May 8, 2014; New York, NY, USA; NFL commissioner Roger Goodell poses with the draft prospects in attendance before the 2014 NFL Draft at Radio City Music Hall. Mandatory Credit: William Perlman/THE STAR-LEDGER via USA TODAY Sports

2014 NFL Draft Live Thread: First Round


And here we go.

The NFL Draft is finally here and the Houston Texans are on the clock. We’ll keep you updated on all the fun from draft day here and discuss the draft in the comments. We are hopeful for many entertaining walkup songs and handshakes. Remember that time there was that picture between Dontari Poe and Roger Goodell that made it look like they were kissing? That was the best.

So have at it, Addicts. For the next three days, football is back!

UPDATE #1

The Oakland Raiders selected linebacker Khalil Mack from Buffalo. Mack makes three-straight picks (three of top four) the Chiefs will play this season. So… yay.

UPDATE #2

Johnny F. Football (It should be noted this pic is doctored, it’s not real. It’s still awesome. Really, really awesome.)

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  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Welcome Addicts!

  • BWrangler

    No big shocker there.

    • Ben Nielsen

      I was hoping they’d take Reggie Bush.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        What, not Ted Ginn?

        • Ben Nielsen

          Another botched first overall pick by the Texans.

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            He is the Nuke LaLoosh of this draft.

        • BWrangler

          Leon Sandcastle should’ve gone numero uno ONCE AGAIN!

          • Ben Nielsen

            Jerry Ricecakes, sir.

  • Ben Nielsen

    The NFL is breaking my internet connect.

  • mnelson52

    No surprise in the first two rounds

    • Ben Nielsen

      Two rounds already?! RECORD SPEED! ;)

  • mnelson52

    Texans may try to trade back into the first round if QBs start disappearing

    • Ben Nielsen

      Hope the start disappearing around the Chiefs’ pick.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Love the Bortles pick. Ballsy move

    • BWrangler

      I really love the “Manziel sucks” chants

    • Ben Nielsen

      Ballsy, indeed.

  • mnelson52

    They needed a QB in a bad way and I agree. With the pick.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Blaine Gabbert is available.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Browns trade with Buffalo. This should be interesting.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Is Sammy Watkins really worth two first round picks? (Hint: The answer is no.)

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Wow Watkins going to the Bills

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Thoughts on the pick Merlin?

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I like, not love Watkins. Ben said it, two one’s is a lot to give up for him. What do you think?

      • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

        I think he is a good receiver, but it was too much that they gave up.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Kahlil Mack is a stud. I would love to have him

    • Ben Nielsen

      May get to play against him twice a year in Oakland…

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        and we will

        • Ben Nielsen

          :(

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            good pick by the Raiders. I hate saying that lol

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Merlin called it, that is a good pick up, but come on its the Raiders. How many good picks have they had and still push up the last of the AFC West?

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Calling it now Manziel does not get picked in the first ten.

    • Anthony Charlton

      thinking Manziel goes to Minnesota and Bridgewater goes to Tampa

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    If Pioli was making the ATL pick, it would be Matthews

  • mnelson52

    We’ll find out how good he is twice a year.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Scott Pioli is on the clock…

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Dimetroff just sent Pioli on candy wrapper patrol so he can work in peace.

      • Ben Nielsen

        Baggies full of candy wrappers.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Which bad pick will Pioli make this time?

    • Larry Devore

      There are no bad picks, only crappy decisions

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Just for the record, I would not touch Johnny Football with a 10 foot pole

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      I think he has skills, but one good shot on him in the open field he will be down

  • Deadmeat

    18 more picks and hoping ha ha and Pryor falls

    • Deadmeat

      Err 17

  • Anthony Charlton

    I think Johnny Football has potential BUT his off the shenanigans will be a distraction

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      He hanging out with Drake could be a distraction

  • Patrick Allen

    If the Browns get Bridgewater at 9 and they got an extra 1 next year, that is a pretty big win.

