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Drafting Ford Lets The Chiefs Keep Smith, Houston


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I’m not going to lie, when NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced that the Kansas City Chiefs had picked DE Dee Ford, I was befuddled.

Drafting best-player-available is one thing, but when you pick a guy in the first round who plays the position you are currently the strongest in the league at, you’re going to cause head-scratching.

But, the more I think about this pick, the more I like it.

We will all be pouring over this and the Chiefs’ other picks for the next several months, but I like it for two main reasons: 1.) It sets forth a clear financial plan for the Chiefs amid a cap crunch 2.) It helps to establish a solid team identity.

Chiefs GM John Dorsey has said multiple times that the Chiefs were targeting four specific players with the #23 pick and mentioned that those picks depended upon other factors in various “scenarios.” One could brush this off as purely evasive and vague answers, but I think he was being pretty honest there.

The fact is that the Chiefs are up against the cap and need to re-sign or replace two players that are arguably their two most important at the end of the year — OLB Justin Houston and QB Alex Smith. They don’t have the money to sign them both, and they can’t cut anyone without creating a glaring hole somewhere else.

Going into the 2015 season, the highest paid Chiefs will be, in descending order, WR Dwayne Bowe, OLB Tamba Hali, and CB Brandon Flowers. There were already rumors that the team might trade Flowers, who isn’t a great fit for the defense, and nearly every mock draft on the planet had them taking a wide receiver in the 1st.

I think those were two of the very real scenarios that Dorsey was considering here. If the corner the Chiefs wanted was going to be available, I believe they would have dealt Flowers for a mid-round pick, thus jettisoning his salary and replacing him in one fell swoop. Likewise, the Chiefs need receiver help one way or the other, but they’ll definitely need it if Bowe continues to fail to perform up to his massive salary and they decide to part ways with him because of it.

It’s also possible that the Chiefs were considering drafting either QB Blake Bortles or QB Johnny Manziel, thus eliminating the need to sign Smith to a large extension. But, both of those guys were off the board. (To me, the lengths that Dorsey went to avoid answering whether Manziel was on the Chiefs’ board or was among the four targeted players in his post-Draft press conference, indicate that there’s some smoke there. Cleveland traded up just in front of the Chiefs to take Manziel, so that possibility was off the table, no need to start a QB controversy now.)

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With all of these things falling they way they did, Dorsey was left with a final scenario that would create cap relief and strengthen the team — go OLB.

First, on a football level, Ford is going to be an instant contributor in a rotation with Hali and Houston, and will be good injury insurance for the two of them. Why use a 1st-round pick on injury insurance? Look at the defensive stats for the Chiefs late last season when Hali and Houston were both fighting injuries.

When they were both healthy, the Chiefs allowed just 12.2 points per game on average. After they both got hurt in the Week 11 San Diego game, the Chiefs allowed 30.3 points per game. With a defensive scheme that stubbornly sticks to man coverage on the back end, you have to be getting serious pass rush or you will be torn apart. Give the Chiefs consistent pass rush to the end of the season and the team would have picked up at least another couple wins — not to mention the game-that-shall-not-be-remembered.

On the financial level, drafting Ford paves the way for the Chiefs to deal with their tough 2015 decisions. In short, Smith and Houston are going to be signed with Tamba’s money. Although it wouldn’t make sense to cut him now, the Chiefs will save $9 million in cap space by saying goodbye to him after the 2014 season. With a bit more finagling, that could be the difference in keeping Smith and Houston in red.

Meanwhile, they will get Ford for the next four years for about $2.5 million per year on a rookie deal. If he is all he is cracked up to be, then he will be an able replacement or better than the aging Hali.

Beyond all of the financial and medium-term-thinking smarts, I like this move because it gives us a greater hint at what the Chiefs’ identity will be under this new regime. The Chiefs are always going to play aggressive defense. We may not have world-beaters in the defensive backfield, but we’re not going to give you time to test them. Rain or shine, we’re coming for you.

Me likey. What are your thoughts, Addicts?

Tags: Alex Smith Dee Ford Featured John Dorsey Justin Houston Popular Tamba Hali

  • GregAbdul

    Everybody in the world knows we need to replace Avery. Instead we drafted a guy who’s going to be a backup. If you are right and Tamba is on the way out, this guy is too small to be an effective replacement. His size numbers means he won’t dominate the way Tamba and Justin do. We could have gotten a big body WR, but we passed and got a tiny OLB instead. Champions build through the draft and the last really good draft the Chiefs had was done by Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards, which tells you this team has been heading in the wrong direction for a long time.

