Andy Reid’s Responsible For The Chiefs’ Second Loss

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Let me say this right up front (in case the title of the article was unclear): Andy Reid is responsible the Kansas City Chiefs’ second loss of the season. I haven’t turned on the guy. He’s still a great head coach who has engineered the greatest year-over-year turnaround in franchise history. I’m convinced he should have a comfortable lead in the race for the Associated Press’ Coach of the Year Award. At the end of the day, he’s still a fallible head coach like every other, and his fourth quarter decisions cost the Chiefs a game on Sunday.

You chastise those you love, right? I could go into a deeply philosophical diatribe about how justice is indispensable to love, but I’ll spare you such an amibitious rant. I only dabble in philosophy on the weekends. I won’t wax philosophical, but I will tell you why I think the Walrus should fall on the sword.

Losses are always comprised of multiple missed opportunities. Clearly the Chiefs’ defense had no answers for Phillip Rivers on Sunday afternoon. They surrendered 41 points in the game. Rivers completed 27 of 39 passes for 392 yards and 3 touchdowns. There’s no question that the defense’s worst performance of the season contributed to the loss. Miscues pile up as a game wears on, but that’s precisely why late-game decisions are so important.

With 82 seconds left in regulation, there’s little time available to overcome an error in judgment. When Kansas City lined up to kick the ball back to the Chargers, you just knew they were in trouble. Alex Smith and the Chiefs’ offense had just scored the go-ahead touchdown (giving the Chiefs a slim 4-point lead). That drive featured five straight pass plays. The Chiefs had 1st-and-goal from the 5-yard line and never bothered to run the football.

To make matters worse, after the 11-yard completion to McCluster moved the Chiefs into a goal-to-go situation, Reid called a inexplicable timeout with 15 seconds left on the play clock. Here’s what he had to say about the timeout:

I was just calming the storm and making sure … we needed a touchdown at that point … that we had the right things in.

Doesn’t it make you wonder if a timeout would’ve even have been necessary with a run play called? Kansas City had a fresh set of downs from the Chargers’ 5-yard line, but never attempted to run. The very next play was a 5-yard touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe. After the kick, that left the Chargers with 1:22 and two timeouts.

You can’t pin this loss on Reid, the defense surrendered 41 points.

I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard this over the past two days. No reasonable person, with two wits about them, can gloss over Kansas City’s putrid defensive performance on Sunday. That’s precisely why I’m holding Reid responsible. He saw the defense struggle to defend San Diego throughout the day. He knew his top two passrushers had been sidelined with injuries. Why would he put the game back into their hands? Everyone knew the offense would eventually have to win a game. This was their opportunity to do so, but it was stolen from them by their head coach.

One play following the two-minute warning, if Reid was set on taking a timeout, he should’ve waited another 14 seconds to do it. He called the timeout with 15 seconds left on the playclock. He could’ve taken the game clock all the way down to 1:14. Had the Chiefs run the football once, San Diego is either forced to burn one of their final two timeouts or allow the clock to run down another 40 seconds. Had they run twice, San Diego is either forced to burn a timeout (perhaps their last) or allow the clock to run down 40 seconds. Either way, you’re chewing up valuable time in regulation and/or forcing the Chargers to burn timeouts. Mind you, Kansas City still had two timeouts they could’ve used for clock stoppages.

Okay wiseguy, suppose the Chiefs had run the football and failed to score a touchdown?

This is another question I’ve been asked since late Sunday afternoon. I’m not sure why running the football in that goal-to-go situation would’ve been Reid conceding points. Kansas City averaged 6.3 yards per carry on Sunday. The offensive line was winning the battle upfront. Is it possible that they might’ve gotten the push necessary to score the same six points on the ground? Unfortunately, we’ll never know. The Chiefs’ passing game has been anything but automatic this season. There was just as much risk involved with throwing the football. Pass plays might even be riskier in that situation because incompletions stop the clock.

It’s entirely possible that the Chiefs might’ve failed to score the go-ahead touchdown had they run twice and thrown on third down. Reid would’ve been forced to kick a field goal and send the game to overtime. There, it’s also possible the Chargers win the toss, score a touchdown on their first offensive possession, and never allow the Chiefs’ offense back on the field. I’m certain there would’ve been critics of that decision as well. Thing is, Reid should never make such a decision based on what fans think. There’s a group of people ready to question any decision he could possibly make in that spot.

