Chiefs Dee Ford And Phillip Gaines: Satiation


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The NFL plays it’s own version of the Hunger Games on a yearly basis and the draft is nothing more than the selection process of who will “represent.” The only difference is the stakes are not “death” in the NFL but, the way some fans are responding to the choice of Dee Ford by the Chiefs, they might as well be.

As I’ve mentioned in many past posts, I’ve used Fanspeak’s mock draft generator so many times I can’t even count but I believe it’s in excess of 100 times. Yes, multiple times per day. That’s why they call this site… ArrowheadADDICTS. The point of pointing this out is that so many specifics became clear about this draft in the process and one of those specifics is, anyone drafting for the Chiefs would need to accomplish a set number of goals with the 6 picks they currently have.

The Goals? The Chiefs need to draft a player who can:

1. Put more pressure on the QB (front 7)

2. Cover opponents WRs better (DBs)

3. Run block and protect the QB better (OL)

4. Get open and catch the ball better (WR)

Now, it appears that Chiefs fans, and many media types alike, have been caught in the needs buzz kill cycle of WR-DB or DB-WR and the droning on and on about those two needs alone  has blinded many to what Chiefs GM John Dorsey has outlined from the beginning. He said, and I paraphrase, anytime we can get someone who can rush the passer, that is a top priority.

Dee FlexingConsequently, when Roger Goodell approached the podium on Friday evening and announced that the Chiefs would be selecting Dee Ford, it not only made perfect sense to me but, stated clearly what the Chiefs will be focusing on improving this coming season.

While watching Chiefs games during the 2013 season, how many times did you say to yourself, “We just can’t get to the quarterback” during the last half of the season? I know. A lot. Me tooooo.

It’s the chicken or the egg argument about which one comes first… does pressure make the coverage look tighter or does tighter coverage make the pressure look better?

Now that we know the Chiefs have chosen CB Phillip Gaines from Rice in round three, it’s obvious that the Chiefs aren’t waiting  for the proverbial answer to that question. So, they’re covering both sides of that equation: more pressure and more coverage.

So often our response to a move that the new regime has made is done without considering that the move is one within a whole matrix of moves. The deletion of Tyson Jackson (from the payroll and the field) and the addition of Vance Walker, plus addition of Ford to the rush package of Pro Bowlers Dontari Poe, Tamba Hali and Justin Houston creates a bevy of choices for defensive coordinator Bob Sutton to scheme with and forces an opposing QB to deal with an even greater number of problems.

Imagine all of them on the field together… Hali, Houston, Ford, Walker, Poe… and all of them capable of drawing a double team… and the QB never knowing who is going to drop in to coverage, or who is going to need that double-team, or come on a delay, or use a spin move to beat their man, or bull rush, or criss-cross with another D-lineman, or oops… all of a sudden it’s Eric Berry in your face.

I – CAN – NOT – WAIT… until the season starts to see how creative and destructive this defense can be to opposing backfields.

Plus, don’t you have to love a player who says, “I want to be a Chiefs forever?” That’s right, Dee Ford said that. And he meant it.  Plus, he seriously believes he’s the best pass rusher in this draft.

I don’t believe Dee Ford was drafted to replace Tamba Hali. Not yet anyway. He was drafted to make this front seven… a seven from hell. Heaven, if you’re a Chiefs fan. Don’t forget, linebackers Derrick Johnson and Joe Mays are both also quite capable of pressuring the QB, which makes the scheme choices even more tasty and plentiful.

When Justin Houston came out of college, facing the same SEC teams that Dee Ford faced, he had 38 tackles for loss (TFLs) and 20 sacks. Dee Ford had 27.5 TFLs and 20.5 sacks. Similar ballpark.

Dee PLaying Piano 2Some have criticized the Ford selection saying he’s too small. Ford goes 6-2 and weighed in at the combine at 252. Houston is 6-3 and 258 so… one inch and 6 pounds separates them. Ford ran a 4.52, 40 yard dash at the combine and a 4.53 on his pro day tying him with Jadeveon Clowney. Ford also had a standing broad jump of 10’4” all of which means — Dee Ford is explosive.