    • tm1946

      Better yet, Chiefs site, Dorsey is quoted as saying the Chiefs sufficient at WR with what they have, GM speak probably.
      Starting to believe we got rid of Pioli and hired Pioli 2.0, I wish I was joking.

      • Bdiddy

        When you play poker, do you tell everybody you have a full house? Better yet, do you believe the guy that does?

        My point is…you have to bear in mind that some things said for the fans’ benefit and some things are said to keep other camps guessing. If you believe that our dynamic (front office) duo would be happy remaining status quo regarding receivers, you are crazy.

        • sidibeke

          Or more to this point, do you tell everyone you have a pair of two’s?

          • KCMikeG

            Bowe better not play like a two this year or I’ll be done with him!

      • KCMikeG

        We didn’t have problems moving the ball in the air as the season progressed. Besides many seem to forget that WR is NOT the focus of Reid’s passing game. The TE & RB have almost always been the top receivers for him.

    • ladner morse

      Size? Ford is nearly the exact same size as Derrick Thomas. I seem to recall him doing okay.

      • Calchiefsfan

        Ford is a little bigger than Dwight Freeney I believe.

      • KCMikeG

        Just an 1″ and a handful of pounds less than Houston but even quicker off the ball. I look forward to a WR being taken in the 3rd or 4th round but IMO but if Bowe shows up and Hemingway and Jenkins are given a chance Avery/Dressler will round out the group just fine. We didn’t have problems moving the ball in the air as the season progressed. Besides many seem to forget that WR is NOT the focus of Reid’s passing game. The TE & RB have almost always been the top receivers for him.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Reducing Ford to a pure backup misunderstands the team’s intent. He’ll be rotational and play significant snaps barring injury. Our passrushers need someone to spell them. Having Ford will help them keep fresher legs throughout the season.

      He’s 1 inch shorter than Houston and about 6 pounds lighter. Find a pick of the kid with his shirt off and tell me you still think he’s too small. This kid’s rocked up.

      • sidibeke

        This is why I’d like to see someone behind Poe step up and get some snaps. Felt like DP ran out of steam toward the end of the year, playing what, like 95% of KC’s D snaps.

      • jacati

        you got that right

      • KCMikeG

        Sutton will have all three of them on the field much of the time. This makes us better NOW!

    • Josh Taylor

      Same size as Robert Mathis and Mathis had 19.5 sacks last season

      • KCMikeG

        Ford had 10.5 sacks in 11 games last year. We just got so much better.

    • Blaize Richardson

      Why does everyone act like our biggest weakness on our team is our number 2 reciever? Avery’s not nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Sure we could get better and he’s not a long term option at the position, but he’s not as bad as people make him out to be. He has plenty of speed and playmaking ability (he basically single handedly won us the Eagles game last year). We could certainly do worse at WR than Avery, if anything Avery is the best #2 WR we’ve had in years if you think about it (a sad thought I know).

      Plus we still have AJJ and he’s a guy with some untapped potential. It would’ve made no sense to draft a WR (lee) in the first round, when a guy who’s just about just as good can be had later in the draft. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t really see Lee as an upgrade over Avery, besides for the age factor. To me they’re pretty similar with the exception being Avery has actually proven himself to a degree in the NFL.

      • KCMikeG

        AS11 wanted AJJ & Williams here for a reason. If not because he thought they could help him win then why?

  • tm1946

    If I buy what you are saying (I do not), it is the first time I heard of using your first round pick to keep two other players, Sort of believe this kid would be available in 2nd round but we did not have a pick then.
    It is almost like everyone we wanted is gone so….. let’s take a big SWAG and retire for the nite. Not very knee jerk, if this is the plan, it stinks.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      They talked to him during the Combine but didn’t bring him in for a private workout in KC.

      • tm1946

        Dorsey is quoted that the team sat in with him during a 60 player session and “thought” this is a good kid. Guess that can be consided talking to him. – kcchiefs.com

        • NicholasAlanClayton

          Teams at the combine get to choose 60 players to interview for 15 minutes each. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was referring to.

