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Chiefs Play It Safe, Fall To Broncos 27-17


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The Chiefs perfect season is no more. The most anticipated game of the NFL season ended up being a frustrating one for KC fans as penalties and an overall “play it safe” approach cost the Chiefs a chance at beating Peyton Manning and the Broncos on the road.

The Chiefs were basically the same team that they’ve been all season. Their defense played well overall against the best offense in the NFL, and their offense was (once again) mediocre. I don’t know that this game “exposed” the Chiefs as many doubters in the national media predicted, and I certainly don’t think KC fans should walk away from this game thinking that the Chiefs can’t hang with Denver in Arrowhead in two weeks.

What we did learn about the Chiefs is that it appears that they won’t deviate from their regular game plan, ever. The Chiefs were basically playing with house money in this game. They were playing on the road with a one game lead on a team that most people thought was better than them. They were playing a team that scores a lot of points. However, the Chiefs played it safe at every turn instead of taking risks and trying to make something happen. They kicked a field goal on 4th and goal from the one yard line when they were down in the first half. They punted the ball at midfield in the 4th quarter while down 14 points to the best regular season QB in NFL history. Finally, they basically played it safe defensively all night by only rushing their front four on the majority of defensive plays (more on that in a minute).

The other thing that helped define this game was the way it was officiated. I’m not going to go down the road that some Chiefs fans have and say that the game was officiated unfairly or one-sided. However, the way that the officials called the game was not defensive friendly. Since this was a battle of a high powered offense against an elite defense that favored the offensive team, and that was Denver. It became clear early on that the refs weren’t going to allow the DBs to be very physical with the WRs. Most of the calls fit the NFL rules, but in other games you see a lot of those plays not get called. The Chiefs were left with the lose/lose scenario of letting the Denver WRs run free and having Manning pick them apart, or jamming them at the line and risking a penalty.

With the DBs forced to lay off the WRs it allowed Manning to get the ball out quick and negate the front four pass rush of KC. When Manning is getting the ball out that fast, there is almost no way for an edge rusher to get there in time. That is why I was hoping that in the 2nd half Bob Sutton would dial up more blitzes. Yes, that can be risky against Peyton Manning, but when you’re already losing and the refs aren’t letting your DBs knock the WRs off their routes you have to do SOMETHING to knock Manning out of his rhythm. The Chiefs just didn’t do it.

Consequently, the Broncos were able to put up enough points to get the job done.

The other HUGE turning point in this game was the Anthony Sherman fumble that came right after the Chiefs had forced a turnover deep in Denver’s territory. Not capitalizing on that mistake AND then giving up a big play that eventually lead to a Denver TD could have possibly been a 14 point swing in Denver’s favor. The Chiefs were playing catch up the rest of the night and Alex Smith and the Chiefs offense just weren’t up to the task.

Game over.

The bright side is that KC still held the Broncos to their lowest point total of the year and there is still reason to believe that in Arrowhead the Chiefs will be better able to rattle Manning with the home crowd on their side.

Although this was a frustrating game in a lot of ways for KC fans, I think that KC did at least prove that they aren’t “frauds”. They’re just a good football team that still has things it needs to improve on. Here’s to hoping they can do that over the next two weeks before they see this same team again.

As always, thanks for reading and GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    Gotta disagree with you here a bit, Lyle. I saw Smith take about 4-5 strikes down the field just in the first half. They HAD to because they were trailing, but I do think we saw a more vertical passing game tonight. Will it continue when they AREN’T trailing? Remains to be seen.

    • Lyle Graversen

      That’s fair, he did throw the ball down field more often, but like you said they didn’t have much choice. What I simply can’t understand is playing it safe while trailing in the second half, on the road, to a team as good as the Broncos. I can understand taking the FG in the first half (even though I would have gone for it 100%), but punting in the 4th at midfield when down 14 is ridiculous and for a team that has made GREAT halftime adjustments all season I thought their refusal to be more aggressive in the 2nd half on defense when it was clear that the refs were clamping down on the DBs was a huge mistake too.

      • Nick Danger

        They had to establish a running game, plus their receivers can’t catch the ball… A lot of drops te past few weeks. I bet Reid pays the receivers coach a visit. I think the refs were way too involved, but fair. There were some missed holding calls, but we were just unable to get to Manning. Blitz packages are risky because he gets the ball out so fast, there’s a mention of Manning being “blitz-proof” in ESPN mag about that. The game in KC in two weeks will tell us perhaps a lot more about this team than tonight’s did…

        • sidibeke

          That missed hold on Hali on a big pass play in the 1st half had me going nuts. OL had him around the neck. But yes, while I didn’t like many of the calls, the refs didn’t decide the game. The team that played better won.

