May 8, 2014; New York, NY, USA; General view of Radio City Music Hall before the start of the 2014 NFL draft. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports

2014 NFL Draft Live Thread: Day Two (Rounds 2 and 3)


Yesterday brought us the Johnny Football drama and Dee Ford. What will today bring us?

The NFL Draft can be incredibly unpredictable and this draft has been no exception. The Chiefs come in with only one pick today – a late third rounder – but that does not mean they’ll only have the one selection today. Will they trade Brandon Flowers? Will they trade a 2015 pick to move into another day two pick this year? Will they trade down from their one selection in the third round to add more picks?

There’s a lot of NFL Draft left. Let’s see what day two brings us.

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Look for periodic updates to this thread including notable GIFs, screenshots, and doctored Johnny Football photos. We’ll start it out with this gem.

 

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  • Ben Nielsen

    Let’s get this party started. TRADE FOR JOHNNY MANZIEL!!!

    • berttheclock

      Otherwise known as Cleveland wastes another 22nd in the draft.

  • berttheclock

    “It’s a long way to eighty seven, it’s a long way I know, It’s a long way to eighty seven, to the sweetest pick I know”

    • Ben Nielsen

      Whatevs. We’re trading the farm for a second round pick. TRADE CHARLES FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK AND JOHNNY MANZIEL!!!!!

      • berttheclock

        OK, Ben, where has micah sequestered you? We still have time to put together a ransom. We are having a typical spring series of squalls, but, I could put out the lemonade stand.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    easy Ben, I just ate. lol

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    some news about Gordon

    • Ben Nielsen

      TRADE DWAYNE BOWE FOR JOHNNY MANZIEL!!! (This joke will never get old.)

  • Ben Nielsen

    Texans get that franchise guard.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Nice selection

      • Ben Nielsen

        Until you remember Ryan Fitzpatrick is their quarterback.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Nothing like commercials after two picks. :/

  • Ben Nielsen

    Bitonio at 35 overall? Seems… high.

    • Peter C

      You obviously don’t understand the stupidity of the Browns.

      • Ben Nielsen

        This is true.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Oakland is getting better this weekend. I don’t like it.

    • mnelson52

      Going to be a tough division

      • Peter C

        That’s why we need a pick in the 2nd round.

      • Ben Nielsen

        Indeed.

    • Larry Devore

      but it’s oakland, they’ll manage to screw the pooch every year.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    LOL NFLN just showed the Falcons war room and Pioli was nowhere to be seen

    • mnelson52

      As it should be

    • Ben Nielsen

      Looking for candy wrappers.

      • mnelson52

        Priorities

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I just talked to Demitroff. He said Pioli asked to sit at the big boys table, but he was told ‘not now, it’s a process’

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      “But, but … you hired me to be on your scouting team and have a voice …”

      “That’s the problem with expectations. It’s about having the right six guys at the big boys table.”

  • Ben Nielsen

    The Blackmon/Lee combination should be interesting if they can stay on the field.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Blackmon who?

    • BWrangler

      He’s on his way out of the NFL. He’s a worthless turd.

  • Todd

    Congratulations on Dee Ford. I wanted him for the Eagles SO BAD!!!

    • Ben Nielsen

      Apparently you folks were very close to getting him, too.

      • Todd

        Yeah, I guess they thought he would be available at 26? Ford crept up the draft board but most thought he would be a second rounder or late first. I think he will do well.

        • Ben Nielsen

          We certainly hope so!

  • Todd

    Great GIF by the way. Love Ford chasing down Johnny “football” Manziel. A vision of things to come I hope. Manziel being run down that is.

    • BWrangler

      I’m cool with Ford chasing QBs back about 20 yards, no matter what their name is.

      • Todd

        As an Eagles fan and editor for Inside the Iggles, I am jealous. I wanted the Eagles to get him! Dangit!

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        But it’s better if their name is Derek Carr.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Wow trades coming fast and furious today

    • Ben Nielsen

      Trying to get the few remaining pass rushers in the draft. Not a lot of them.

    • Peter C

      Wish we could get one.

      • Ben Nielsen

        I’d rather add more picks on day three to be honest. KC needs depth badly.

        • Larry Devore

          they need secondary help badly. Secondary got exposed by the Colts in the playoffs.

  • mnelson52

    Isn’t Kony Ealy still on the board?

    • Ben Nielsen

      Yup.

  • Patrick Allen

    Not thrilled the Faiders got Carr.