What he should’ve done was follow conventional wisdom and practices in that scenario. Most NFL head coaches would’ve forced San Diego to either burn those timeouts or forfeit time on the game clock. That’s standard operating procedure in this league. Sure, there are coaches who go against the grain, but more often than not, that’s what happens.

The sky hasn’t fallen. I’m not relinquishing my spot on the bandwagon. With Denver’s loss to New England in the SNF game, the furniture where it was two weeks ago. To some extent, the road to winning the AFC West still goes through Arrowhead Stadium. A win this Sunday restores Kansas City’s one-game lead over Denver (and keeps them at the front of the line for home-field advantage in the postseason tournament).

Those truths don’t change the fact that Big Red allowed one to get away with poor game/clock management. This particular criticism shouldn’t surprise anyone. It’s not even tough to come to grips with. It’s followed Reid throughout his career.  Hopefully, that will be the last such error we see, in a crucial game situation, the rest of 2013. The final five games of the season figure to be close. The Chiefs simply can’t afford these kinds of fourth quarter gaffes going forward.

Am I being unreasonable to pin this loss on the head coach? Is it ever acceptable to hang a loss on any one person? Was the defense the real culprit in Sunday’s loss? I’d love to hear your thoughts. Use the comment section below to weigh in. As always, we appreciate your readership and support.

Until next time, Addicts!





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  • Jordan

    At first thought I was ready to raise hell over the brash title and opening statements, however after “reiding” this piece I have to agree with you Reach. Although I still believe the blame has to fall on the defense more so than Reid I had previously attributed the timeout as a way to calm emotion let everyone collect themselves and make the play needed to be made. The arguments you’ve laid out here do make me wonder( more than I already have) what could’ve been. We only lost by 24 seconds one running play possibly eliminates that entire span and allows the defense to sit further back then they were. Sean smiths weak coverage was inexcusable especially considering what was on the line. Great article Reach!

  • Philip Marquez

    My thoughts exactly…

  • Jared Watson

    Nice write up Stacy and I fully agree with the poor clock management. Perhaps a bit of a stretch to consider but if it came down to it and we couldn’t punch the ball into the end zone by running then I may have been fine tying the game up with a fg with virtually no time left and forcing OT, considering how swiftly Rivers was moving the team down the field. At least we could have gotten the ball first in OT instead of giving Rivers the final shot in regulation. But like you said, best case scenario would have been run the clock and still get the TD. I was not feeling easy whatsoever giving the ball back with that much time left on the clock. Kendrick’s missed INT on that final drive could have ended it. Talk about a missed opportunity falling into your lap.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      It’s okay to make the right decision and fail. Such is life in the NFL. When you make the wrong decision and fail, you have to own that. I’m not ready to burn him at the stake. It’s the first time such a mistake has cost us a game, but there’s just no way around that fact. There’s no guarantee we score with the run. Just as there was no guarantee that Smith wouldn’t throw a pick on one of those five pass plays. There’s risk involved in every choice. You have to assess the outcomes associated with each risk though. Running the ball shrinks the risk that Rivers throws a late touchdown to win. No doubt about that.

  • Norman Gunn

    Is this where we start the fire Andy bandwagon? I am seeing way too man people angry about this loss. We are 9-2 and only because Reid coached us into 8 of those close fourth quarter wins. Yes you coach for the best chance to win but if someone gives you a touchdown you take it. Our last two games (Buff/Broncs) we could not get a touchdown from the goal line. And the last 9 out of 10 games our defense has found ways to win games a lot closer then 7 points. He stuck to the winning formula and the Chargers needed a phenomenal play and shitty defense by Demps/Smith.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Yes. I’m calling for Dorsey to fire the guy I believe to be the NFL’s Coach of the Year. The fact that we’ve won 9 games doesn’t mean he’s incapable of making a really bad decision. It’s precisely because Reid’s been so successful in the NFL that he shouldn’t be infantilized and insulated from criticism.

      You can’t coach the current game based on how units have played in weeks past. On Sunday his defense didn’t have it. They were also reeling from having lost the best passrushing tandem in the NFL! That’s where you have to say, “Today I can’t lean on my defense to win.”