          • Daniel Alvarado

            i agree…but a big play like that (sacking manning) that early in the game could of changed the tempo…maybe even the play calling

        • mnelson52

          I think the refs were fair in a since that they called it the same for both defenses but it took the game plan out for the best defense and allowed the best offense in the NFL to run free. That’s how they kept competing 2 second passes that gave the pass rush no chance. JMO

    • sidibeke

      I’m coming away from this game thinking the #1 need in the offseason is a #1 WR. I’ve not been a Bowe hater at all this or any season, generally happy with his effort most of the time. But (aside from the couple of half-assed routes I saw him run), we simply don’t have a WR that can consistently get open. Our best pass catchers are TEs and out of the backfield.

      • berttheclock

        Yes, we really need a wide out who can use his power to pull through being grabbed from behind and catch passes.

        • Jordan

          Or a receiver with true break away speed because bowe is slow McCluster is shifty but at his size who cares Jenkins is a bench warmer and Avery has a life long case of the dropsies

        • mnelson52

          I do believe our receivers would have looked good if they had been playing for Denver, because the D wasn’t allowed to interrupt their routes

      • Ed

        I agree totally. Same here. We need a WR that can separte and that catch the ball. Bowe is too slow and more of a # 2 reciever and Avery, o Avery if you could just have caughth that ball in the first qtr. Next year draft we need to draft a WR….and it can’t be another Silvester Morris

        • berttheclock

          Nor can it be a Jonathan Baldwin, either. Yesterday, he, finally, made it back onto the field for the Niners and went zero for three on targets. When, you consider the fact, the Niners really needed help on the wide out front, he never has been able to crack their lineup consistently. Really galls me to see the vast improvement of Torrey Smith with the Ravens, who went in the next round and is being paid far less than KC paid Baldwin.

          • mnelson52

            Baldwin was rated as a third round pick but I guess Pioli thought he would outsmart everybody and take him in the first round. Great move Pioli. NOT

        • sidibeke

          If Avery holds on to that, and he should have, that would have been a big play. Alas.

        • thabear04

          oh a Jonathan Baldwin

    • gjrchief

      I disagree with the assessment that they HAD to throw down field because they were down in the first half. The team in the lead at halftime does not win the game. The team in the lead when the game ends wins. The chiefs conservative, running attack, short passing game that won us 9 games had us putting up an average of 24 pts. By changing our offense and getting away from what we are best at we scored LESS points than our average. 4 or 5 deep shots down field that fall incomplete could have been carries for Jamaal. Carries that give him a chance to break one, forces Denver to stack the box , slows down the pass rush, wears down the d line, keeps Manning on the bench longer and increases the time of possession advantage. The Broncos were up 10… your brand of offense consistently puts 24 on the board… so why panic and try to be something you are not? Trust your defense to hold and put up your 24 pts your way… if Denver goes up by 24 pts than something drastic might need to be done. Never panic when your down a measly 10 pts that you have been able to score in every single game.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        You have to have a sense of urgency when you’re down two possessions. Subsequent scores decrease your margin for error offensively and forces you to press. If anything, this game out to prove that you can’t continue to rely solely on your defense to win games. Better teams will simply outlast you and put more points on the board. 17 points won’t be good enough to beat many of the teams on our remaining schedule. This has to change or we’ll be one and done in the postseason again.

        • micah stephenson

          I agree but with Alex Smith at QB our offense is it is wat it is, which ain’t much! Even if we put the 5 best olinemen in the nfl out there, our o ain’t gone b much better as long as we hav Alex.

          • PunjabiPete

            I’ve never heard you saying Alex Smith is not the best option for our team. I’m intrigued, please tell me more?

          • jimfromkcj

            Micah, Alex was my second choice last year. My first choice was Matt Moore and the reason was because he would have been cheaper and likely to take us as far as Alex. None of the QB’s including Geno or Manuel were not worth a 1st rd pick, At least I didn’t think so. Alex has done just what I thought could happen. He is good enough to get us to the playoffs, but he isn’t a franchise QB. I really haven’t seen much college ball this year, so I can’t comment on whether we should make a QB our #1 pick in the coming draft. I am more inclined to go for bigger people for the interior of our Off line and get bigger and faster at WR and CB. Another ball hawking safty to replace Kendrick would be nice too.