    • mnelson52

      What you expect with Kevin Costner as the GM

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Nice Mike Evens and Vincent Jackson

    • Deadmeat

      Who do u want on your fantasy team?

      • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

        Jerry Rickcake, the guy is a beast

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          Great hands, but Sandcastle can shut him down!

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    That’s two Texas A&M players selected and Manziel is still in the green room. I love it.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Mike Evans > Sammy Watkins

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Creep pencil mustache to go with the amish beard

  • Anthony Charlton

    Vikes trade 1 spot down and get a 5th rounder I say they trade the 9th for the 10th pick and get another pick

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      That would be a good move, aquire more picks

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    WHAT!?!?!

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Gilbert, I really like him. This is high for him though

  • Deadmeat

    Huh?

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Johnny Football to the Vikes = Fran Tarkenton?

    • Ben Nielsen

      Chiefs v. Vikings in Super Bowl 54?

      • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

        Had a Packer fan at work say Chiefs Packers revisit it that one.

        • Ben Nielsen

          That’ll be Super Bowl 51. Three more years, baby!

  • Ben Nielsen

    It has been eight picks and this draft is already insane. I’m worried.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Come on Ebron drop to 23

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Barr, another nice pick. Lots of upside, but he is the kind of guy that could flame out too

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      agreed but if given the right coaching can be a impact player

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I agree

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Receiver to the Lions

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Eh close….

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        He is a receiver more than a TE

  • Larry Devore

    Ebron just went

  • Anthony Charlton

    What is going on with this draft?

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Smoking the good stuff

    • Ben Nielsen

      Random names being selected. Lots of hugs. Someone is called Johnny Football.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Oh wow, that’s a reach

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Ebron = Davis speed good hands and now with that passing attack already in place, good for them

  • Ben Nielsen

    Calvin Johnson has to be happy with the Ebron pick.

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      No kidding, if he can be good it will be hard to pick which one you double in the red zone

      • Ben Nielsen

        The answer is you can’t double anyone.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Unrelated, but does anyone else have the side banner add entitled 10 stars who killed people? LOL

    • Ben Nielsen

      No, but I am being asked “Does size really matter?”

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I wonder if those ads are targeted. Just saying

        • Ben Nielsen

          I’ve come to grips that I will always and forever have small hands. It’s all about how I use them.

        • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

          Hmmm interesting theory.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Proud I called the Johnny Football not selected in the first ten

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Nick gets a gold star

      • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

        Nice, see Mom I am not useless!

  • Ben Nielsen

    Odds of Chiefs taking an offensive lineman are decreasing quickly.

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      I say we probably trade out and still take a receiver in the 2nd

      • Ben Nielsen

        With who?

        • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

          Maybe we do a deal with the Niners they move up we take their pick and one in the third or fourth. I have no idea.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I never thought the Chiefs would go OT in round one. They might go OG

      • Ben Nielsen

        Figured they’d take an OT and move him to guard.

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          Possible, I see that as a round 3-5 move.

          • Ben Nielsen

            Martin is the only guy left who is 1st round draftable IMO. We’ll see. Waiting ’til 3-5 makes a ton of sense.

  • Bdiddy

    We’ll see…Zach Martin may be there and I wouldn’t mind seeing us get him

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    The more I think about it, the more I start to feel that the Chiefs think they are set at FS

    • mnelson52

      Yep they will get a pass rusher

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Beckham.. damn. That’s the first of the short list to come off the board.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Probably going to play the slot, a little small for the outside.

  • Bdiddy

    We don’t need a WR with our first pick…

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Stop with the Dallas and Johny talk, you don’t pay your QB that much money just the draft another qb in the first round, to sit on the bench for what three four years? Romo was not that bad.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Jerry is a big game hunter. He probably took a viagra now that johnny football is dropping.

      • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

        If that last longer that four hours he needs to go to a doctor.

  • Ben Nielsen

    I’m shaking with fear right now. I’m serious.

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Why is that, still some good players out there.

      • Ben Nielsen

        I need a beer. Can’t handle this. I would be a horrible GM.