      • Norman Gunn

        I didn’t mean you want to get the band wagon going. But the intensity of the negative emotions looming around seems that way. I don’t think it is fair to call him coach of the year one paragraph then blame him for the lost in another. It feeds into the negative energy of a fantastic season.

        Me and mostly everyone believe this defensive had a stop in them. This really sucks because when people get pissed someone has to go down for the loss. And everyone is putting in on Reid. We were due for this kind of a loss. Reid coached his ass off in the game just like the other 9 wins.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Tell me why those two things are logically incompatible. Why is his being COTY at odds with him being fallible? What’s the explicit/implicit contradiction in those two things?

          Why would the defense, after 58 minutes, suddenly be capable of standing up to a passing game they’d been abused by all day on Sunday. The offense was our strength on Sunday. Let that unit close it out!
          Yes, someone is always held accountable for losses. That’s the nature of the business. Losses are an expected part of the sport, but that hardly means we can’t point out to bad decisions that lead to losses.

          If Reid makes the right decision and the Chiefs lose anyway, I would’ve written a completely different article. He made a mistake. It’s okay, all is not lost, but there’s no denying that me made the wrong decision.

          Teams do lose games they should win. Every single week in the NFL.
          So the story doesn’t end here. The Chiefs still have a great chance to do everything they desire to do in the 2013 season.

        • Darkwolf1414

          At no time did I believe the defense had a stop in them after Bowe’s TD. I was yelling, “What the hell are you doing!?” I knew the time left on the clock was too much to give Rivers, given how the D had played all day.

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            Same here. It was (I’m pretty sure) the only time I’ve been infuriated by a Chiefs touchdown.

      • DTVTechGuy

        SS… I think Sutton shares some blame as well.

        Who calls a man press coverage with a TD being the only thing that beats you.

        I think is the coaching STAFF’s worst game of the season.

        Not just AR.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Reid outranks him. It was his call. That defense never should’ve seen the field again except in Overtime.

    • KCMikeG

      Great point supporting the potential for us to fail to score in that position.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Surely there was just as much potential for us to fail with the pass, right?

        • KCMikeG

          Yes. We have struggled to score TD’s in that area all year so that’s why I’m not so down on Reid for his decisions.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            You have to adjust to how your team plays within a game. On Sunday, the defense was a liability and the run game was a strength. He ignored those two truths. If he’d conducted himself according to what he saw in the first 58 minutes of Sunday’s game, we’d probably have a different outcome. All I’m saying.

          • KCMikeG

            I’m not completely disagreeing with you but it is a pretty narrow field of vision, let alone being total hindsight laced with lots of IF’s, to focus the blame of the loss on Reid’s decision alone. Even if we had run the ball a couple times and SD burned their time outs there is no guarantee that they don’t march down the field and still win. They left 24 seconds on the clock that they didn’t need as it was. A couple running plays would not have taken away all or left them w/o enough time to score. Bottom line is we needed a TD to win and we got it. You have to be able to count on your entire team to do their job. As I have pointed out the offense had their fault also when we got the ball back. This was a team loss but ultimately I believe the defense bares more responsibility. They had a pick in their hands they dropped, they left Woodhead unattended twice along the sideline for 33 yards and got beat in the end zone by a ST’s WR. That’s where I lay the majority of the blame.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            The scoring drive took 58 seconds. What are the odds that they would’ve had that much time for a drive sans the Reid timeout and being forced to either call both of their own or lose time on the clock? How much time do you think they might’ve had under that scenario?

            Furthermore, the fact that it comes with risks isn’t a reason to avoid making the decision. He accepted the risks associated with throwing the football AND with putting the defense back on the field. Are you denying there aren’t risks associated with those two things?

            If my defense isn’t playing well and my offense has been my strength throughout the game, I’d take the offensive risks EVERYTIME. The same would be true if the tables were turned.

          • Frank

            Actually a couple of running plays would have taken it away. All of it.

          • KCMikeG

            Not if they used their two time outs.

          • Frank

            I wasn’t adding in other factors. You said “a couple running plays would not have taken away all or left them w/o enough time to score”. That isn’t true. It would run out the clock. If we want to add in timeouts, then it still wouldn’t be true based on the second part of your statement. The two timeouts would be used and would not be available in their drive (which they used both). My point isn’t whether it would have any impact on who won, just that two running plays and using all the play clock available would have run out the game clock. KC could also have lost doig that ( if they didn’t score on the second or later play). We can go back and forth ad naseum, it also wouldn’t be over if the D continued to commit penalties giving the SD O more chances.