          • micah stephenson

            A QB is always worth the 1st pick. I’d rather have Geno or EJ over Fisher. We didn’t need fisher. E.winston is better or there where plenty of good free agent RTs. There are also plenty of rookie rts every yr hardly any QBs tho. We cud have got a wr 1st pick and Geno 2nd pick if we didn’t waste a pick on alex. We cud hav drafted Geno or EJ and let him sit behindd alex a yr. Then wen Alix flopped we got a QB ready.

          • jimfromkcj

            Sorry Micah, I don’t agree with your ideas at all. If we had traded off lines with the Broncos Sunday I believe we would have won the game, even with Peyton on the other side. With teams like the Chiefs having outside rushers on both sides it is even more important than ever to have big athletic tackles on both sides. I don’t believe for a minute that Albert or Fisher could keep Hali and Houston from getting to Peyton and more than likely putting him out of the game. If you watched the game closely you saw the Bronco tackles handleing Hali and Houston one on one most of the time on passing plays.I agree with you that Fisher so far is not as good as Winston, but he is still a rookie and hopefully will improve. I preferred Joeckel myself, but I am not too disappointed so far. We will have to wait till next year to see which one has the most potential for the future.

    • jimfromkcj

      Stacy, the Chiefs can never live up to fans expectations, just because fans can’t look at the team with an unbiased eye. Listen to a fan and it is all about feelings, and feelings supercedes all logic. Everybody has been saying we should run Jamal more and more, even tho common sense and past years show that he can be run into the ground with too many touchs. They ran him today and if you take away the 35 yard run he had, the rest of his runs averaged something over 2 yards. And Smith showed his limitations today for everyone to see. He can throw the ball 40 or 50 yards downfield, but only heaven knows where it will fall. He is just not an accurate deep thrower.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        I don’t think accuracy was Smith’s problem last night. I saw him make some of the best throws of the season in the game. He was victimized by a half-dozen or more drops (one of which would’ve been a score). Not much complaining I can do about a game where he tosses three TD’s and no INT’s. We killed ourselves last night with penalties, drops, and turnovers.

        • micah stephenson

          Hey Stacy, I wonder why when the wrs dropped Cassel passes it was the QBs fault, when they drop Smiths passes its actually the wrs fault.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Because apparently all passes are created equal. I get it, you don’t like Alex Smith. Can we move on?

          • micah stephenson

            Yea soon as we get a QB capable of winning playoff fames and a superbowl.

          • berttheclock

            You mean such as Colin Kaepernick, who had a whopping 4.1 yards average per catch and a mighty 72.9, as he threw for two, count ‘em, two TDs and a costly INT? He even tried to hit Jon Baldwin three times and all three missed.

          • micah stephenson

            He wud b an upgrade over Smith. Kopernick might have 15 nfl start while Alex already has 92 starts, Kop will get better, Alex AINT gon get no better.

          • DTVTechGuy

            Kapernick is never getting better. Kapernick is exactly what Kapernick is going to be. It’s no different than any QB of that type…

            Once you get tape on em…. They’re done.

            To say Kapernick will EVER be better than AS is just coming from a point of hatred. You don’t like AS… Fine…

            How’d Geno do yesterday?

          • micah stephenson

            Wow. Kop has mayby 15 starts, why can’t he get better? Geno played bad in his tenth start. After 8 1/2 seasons and 92 starts how did Alex look yesterday?

          • berttheclock

            Yes, do tell us more about the 3 INTs and a crucial fumble by your hero, Geno? Geno leads the league in INTs and in the 2nd half of play, he stood in the pocket looking dazed. Please, do not fall back on using Manuel, as he was only an afterthought for you when you ranted endlessly about Geno. Geno was so bad, yesterday, they pulled him for Matt Sims who may end up replacing him for the remainder of the year. Please, stay off any subject involving quarterbacks, as you really know very little about the subject.

          • micah stephenson

            Don’t Geno lead the lg n 4th QT combacks too? It ain’t about Geno, EJ, or any other rookie, its about smith not being the anser and the Chiefs still needing to upgrade the QB. Alex had his best game of the yr and it mananged to get us 17 pts. I still take Geno or EJ on this team with this schedule. I think our offense wud b better and we wud have a QB that will get better and not worse. I’d also take R.Wilson, Kopernick, or Foyles. Alex just ain’t got it! He can throw deep but is not very accurate (3rd worse completion % for passes over 10 yrds). He don’t throw outside the hash marks well, not as accurate as advertised on the short passes, plays scared, slow at reading defenses, bad at reconizing blitzes pre snap, even with time in the pocket is not very effective, won’t win the game for you, will b 30 soon, will want a new contract, will win enough games to make playoffs but prolly can’t win playoff games there for putting is worse position to draft a QB.