Dee Ford is explosive… and he has the confidence to say so.

When asked on Sirius radio if he was better than Jadeveon Clowney he said, “I’m better” then repeating himself, “I’m better.” However, Ford didn’t stop there. Profootballtalk reports that Ford said,

“People are just looking at the fact that he’s a physical specimen,” Ford said. “It really don’t matter. Honestly, if you watch film, you know, it’s kind of like, he plays like a blind dog in a meat market, basically.

I play with a lot of technique. I watch a lot of film. These are the things that make you a great player, and these are the things that I do, and it shows up, know what I’m saying?

“This is all my opinion, you know what I’m saying? And you can see these things. You can see these things on film. Go watch the film. You know, it’s a lot of intangibles that you need to have to be a great player. You can’t just look at the fact that he’s a physical specimen. I think the NFL should have learned by that by now.”

Dee Ford makes a good and accurate point if you can get past all of the hoopla burned in the competitive fire. Ford plays with technique. Rob Rang of CBS Sports says of Ford,

“His pro day show included a 35 1/2-inch vertical, 10-foot-4-inch broad jump, 29 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press and a 40-yard time of 4.53 seconds. There is something special here. Ford is a vocal and physical leader who could pay the most consistent, long-term dividends of any defensive end in this draft — yes, including Jadeveon Clowney. He would be a steal after the middle of the first round, assuming his back in OK.”

Now, you can be sure John Dorsey and Andy Reid wouldn’t take Ford if his back was a mess. I’ve heard others compare Ford’s maladies to last year’s TE draftee Travis Kelce. That’s hardly applicable here because although he was hurt once during his college career he healed from that and then Kelce was hurt after he came to the Chiefs.

The Chiefs didn’t draft Dee Ford for depth alone. The Chiefs have a plan and Ford will be in the weekly attack plans this year. You will see him early and you will see him often and you will like what you see.

Phillips INTPhillip Gaines 4.3, 40 yard dash speed may be what gets him time at Free Safety. In the press conference following the pick John Dorsey spoke of Gaines confidence, could be tried as punt returner but, that ideally he’d be used as a corner. When questioned about Gaines problem with marijuana he said Gaines had made a mistake when he was younger, he’s matured since then, played the past two years as a team captain and hat he’s ready to play now and step into game action as a rookie.  In any event, his six foot frame is the prototypical frame for a Dorsey defensive back and more importantly… the Chiefs just got better. Like Ford, you will see him early and often too.

And… you will be satiated. I know I am already.

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  • Josh Landers

    I agree completely. You know, almost every time I read one of your posts I think, “this guy gets it”. And then I see at the bottom that it’s you. I REALLY wanted to see moncrief in the 3rd, but, both of these picks make sense. I can’t wait to see the final product on tge field! GO CHIEFS!!!

    • 2dogs

      I’m in the Laddie fan club as well. Have to admit that when I first saw his name I thought who’s this pompous ass. He does get it and this is just another good article.

  • berttheclock

    With only six picks, the mantra of John Dorsey is similar to the USMC.

    Looking for a few good men.

    Well, he has two in the fold. Well done.

    • freshmeat62

      When the 1st rd trade was not made Thursday nite, that pretty much limited what Dorsey could do as far as trading around for the rest of the draft. How valuable those draft picks are just for strategy. Being short that 2nd rd’er, he couldn’t afford to give up any more. Glad to see him holding his water and not giving away any of next years picks.

      Next years draft should be interesting, what w/ the comps he should be getting. Even though the comps can’t be traded, they give Dorsey a lot more flexibility in moving his regular picks around. Next year, instead of SF and Cleve being the ones talked about, it’ll be the Chiefs wheeling and dealing..

      • berttheclock

        Very true.