  • toperspective

    Good write-up. I assumed that when he took that timeout he was doing it so he could run the ball. Reid is a terrific coach but he’s always had clock management issues.

  • JDInOregon

    And if someone loses a fumble or a ball is tipped on third down and picked off everyone is blaming Reid. That’s why he gets paid to be the head coach.

    This “bad clock management” meme doesn’t wash with me, I’m sure Reid can read the giant numerals on the clock at Arrowhead. I haven’t noticed any other example of “bad clock management” by Reid this season, and I’ve watched or listened to virtually every snap.

    It was a calculated risk, pure and simple.

    Reid chose to take an easy touchdown (I think it was first down) and the lead and ask his defense to step up under extreme adversity. It didn’t work, and I would wager Reid has contemplated what he did and put it in the memory bank, and moved completely on.

    Every game has its own dynamic, and that game was a strange one. Sometimes when you take a calculated risk you lose, and by the same token running the clock down presents its own set of risks, which in the San Diego game included not only sacks or turnovers, but losing on San Diego’s first possession of overtime should a KC field goal tie the game.

    Implicit in this discussion has been an assumption that San Diego would score a touchdown no matter what, so a field goal by KC at the end of regulation under this scenario is virtually conceding the game. Almost the only way KC wins in overtime (under this assumption) is by scoring a touchdown on the first possession.

    Those were the risks versus rewards, and I still don’t think it was the terrible decision some people are making it out to be.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      So that I’m clear, there are no risks associated with five straight pass plays?

      If you’re in denial about his issues with clock/game management, you’re at odds with history. This is something Reid has ALWAYS been criticized for.

      One need not assume San Diego score a touchdown automatically to recognize the risk of putting the ball back in their hands. Your defense had struggled all day and the best two players you have to aid you in quelling such a drive weren’t even on the field. How is that a “calculated” risk?

      There are all kinds of other assumptions flying around.
      Like the one that suggests we would’ve been conceding points to run the ball.
      Or the one that we wouldn’t have been able to convert the touchdown with one play to throw (third down).

      Mind you, we’d already scored to goal-to-go touchdowns on the ground.
      And… It only took one pass to score on the throw to Bowe.

      • Jim Harper

        You were making some valid points but when you start using words like “always” you lose credibility. When any team is playing with under 2 minutes to play and need a score to win they are trying to score on every play. You have to do that otherwise you end up with maybe one opportunity to score which is not very smart. With every missed opportunity your odds of success go down. My guess is he figured the Chargers were expecting to see Charles try to run it in. Reid called a play they were not expecting and even then it took a tremendous throw by Smith and an even better catch by Bowe. You don’t take a knee on the 5 yard line when you need a score to win just to use up clock. I can’t blame Reid for this loss. I blame the fact that Rivers had an unbelievable hot hand that day and threw a perfect ball that Smith missed batting away by no more than a couple of inches and was caught by a guy who had only caught 2 passes all year. Stacy, sometimes shit just happens and laying blame is just not very productive.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Swap the word “always” out and my point remains. This is a criticism that has followed him throughout his career.

          How often do you see teams controlling the clock in situations like these? Be honest. It’s a conventional practice in this league.

          Who said anything about taking a knee? I called for run plays. Again, how is that conceding points? We scored TWO touchdowns on Sunday, with the run, in goal-to-go situations. Why is it unreasonable to think we could’ve done that a third time?
          Rivers did have a hot hand. That’s exactly why putting the ball back into that hot hand was a bad decision.

          There are always things that happen that are outside of a team’s control. Reid had control of the situation. Whether or not you think the decision was wise, it’s clear that he had the option to make that late-game possession the last in regulation.

          It’s not my job to produce anything as the writer of an opinionated blog column. It’s my job to analyze. I’ve done that. Agree or disagree, but that’s what I’m here to do.
          Someone needs to take the blame. Whether it’s Reid alone or the entire team. These are professional athletes and coaches. Someone is always at fault. That’s the nature of the business.