  • James

    We need some secondary help

    • Ben Nielsen

      …and o-line help…and wide receiver help… and pass rush help…

      Also, I need a lot of help.

      • James

        O line help takes to long to be pro ready

  • mnelson52

    Satellite just went out because of storm

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    make the F’n pick!!!

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      The blindside 2?

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I am too old to put up with these ‘tug at the heartstrings’ moves

        • Ben Nielsen

          Merlin is heartless.

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    That St Louis D line is good

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Nelly should be happy, he can go ride wit him

  • Ben Nielsen

    The NFC West is unbelievably talented. Good Deity. Arizona may be the worst team in that division and they’d win two of the divisions in the AFC probably.

    • mnelson52

      And we play all the NFC west

      • Ben Nielsen

        :(

  • Bdiddy

    Damn

  • Ben Nielsen

    Fuller to Chicago means one of the players projected to ahead of KC in mocks will be available to KC. Most mocks had Fuller going after pick 23.

  • Ben Nielsen

    Pryor, Clinton-Dix, Bridgewater, Manziel are all still available…

    • CSconce

      I’d take Pryor or Dix (or Cooks)…pass on Bridgewater and Manziel

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Interesting pick by the steelers

  • Bdiddy

    Thought Mosley might go before him…

  • Bdiddy

    hate to say it Ben, but with these guys still hanging around, it increases the odds we get a tasty trade offer…you’ll have to wait a little longer, that’s my bet

    • Ben Nielsen

      I think you may be right.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Will Jerrah get tempted by the shiny object?

  • micah stephenson

    We can finally get a QB!!!

    • mnelson52

      You said that about Geno

  • Bdiddy

    We need to procure at least one more top 100 pick…hopefully two

  • Bdiddy

    we have a good one of those already

  • Bdiddy

    yeah…you should jump over to the Jets Micah

    • micah stephenson

      You can jump …..deeeeeez nuuuuuuts! Lol

    • micah stephenson

      I would but I’m on my way to jump on yo momma! Lol

      • Bdiddy

        If you hadn’t already lost all credibility with your lack of football acumen…you just lost it there.

      • CSconce

        Has anyone checked Miicah’s ID…he sounds like he is 12 years old!

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    ohhhhh Martin

  • Bdiddy

    DAMN DAMN DAMN

  • micah stephenson

    Yeaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Uh ooooooo. We can get a qb

  • Ben Nielsen

    Oh Deity. Crap is going to hit the fan in the 20′s. Things are about to get weird.

  • mnelson52

    Who did steelers take

  • Bdiddy

    Go away Micah…nobody shares your concern about Alex

    • James

      I second that

      • Peter C

        I will third that.

        • Deadmeat

          Fourth

        • Travis Forsyth

          Fourth.

      • micah stephenson

        You must b his b**ch! Lol

    • micah stephenson

      Well you should.

  • Travis Forsyth

    Clinton dix anyone??? Hopefully. So far so good

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I don’t like him.

      • Travis Forsyth

        Really? Him and berry paired together in the secondary…man, I think that’d be cool.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    solid pick by the ravens. they need o-line badly though

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Ya nice to have defense but when flaco is looking up from his back they might regret it

  • Bdiddy

    Mosely…I was hoping he would drop

  • mnelson52

    I wanted him

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Getting closer…. getting excited

  • Ben Nielsen

    Drinking heavily.

    • tm1946

      Ease up about an hour to go. And the KC Chiefs pick______

  • mnelson52

    Kony Ealy?

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    jets pick should be interesting. those fans are.. rough

  • tm1946

    Literally 5 good players who can fall to us. And I am not talking about Lee

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      My gut tells me that Lee is the pick,

      • Peter C

        I knew it all along. I even picked him for us.

      • tm1946

        Not my favorite but if it is who Reid wants, I am there.
        ESPN just mentioned Manziel to KC

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          gag

          • tm1946

            Don’t throw up on the messenger.
            Just saying the Chief’s will play football after 2014, and Smith has not signed extension.