      • micah stephenson

        Yea right.

    • Brian Dempsey

      I do know something about the USMC ( 4 years active ). But like you said, well done by Dorsey addressing a couple of needs on Defense.

  • freshmeat62

    The balls in Sutton’s court now. He should be elated w/ his new toys. Maybe part of the reason they drafted Ford was to cover themselves next year if Hali leaves, but for now they have 3 rush specialist. Even last year Hali would move up and down the line, looking for the soft spot, now they have 2 guys that can do that. I really like the possibilities.

    • berttheclock

      I still remember the words of Bill Cowher about LBs coming into the NFL needing 3 years to really learn how to play the position. This gives Sutton a head start on grooming him. Far better than Hali leaving and trying to find a new player. As you say, the beauty of this comes down to being able to be situational and creating the unexpected. Onward to Flattening Peyton.

      • Tony Parker

        Here, here!! Can’t wait to see egghead on his ass.

  • berttheclock

    Yeah, as Josh Landers wrote, I was, also, sitting there watching the TV saying “Moncrief, Moncrief”. But, once again, 45-44 kicked in.

    Hey, didn’t you have Gaines in one of your many mocks?

    • Rocky

      That’s exactly what I was saying when they were on the clock with the 87th pick and I was very disappointed to hear the announcement not being Moncrief, it took me like 3-4 hours to understand why they passed up a WR for a CB

      • David Gonzales

        I also wanted to pick up Donte Moncrief. Phillip Gaines is a great pick but we could’ve got Antone Exum in the 4th. Martavis Bryant or Antonio Richardson seem like they will both be available with the 124th pick. WR or LG/RG and this draft will be complete.

        • KCMikeG

          Bryant is the one I had been hoping for when I finally admitted to myself that Beckham wasn’t going to fall to #23. Bryant will be called a sleeper – I think he will have a break out rookie season, Stinking Haley stole him.

    • ladner morse

      I had both “Gaines in one of my mocks. E.J.and Phillip. I like both.

      • berttheclock

        OK, now, drive over to East Hampton Sandwich Co and load up for the rest of the day.

  • Brian Dempsey

    It’s quite understandable that the Chiefs went Defense with their first two picks given what happened in the 2nd half of the season and in the playoff game. They did the right thing & there is still some good WR prospects on the board, if they still want one.

    • freshmeat62

      I’m glad to see that they’re sticking to their BPA philosophy. I’m glad they’re not reaching for a WR just so they can shut up the critics who will complain that a WR wasn’t taken.

      Read a story this morning where Jerry Jones didn’t take Manziel even though he was at the top of their board. How is an entity suppose to succeed if the people running it won’t follow their own methodology or business model. Almost feel sorry for Cowboys fans – almost.

      • Brian Dempsey

        I think Jerry Jones screwed the pooch on that one. He should have taken Manziel. Romo is 34 and they are going to need a QB at some point. Romo isn’t taking the Cowboys anywhere.

        • ladner morse

          No. Actually, Jones got this one right. He just committed 50 Mil to his current QB Romo… and that was his mistake.

      • ladner morse

        I do feel sorry for Cowboy’s fans. Jones is exactly .500 since they won their last Super Bowl and it’s driving all the Cowboys fans crazy around me… as I am stuck in Dallas for the time being.

        “What’s crazier than a Cowboy’s fan?” “The Chiefs fan who has to listen to them.”

  • berttheclock

    Well worth the wait last night, but, there were a couple of cringes along the way. Seeing Lattimer go to the Broncos and Gabe Jackson to the Raiders did not set well, but………

    However, I was happy to see Romeo work his spell on the Texans’ GM and get two new defensive toys, Clowney and Nix, to mold. Romeo is at his best when he can just concentrate on defense.

    • Brian Dempsey

      Looking back at the Ford selection, it seems the Cardinals and Eagles both had interests in him and thought they could trade back and get him thinking the Chiefs would take Marqise Lee, but John Dorsey completely fooled them.