    • Ben Nielsen

      Me neither.

    • mnelson52

      They are becoming relevant again quickly

      • Patrick Allen

        Don’t know that I’d call them relevant just yet. But I like the pick for them.

    • BWrangler

      I sure miss Al Davis making the picks.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    According to Jordan Matthews, god wanted him in Philly. god must really hate Matthews

    • Ben Nielsen

      Wish Deity wanted him in Kansas City.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Giants trying to accumulate all of the offensive linemen?

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      they need lots of help there

      • Ben Nielsen

        Think they’ve acquired five offensive linemen this offseason.

  • mnelson52

    Good pick for steelers

    • Ben Nielsen

      Indeed. Another guy mocked to the Chiefs in the first round at one point or another.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Putting on coffee… this is going to be a long night.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      I should do the same thing. But it’s 3:30 a.m. here now and I still have beer to finish first.

      • Ben Nielsen

        Coffee is for closers anyway.

  • mnelson52

    Sure is a bad year to have only 6 picks

  • Lyle Graversen

    Evening all, lots of WR still on the board!

    • Ben Nielsen

      You are WAY too positive. #0and16

      • Lyle Graversen

        Sorry, Paul Richardson is gone, NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

        We’re doomed.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Over under on when the Chiefs actually pick? I’m saying 2 hours from right now.

    • Ben Nielsen

      June 3rd

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    It’s nice to see these hall of famers at the podium, but I got sick of the 45-second announcements after about 5 of them.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Latimer to Denver is no fun.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    The FCC will not allow me to repeat my verbal reaction in a forum where American citizens will see them.

  • Lyle Graversen

    My top ten prospects I’d love to see fall to KC in the 3rd (no particular order):

    Gabe Jackson – G
    Billy Turner – G
    Dakota Dozier – G
    Donte Moncrief – WR
    Bruce Ellington – WR
    Jared Abbrederis – WR
    Martavis Bryant – WR
    Robert Herron – WR
    Terrence Brooks – S
    Antone Exum – CB/S

    • Montez K.

      Robert Herron is my sleeper….Steve Smith 2

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I would love Keith McGill if he is still available. I was AFK for awhile

    • Lyle Graversen

      I think McGill would be a good player, I just think they can roll with Flowers, Smith, Cooper, Owens, and Parker. I would MUCH rather have a safety.

  • Montez K.

    Cody Latimer to the Chiefs has me in full on CB mode……Pierre Desir or Keith McGill. Please Lord

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      True, the last thing Denver needs is another good WR prospect.

  • Dave

    Well Denver has pretty much made sure we won’t come within 20 points of them in any given game. Their team has gotten tremendously better while ours has gotten progressively worse. Not saying I don’t love the Dee pick but what we have managed to do this off season compared to Denver is laughable.

    • Lyle Graversen

      You could be right, but we’ve seen “dream teams” fall flat before. You never know how things will shake out on the field.

      • Dave

        The comparison to the eagles is a joke. The eagles did not have Peyton Manning. Denver was already stacked enough to go to the super bowl the year prior. Outside of Peyton going down to injury there is no chance they aren’t drastically improved.

        • Lyle Graversen

          Meh, Ware and Talib are injury prone and past their prime. I wouldn’t be surprised if last year was the best we’ll see from Peyton and he starts to come back to earth a little. Yes, they are the clear favorite in the AFC, but I’m not crowning anyone before the games start.

          • Dave

            Emmanuel Sanders, Cody Latimer, Von Miller, Aquib Talib, Demarcus Ware, Bradley Roby. TJ Ward all added. Have Von Miller back for entire season. Have great Left Tackler back Clady back for entire season. They lost Eric Decker and DRC but if you look at the additions above they replaced both rather easily. I am not crowning anyone but I am not being a homer either.

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            Ware is shot. Let’s see what Talib does when he is not playing for his next contract. Peyton is a year older and that arm is not getting stronger.

          • micah stephenson

            Looks like your in denial

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      They also lost Decker and DRC

      • Dave

        Decker just got replaced. Don’t forget they also got Sanders. Peyton can score with much less talent than the two I just mentioned.

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          Do you think Seattle exposed how to best attack Peyton?

          • Dave

            Do you think anyone has the defense that Seattle does? I am not saying that Denver is going to beat Seattle or San Francisco. What I am saying is we will get demolished because we have managed to become no more competitive.

          • micah stephenson

            Do you think Seattle can do it twice or are the Broncos likely to score 30?