  • Bdiddy

    I stick by my prediction…we will NOT go WR with our first pick. Even if we trade out of the first round.

    • Ben Nielsen

      I’ll second this.

      • Bdiddy

        So much talent to be had in the third and fourth

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Nice pick by the Jets

  • Bdiddy

    He was nowhere on our boards

  • micah stephenson

    What!!!!! Wow. Jets needed wrs.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Ryan is a defense guy and they signed two FA WR’s

      • tm1946

        Suspect Pryor can play.

  • Bdiddy

    Box safety that makes big hits, but he needs to learn how to tackle

    • James

      Exactly

  • mnelson52

    There is so much talent that no one is paying much to move up

    • Ben Nielsen

      Only one safety left… one corner left… one WR left depending on your perspective of Lee… There’s something to trade for.

    • tm1946

      Unless they want Manziel, if Chiefs do not want him might get a pick or two

    • Bdiddy

      Candidates for moving up are the ones who have one or maybe two very specific needs and have their heart set on a guy that could go to another team before they can pull the trigger…

  • micah stephenson

    Uh oooooo. Cud we finally get a QB or will we go best right guard available? Lol

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    WTF!!!!!!!!

    • tm1946

      RT in college. Not exactly first round pick guess they needed a T no matter what.

  • Bdiddy

    wow

  • Bdiddy

    I didnt have him here

  • Ben Nielsen

    Dolphins are a nightmare.

    • tm1946

      That pick had to sober you up or at least made you throw up a lttle.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Dennard is falling, just saying

    • Bdiddy

      I’d be good with Dennard…if we were to not trade out…but I would prefer a trade that nets us at least one more top 100 pick

  • mnelson52

    That was the only big surprise so far

    • Ben Nielsen

      Trading an extra first round pick for Watkins was surprising to me.

  • Lyle Graversen

    What’s up everybody? Nothing like working a HS track meet on draft night! Looks like an interesting draft so far.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      I interviewed this afternoon and drove 4 hours home. I know the feeling

  • Bdiddy

    DAMN…that hurts our chances for a trade

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Someone trading up to grab a QB is the best chance the Chiefs have for a trade down.

    • Bdiddy

      true…true

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Crap, crap, crap. there goes Cooks. That’s #2 off the short list.

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Who is on the rest of your list?

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Lee, Su’a-Filo, Tuitt, Latimer,

        • Bdiddy

          I like Lee, but he won’t be there for our third rounder…don’t like him at 23

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            Lee was a top ten talent coming into the year. He could end up being a huge steal at #23. Philly worries me. They could take Lee

        • Bdiddy

          Personally like Laitmer better than Lee…as far as potential goes…think he will be a better value pick

  • Bdiddy

    there goes who we would have taken had we gone WR

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Damn I liked that guy

  • tm1946

    That one hurt, Cooks can play

  • CSconce

    Was hoping Cooks would fall to us!

  • Bdiddy

    I can almost guarantee we don’t go WR with our top pick now…not with Lee

    • CSconce

      Yep that prob clinched it now.

  • Lyle Graversen

    Man, Cooks in NO w/Brees is almost not fair. That fills the Sproles loss for them pretty well.

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Note to self draft brees in fantasy

  • mnelson52

    The rest of the receivers are about even. I think we go pass rush with the first pick.

    • tm1946

      I was a DE person but am getting wrapped up in this draft. With Manziel and Lee left, praying for a trade down.

    • Bdiddy

      I think you’re right Mnelson

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    Still some good DT’s in there

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Good, Dix is gone.

  • Bdiddy

    bye bye Clinton Dix

  • toperspective

    Too bad. Thought Dix might fall to the Chiefs

  • CSconce

    Dang now HaHa is gone!

  • Travis Forsyth

    Damn

  • Bdiddy

    We be on the clock in less than 6…and counting

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    if anyone is curious, DraftTek.com resims the entire draft after each pick. Fun to see what the projections are

  • micah stephenson

    Uh ooooo. Its almost time!