          • Ed

            Michah, my man. Dnnt tell me Gino what haved faired better last night.

          • berttheclock

            micah, you have become a one trick pony.

          • micah stephenson

            Uh the QB is the only one complaint I have for now.

        • berttheclock

          Yes, Smith’s throws were accurate. But, we killed ourselves in not playing aggressive bump and run on the wide outs for the Broncos. They consistently were able to get off the line, whether running quick slants or even getting into their patterns. Romeo, at least, would have played bump and run and jammed them. For all of his faults as a head coach, he knew how to game plan against Peyton and could really get into his head.

  • sidibeke

    I was also frustrated with the lack of bltzing, but looking back at the game and the box score, KC played well. Even in first downs, TOP, close on yards, held Den to 2.9 ypc. Just too many mistakes (AS taking a sack to push us out of any FG hope, couldn’t punch the ball in from the 2, dropped passes–Avery and Bowe, didn’t get the bounces on punts [too many touchbacks], gave Den 3 pts with that pitiful 1st drive, etc.).

    I look forward to the game at Arrowhead, and I hope to see some more pressure on Manning.

  • micah stephenson

    The game played out just how I knew it wud. With us not being able to score enough points with Alex Smith at QB.

    • gjrchief

      You blame this on Alex Smith? Your delusional. Anthony Sherman’s fumble was a 14 pt swing. That one play alone cost us this game. If Sherm holds that ball Smith would have ourscored Manning. If Sherman or Jamaal could gain one yard at the goal line we would have gotten another 4 pts. Smith wasnt perfect… either was Manning. The thing I know for sure… they both looked a hell of a lot better than Geno Smith.

      • micah stephenson

        Geno has nothing to do with Alex. This was probably Alex’s best game of the yr and it wasn’t good enough. If Alex cud throw downfield he wouldn’t be having to throw to the fullback. That figures, when its not the oline, its the RBs fualt. Its never Alex’s fualt.

        • berttheclock

          Ever consider enrolling in an English as a second language course?

          • micah stephenson

            Listen here *******. I spell how I want to. I cud simply choose the correct spelling of each word from the top of my screen or swith to voice type. I don’t cus I spell how I want to. Last thing I want to do is b like everyone else. I’m original even with my language and spelling.

          • berttheclock

            Yes, micah, you remind me of the time there were those who proposed having Ebonics being allowed for use in Federal Court. The worst thing about your usage is it really lowers any intelligence you are attempting the reader to perceive. Your arguments regarding quarterbacks and offensive linemen are bad enough in the first place, but, using what you perceive to be your own peculiar communicative skills lowers your arguments even more.

          • Danny W

            Get over it. You don’t like the guys point of view so you take a little personal swipe at him. He get’s his point across just fine. You don’t dig his style well guess what, post on someone else and ignore it. I think the fact that you can see you Alex Smith man crush wall’s crumbling with solid evidence your getting embarrassed.

          • PunjabiPete

            Even if we disagree, you are entertaining. I didn’t think Smith played horribly, but he didn’t play particularly great either. I am not quite ready to throw in the towel on him, but if I ever get to that point I am taking all of my talking points from your posts

          • micah stephenson

            Smith didn’t play bad by his standards, prolly his best game as a chief and you see what it got us, 17 pts.

          • Danny W

            At what point will the verdict be out for you on Smith? I’m saying where ten games in on regular season now and four preseason games. A full year? Two years? The guy is what he is. Average to below average

        • Danny W

          Just admit that Sherman lost the game! There in which the ten points lies that we left on the field. Not the other 100 yards Smith missed with his incompletions.

      • micah stephenson

        So the offense not being very good is Shermans fualt? Sherman fumbled in fg range, with Alex we prolly wud hav ended up kicking a fg. So 20 pts is outscoring them? Why has the offense looked like it has the other 9 games when Sherman didn’t fumble it?

    • Bosco Cletus

      I knew it wud too. lmao

    • Austin Bradley

      Wow you seem to be a person that has been hurt badly in your life. So you have found a cause and it’s alex smith. I just want to tell you it going to be ok. You are a good person and this to will pass. See all better!

      • micah stephenson

        Is that yo assessment doc? Here’s 5 cent Lucy.

      • Danny W

        Smith a hall of fame quarterback? 220 yard average good enough to get it done in today’s NFL? With the leagues best defense it’s still not Sir.