  • Kcfan

    I’m sure you guys complained when Poe was drafted too bc it was another dlineman

    • berttheclock

      Actually, I was leading the DeCastro charge, but, for once, Romeo really knew what he was doing.

      • mnelson52

        I was DeCastro all the way. That just proves I would be a lousy GM..lol..On hind sight, they made the best selection with Poe. I won’t complain with any selection till iI see the team playing and developing. Hopefully I won’t complain then.

      • KCMikeG

        Me too Bert! I’m ashamed to admit I was one of the boo birds at the draft party when Poe was taken. Guess I’ll keep my day job.

    • Calchiefsfan

      I was complaining about Poe, that’s why I’m not knocking this pick. Give it a couple of years and then we can see how good this pick was or wasn’t. I’ll remain the optimist until then.

      • KCMikeG

        Won’t have to wait to see how good this pick is. Ford will make an impact on donkey boy, phyllis and the rookie from day one.

        • Calchiefsfan

          Wouldn’t that be sweet!

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    Dee Ford was my number one for a long time. He can bring the heat and get to the QB. We dont know what the plans are for Hali yet. He could be dealt or he could move inside on passing downs. Our #1 issue was pressuring the QB. Get off WR being number one. With Kelce and AJJ getting better we will be fine. We are going to see lots of 2 TE sets with a FB so WR is not a priority. If they can get Reese and Brown from Pitt St late or Street in 3rd???

  • freshmeat62

    I likey!

    First of all I was really bummed that NFL and Eisen kept going on and on about Manziel, and they said next to nothing about the Chiefs while they were on the clock. Great TV watching him talk on a phone in some dark back room. I even flipped to ESPN for a second, but they weren’t any better, and I don’t care for Kiper, and then there was Ray Lewis. Good grief!!!

    I said yesterday that I thought they would go WR or front 7, and I was hoping front 7. I was actually thinking Ealy instead of Ford, but if D&R like Ford better, OK w/ me. Marquise Lee was the most likely WR on the board at the time, and I’m not sold on him.

    Now, will D&R try to trade Hali or Flowers today for a 2nd or 3rd rd pick? They might try but w/ those salaries, I doubt they’ll find any takers.

    • Kcfan

      Really hoping flowers gets traded. He doesn’t fit and makes too much for a slot corner

      • ladner morse

        Copy that.

        • mnelson52

          I think they go WR next. If they do, what nickel could they get in lower rounds to out play Flowers? Just curious.

          • Calchiefsfan

            That’s why I think Flowers does not get traded. If Cooper develops on the outside and Flowers continues to improve at the nickel spot we could have a much better defensive backfield this year. I don’t think they will do anything with Flowers until next year. But of course I never thought they would draft Ford either.

          • KCMikeG

            I like how you think. Flowers missed all of camp with a new defensive system and a new position once Cooper was picked up plus he was never 100% healthy. He will be back this year and the talk of trade will fade away.

          • Roc

            You never know, remember Justin Houston was a third round pick and look at him now. This draft is filled with talent, I have faith we will have a solid draft even with only 5 more picks

    • berttheclock

      I thought Ray Lewis made excellent points during the “Johnny Manziel Show” at ESPN. I kept flipping back and forth between them and NFL Network, which had their own version of “Here’s Johnny”. Yes, I was surprised at first, but, it makes far more sense now. At the time, I knew such as Dennard, Verrett, and Jimmy Ward were still on board and I thought Dorsey would go defensive backfield. However, I still ponder the fact that Cleveland took both Brady Quinn and Brandon Weedon at 22 and they now have Johnny at 22.

      • mnelson52

        Yes, they should have traded with us just to get away from that bad luck 22. Lol

      • Calchiefsfan

        It seems like that number 22 pick is bad juju for Cleveland. I hope not for the Cleveland’s fans sake.

        • KCMikeG

          The Cleveland Curse Continues!

    • Calchiefsfan

      I remember when they went on and on about Jamarcus Russell and how he was going to lead the Raiders back to the promised land.
      I’d be surprised if they try and make any trades at this point. I think it will be next year when the salaries of Hali and Flowers are addressed. They have Hali’s replacement in place as long as Ford shows something on the field this year. Now they need to find Flower’s, if this is all about cap space. It’s going to be interesting to see how they use Flowers. He was starting to get the hang of the nickel back by the end of the year.