          • Jim Harper

            Well if that is the case you can put me in the disagree column. Someone is not “always” at fault. By the way I know you did not say to take a knee. But the only way your argument of using up clock makes any sense is if you have no gain on the run play. What would you have them do? Give the ball to Jamaal and then have him sit down on the one so he does not score? That is just absurd. No teams do that. They try to score on every play they attempt. If Jamaal runs it in on the first play they run then the same situation exists, because because the clock stops the moment he scores, and you have the same exact situation. The only mistake I thought Reid made was calling the last timeout because some clock could have been run down about another 14 seconds if memory serves. If someone must assume blame then I think it falls on Sutton for allowing Woodhead to eat up valuable real estate on back to back screen plays. Those two plays accounted for almost 40 yards of field position. The defense lost this game. I understand that the loss of Hali & Houston hurt, but you have to make adjustments and attack Rivers from other directions. It is the next man up philosophy. It was what Bellichick did and what Sutton did not do. If you must blame someone then at least blame the right guy.

          • calciomoti

            I’m not taking any sides here, I do believe Reid should have ran down the play clock before calling the timeout at least.

            I’m recalling a play with Ahmad Bradshaw trying actually to not score the go ahead TD so fast but his momentum carried him into the end zone…any else recall this game?

          • Jim Harper

            I recall the play but do not remember the circumstances.

        • Danny W

          Yeah you can’t really lay a blame down for a tornado, blizzard or hurricane. For a football game though you absolutely can hold someone or everyone accountable.

  • Mark Bustamante

    Stacy YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I was yelling at my tv when Andy called the time out. And I questioned why the Chiefs were not running the ball to use the clock. Hopefully he won’t make that mistake again.

  • Jane Okkinga

    I was sitting watching with a friend and after we scored the touchdown I actually turned and said I think we’re going to lose this game…….with the time left, the QB being Rivers and our D playing as it did ………I could smell it happening. I don’t understand how any NFL coach would not run the clock down – at least those 14secs he was given.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I must’ve asked what he was doing 10 times on that drive.
      To the open air (I watched the game alone). It was maddening to watch.

      • Darkwolf1414

        I agree with you both. I wasn’t so worried with the passing to get down to the goal to go situation. Once they got there, however, I couldn’t believe they went for the TD pass.

  • Michael Shaw

    I wondered about the time out and then a pass play with virtually no time off the clock as well. But hindsight is always 20/20 and who knows, maybe he thought the D would stiffen more than they had the whole game. It’s over and we need to concentrate on how we can keep Denver from scoring 60 points this week!!!!!

  • Scott

    Agreed, as soon as the timeout was called I felt we would not hold them with that much time left. He is a great coach and deserves all the credit for this great season but he made the wrong call on this one. Hopefully next time he will put the ball in the hands of the best player on our team and RUN THE BALL.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Belichick has three Super Bowl rings.
      Remember the call to go for it on fourth down in their game with the Colts? Yeah, that was dumb. No coach is immune to bad decisions. No human being, in any line of work, is immune. It happens.

    • DelsinRowe

      He absolutely refuses to run the ball. He was like that in Philly. It’s almost like he hates the ground game. Go ask any Eagles fan how it feels.

  • Danny W

    I like it and can get behind it all the way. Heres to seeing a few more stunts and design blitzes from Sutton in the next game against the broncos. I know the guy averaged 2.1 seconds per throw but we have to disrupt him some how.

    • Darkwolf1414

      You just have a thing against Kendrick Lewis. You’re always harping on him being the weak link in the defense. There have been quite a few missed INTs by other players, too. Berry and DJ have both dropped INTs. It happens. I’ll agree that Kendrick has taken some bad angles in coverages but he’s played pretty stinking well this season. Just ask the other Chiefs defenders.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        It’s been an epidemic. Johnson, Lewis, Demps, Berry… They need to have a practice every week where defensive players do nothing but catch balls off of the Juggs.

      • Danny W

        I don’t hate Lewis. I really don’t but he did have it right in his mitts on the final drive. Good players make that play. Again if Reid calls the time out later, maybe runs once, we may get the W. If Berry doesn’t get the phony pass interference call we might get the W, if Smith is one second faster we might get the W, but with out a doubt, if Lewis catches the ball he gets in his hands on the final drive, we win the game with out a doubt.