  • toperspective

    Now watch…the Eagles will trade to the team that wants Manziel

    • tm1946

      Go back to your room, no soup for you

    • micah stephenson

      Don’t say that! We can still get Bridgewater.

      • tm1946

        Micah, what I said to toper. goes double for you

      • toperspective

        I’m just saying that the pick may be valuable if someone wants Johnny

      • Bdiddy

        OMG…Bridgewater would be the LAST QB Reid would want…

        • micah stephenson

          Top QB in the draft. Only 4 ints last yr.

  • micah stephenson

    Both safetys gone!!!! Good! M.Lee or QB?

    • Jason

      Dennard!

  • Tribal Rage

    Im tripping right now. I hate the Jets. I hope they average 8 points a game. they stole our saftey.

  • Bdiddy

    Philly traded

  • micah stephenson

    O fudge!

  • Bdiddy

    johnny gonnie

    • tm1946

      And any chance to get another pick, s.o.b.

  • Bdiddy

    lol

  • Bdiddy

    Micah gonna slit his wrists

    • tm1946

      may race him to the razor.

      • Bdiddy

        Meh…we got our QB for the next 6 to 10 years

        • toperspective

          eh

      • Bdiddy

        Much to Micah’s dismay

  • Jason

    Flowers in the slot, cooper at safety, dennard on lockdown

  • Tribal Rage

    we have no trade down value, safeties and wr’s gone….nightmare scenario

    • tm1946

      No Lee is still there, oh happy day.

      • Bdiddy

        Won’t take Lee at 23

    • toperspective

      Chiefs can’t get a break. #1 in the lousy draft and one pick too low this year.

  • Bdiddy

    Big surprise

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Dennard falling really has me tempted.

    • tm1946

      No kid left who I see as a cannot miss. Cleveland’s move hurt, not the player but a chance to trade down and get another pick.

      • toperspective

        yep. Really too bad.

  • Jason

    Ha ha. He hates it! He’ll be a chief in 4 years

  • mnelson52

    The eagles got our trade down

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Exactly.

  • toperspective

    Browns are now must see.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      See manziel before he gets lit up and his career is over.

      • toperspective

        I’ll still tune in to watch. Every time A&M was on I watched and I couldn’t care less about A&M.

    • Bdiddy

      Watkins is a Bill

      • toperspective

        Yeah, caught that

        • Bdiddy

          Was the Browns’ pick that Buffalo traded up to though…

  • sidibeke

    And KC picks right after Manziel goes, so a good reason to ignore the Chiefs, again.

    • toperspective

      Yep. Story of the Chiefs fan.

  • Jason

    Lee is a steal after the shet storm at USC last year

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Let’s talk about johnny football and forget the Chiefs are on the clock

    • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

      Who we picking?

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Lee or Dennard

        • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

          Hey NFL Network the Chiefs are on the clock!!!!

          • toperspective

            Not one word

        • Jason

          Good with both. No lineman. The qb smokescreen worked!

    • James

      They will still be talking after our pick about him

    • Bdiddy

      Meh…I would care more about what the Chiefs do than the amount of face time they get while on the clock…

  • Bdiddy

    Damn…we are picking

  • Bdiddy

    Hageman or Tuitt

  • Bdiddy

    dee ford

  • mnelson52

    Yes

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Wow

  • Jason

    Wtf!!!!

  • Larry Devore

    Ford

  • tm1946

    As usual the Chief’s just fall a little short. History says we are snake bit.
    And the KC Chief’s chose Dee Ford, DE….. know I am impressed.

  • Lyle Graversen

    WOW, I’m surprised but this guy has some of the best pure pass rush speed in draft.

  • CSconce

    Nice…fast pass rusher that may play linebacker if needed!

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      he is a LB in the Chiefs scheme

  • Patrick Allen

    Been saying for a while the Chiefs need a pass rusher. Hali nearly finished.