  • Andy

    Our defense did not force a turnover it was a bad exchange. We had penalties at the wrong time. No pass rush. We have not had much of a pass rush the last few games. I wonder if we are giving something away pre snap to the opponents offense lineman that allows them to know what our DE technique will be. Also it seemed that we played a rather vanilla game offensively and defensively.

  • John

    Where was the vaunted chiefs defense? I did not see it tonight.

    • Davé

      they held Denver to half its average almost. The offense was the ones who did not show up

    • micah stephenson

      The Broncos average 42 pts a game this yr. Our d held them to 27 points. An Alex Smith led offense just sucks.

      • Eric

        I have to agree. How many games does Smith have to be below average inaccurate QB before you guys will realize or at least admit that he sucks. He hasn’t won us a single game. Cassell could do what Smith has done. I’m tired of the BS check downs on every play. Get some balls Smith. Same thing every time. 3rd and 20. Two yard pass at the running backs feet. He is a backup at best. Worst decision by Reed and company. Now we lose another draft pick for an incompetent inaccurate check down throwing QB. Smith has got to go.

        • micah stephenson

          Its all about money here. he will win enough to sell tickets and keep Ried from getting fired so he is perfect from they stand point.

        • micah stephenson

          Whaaaaaat??? Somebody else is keeping it real. Wow. I don’t believe it. I knew a Smith led wasn’t gone score more than 17 pts this game.

        • Danny W

          Excellent comment. Because well obviously I agree. Heres to hoping Reid knows this too and is looking at next years draft class. He had Vick at his finest and still pulled the trigger on Nick Foles.

    • ArrowFan

      How many punts where there? Also that late first down was bull.

  • gjrchief

    I disagree… I believe we pushed the ball down field far too much. We are a defensive and running team. We lost because we let the broncos dictate how we should play. Alex throwing 40 times and Jamaal only getting 16 carries is inexcusable. We all but abandoned the run and started pushing the ball down field when we were down only 10 pts. Our defense was getting stops, there was no need to change who we are. We played our brand of football for 9 games, got 9 wins… we abandoned that in one game and lost.

    • Auburn78

      Im not sure we changed because of being down, rather outside of 1 good run most of Charles runs were being stuffed at the line. Noo too many holes last night.

  • JDInOregon

    Denver had a good game plan. They were the ones who played it safe offensively. They ran the ball a lot and chose lots of relatively safe pass patterns.

    Manning was getting rid of the ball quickly, and while there were a few nice blitzes by KC, Manning and the Broncos won that chess game fair and square.

    KC did try to stretch the field on offense, and it didn’t work overall for the same reasons it hasn’t worked all year–a combination of offensive line play and the inability of receivers to get open on a consistent basis. The QB is either running for his life, or he’s sitting back there waiting for someone to get open, and then he’s running for his life.

    Such is football. Smith played pretty darn well IMHO. The thing Smith naysayers might want to consider is how bad it could have been if Smith did not possess the skills and athletic ability that he does. This game could have been a bloodbath.

    This game pretty much shows how dependent KC is on Charles. If there’s not enough Charles, it’s going to be tough to win. But the coaches have to decide how much to try running versus passing, etc. Denver is not bad against the run, and it showed.

    Overall, I agree that Denver is no lock to win at Arrowhead in two weeks. Denver is good, but they’re not a dominating team. Frankly I don’t think Denver will go to the Stupor Bowl in New Jersey.

    But what about Wes Welker. You just have to take your hat off to the guy. Excellent is excellent. At this point he’s the one single Denver player that could tip the balance in two weeks. How in the heck the Patriots let him get away is beyond me. If he played for the Chiefs at this moment KC would be a virtual lock for an AFC title game at Arrowhead.

    • Jordan

      I’m sorry but to lay blame at the feet of the WRs and Oline and excuse Smith is ridiculous his accuracy is terrible too often he makes the wrong decision and even misses open receivers for a safe(unnecessary) check down like when your trying to drive in the fourth explain to me why it would be a good idea to throw to a well covered swing pass?!?! Smith is what he is a mediocre QB who we paid 2 2nd round picks for! I’m tired of people crediting our wins to smith because he’s the QB it’s been the defense without a doubt the whole offense needs to start playing like professionals because they’ve left nothing overly impressive on the field all year

      • JDInOregon

        Obviously we disagree. Smith had some very nice, accurate throws when he was given time and the receivers got slightly open. Far too often he’s running for his life, trying to find someone open, and then he has to try to make a safe pass under duress. He’s a decent enough QB who can also run, the KC offense just isn’t there yet.