  • berttheclock

    There is a new Bleacher Reports thread up about the biggest steals from last night and they list Phillip Gaines as one of nine.

  • berttheclock

    I wonder if Dorsey will try to find his Randall Cobb by taking the five nine, but, extremely athletic Bruce Ellington out of South Carolina. Explosive first step. Has to cut out his free lancing on routes to be able to get in rhythm with Alex Smith. However, speaking of AS, Walter Football has the Chiefs taking Tom Savage, the Pittsburgh QB with the 4th round pick.

    • Brian Dempsey

      I hope they don’t draft a QB. It’s wasted pick at this juncture.

      • Danny W

        I agree. I hope they don’t. Who at this point is better than our current back ups. I wouldn’t have minded Carr, Bridgewater, or Garrapolo but they need to bypass the rest of the pack and focus on some line or something.

        • micah stephenson

          What about Murry?

        • KCMikeG

          Tajh Boyd was slated as a first round pick and would surpass Bray & Daniels in camp this fall. He would be a steal in the 4th-6th rounds.

    • ladner morse

      Don’t be surprised by a QB selection. Good call Bert.

      • berttheclock

        Do you see the possibility of taking David Fales in the sixth?

      • KCMikeG

        TAJH BOYD PLEASE!!!

    • micah stephenson

      I’d b cool with that. Would have grabed Bridgewater if it was me tho.

    • micah stephenson

      Knaaaaa. Its a few good qbs left. They wont draft one untill they are gone first.

  • Rocky

    Since they obviously believe AJ Jenkins is gonna break out this year and be really good I think they should go for O-line help in round 4 cause OT Antonio Richardson is still there and best of all David Yankey the Guard from Stanford is still there for the Chiefs to pick and they could really use a guy like David Yankey right now especially when both guys are most likely gonna be starters early on in this league.

    • berttheclock

      As for Yankey, when he is being compared favorably with Ben Grubbs of the Saints, not a bad comparison. Very effective run blocker.

      • Rocky

        That’s why I hope they get him because he could make an impact early on and just about start immediately at RG and honestly I’d trust David Yankey starting at RG a lot more than Rishaw Johnson

    • KCMikeG

      Excellent point! I have said numerous times that there is no wayAS11 would want AJJ & Williams unless he saw in them the ability to help him succeed here. It also makes no sense that R&D would bring in two WR’s AS11 had worked with before if they didn’t think they would make us better.

  • berttheclock

    One quick shout out to Scott Pioli – I will give you one of my only shout outs to you for not using the 2013 first round pick of the Chiefs for Gordon in the Supplemental Draft. Just look where the Chiefs would be without having Eric Fisher and expecting to see Gordon banned for a year.

  • Danny W

    Okay I haven’t been following as closely as I normally do but didn’t we lose a bunch of starters this year? Where is our supplemental draft picks? Did we get hosed or what?

    • freshmeat62

      next year

    • berttheclock

      They are assigned during the league meetings in March. So, they will awarded next March.

      • Danny W

        I see. Well I want them now!!!

  • Roger Mihalko

    I wanted defense…..they went defense and I am a happy camper:) but I fully expect them to go tackle/guard…..to date 18 o-line out of 100 picks have been made…..1/5 of the draft……teams are loading up o-line. I like yankey or either richardson……. drafting 24 in 4th doesnt help, but hope we get one to fall to us.

    • berttheclock

      I was amazed to see how high the OT from North Dakota State was taken. For a long time, mocks had him going in the 5th to sixth. He was listed in an article about the Ravens being very interested in small schools. But, their first three picks came from Alabama and two from Florida State.

  • Blaize Richardson

    Great article and spot on as well. QB’s have been put on notice. Be afraid…. BE VERY AFRAID.