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            As long as the refs allow the DB’s to mug receivers, Denver is going to have a tough time

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            I think our DB’s are up to that challenge if they’re allowed.

      • micah stephenson

        They also get back Von Miller and LT R.Clady

        • Dave

          Yep yep

  • Ben Nielsen

    Good for Ealy. He should fit in there at Carolina well. Not sure he wouldn’t have fit in KC.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Lee and Robinson a nice 1-2 punch for the Jags and their new QB.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Very true. They need so much though. Nice draft for them so far.

    • Ben Nielsen

      And Blackmon.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Who?

        • Ben Nielsen

          That one dude.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Man, what a great situation for a young QB to go into to develop.

  • micah stephenson

    Wow! A QB good enough to groom to replace Brady but not good enough to replace A.Smith?

    • Lyle Graversen

      Blah, blah, blah, Alex Smith sucks, blah, blah, blah

    • Dave

      Aaron Murray

      • micah stephenson

        I hope so

        • Dave

          called it

    • tm1946

      There is no pick for a QB of the future this year. Hardly enough to cover positions without player currently on roster and depth.

    • mnelson52

      Only you

  • micah stephenson

    We need a wr and the top ten gone. I hope its as much depth at wr as yall think it is

    • Lyle Graversen

      Plenty of WR talent left. I’d love Moncrief or Ellington.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Texans have to take Nix here, right? Jerrell Powe would be their starting NT right now.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Justin Britt in round two! Saw him in sixth round in some mocks. Seattle beats to their own drum, man.

    • Lyle Graversen

      I know, I thought Gabe Jackson would be a perfect fit for them and their power run game, but I’m not complaining.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    damn, I like Fiedorowicz

    • Ben Nielsen

      Damn, indeed.

    • Lyle Graversen

      I say take Jake Murphy late.

  • Dave

    only 22 picks to go..

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      that sounds like torture!

      • sidibeke

        It is.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    First morning call to prayer sounding out of mosques in Istanbul and the Chiefs are still 21 picks away. Ugh …

    • sidibeke

      Not Constantinople?

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    DraftTek is still projecting the Chiefs to take FS, Terrence Brooks. Thoughts anyone?

    • Lyle Graversen

      I’d be thrilled.

      • Lyle Graversen

        Honestly, if KC were to get Brooks, Moncrief, Ellington, or Gabe Jackson I would be ecstatic.

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          you have been on the Moncrief bandwagon for a long time.

          • Lyle Graversen

            He’s a little raw, but I like his upside.

    • micah stephenson

      Rather have Murry.

      • tm1946

        Got needs that trump Murray, sorry not this year. Who might be available next year?

  • Lyle Graversen

    I think KC would have strongly considered Billy Turner had he been there.

  • mnelson52

    17 to go

  • Canad-Ian

    Alright, who’s everybody hoping for??

    • Ben Nielsen

      Andrew Luck.

  • mnelson52

    Would have been a good pick to convert to guard

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I want a DB or OG. WR seems tapped out right now

    • Lyle Graversen

      You don’t like Moncrief or Ellington huh?

    • tm1946

      Don’t we need a WR or are you buying Dorsey saying we have enough at WR currently on roster.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I want a WR, not sure if we will see one with value when we pick. Chiefs could use two WRs’ in this draft.

  • Lyle Graversen

    YOU CAN SEE KC IN THE DRAFT ORDER NOW ON NFL NETWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      lol you beat me to it!

    • tm1946

      Can hardly wait.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    There are still some great CB’s available — McGill, Breeland, Gaines, Desir — good value for all those guys around here.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Well said, I like McGill and Desir. McGill should have been gone by now.

    • tm1946

      Any Safeties left. Merlin does not value any WR currently. Or a TE or RB.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Brooks is out there. He would fit well

        • NicholasAlanClayton

          In a 32-participant 4-round mock draft, I ended up taking Craig Loston in the third. He may still be around in the 4th round, but I really like him, even here.

      • mnelson52

        But does Dorsey value any

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          that is the ultimate question!

          • tm1946

            Brooks, Loston, Breeland, Gaines, McGill, and Desir…… round and round the wheel goes, anyone else?

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            I would pass on Loston, he is more SS than FS. I think we need another single-high safety prospect

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            As good as Berry is in the SS role, I personally think he would be better with his athleticism in the FS role. Getter a reliable, instinctive hard-hitter would free him up to use his talents to be a more rangy INT-hawk and safety net for the Chiefs.