      • Danny W

        Smith isn’t my first choice to play quarterback for us that’s for sure. I trust Reid to draft talent though much like he did with Foles and Vick.

        • Jordan

          We can only hope we invested 2 2nd rounders I’m afraid the 9-0 start is gonna tie the knot to smith for three years especially considering all the fuss made over his previous team never fully commiting to him

          • Danny W

            Nah, Reid just signed Vick to 100 million dollar deal and still drafted Foles.

          • Jordan

            True but that was stupid on the eagles part and I was referring to smith with the 9ers and kap

  • redchiefs

    Too many dropped balls. The fumble was huge to give it back to Denver. I liked them taking shots down the field early. JC wasn’t a receiving target near enough……..time to put both JC and Dex in slots in 4 wide formations and let Davis play RB at those times? Why didn’t Smith run more? Refs hurt us giving Denver that first down, receiver was out of bounds(in the air) when he extended his arms…..not before he was out of bounds…. the only way you can hit manning is all out blitzes……refs missed some holds on Hali, as usual… All in all, there were mental mistakes at important times, and Denver played their best. Now, when they come to KC we better see Chiefs play their best.

    • ArrowFan

      I think they changed the rules last night just to give them that first down.

    • Auburn78

      Guys have got to start learning rules. Decker had a 1st down. If a player stretches the ball across the plane before any part of their body lands out of bounds then the play results in a first down/td. That is why so many players dive for the pylon near the endzone. Only the ball needs to cross the plane

      • ArrowFan

        A TD is a TD when you brake the plane, had that been a end zone pillion it would have not been a touchdown becauce he didn’t brake the plane.

        • Auburn78

          Wrong. Per NFL rules. “When any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, breaks the plane of an opponents goal line, provided it is not a touchback. Same applies for first down markers. Not in any way trying to be rude but people REALLY need to learn rules

          • ArrowFan

            I agree the problem is when the ball is out of bounds it isn’t breaking a plane. like I said if there had been a pillion there it wouldn’t have moved because the ball was already out of bounds. Again changing the rules.

  • Chris Sanchez

    Not sure what game you were watching but the game was never close and Denver did not even come close to playing their best game of the season (KC’s defense had a hand in that). Denver beat KC at its own game and showed that last year they could beat KC in KC playing KC’s game. The scoring drives of the Chiefs were greatly aided by the Broncos and the officials (3 penalties on each TD drive) otherwise they could not move the ball consistently on Denver.

    • ArrowFan

      There was also a few drives that where killed because the refs didn’t make a call they should have. Denver was playing rough D and not getting the same calls that we where for playing the same D.

      • mnelson52

        Although there were some bad calls or no calls, we still could have won without dropped passes and the fumble. I do have to credit Denvers defense for the fumble though. Sherman was hit hard with the helmet right on the ball.

  • Aaron Martin

    My thoughts are the D played way to safe. AS must get his accuracy up for the deeper passes and especially on these short 5 yd routes (don’t throw it at their feet!!!) the offense will get better as the season goes on. But dropped passes are killing us right not with our so so offense. We need everything to work. But most of all very disappointed that Sutton didn’t try to dismantle Peyton some, especially in the second half!!

    • ArrowFan

      The O has had 10 games to get better. I thought the same but we should be seeing some kind of improvement out of the O line I’m not seeing it yet.

      • Aaron Martin

        I will agree with your point, but I’m hoping!!

    • micah stephenson

      The offense will get better as the season goes on? We only hav 6 regular season games left.

      • Aaron Martin

        I do agree and tetra what I said, I guess I mean I am hoping. I did like that they were trying to push the ball more, if only we could catch.

  • Auburn78

    Game wasOlin Olineexactly what I feared. On one hand our defense is probably better than I gave them credit for. On the other our offense is probably worse then I thought as well.
    My 3 keys were pass rush (I believe we had 1 sack in 3 games prior) and once again there is no rush. Manning has been in his butt a lot last 3 games yet Chiefs couldn’t figure out how.
    2nd was oline. I am sick if seeing d lineman get thru the middle of our line

    • Auburn78

      So easly. Fisher and Albert played ok I thought. But Allen and Hudson are provingto be subpar at best. Id be starting Schwartz over Allen from now on.
      Lastly we have to pass on the30th ranked pass D. Ok we did a little bit, but too often even with time Smith was putting passes behind his guys or in the dirt at their feet. Our offense has no rhythm and are just plain bad. Hell the Jags looked better on offense vs Denver. Kudos D you deserve better.