    • Bdiddy

      Yep…Houston will step into Hali’s place as “The man” and Dee Ford will be opposite him in 2015…maybe sooner

  • mnelson52

    I’m happy as heck with the pick

  • Nick_Floyd_Arrowhead Addict

    And back to Manziel. Man i hope he gets lit up

  • Frank Leggio

    WTF

  • Travis Forsyth

    Well if he can knock manning flat on his ass, I’m all for it…I guess.

  • sidibeke

    Well, we saw what happens to our D when we have no pass rush.

    • toperspective

      What about the terrible secondary?

      • Bdiddy

        No pass rush would make Seattle’s secondary look terrible…

        • toperspective

          Manning gets rid of it quickly. Chiefs can’t cover for 3 seconds.

          • Bdiddy

            He does so under no duress…you make him rush and he is VERY human.

      • sidibeke

        No S available at 23, no trade partner and KC must feel reasonably good about Commings/Abdullah pairing. Not much of a choice on that. DB/WR 3rd/4th likely in order of best avail.

        • toperspective

          I agree. Bad luck….again.

  • toperspective

    Yawn. Reid loves guys with injury issues.

  • sidibeke

    The talking heads hate the pick. I’m liking it more and more.

    • toperspective

      Because Dorsey and Reid did so well last year?

      • sidibeke

        So, you’re saying you don’t like the pick.

        • toperspective

          I’m just really afraid of guys who are hurt a lot in college.

          • sidibeke

            A la Moeaki. I hear you; best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

  • berttheclock

    Great Pick!

    • tm1946

      Yep, cannot stop the run and has a injury history in college. Prefect selection.

      • berttheclock

        I want him to sack Manning. To HELL with the run. I am positive team doctors have checked him and given their OKs.

        • Bdiddy

          I am with you Bert…Manning HAS to get dirty…and if there is a God, he’ll get a little bloody too…

        • Bdiddy

          Maybe we can put a bounty out for Mays to rip his ear off…

  • micah stephenson

    Becus Ass11 want so much money, we can’t afford to resign J.Houston, so we draft his replacement now.

    • Bdiddy

      Football ignorance strikes again…Hali has way more cap hit than Houston.

  • Bdiddy

    I was hoping for pass rush more than anything in this draft, but another pick would have been better

  • Frank Leggio

    Hate it. Injury issue. Hard to rush the passer from the sideline. WR later is fine. A QB would have been great, just to lock up AS11 for 4 years and develop. Or, defensive back.

    • Jason

      Agree. Hasn’t made it through a full season. Besides that he Is Hali

  • ladner morse

    14.5 TFLs and 10.5 sacks in 2014. I love the pick as the Chiefs make it a priority to get after the QB first and foremost.

    • Deadmeat

      Love the pick. Glad Johnny football wasn’t there. Didn’t want to hear Micah

      • berttheclock

        Cleveland and Picking at 22.

        Brady Quinn, Brandon Weedon and Johnny Manziel. All 22 picks.

        • toperspective

          Ohh….bad omen. Personally I love watching Manziel but I have no idea whether he’ll make it in the pros. Seems pretty slight.

          • Bdiddy

            Cleveland is THE place for great quarterbacks to go to endure a slow and painful death.

          • toperspective

            Cle has some pieces in place to have a QB succeed.

      • mnelson52

        They were going pass rush all the way. It was our weakest link.

  • ladner morse

    The secondary gets better when the rush gets better.

    Plus… I’m almost certain they’ll address the DBs later.

    • toperspective

      With this secondary that’s the only hope.

      • Bdiddy

        See your initial post on this subject…I responded there too. The secondary can only be as good as its pass rush.

        • toperspective

          Did you watch the games v Denver last year? There was so much immediate separation that it didn’t matter who was rushing.

    • mnelson52

      I’m totally in going pass rush first. Heck I wouldn’t be upset if we went pass rush with our next pick. We are not going to win a shootout against top offenses, so we have to find a way to stop them with defense.

  • Patrick Allen

    Apparently Hali is now fat. Looks like this was partially a replacement pick

    • tm1946

      I am betting if Hali is here at the beginning of the season, Ford becomes the next great special teamer.

