Jan 19, 2014; Denver, CO, USA; Denver Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway and quarterback Peyton Manning (18) after the 2013 AFC championship playoff football game against the New England Patriots at Sports Authority Field at Mile High. Mandatory Credit: Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports

What's Most Concerning About The Off-Season For The Chiefs So Far? [Poll]


The first week of free agency has dimmed the optimism of many Chiefs fans who were hoping to make a big move in towards competing with Denver. The lack of a big name signing while Denver appears to be signing any and everyone has even led some to already throw in the towel on the 2014 season.

It has been intense enough that our own Stacy Smith wrote about it this morning. It is really good and everyone should take a few minutes to read it if you haven’t already. Here’s a clip:

Suddenly, all faith in the front office had vanished. Optimism was vanquished with the loss of Emmanuel Sanders. He’s a quality football player, but not the kind of singular acquisition that would help get Kansas City over the hump. This loss was more symbolic. The situation served as a microcosm for being mired in mediocrity for the past two decades. The ne’er-do-well Chiefs had again left their adoring fans with little to believe in. At least, such is the case for some.

There seems to be two camps of people when it comes to the dismay over the Chiefs’ off-season through one week: A) The Chiefs haven’t been aggressive enough in acquiring and/or keeping talent or B) the Broncos have acquired enough talent that there is no way the Chiefs can catch them.

So we ask you, Addicts who are down on the Chiefs early off-season returns, what concerns you most about the way the last week has unfolded? Is it the lack of Chiefs’ moves or is it Denver getting richer than Solomon? Vote in the poll and let us know why you voted the way you did.

What is most concerning about the Chiefs' off-season so far?

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  • Tortuga65

    Can you add “Annoying casual fans who don’t understand cap space and how to build a team”?

  • jimfromkcj

    Ben, the most discouraging thing is that we were expecting more from Dorsey, and he completely screwed the pooch with the signing of Bowe to a contract that must have boggled the minds of every one. Didn’t he know by signing that contract what the result would be? I did and I am sure many more on this blog would say the same. What is even stranger is the fact that no one had any idea that we were going to get the bonus of the cap going up to 133 mill. Most were guessing around 126 mill, So we have to come to the conclusion that Dorsey just isn’t as savvy as we originally thought. Let’s hear what you and the other writers here would do or would have done differently than the Dorsey Reid combo. Be ballsy and put yourself in the cross hairs.

    • Ben Nielsen

      Challenge accepted.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I’m still baffled at how so many people are convinced that Bowe’s new contract was a misstep by Dorsey. He’s only played one season, in a new offense, with a quarterback who doesn’t like throwing into tight windows. Bowe’s not the type of receiver to create lots of separation, but he’s a big body, with a wide catch radius that you have to trust to fight for the ball. It took time for him to earn Smith’s trust. Look at his yard per catch averages over the final seven games of the season. They were consistently high.

      If he lays an egg again next year, the case can be made. For now, the dropoff in his numbers can just as easily be explained by a new quarterback and a new offense.

      • Ben Nielsen

        Agreed.

      • Ben Nielsen

        Additionally, had Bowe not been re-signed last season then Donnie Avery would have been our “number one” receiver. Yikes.

        • jimfromkcj

          Do you feel that playing in a playoff game, in which we looked like rank amateurs is worth the situation we find ourselves in right now. This cap problem we are in is not something that is just going to go away. If these two clowns keep up trying to win enough games to keep the fans off their behinds we will be even in worse shape down the line. It will be very hard to replace the players we have who will be over the hill in the next couple of years. The only way that you can beat the Broncos is to do a better job of managing your cap and leap frogging by better draft picks and getting rid of under performers. You saw the Broncos letting Beadles go because he was the weakest link in their off line. Why did’t we get rid of Allen? Instead we let our 2 best get away, but hey we still got Bowe.

          • KCMikeG

            Our “clowns” took us from the cellar to the playoffs in their first season. Why, as a fan of the team, do you consider them “clowns” with the success they have experienced already? Were they perfect? No but nobody else is either in the real world. Sounds like you have a bad case of donkey envy since you can’t seem to quit slobbering all over about how wonderful everyone and everything is in dumber. If we were “rank amateurs” then what are the Colts since they gave up a huge lead and barely squeaked out a one point win in their own house while we played without Charles aka 30% of our offense? Does that make them just “amateurs” then? You sure seem to like to run down the team you are a fan of yet always have a good word for our opponents.