  • Robbie C Robinson

    This is the dumbest article I ever read. So your blaming Andy Ried because that so called great defense couldn’t make a stop?.. That’s insane. Great defenses make stops, kc didn’t. Kc allowed rivers to march Downfield in a minute and 24 seconds, and that’s on Andy??… Easier you actually are making excuses for that overrated defense or that kc defense isn’t that good.. Just sayin.. Make a dam stop!

    • Stacy D. Smith

      It’s fun to disagree, but be sure you understand the point of the article first. If you took “Reid’s responsible for the defense’s failure to make a stop” away from the article, you either didn’t read it in its entirety or didn’t understand it. You might wanna re-read it or be more careful about throwing words like “dumb” around.

  • tm1946

    Did it every occur to anyone the better team won last Sunday?
    This is Reid’s first Chiefs team. Hope no one delusional enough to think this is a superbowl level team, yet?

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I don’t think the Chargers are a better team for a second. Not that they need to be. Inferior teams win games every week. I’m not sure what the Chiefs’ Super Bowl legitimacy has to do with this particular issue.

    • Frank

      It occurred. They are not the better team.

  • KCMikeG

    “Thing is, Reid should never make such a decision based on what fans think. There’s a group of people ready to question any decision he could possibly make in that spot.”

    I honestly don’t believe Reid makes any decision based on what the fans think. And wouldn’t you be in that group of ready questioners?

    Don’t get me wrong Stacy – I would have loved to see us run the ball 2-3 times and have Jamaal score his 3rd TD (he’s my FF RB in the league you don’t get to beat me twice! That one pointer still hurts). But as you mentioned there is risk in not scoring sooner. A sack or an incomplete pass and maybe you don’t score a TD but have a chance at a tie or worse a fumble and you don’t score at all. Even if you do score SD still has most of the time on the clock anyway by using their time outs. Yes they used them on their winning drive but they also left 24 seconds on the clock for us. Without their time outs they still could have done what they did and left no time for our pathetic last shot.

    Speaking of that I would hang some blame on Pederson too. All we needed was a FG – 30 to 40 yards. Yet the first play called is a short pass in the middle of the field so we have to use our last time out immediately. Why? We had 20 seconds and a time out and if we had thrown short out routes or even went mid-deep down the sidelines it is likely we could have stopped the clock or even drawn a penalty and then we could have gone down the middle of the field using our last time out to set up for the tying FG.

    I would also share some blame with Sutton for leaving Woodhead WIDE open along the sideline not once but twice – back to back plays and Sean Smith for getting beat deep by a nobody ST WR while Demps showed up late AGAIN – a reoccurring event with him and Lewis this year. I would also like to understand where our LB’s were as receiver time and again ran routes across the field completely unattended while our ex-rookie of the year Coop ran yards behind.
    Bottom line is hindsight is 20/20 and hanging it on Reid is hard for me. I agree that the sky isn’t falling. It is sad how some are so quick to spend their time panicking. We are watching a young team rise from the ashes of the worst to being a contender. Fans need to learn to enjoy the success by being more reasonable in their expectations. Do I want them to win every game – Absolutely! Will they – way more than likely not. So we have lost by 10 to the most prolific offense in NFL history in their house and lost a squealer shoot out at ours. Other than that we were the only remaining undefeated team for 4 weeks, we are tied for first in our division and have the donkeys in our house. Even if we lost out the entire season, which we won’t you chicken littles out there, we would still be 9-7 and still a playoff team which was the best case scenario for many before the season started. Have faith and enjoy the ride my fellow fans as we have a very bright future ahead thanks to Reid & Dorsey.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      You cropped that train of thought in a weird place. I was simply responding to the point that had he made a different decision and failed, it’s correct to assume a different contingent would’ve criticized him. That’s why the left and right sides of the issue are ultimately irrelevant. Follow the lead of other NFL coaches in that situation. Playing ball control there is tried and true. It’s not failproof, but much more often than not, it works.

      I’m baffled at how people are only interested in talking about the risks associated with running the football. He could’ve been sacked on the pass play to Bowe. He could’ve thrown the ball three inches more to the right and been picked off. There’s risk associated with ANYTHING he could’ve done. You can’t eliminate risks in the NFL. What you can do is assess the outcome of those risks. In my estimation, what Reid did was riskier than running the football and shrinking Sandy’s options.