    • Calchiefsfan

      Lots of injuries with Hali and Houston late in the season. It seriously affected our pass rush. We lost the first Charger game because of no depth at OLB. Is this insurance, (can’t have enough good pass rushers), or is this a case of Dorsey’s best player available?

      • Bdiddy

        Ahhh, Hell! This was definitely NOT BPA. This was purely a need pick specific to our inability to put a QB on the ground!

      • toperspective

        This had to be a need pick but he clearly wasn’t BPA.

  • Deadmeat

    Love the pick. Was hope Dix or Pryor. Can’t believe they lasted so long

    • tm1946

      Under sized, never, NEVER, had a year in college when he was not injured. But he can play the piano.

  • tm1946

    Channel 5 is going wow over such a brilliant move . Seems Andy is a great developer of DL. Strange all I ever heard was he was not all that big a deal on defenses. Guess things change.

    PS after the selection was made, the crowd went silent.

  • Patrick Allen

    Browns must have really thought the Chiefs would take Johnny Football. Now we will never know.

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      They may have been jumping Cincy

  • Daniel Mayfield

    Ford? What happened to Hageman? I don’t remember the Ford coming up before. I could be wrong though.
    They even said his rush was 4.53. I think Hageman had a 4.4. Oh well. Dorsey & Reid usually know what they are doing and pick from the line, offense or defense, in the the 1st round

    • tm1946

      I know Fisher played like an all pro last year, I doubt this kid plays before the 6th game if he can get past Hali. The plan must be very special.

      • mnelson52

        I think he is Jacksons replacement. Walker is just depth

        • toperspective

          He’s strictly a pass rusher whereas Jackson was strictly a run stopper.

          • Bdiddy

            That was the buzz on Jared Allen, but he learned how to stop the run.

          • toperspective

            Ford is undersized.

        • tm1946

          Hopefully he can play ironman football, G on offense and Halis relief, heck, maybe he can catch passes when not blocking.

      • Daniel Mayfield

        He’s a DL. They said they COULD move him to an LB.

        Who knows? Only Reid & Dorsey

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    I gave the Chiefs pick a C+ grade. What do you all think? Fair? Too high? Too low?

    • Bdiddy

      Grading any pick right now is pure folly…

      • Patrick Allen

        Incorrect. Grading picks now is pure FUN!

        • berttheclock

          Remember when Mel Kiper, Jr said after the infamous draft of Ricky Stanzi, he was the steal of the draft.

          • Patrick Allen

            He said he would be starting by now.

    • Deadmeat

      I love it. Another pass rusher. Maybe they move Hali inside, then we got a real pass rush

      • CSconce

        That’s my thought…thinking that would be great!!

    • mnelson52

      A in my opinion

    • Daniel Mayfield

      I have no idea….just from his speed and his moves, I’d give him a Cāž•. I have to learn more about him

    • Bdiddy

      I will grade their line of thinking as an A, because I believe our greatest need is pass rush…The choice itself, I am hesitant to call it bad solely because of Ford’s injury issues, but I would be lying if I said I wasn’t somewhat worried. If he stays healthy I think we’ll be pronouncing Dorsey and Reid geniuses yet again.

  • berttheclock

    My one disappointment was seeing both Beckham and Cooks off the board, so the Niners had no reason to move up to 23 and give more lower round picks.

    • Deadmeat

      Not the safeties?

      • berttheclock

        Yeah, I left them out by mistake. The Niners do need depth at safety.

    • mnelson52

      I thought Texans might move up for qb

  • tm1946

    Well it is all over but the signing of Smith, one or two Gs, #2 WR. And to think I am a DE guy, just never considered Ford a first round talent.

    • toperspective

      You’re not the only one. Chiefs seem to excel at taking guys ahead of expectation.

  • sidibeke

    Drafted bloated contract replacement last year, and again this year.

    • berttheclock

      Rookie salaries are lower since the implementation of the 2011 CBA agreement.

      • sidibeke

        I meant Albert’s and Hali’s as the bloated contracts being replaced. Guarantee this is Tamba’s last season with KC.