  • berttheclock

    One other point about his being a DE is the fact Tamba Hali was drafted by the Chiefs as a DE and played year as such. In Teicher’s thread this AM, he mentions Reid said Ford would be an understudy for Hali’s position, so, expect to see Sutton use Ford at DE playing in front of Hali

  • Bdiddy

    Strongest in the league?

    • ladner morse

      Name a better pair of edge rushers than Houston and Hali?

      • berttheclock

        Clowney and Watt?

        • ladner morse

          Of the “future”… we’ll see. Try naming pair that was playing in the NFL last year.

          • berttheclock

            Geez, Laddie, my Stumptown coffee has not kicked in. However, I have suggested at times moving Poe over in front of Houston for certain plays and really throwing some fear into the opposing OT. Who do ya stop situation.

          • unclejesse40

            that is why I wanted Hageman, but dang a 2nd round pick would be nice this year. Does anyone think Flowers could get us a 2nd round pick this year?

          • Calchiefsfan

            Nope

  • Kcfan

    I also like the comments on how ford is too small for olb. He is 1 inch shorter and 6 pounds lighter than Houston! Too small? Nope

  • berttheclock

    This is going to give Sutton more options. Yes, he will train him to move to OLB, but, he can spot play him at DE. Ford has been trained for one thing since he left HS and that is rush the QB. He is not going to be a run stopper. Even if he is only used in this QB rushing, he adds great depth to the front seven.

    • Kcfan

      Agreed. Not many college rushers have multiple moves like ford does

    • freshmeat62

      Should make for some interesting hybrid defenses.

  • berttheclock

    I must admit, there was a great deal of heavy blue smoke buildup in my bedroom the moment the Saints took the Brandin Cooks option away. For many moments, it was not fit place for women and children.

    • freshmeat62

      Personally I was glad to see him off the board when the Chiefs picked, as I thought they may take him, and I was hoping for defense. I still hoping for Landry, but it’s pretty iffy that he’ll still be there at 87.

      • berttheclock

        Yes, I do agree reluctantly. It took me some time to get away from what Cooks could bring to the offense and I call this move by Dorsey, the 45-44 move. When all is said and done, it was the defensive side which failed the Chiefs, not the offense.

        One thing about Romeo Crennel is how much he can influence GMs. He was the one who asked for Poe and I believe he swayed his new HC into going defense over offense with the Texans.

        • freshmeat62

          They kept talking last nite about how the players and coaches could probably make Clowney play hard every play. Specifically were Watt, the d-line coach who I don’t remember his name, and Crennel. As I remember Crennel was kind of a pussy cat when it came to discipline.

      • Kcfan

        I was glad manziel was gone for same reason. I think bray is going to get his shot after AS11

  • Kcfan

    Would love to see flowers traded to a cover 2 team for second plus something else thrown in. Then use the second on desir. Or what about flowers for Stevie Johnson?

    • berttheclock

      The biggest problem trying to move Flowers is his high salary. The Chiefs might be better off retaining him considering the fact he was playing his new position far better near the end of the season and he began the Colts game playing Hilton very well But, I do not see many teams wanting to take on his salary. What many fans don’t realize is how restructuring contracts just kicks the can further down the road. If you look at his salary, you will find he has a high base, but, also, a signing bonus of $2m and a restructuring bonus of $1M attached to his $5,250 M base. Few teams are going to want any part of that $8 M.

      • Kcfan

        I agree totally but he can fit better elsewhere. Just hoping something can get done

      • freshmeat62

        Unless Hali, Flowers, and Bowe do some major renegotiating next year, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them all gone. Hali’s getting a little long in the tooth, Bowe just isn’t worth it. Flowers is the only one that is worth anything close, but probably not w/ the Chiefs.

      • mnelson52

        Dallas paid 10mil. for a #2 corner in Carr. But then again that is Jerry.

    • redchiefs

      I hope this first pick is some incentive for Flowers and Hali to restructure their deals…..

  • unclejesse40

    I will start off by saying that when this pick came through last night I was really disappointed, I wanted Hageman but the top guys must not have. but that got me looking at the last 10 years of drafts for the Chiefs and the truth that I pulled out of that is if you can find guys that can play for you in any round of the draft its a win. I know thats an oversimplification of a much broader team building philosophy but if Ford comes in and learns the system and starts for Tamba after next year than this pick is a win. Plus you can’t judge a draft for 2-3 years after anyway. It really does suck that the Browns didn’t trade those picks with us because I wonder if Ford wouldnt have still been there in the 2nd round anyway. Plus I was more of a fan Lawrence OLB from Boise. But hey what the heck do I know anyway!