          • jimfromkcj

            When you blow a 28 point lead with less than a half to go, that is rank amateurism. No other way to call it. As for the Broncos , I also think there is a strong possibility that within 2 years we may very well be dwelling in the cellar again. The Raiders had the balls to gut their team and are now setting in a position to either get a top QB in the draft either this year or next and they have a huge cap to play with. The chargers have the QB and are rebuilding their team around him and if I remember right they beat us last year when went to the playoffs. They will not be standing still either. Our cap problem will not go away for a couple of more years unless the team unloads Hali and Flowers and gets Berry to take a cut in pay. Do you think they will bite the bullit and suffer the rath of the fans. I kinda doubt it.

          • KCMikeG

            My point was that us blowing the lead isn’t any worse than the Colts getting down that much in the first half in their own house with us not having Charles.
            Us in the cellar in 2 years? It must be pretty difficult for you to be a fan with such a negative outlook. We would have to go out of our way to be worse than the total cluster in chokeland. Reggie hasn’t done anything to make the faiders better in two seasons yet you see a bright future for them. Makes no sense after the success R& D achieved in their first year for you to be so down on our future. The dolts stumbled into the playoffs with the help of the refs against our back ups in their own house. Rivers will slide back into his declining performance now Wisenhutt has left him. The donkeys have no plan B if Peyton struggles like he did as the year came to a close or if he is injured and they are nothing without him. Be patient as there will likely be some contract restructuring yet to come.

          • jimfromkcj

            To start with, what restructuring can they do without making matters worse in the future? It isn’t going to get better until they bite the bullit and get rid of over paid and under performing players. And as for the Colts, could they just have been underestimating the Chiefs and decided to get serious in the second half. Either way, the game showed just how unprepared the Chiefs are from being able to move up and play the better teams. As for the Broncos, When Peyton leaves, he leaves 26 mill in cap space for the Broncos. I wouldn’t mind if the chiefs had that much cap when Smith leaves. So I don’t think that there will be as much fall off when Peyton hangs it up as you would like to dream.

          • KCMikeG

            You go out of your way to doubt and dismiss the team you claim to be a fan of yet go out of your way to ignore the faults and make excuses for our competitors. The Colts were “underestimating” the Chiefs which somehow them in a “better team ” class yet we were the “unprepared” team? That makes no sense at all. Why do you choose to make excuses for the Colts but put down the Chiefs? In case you have forgotten the game was decided by a single point with us driving for the win.

            Of course you don’t think there will be much fall off when Peyton leaves because why? Because they have some money to spend? That always works – Not. Their defense is terrible and their offense is completely built around Manning who makes the average talent they have look better than they really are. This point will be proven this year when Decker goes to NYJ and struggles.

            The only way they made the playoffs was outscoring the teams they played. So when PM goes down with a career ending injury or retires as his skills decline over the next two years then the fall off will be dramatic. Call it my “dream” if you like but it is much more enjoyable than the nightmare you continuously foresee.

    • Ben Nielsen

      RE: Bowe
      The issues here isn’t Bowe’s contract as much as it is the Chiefs put all of their eggs in a first round pick on a wide receiver to replace Bowe and it didn’t work out. Dorsey pretty much had to give Bowe whatever he wanted.

      • jimfromkcj

        I totally disagree. What you are suggesting is we let the inmates run the asylum. And as I have said many times failure doesn’t make you quit. I would use the Rd1 pick on another receiver and get rid of Bowe just as soon as possible. Why do you think we never gave a try to trade Hali, Flowers or Jackson for draft picks. All overpaid and underperformers. And we would not have had to get rid of Schwartz if Dorsey, who is supposed to be this guru of scouting, had inked him for 3 years at a time when the cap wasn’t an over riding problem. What we have in Dorsey is another Pioli learning the job on the fly and missing about as much as hitting.

  • sidibeke

    I’m not convinced Denver has made the better decisions. The last FA signing I was really excited for was Winston. Oops. And all of Den’s signings have injury histories. They have one or 2 seasons with Manning left. Going all out in FA makes sense, but it’s no guarantee for success.

    • jimfromkcj

      Sidibeke, You should check the way those contracts that Elway made are structured. They are front loaded, so if they have to get rid of them, there won’t be a problem cap wise. Bowes contract is so structured that we can’t get rid of him without taking a terrible cap hit. I know the haters on here like to prove their fandom with hating on Elway. But he has built a team that has possibly the best QB who ever played the game and is 26 mill against the cap and still had 27 mill under the cap to our 10 or 12. why not just admit it, Elway was a QB who beat us pretty regularly when playing and beating the crap out of us as a GM. The guy is just flat smart.