    • micah stephenson

      Not our style. I see us get n the best boring player available. Zzzzzzz

  • mnelson52

    10 to go

  • Lyle Graversen

    Damn

    • tm1946

      Any other S left?

      • Lyle Graversen

        I’d go OL or WR here now and then maybe Marqueston Huff in the 4th or 5th.

      • Lyle Graversen

        Unless they like Antone Exum as a FS and think his medicals check out. I like his upside.

      • mnelson52

        Cummings is our safety

        • tm1946

          Might wait til he actually gets on the field first.

  • micah stephenson

    Well there goes brooks

  • Lyle Graversen

    Man, Ravens D has added Mosley, Jernigan, and now Brooks…….nice.

    • tm1946

      Amazing what you can do with draft picks.

      • micah stephenson

        We wasted ours on Ass11

        • tm1946

          Let’s see if Dorsey agrees with you.

    • Ben Nielsen

      Ozzie Newsome knows what he’s doing.

  • micah stephenson

    Murry has to b BPA!

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Naw man, we need a punter.

      • micah stephenson

        Yea, colquit is get older. I can see them going for punter depth right here and then a QB in the 7th rd. Lol

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Let’s pimp out the military for cheap applause. I hate this

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Also not a fan.

    • tm1946

      Miss a lot of cheers or even something more that G__ to H___ when got back from RVN. So it is not so bad.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Ugghhhh!!!!!!! I HATE that the Raiders got Jackson.

    • tm1946

      Only third round, we have only missed a #2. Lots of kids will do well with other teams. Wish them the best until team plays Chiefs.

  • Lyle Graversen

    I REALLY hate that I like the Raiders entire draft.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Through two days the Raiders get an A. Bummer.

  • mr357magKC

    IDK guys Raiders starting to look pretty good on paper!!!

    • Ben Nielsen

      Not *that* good. They lost a ton and had a long way to go. Still, very nice draft so far.

      • mnelson52

        Good fa also

        • Ben Nielsen

          Meh, I’m not a fan of their FA. Especially relative to what they could have had/kept.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Nice tradeup for Nix

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Yankey is falling, just saying

    • Lyle Graversen

      What do you think of him? I wasn’t real impressed.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    McGill is my first choice right now. Who does everyone else like first?

    • Lyle Graversen

      Moncrief, followed closely by Ellington.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Hmmm, I really like Trai Turner here too.

      • Lyle Graversen

        If we go OL I’m thinking Dakota Dozier fits what they seem to look for.

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          I really like Charles Leno for round 5

          • Lyle Graversen

            I’d be good with that.

  • CSconce

    Is Moncrief still available? If so how about him with our 3rd round pick?

    • Ben Nielsen

      Don’t jinx it.

      • CSconce

        Sorry…

      • Lyle Graversen

        Philly will take him just to spite us for taking Ford

  • Chris Franklin

    Hometown Desir

  • Ben Nielsen

    To me this is the time to go WR. Receiver is the weakest unit on the team, good opportunity to get a very good talent here. Quality OL/CB available tomorrow.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Watch the Chiefs take a RB.

    • Blaize Richardson

      In all fairness there is some value at the position in this draft and we don’t know how the FO feels about Cyrus Gray really. Plus Knile’s coming off an injury in the playoffs. We have other needs for sure, but if someone really talented fell to us in the 6th (which is a possibility with how this draft is going), I wouldn’t be completely opposed to going that route.

  • Chris Franklin

    Think philly is still mad we took ford?

    • Ben Nielsen

      I would be if I were them.

  • tm1946

    How about trading down and get another pick next year? Every one else seems to find trading partners.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I am pounding the table for McGill at this point. Him or Desir has to be available at this point

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    PUNTER! PUNTER! PUNTER!

    • sidibeke

      Maybe we could take a Kicker with our 2nd 6th rounder, maybe from Cal or somewhere like that.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Chiefs on the clock!

  • Lyle Graversen

    I really liked Huff if we waited to round 4 or 5 for a WR. Take Moncrief or Ellington here!!!!!!!

  • Chris Franklin

    Desir

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Do you guys honestly feel comfortable going into OTA’s with just one punter on the roster? REALLY?

    • tm1946

      I could walk on only age will slow me down. Cheap too.

  • Chris Franklin

    Abbrederis to go against roby

  • Bdiddy

    Guess our boys were asleep waiting for their turn

  • ladner morse

    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Canad-Ian

    GAINES!!! YES!!!