    • berttheclock

      Ray Farmer trained under both King Carl and Pioli. Now, where oh where did he learn all of that wheeling dealing? Yes, King Carl and Pioli did have trade downs, KC for Larry Johnson and Pioli for Baldwin, but, Farmer was a whirling dervish, last night. I read this morning that the Vikings were trying to move up to take Johnny Manziel, but, Farmer got there first. Funny thing is I believe the Vikings might end up being better off with Bridgewater.

      • unclejesse40

        Completely agree, I am a Bridgewater guy. Plus until proven otherwise Cleveland is a dumpster fire when it comes to QB’s. I know they have weapons around but I still wouldnt want to be a part of that organization if I had other options.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    I’ll admit that I wasn’t happy with the pick, but only because I felt like they reached to get him. He can flat play this game so it was never an issue of his ability. I just saw Ford as a late-R1/early-R2 pick. So he was taken maybe 7-10 spots higher than I thought he should’ve been. Now that I’ve had time to digest it, this makes a LOT of sense. He will contribute right away, but he’ll also be a starter at outside linebacker possibly as soon as the 2015 season. It’s also easier to stomach with Pryor, Clinton-Dix, Cooks, and Beckham all off of the board.

    • Calchiefsfan

      I would love to have a peek at Dorsey’s board.

  • berttheclock

    er, Mr Manning, may we introduce Mr Ford to you?

  • Jordan

    Was anybody else thinking we might get Clinton Dix fell all the way to the packers just two picks before us? Of course packers taking Dix was probably why eagles traded down they woulda picked him
    Had the packers taken someone else they might have stayed put

  • Stacy D. Smith

    I think we sometimes narrow the objective of the NFL Draft. I know I’m guilty of it. The draft isn’t just a quick fix. It’s also a tool for setting a team up long-term. Ford will be beneficial in both the present and the future.

    • berttheclock

      This is something that Breech and Prisco over at CBS fail to understand. Neither one of them have considered the long term aspects of this pick. That is why they gave the pick a C Minus. Loved Prisco’s, “But, but, but, they already have, blah, blah, blah”.

      • Calchiefsfan

        I really don’t put a lot of stock in the so called experts on all the networks. There are only a few I have respect for. I remember Bill Parcell’s opinion of them and it was basically that they were a bunch of no nothings. Which of course made his press interviews hilarious at times.

        • KCMikeG

          They don’t understand the team deep enough and regurgitate what they hear each other say. Nicholas is spot on! Plus look what our offense did as the year progressed and Reid opened up his playbook. Now think about what happened to our defense when our record setting sack pace went out of order exposing the DB’s. Ford is a relentless beast and will make us better day one.

  • berttheclock

    Did love the way Ray Lewis set the tone for the draft before the first pick by saying “Defense wins Championships”.

  • Brian Dempsey

    Think about this. Was Aldon Smith, who was drafted at #7 in 2011, a full-time starter his 1st season in NFL? No, he was used as a situational pass-rusher his first season, just like the Chiefs are going to do with Ford, and give him time to hone his all-around skills as a 3-4 OLB, same as the Niners did with Aldon Smith.

    • berttheclock

      When, Aldon Smith was taken, there were many comments at sfgate from fans asking, “Who, What, Why?” Of course, none of them today would admit to such postings.

  • freshmeat62

    Now that all of the 1st rd glitz and glamor is over, today and tomorrow are when the real GM’s show their stuff and build their teams.

    • Rocky

      Actually this is the first draft that I am paying attention to its entirety. There is great talent at every round including the seventh. Fun draft so far, and now…Day 2 and RBs!

  • berttheclock

    How could anyone not like a player who says “I play with a lot of technique. I watch a lot of film. These are the the things I do and it shows up”.

    Height weight? He is six two and weighs 240. He has tried to model himself after such as the six two 246 pound Robert Mathis, the six three and 250 Von Miller and the five eleven and 260 pound Elvis Dumervil.

    Mr Sutton must have a ton of grins this morning.

    • Calchiefsfan

      I tend to go with the often heard saying “it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog”. Those on this site that have watched him in his college career seem to think he is a great addition. That’s good enough for me for now.