      • KCMikeG

        So flat out smart he was humiliated on the biggest stage ever.There are NO guarantees he can get another season like 2013 out of Manning at $58M spent or that the money he threw at FA’s will pay off with Ware & Sanders having injury concerns. Dead money 2014 of $15 between their top three newly signed FA’s and $22M on Manning. He just lost his #2 WR and #1 RB and two OL and is losing last years best pass rusher to FA. Flat out smart. No hate just the truth. Beating the crap out of us is overstated and premature.

      • sidibeke

        If I were a Den fan, I’d be stoked with the way Elway has handled the offseason. He’ doing exactly what he ought to with a QB at the end of his career. That said, FA’s don’t always (and often it seems) pan out the way one hopes.

  • Stan Colbert

    Here is a different take; I am disappointed by loosing both Schwartz & Asamoah because continuity & physicality up front is so important! However, isn’t Houston FA next year? The conditions that caused our FA to flee this year will exist next year. What makes anyone think we can sign next year’s class!

    • sidibeke

      We will have the $ to do so. One of the reasons to not sign contracts now that will hurt us next year.

      • Stan Colbert

        I don’t believe our financial state is the only factor. Let’s say they think Denver has a better chance to go to Super Bowl! Maybe, the beach is where they want to spend the day off…

        • Ben Nielsen

          That’s why franchise and transition tags exist. Houston is going to get one of those tags if the Chiefs and Houston cannot come to an agreement.

          • Stan Colbert

            I wasn’t thinking of those, obviously! I sure hate losing our good players!

          • Ben Nielsen

            Definitely agree it is hard seeing players go. Especially when you’ve already invested so much into them.

          • jimfromkcj

            We franchised Albert and got one more year out of him so Fisher could have a year to develop. Whether it worked out is still not a sure thing. So why didn’t they franchise Bowe instead of giving him a contract with a ton of dead money and no incentive to get rid of him if he regresses this year and screwed our cap up big time. Another thing that disturbs me is the whole thing with Sanders. Could that be a ruse to gather sympathy for Dorsey and the Chiefs and get people to thinking about the Poor me syndrome that so many Chief’s fans seem to have instead of the mess Dorsey has made with manageing the cap and losing the core of his off line and trying to fill the spots with no name players who have not been good enough for their pryor teams to want to keep them. Believe me if their teams thought they were good they would have signed them for what the Chief’s paid. I can’t see where any of the FA’s coming to KC was a cap casuality. They were cast offs.

        • sidibeke

          True enough, but if your team is making the playoffs and moving in the right direction, I would think Houston would want to stick around and be part of the ride.

          • Stan Colbert

            I agree. Hopefully we will continue to build and develop our team so players and agents turn down other teams to come to KC! That would be great!

  • sidibeke

    I would have liked it if, and thought KC would have signed either Asamoah or Schwartz. Otherwise, I think we let walk what needed to walk.

  • Canad-Ian

    There’s a reason the games are played. Denver has an unreal team going into the year, but how sweet would it be to watch them lose in the playoffs? Unless the NFL decides to skip the season and present them with the trophy I’ll be cheering for them to lose every week.

  • Josh Landers

    It seems that the only people that have a problem with any of these moves is people who are still haunted by the memories of the pioli era. Let me break it down for you.

    Asamoah: solid lineman. Replaceable? Yes. Maybe by someone who is already on the roster.

    Albert: same.

    DMC: fan favorite. Average slot receiver. Good return man. Replaceable? Yes. Can we find more production for less than 4 mil a year? Absolutely.

    T-jax: replaced by a better player for less money.

    Schwartz: I was really sad to see him go. I thought he was easily our best lineman last year. That one stung but we’ll recover.

    Don’t forget that our second stringers were one mr. Irrelevant missed fg away from beating San Diego in week 17. In 2 years we will save a healthy chunk of money by cutting bowe and chances are he will take a healthy paycut to remain with the team. Or he will be replaced by someone we draft this year or next. His contract is not an issue. No one thought we would make the playoffs last year. No one believes we will win the sb this year. I’m totally ok with getting the pieces in place to win 2 sb’s in a couple of years. It certainly beats winning one sb over 40 years ago. Have some patience. You see the result of Dorsey’s staff working hard last year. What makes you think this year will be different? There’s a good chance well have a worse record this year than we did last year as we face a much tougher schedule. I’m ok with that too. I’m convinced that Dorsey and co will put a better 22 on the field than last years 22. GO CHIEFS!!!

  • Daniel Mayfield

    Some fans need to understand that the team has to have $$$$$. And some players want, and demand, more then what they r worth. I hate to see some players go but sometimes it’s better for the team/franchise if they go. IMO, Hunter spent to much $ on Colquitt…or however u spell his name, and lost quite a bit in the cap space. Blame a lot of it on Pioli too. He spent a lot of $$ where he didn’t need to.