  • Hawthorne
    • micah stephenson

      I wonder if he is related to demarcus van dike the cb we just signed

  • Nick Shaffer

    Please give a link to where you found Alex Smiths QBR because no starting quarterback had a rating lower than 65.0!!!!

  • scomstock55

    who gives a rats ass about his QBR? you make a big deal of it…I bet you love you some Cam Newton or RGIII
    and their QBRs sucked too. Smith is a very good QB and as the season went on and the playbook opened more and more he showed it. If our defense hadnt fallen apart…especially the secondary, who knows how far we could have gone. Murray is a great value pick there. Dont be surprised when they say goodbye to your boy Daniel. Dont be such a homer. You are probably a MU fan….

  • micah stephenson

    Of corse you hate it. Before the injury he was a 1st rd pick. We got him in the 5th rd and you hate it. Brillant. Is part of the reason you hate the pick is cus Murry will b younger, better, and cheaper than Ass11? This prolly the best QB prospect we drafted in forever and you hate it. Wow! Yea that 5th rd FB, or 2nd string RG is waaay more important than a possible franchise QB.