    • mnelson52

      It wouldn’t bother me if they could find another good pass rusher so we can have three when Hali leaves. Seattle made a believer out of me. They were the only ones to figure out how to stop Manning. Actually, I think Sutton had it figured out, just didn’t have the right people to make it work.

      • KCMikeG

        This is the fix that will serve up crow for those calling for Sutton to be let go. Hard to hit a ball without a bat.

    • ChiefTucson

      Check the stat comparison to Vonn Miller. On that sports stats lab on ESPN Vonn Miller graded out at 92 something and Ford graded at 91.8. Ford’s burst off the line (snap) was .18 of a second. Ford is for real.

  • Tyler Alexander

    I saw Dee Ford as a possibility weeks ago and so did Ladner. I think as fans, we put to much stock in media created draft rankings. The last 10 picks of the draft didn’t go anything like the talking heads thought it would. Marcus Smith, Deonne Bucannon, Dominigue Easley and Jimmy Ward were all drafted after us and would also be considered reaches. I can see him being the best player available and prefer him to a body catching receiver like Lee or taking a flyer on a safety like Ward. Unless a guard or a safety is truly special, like Berry, I don’t like the idea of using first rounders on them.

  • Danny W

    It is what it is. There is no since in hating the world over it now. Might as well just wait and see if the kid can stay healthy. I know we need some safety guard and wide reciever help though for sure. I am pretty excited to see if they address these needs or go with positions they are wanting to pad.

    • mnelson52

      I think they plan to stay with Abdulla and Cummings at FS. Cummings is faster than every safety in the draft and was a center fielder. I don’t think they feel the need to use a draft pick there.

      • Danny W

        I guess we will see today. I think that’s a risky option at such a glaring need but what do I know?

  • freshmeat62

    Been listening to the radio, and the talking heads are mostly bellyaching about taking Hali’s replacement a year too early.

    I disagree. I think they fixed a huge need in creating a very good pass rush. And yes, they probably have Hali’s replacement in place now, that’s gravy. I think they have created the opportunity for Sutton to throw all kinds of hybrid defenses on the field. Let see Manning, Rivers, and Schaub deal w/ that.

    Trent Green was just interviewed, and basically said what I’ve been writing here.

  • Chris Tarrants

    Food for thought, everyone keeps talking about how Ford will replace Hali next season. How about this season? They can both play DE, and LB! Putting them all on the field at the same time gives us three pass rushing specialist coming full bore, and the human bulldozer Poe smashing the middle. Then throw in the new guy from Oakland and we have ourselves one hell of a front 7!

    • freshmeat62

      I agree 100%. This gives Sutton all kinds of options in being creative w/ defenses.

      A lot of people think they should have taken one of the CB’s that were still available at the time, but I think that w/ just the replacement of Lewis at FS, will make the secondary a lot better.

      • mnelson52

        And that replacement will be Cummings.

    • Calchiefsfan

      Hali played as a DE in college and the first couple of years as a Chief when Gunther was running the 4-3. When they switched to a 3-4 the question was would Hali be able to make the transition to OLB. I can see Hali next to Poe with Ford and Houston on the edge in their 2-3-6 formation. How many blockers are needed to stop that kind of pass rush? Answer: more than 6.

      • berttheclock

        Did you ever read the comment by Jared Allen after all of those changes, when, he said he thought the 3-4 fit Hali better then the old 4-3 with him at DE?

        • Calchiefsfan

          Looks like Allen was right and the media guys were wrong, what a surprise! Hali had 8 sacks his rookie year so I think he played both pretty well. Call me crazy but at this point I’m hoping to see Houston, Hali and Ford on the field at the same time in passing situations.

          • KCMikeG

            Hali is a liability in coverage too so having him as a down DE is better for our defense. Ford is quicker than Hali & Houston and will reek havoc on opposing QB’s.

  • berttheclock

    Those so-called pundits who say the Chiefs could have picked up a replacement for Hali next season miss the point made by Bill Cowher, who believed any rookie LB had about 3 years to learn how to play LB in the NFL. Cowher loved to groom LBs. This gives Sutton a year’s head start to groom Ford.