      One can enjoy the ride and still notice that there’s a slight tick in the engine.

  • DelsinRowe

    As an Eagles fan let me tell you this right now. Get used to the weird gameday decisions. In his 14 years in Philly he time after time after time made questionable decisions especially in the 2nd half. There was rarely any halftime adjustments. You talk about the four straight passes from the 5 yard line? Get used to it. He once got McNabb sacked 12 times because despite the RB Buckhalter getting over 5 yards a carry, he still dropped Mcnabb back over and over. He also did the same thing in Jacksonville in torrential rain. We lost both games, by the way. He is absolutely infamous for his stubborn pass/run ratio. We used to rip our hair out at how he would refuse to give Westbrook the ball.

    He’s also infamous for wasting and blowing timeouts. Does he rarely have all 3 at the end of a half or game? I haven’t watched a lot this year but it was a miracle if we ever had all of our timeouts. They would get burned within minutes of the game starting at times.

    I don’t mean to bust the guy’s chops. I’m just talking from experience. He also can’t draft. He drafted bust after bust after bust for us, especially in the 1st round. The last impact player he drafted on defense was Trent Cole in 2005 in the 5th round. And I’m not exaggerating. Go look.

    This is also the same guy who brought Howard Mudd in and decided on using the Wide-9 before he even hired a defensive coordinator. (The previous one was fired by Reid) Then gave the DC job to the OLine coach. Yes, our offensive line coach became our DC. And yes, it turned out to be as bad as it sounds.

    I know everybody is high on the guy right now and 9-2 is great. he has a way of getting the most out of players. But what you need to understand about Reid is he’s the kind of coach who will eek out wins in the regular season and as soon as he faces a good opposing coach in the playoffs he’ll lose. Look at how many NFCCGs he took us to in the early 2000′s and lost. And how lost he looked at the end of SB 39.

    Just telling you guys, don’t let this hot start fool you. He was fired for a reason in Philly and it was a LONG TIME COMING.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      So I’m not saying anything that hasn’t already been said about Reid?

      • DelsinRowe

        You’re not saying anything that hasn’t been said about Reid 1000 times.

  • redchiefs

    I’m not mad at Reid, BUT he’s been a coach in the NFL since 1999, and IF he has to call a time out that is OK, BUT WHY WOULD YOU CALL IT WITH 18 or so seconds on the play clock? C’MON MAN, let the play clock run to 1 second THEN call that timeout.

    • Stacy D. Smith



    I cannot disagree with anything you have said. This loss absolutely falls at the feet of Andy Reid. That timeout was as bad a call as I have seen in the NFL that I can remember. Say what you want about the defense being poleaxed, Reid had to know that if he gives Rivers the ball with that much time on the clock, he can kiss this game goodbye. As a diehard Chiefs fan since they were the Chiefs, I hope I am not looking back on this game in six weeks and thinking, “coulda, woulda shoulda”. Andy, you pissed in your mess kit.

  • dumb as a post

    sorry i don’t understand a run that is averaging 6 per carry is should score anyway and you still loose. a completed pass runs the clock same as a run. or are you suggesting we should have taken knee for two plays because you can score at will.

    • Jim Harper


    • NicholasAlanClayton

      The defense probably would have stacked it against the run, and hell, you could even tell the ball carrier to go down at the one to run off more clock. Reid’s players have done that before —

  • Dennis Harris

    I wrote basically the exact response on Facebook Sunday afternoon. If we are going anywhere in the post season our coaching staff will have to be smarter than this. One of Andy’s assistant coaches or coordinators should have brought this to his attention. Teamwork!

  • Dennis Harris

    I’m beginning to think Andy Reid is overrated. I think Andy’s coaches and the general manager hired by Clark Hunt have more to do with the Chiefs success than Andy

  • Dennis Harris

    Three things are sure from Sunday’s game against San Diego: 1) Our defense is not near as good without our two pro bowl pass rushers on the field 2) Our offense scored more points than they normally do because the SD defense is not very good and their secondary is horrendous ( four pass interference calls on one drive in second half). 3) Andy Reid’s poor clock management at the end of the game cost us the game. If you can’t see that then you don’t know what your’e talking about.

  • calciomoti

    Amen! Been saying this all week…just not as ma y words. Still love Reid Coach of the Year!