      • Ed

        I agree. Guards we have now need to be backups. Oh BTW, we better sighn Albert to a long term deal. He held his own again. Pay the man….

        • berttheclock

          Have you ever noticed the “Kiss of Death” often used by announcers. That is the moment, an announcer makes a pronouncement about how well someone is playing and the very next play will show them up. Last night, it was the brief segment showing the improvement of Fisher. They used 3 clips of his blocking the defensive player in front of him. Only problem was Denver flip flopped their DEs and the new guy from the other end roared past Fisher and sacked Smith.

  • stevekozak

    Alex needs receivers that can or will catch the ball. Alex also needs to quit throwing the low ball on the short passes. The lack of pass rush was a big negative for the D. Frustrated the hell out of me. Both Peyton and Tom Brady start to shake apart when you get a couple of hits on them. If they got hit as much as Alex does, they would put up horrible numbers. Game Plan in KC in two weeks needs more called Alex runs. If we had one of those at the goal line, it would have equaled a score. Can’t blame everything on the refs, but there was some bad officiating in this game. Really threw the rhythm off. Hopefully that won’t happen in KC.

    • Auburn78

      Those refs made calls in line with nfl rules. Now not every ref does and they were calling D tight. But there weren’t any Phantom calls. We just got to hope we get a different officiating crew next time. That wasn’t defense friendly

      • goodspkr

        In watching the game I thought it was bad officiating, but it went both ways.

      • ArrowFan

        I don’t know about that late first down they even changed the call on the field with not allot of video evidence. Also Tamba again is getting chocked out by their LT and no call. There was another time in the 3rd quarter that Bowe was all but tackled by one of their LB’s and yet no call.

        • Auburn78

          Flowers also took Welker out after the whistle with no call. Have to see both sides.

          • ArrowFan

            You mean the play where Welker fumbled the ball but the ref missed it?

          • Auburn78

            No. There was a play in the first quarter where Flowers blew him up after the whistle. .. on a play that didn’t go to Welker. I laughed at the time. But would have been mad if a ref had saw it and called it

      • Danny W

        I say Hali get drug down by his neck three times and didn’t get called for holding against him once. If that tackle gets hit for holding he knows he’s being watched and I think we get to Manning with just four. The fact that we get held and it’s like who gives a darn because Manning is throwing then we have no chance of hitting him.

  • Jarad

    They are what people kept saying they are. Strong defensively and very limited offensively. It was a frustrating game to say the least. The only part that i thoroughly enjoyed was Flowers passion! He was playing fierce out there. Great job D in general. Piss poor job O. Rebound against SD!!!

  • freshmeat62

    Did they rehire Romeo Crennel as DC? Where was the pressure? And Manning has a bum ankle! How many times did Houston rush Manning in the first 3 qtrs? Sutton just took him out of the game. It’s like the Chiefs were playing w/only 10 men on defense. Same w/ Poe. I can understand playing contain some when the QB can run, but good heavens, this was Payton Manning. The defensive game plan was bad. That’s 3 games in a row now, that there hasn’t been much pressure.

    The offense game plan, I thought, was a little more open than in the past. Too many dropped passes, and next to no separation by the receivers, but overall, I was OK w/ the overall offensive game plan. For the most part, the o-line was giving Smith time to throw.

  • goodspkr

    As a Bronco fan, I did not see the Chiefs force a fumble on the Broncos. There was a bad exchange of the football from Manning to Ball. Nothing forced in that exchange.

    • freshmeat62

      Right. Manning hit him in the elbow w/ the ball.

    • Danny W

      We forced a fumble from Welker but he recovered it himself.

  • Jared Watson

    Too many lost opportunities. Could have EASILY been a 27-24 game late in the game, and probably should have been tied with the Chiefs driving. Chiefs D held the Broncos to 10 second half points. Can’t ask for much more than that from a scoring defense perspective. The offense was able to move the ball but then would hit a brick wall whether it was penalties, drops, or bad passes. Overall I’m encouraged with the defense, especially considering they didn’t disrupt Manning at all. Biggest thing is this offense needs to finish drives and stop leaving easy points off the board. I’m looking forward to the tougher schedule. If you really want to be the best you have to be tested by the best and beat them. I’m ready for that challenge and the Chiefs are ready for that challenge.

  • freshmeat62

    I think the Chiefs could have won that game if Manning had been pressured more early in the game. He didn’t look at all confident the first qtr, like he was expecting this defensive juggernaut that never came. By the 4th qtr he was looking pretty much at ease.