  • GregAbdul

    I am becoming an ex fan. I hear so much excuse making…”I was disappointed when they made the pick, then I thought about it…” RIGHT…they used a first round pick, in a year when they don’t have a second round pick, on a bench player. If Ford becomes an all pro, the most he will be doing is replacing the all pro that’s already in front of him. You draft bench players in round 4, not One. This was a dumb pick. We have holes to fill in the starting lineup and for me, I say “we” less everyday from now on. I get tired of white guys making dumb decisions and getting a pass on doing dumb things because they are white. Drafting a backup player with your number one pick is dumb and no matter how many dresses you put on that pig, it’s still a pig.

    • berttheclock

      To you it may appear to be a pig, but, for my views, that pig is pure Grade A quality. It takes time to groom a starting LB. Very few college DEs and LBs hit running in the NFL. Far too much to learn. I say this is a great move and you will find Ford is going to be far more than a “bench player”. BTW, Aaron Rodgers was a bench player for about 3 years and so was Joe Montana.

      • mnelson52

        Not only will he learn and give some needed rest, he can also rush the QB as a DE and have three pass rushers without having to use the blitz.

    • berttheclock

      Oh, so you want to see Mayhew or McKenzie make mistakes and not take the heat?

    • Calchiefsfan

      I’m sure we’ll be seeing a lot of Ford on the field this year as he learns his craft. Houston and Poe both took a year to develop. As a matter of fact most players coming into the NFL need at least a year to figure it out.

    • freshmeat62

      You’re right. You should probably find another team to root for.

      • GregAbdul

        I know you are saying so long to the rat who’s jumping, but don’t you get tired of Clark producing one mediocre team after another? The schedule will not be the dog it was last year. There’s no sneaking up on anybody at the start of this season. I listened to mr. Dorsey….”he can come in and give Tamba and Justin some plays off, so they are fresher at the end of the game….I have seen people draft for need and that usually does not turn out too well.” I got news for you, at some point, you MUST draft for need. Didn’t these same guys go out and give up two number twos for Alex Smith? QB was a hole and a need and they addressed it. Now Smith is doing way too much dinking and dunking the ball short and as I tried to stand by him, the excuse we all have made is that he does not have a top grade second option in the passing game. Okay….so Kelvin Benjamin was there and that was NOT a reach. He was taken five spots later. He was projected to go off in the first round and most of all, WE PASSED ON A PLAYER WHO COULD COME IN AND START FOR US RIGHT AWAY. I am getting a second NFL team that’s soon going to be my number one. I have seen Seattle and San Franscico out perform us in the draft for way too long. Carolina just grabbed the player we needed because for some strange reason we took an OLB when we have two right now going to the pro bowl. I am going to stop but you chief fans are the teams only hope. There are just too many dumb decisions going on in this organization and it smacks of them not wanting to win. I have been waiting since 1970 and it’s getting obvious these decisions are getting beyond accidental. You need a WR. One is there and instead you take an OLB to sit on the bench? That’s a grade D draft out of the gate!

        • berttheclock

          Kelvin Benjamin – Oh, you mean Jonathan Baldwin II?

          Do get back to us when you read how the “bench warmer” Ford has just sacked an opposing QB.

        • mnelson52

          If you want to change teams because of one pick, you were never a true fan. You just didn’t know who else to pull for. I can’t think of another team though that wants a part time fan.

        • KCMikeG

          Happy trails bandwagoner!

    • Bdiddy

      Firstly…I have NO idea what the color of anyone’s skin has anything to do with the decisions they make, or further, the accountability they may or may not have for making those decisions. Those comments have NO place here.
      Secondly, I would say that the parties making this choice have PLENTY to account for…but not to you, nor me. I doubt they are scouring these boards today with their fingers crossed in the glimmer of a hope that they haven’t hurt any of the fans’ feelings.
      Thirdly, if you think we didn’t need another pass rusher, you are way off base, and the “holes” you think you know something about in our lineup are probably just as skewed.
      If he can stay healthy, Dee Ford will be a beast.

      • GregAbdul

        I know..white people get tired of talking about race. I only bring it up here to say, this is a no brainer. It’s a dumb decision. If Ford is an all pro, that’s not progress, it’s standing still because Tamba is an all pro. A black guy in a high post could not be so dumb and get away with it. Show me you are not prejudiced and call this dumb number one pick what it is.

        • berttheclock

          A great pick is what I call it.