  • ladner morse

    I love Gaines!!!!!!!!!

    • Canad-Ian

      Me too, I love that I have this reaction that I wish I had in the first round.

      • ladner morse

        Don’t worry… read my post in the morning.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Interesting. Corner, not the one I was looking for

  • Lyle Graversen

    Great upside CB, so I’m not mad, but I would have taken Moncrief.

  • Dave

    nice nice only two picks so far and both in a pretty bad position in respective rounds but we have done very well

  • NicholasAlanClayton
    • ladner morse

      Love that piece!

  • Chris Franklin

    Next year we get the we from missouri

  • BWrangler

    Addressing needs. Can’t really complain. Next pick needs to be WR though.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Gaines is there for Welker.

  • Richard Comstock

    Man it looks good to pass on Denard now..Good size and blazing speed…Love it! i wonder when we get a wr now

    • ladner morse

      Tomorrow morning by 10:30 is my guess.

  • CSconce

    Was hoping for Moncrief, but Gaines is looking better!

  • berttheclock

    FORTY FIVE to FORTY FOUR

    Another excellent DEFENSIVE pick.

    • sidibeke

      Have to win your division. 3rd edge rusher and big DB. I like it. Commings or Abdullah better be the FS man, though.

  • Auburn78

    A 6’2″ Moncrief on the board and we go with a cb. I just died a little inside. This was the wr I wanted to pair with Bowe.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Our defense was losing us games late in the season last year, not our offense.

      • micah stephenson

        The D was wore out from do n all the work the 1st 9 games.

    • ladner morse

      There will still be a couple of good WRs there when the Chiefs pick next round while CBs are thinning out.

      • Auburn78

        I agree with that. But I don’t like this pick. He’s fast and got the right size. That’s it. He has shown on tape an unwillingness to pursue the ballcarrier…shys from contact… and way too many times his man gets off the line free. He’s got the toolbelt but no tools. He’s a 5th round or later corner im my opinion

        • Auburn78

          And Moncrief had to go to the damn Colts. Well at least I’ll get to see him play.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    OK, just finished my grade and comment for DraftTek. Guys, Gaines is your FS, not CB. He can’t play press-man.

    • sidibeke

      Move him to FS.. Sub 4.4 speed and 6′. I’ll take that.

      • berttheclock

        Long arms to boot. His coach at Rice said he could have played in the SEC.

    • berttheclock

      I have read at least three reports on him. Two say he can press. One says he is weak on the press. I gave up reading the 4th because it was Nowacki or whatever. The guy Lyle Graverson disregards. From the positive reports, they suggest he has a ton of talent but really needs pro coaching. Had he gone to K-State, most fans would know more about him.

  • BWrangler

    • calciomoti

      Meh

  • Lyle Graversen

    Gaines was Mike Loyko’s #64 overall prospect. From his draft guide:

    “Phillip Gaines had the misfortune of playing his college football at Rice, otherwise he’d have a lot more national buzz surrounding him. Gaines is the fastest CB in the 2014 draft class and combines that natural speed with length. Skilled at matching up in man coverage and playing from the line. Mixes in press, bump and run, and press-bail looks and shows smooth transition skills. Gaines’ straight line closing speed allows him to play aggressive, knowing he can make up ground when the ball is thrown. Competitive and feisty at the catch point. Has broken up an impressive 38 passes over the course of his career. To this point Gaines hasn’t been challenged by the athleticism of opposing WR. If he wants to play the same way at the next level he’ll have to get stronger and more technique sound. After his blistering combine performance Gaines
    has elevated his stock so much, that he could realistically be selected in the 2nd or at worst 3rd Round.”

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Brandon Coleman could be in the mix in round 4

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    5:56 a.m. in Istanbul. I should probably go to sleep or something.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I was just thinking that

    • Ben Nielsen

      You are the awesomest.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Who are the hard core addicts showing up tomorrow?

    • Ben Nielsen

      Do I count?

    • sidibeke

      Won’t be solely staring at my computer but definitely checking in.

    • Troy Utt

      Count on it Merlin! From the comfort of my recliner watching the Pre-Draft Party to the cheers for Mr. Irrelevant & the Post Draft break-down.
      Over the years ( as many others) I have turned draft weekend into my personal NFL sporting pilgrimage!
      Some folks don’t understand… Then again, they are the same one’s asking us the questions during footba season!!! LOL