  • Hawthorne

    I was hoping we would grab a WR in the 3rd, but since few other teams did, I’m warming up to the Gaines pick, though I think he will need to build strength before he will make a decent starter, if he can hang on to the ball to return punts he could be even better than DMC his 3 cone is sweet and his 4.34 is faster than DMC. Dee Ford was someone I had hoped the Chiefs would grab and can’t wait to see him play. Love his attitude and intelligence.

  • Tyler Alexander

    Good article. We should also keep in mind that a lot of receivers will be cut or on the trading block to make room for the rookies. A veteran may be ideal since they can play right away.

    • Randall Miller

      Tyler EXACTLY! And don’t you think Mr. Dorsey and Coach has some targets and will pounce on them once cuts begin in August!!

  • Hawthorne

    Hoping for Jared Abbrahowdoyouspellit or Jeff Janis in the 4th. Wouldn’t mind waiting one more round for that WR if we can grab L’Damian Washington in the 5th. Could still use Oline help, and if we could grab Kenny Ladler that would be great, not sure if we can do all that with our remaining picks, but if can’t UDFAs, veteran cuts, and trades should do the rest.

  • Tony Parker

    I am really warming up to the ford pick after the initial shell shock. After watching some film on him, he may very well be the best pass rushing olb in this draft. The Gaines pick is awesome as well. Dorsey is fixing this defence and I applaud him for it. Keep building that D. Grab a guard and a WR and job we’ll done. Would like to see them get abberderris.
    GO CHIEFS!!!!

    • ladner morse

      I’m not concerned about the absence of a WR in this Chiefs draft class. I believe a good one is still coming. Will explain in a post later this week.

      • Stan Colbert

        What a tease!
        Like this draft! Especially if one of the two 6 picks steps up if needed. Thomas is much better than DMC! The top 4 picks are athletic freaks, so is Tardif! The pucker factor in the AFC West just went up!

  • Randall Miller

    THANK YOU LADDIE!!!!! Finally someone in the media gets it! PREACH! I have tried to explain the same thing till I am blue in the face…. scary to think where the double team will come from, as Dee makes the secondary better via his pressure and Tamba loves the pick. So stoked with Gaines, he fixes or adds to our DBs with speed and attitude. LOVE IT! Nicely done Sir!

  • Canad-Ian

    Great piece, thanks for taking the time to write it. Excited for the season to start.

  • Canad-Ian

    Am I the only one watching NFL network watching the letters KC at the bottom of the screen move to the left little by little?

  • redchiefs

    Ford we absolutely need for the most obvious reason, Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers need someone in their face and knocking them on the ground. I believe Dorsey likes to create competition. Gaines is meant to create competition for Sean Smith AND Cooper. I know they’re taller, but Dorsey hit on the tangibles the outstanding CBs need. Speed, length, tracking deep ball, and passes defended that Gaines showed. Cooper and Smith were beat deep and Smith likes to block tackle, failing to wrap up WRs. Now it might be true that FS would be where they’re thinking, but Gaines is almost Dale Carter fast and his other tangibles will give him a chance to truly compete. Consider that the Chiefs are in sub packages so often that he’ll see a lot of playing time anyway.

  • Jim Wynne

    I’m all in. U know we scored points the last 6 or 7 games we just couldn’t stop anyone else from scoring these guys know what there doing get on board and ride along

    • ladner morse

      Subtract K. Lewis and D. Robinson and… then add Dee Ford, Phillip Gaines, Sanders Commings and Travis Kelce to the mix… and we’d have had a much better record in 2013… and the playoff game would have ended much differently too.

  • Jim Wynne

    CHIEFS RULE

  • Erik Hild

    Dee Ford could very well turn out to be a great player but it doesn’t excuse the front offices complete lack of attention to the WR position in FA and the draft. Having Donnie Avery as our #2 WR is disconcerting to say the least. I still think the chiefs did a decent job in this draft but we can’t rely on Jamaal Charles for 35% of our offense again, or else he is going to get hurt and his career could be cut short. GO CHIEFS!!!