        • Bdiddy

          His tank is a tick above E right now…

          • sidibeke

            And he’s what, 11M against the cap next year?

          • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

            almost 12 in 2015

          • sidibeke

            There you have it.

  • Calchiefsfan

    What’s with going to Matt Millen and co. for the Chiefs and Chargers picks and then back to the big boys after that? I really have developed a complex over the years because of stuff like this.

    • toperspective

      And how is Millen qualified to talk about the draft?

      • Calchiefsfan

        Exactly! Worst GM and judge of talent in the history of the NFL.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        I think the question is, how is Millen qualified to talk about football.

      • sidibeke

        Exactly Cal’s point.

  • Calchiefsfan

    These picks are really starting to get interesting.

  • Kcfan

    No one excited about 3rd and long with walker, Poe, and Hali upfront with Houston and ford off the edge?

    • sidibeke

      Really think they’ll use Hali, Houston and Ford all at the same time?

      • Kcfan

        On third and long yes. Not early downs. Ford will be pass rush specialist.

        • tm1946

          First round pick on a kid who cannot/will not play every down….. sounds like T. Jackson.

          • Kcfan

            After 10 sacks you will be screaming DROY

          • toperspective

            I’m always happy to be wrong on these things.

      • tm1946

        Heck if we could just play with 20 guys on defense, then we would show them.

        • sidibeke

          We still couldn’t cover Hylton, though.

          • toperspective

            Painful memory. At least Lewis is gone

          • sidibeke

            Amen.

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Wow Benjamin. That’s a boom/bust pick

    • Calchiefsfan

      Carolina might have just blown it, especially with lee still on the board.

      • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

        Lee is more of a WCO receiver.

        • Calchiefsfan

          So I guess it boils down to scheme fit. I really am not a big Benjamin fan because of his attitude. He’s a guy that might get a rude awakening in the NFL.

  • toperspective

    Oh well. I didn’t expect an exciting draft with a 23rd pick and no 2nd but I was hoping someone unexpected would fall.

    • Kcfan

      Beckham and cooks were gone. No safeties left. They like big corners. Assuming no one wanted to move up that pick was as good as you can expect

      • sidibeke

        Yeah, I was hoping for a trade down after I saw Pryor off the board, but then Philly traded out…

        • Kcfan

          I was hoping we could get Houston to move up for manziel. Thought we could trade back to 33 and pick up first pick of 3rd.

          • toperspective

            I was hoping for something like that also.

    • sidibeke

      So we wait for, what, 10:30 EST tomorrow? They do 2nd and 3rd on Friday, yes?

      • Ben Nielsen

        2nd and 3rd on Friday, yes.

  • Bdiddy

    I would have been on edge if Cooks were still available when we were on the clock…he was the best fit for us in the top tier of receivers. If we would have taken him, I wouldn’t have been upset, but I would have felt like it was a lower value pick given our specific needs.

    • Kcfan

      Who did you want us to pick?

      • Bdiddy

        Clowney…lol

        I am happy with Ford, because pass rusher was by far our biggest need.

        • Kcfan

          Lol! I know we all had expectations but considering who was gone I was happy.

          • Bdiddy

            Same here. We love to sit in our armchairs and scream BPA, but it makes no sense to ignore your needs

  • Kcfan

    Anyone think we will trade flowers for a 2 and maybe another pick?

    • sidibeke

      Not since we went pass rusher in round 1. We don’t have the body to replace him.

      • Kcfan

        Pierre desir in 2

        • sidibeke

          There’s a thought.

  • Bdiddy

    Awwwww…There went Bridgewater. Micah will have to become a closet Viking fan now…

    • Kcfan

      Bray with 2-3 years of Andy Reid coaching is better than guys in this draft

      • micah stephenson

        No he is not.

        • Kcfan

          Bridgewater not better than geno but of course you love both

          • micah stephenson

            Yup. I like em all. Geno, Bortles, Menziel, TBW, Carr, Murry, hell I’d take Savage at this point!

    • micah stephenson

      I think Murry is still available