        • mnelson52

          Aah yes there’s the race card when your not happy, but I don’t think there is anything or anyone to blame. I give credit for a good decision on a good player. You can’t even fire a black guy for that…lol

  • redchiefs

    Wondering if there is even the remotest possibility for a 2nd round pick tonight? Trading a future compensatory next year and current player? hmm, John Dorsey keeps life interesting in the Kingdom doesn’t he?

    • berttheclock

      Compensatory picks can not be traded.

  • Kcfan

    I am so sick of people saying “oh no we have no weapons since dexter left!” He was mediocre at best. Anyone getting his reps can produce what he did on offense. His leaving will not affect the offense whatsoever. 50 catches for 500 yards that is not good. No explosion. No big plays. Yes we need a WR but it has nothing to do with mccluster leaving on an inflated contract

  • jesse

    I was actually hoping for Barr for the same reason they picked Ford but a) he was gone and b) I didn’t really think about Ford because he was mainly a d-end but I love the pick. The backup we have to hali and houston is Zombo. He’s not terrible but not a pass rusher. Ford can take time to adjust and come in on passing downs and with the 3 of them in sub packages plus Poe in the middle… watch out! Now we need receivers, probably a db though I like what Parker did last year and we have commings, we need oline depth and a backup to poe.

  • cyberry

    Apparently, the Chiefs requested #2 and #5 pick for Brandon Flowers with the Browns. They countered with #3 and #5. Dorsey said “No”.. the rumor is they are still discussing know.. Flower’s has a lot of dead money this year but next year it drops..so he could be released. If they do try to trade him next year, with Reid being a class guy I would bet Flowers would be involved and ok the team he is traded too.. He has earned that..

    Tamba turned 30 but is a work-out machine and Reid loves it. He is still playing at top level and he sets the example to younger players about what it takes to succeed in the NFL. He took Houston and Poe under his wing and they went to Pro-Bowls in their 2nd year. Houston admitted to be a little lazy at first because the game always came easy. He credits Tamba with inspiring and tutoring. I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually added some years to Tamba contract lowering his Cap hit so is much smaller then allowing him to retire a Chief. Having him the locker-room is major attribute..

    • cyberry

      It helps that his salary cut is basically so his best friend..”Houston” can get his much needed raise and stay in KC..

  • berttheclock

    Trent Baalke swooped very quickly to give a 4th round 2015 pick which could turn into a 3rd rounder to the Bills for Steve Johnson. He does not have home run speed, but, he deals fits to CBs. Of course, he was the cheap shot artist who injured Eric Berry.

  • Dan

    Now Draft AJ McCarron. Ford if a success puts pressure on Hali to take a cheaper contract if he wants to stay a Chief next year. Otherwise, he’s out. McCarron and Tyler Bray would be backing up Smith in 2014-2015 and a final determination could be made to keep or part ways. This also would cause Smith to consider his real worth to the Chiefs. Chase Daniels is out and I would expect to see Bray seeing the majority of the snaps in preseason (assuming they don’t go with a 3rd round QB selection like McCarron). Use remaining rounds to fill the gaps at Corner, WR, OL, S. Opens up great possibilities going into the 2015-2016 season with the cap space necessary to attack free agency. I’m not a fan of “building year” but the reality is we can play competitively with this set, and be setup for huge potential going into next year.

  • KCMikeG

    Brilliant & insightful. Thanks because as much as I liked Dee Ford before the draft I was also befuddled last night. But then again I felt the same about Poe and look how that has turned out.

  • michael mckee

    I think firing sutton would do more to fix the defense.inability to make adjustments you sugarcoat with”stubborn”.couldve unloaded flowers to move up and take manziel.dorsey fetched coffee for ted Thompson,he didn’t run the draft room.I’m not impressed with reid and dorseys drafting,last yrs draft class aside from knile gave us nothing.listening to espn slam our picks tonight echoed my sentiments and confirmed my beliefs to a degree.alex smith will not win us a superbowl,at least ONCE the chiefs could live a little and take a chance on a QB in the first rd.its only been what,32 yrs since we took a risk?I have lil to no faith in this “regime”.I’ll change my mind when some player THEY bring in win us some playoff games.I love alex smith,but hes extremely average and WON’T win us a superbowl.alex has the limitations of an avg qb,not a great one.5 yrs from now we will remember our gutless wonders running the draft room not making it happen like so many other teams always do…

  • michael mckee

    Lets hope the gimpy knee bad back 1st rd backup gives us more than manziel gives Cleveland…