    And if Flowers is going to talk trash, back it up. Last nite he was chirping at Welker, while Welker was catching 1st downs.

  • ArrowFan

    Our O line had a horrible game Smith probably should be to blame for one or two of the sacks we gave up but the O line is still not helping him out. Another thing that drove me nuts was their D line knocking down so many passes. If the O lineman where engaging the D line then their hands can’t be in the air. Part of it is the fact that we tried to run more screen passes than anything. If we are going to be Dumbver or anybody of that caliber our O line is going to need to grow up. Did anyone else notice that when Shwartz came in at right guard we marched down the field and scored?

    • micah stephenson

      Alex Smith had a 4 to 5 count all night!!!!! How much more time can you ask for??? A 6, 7, 8 count?!?! Manning gets rid of the ball in 2.5 count. Alex can’t get it done with twice the amount of time? During the game the announcers kept saying our oline was playing good. Our Dline batted Mannings passes too, that didn’t stop him from moving the ball.

      • ArrowFan

        The sack he took that ended the first half’s last drive was all the o line. But like I said one or two of them was on him.

    • micah stephenson

      So are you saying Shwartz is better than Asomoah? Even if we gave Alex an extra sencond or 2 in the pocket he won’t b much better.

    • Danny W

      Saying the O line had a horrible game is asinine AF. I’m talking ridiculous Sir. Alex Smith had time to read a freaking book when he was back there on over 90 percent of his throws. Some of his sacks he had four seconds by my watch and he didn’t throw it away and took a sack during clock management periods. Alex Smith isn’t a good quarterback.

  • berttheclock

    Lyle, my wife is a refined UCLA grad with a Masters from Mills. She was screaming at the refs who refused to call the holds on Hali and Houston on defense and Bowe on offense. She, finally, had enough and stormed from the room yelling, “It is a farce. They have bought the refs”. I was rather shocked, appalled and taken aback as she was actually drowning out my furious comments to the screen. Worst reffed game I have ever witnessed. The Broncos went to their first SB win with the help of their 12th man and I have seen other games between the Chiefs and the Broncos, where their 12th man decided games. The 12th man in Seattle is made up of fans. The 12th man in Denver is made of so-called NFL referees.

  • berttheclock

    What really was conservative was not jamming the receivers of the Broncos. There was no bump and run installed.

    • mnelson52

      They were physical in the start but the refs were calling penalties so they had to back off. Then that allowed them to get free in 2 seconds for Manning. A 2 second pass will override any good pass rush.

  • micah stephenson

    I’ve noticed kc fans hav really lowered they expectations at QB. Smith has 220 yards passing and it considered a “good” game. When other QBs have 220 yards in a game its considered a bad game for them.

    • berttheclock

      How about the whopping 127 yards by Colin Kaepernick, yesterday? BTW, many fans of the Niners want Alex Smith back as CK is really beginning to show his lack of maturity on the field.

      • micah stephenson

        If they gave us Kop, they can hav Alex back!!!! Kop has mayby 15 nfl starts, u wasn’t talkin bad about kop during the 5 game win streak. What do kop, Geno, or any QB not name Alex Smith have to do with Alex sucking and us still needing to upgrade QB.

    • Danny W

      He made some accurate passes down field during the game. He still missed a ton, but where have these long passes on a line been hiding? I think KC is handicapped by Alex Smith and I trust Reid will draft a quarterback next year.

      • mnelson52

        I think Alex Smith is handicapped by Reids play calling. He says himself that he has to get better.

  • Chuck Burrell

    Zero pass rush and -6 yards from our leading receiver. Jamaal has been shut down through the air in two conseucutive games. Somebody HAS to step up. Bowe hits the ground voluntarily every time the ball is thrown his way. Think he’s thinking about staying healthy instead of YAC?? I do… Disappointing loss but it’s not the end of the season. Let’s just take care of San Diego and go from there.

  • Danny W

    Great read.
    I think on some replays that I had seen of Wes Welker the Broncos do an excellent job of running pick plays that force a receiver open. They’re never called I don’t guess but it looked like to me that the receivers were blocking for other receivers all night long and it never got called. Best offensive line performance of the year and we still only come up with 17 points. Alex Smith made some throws that impressed me. He waited until the tenth game to do so and only threw two of them. Not enough for me. I’ve seen enough of this sample size to really really hope Andy Reid has another Nick Foles draft in him. I’m tired of receivers dropping passes too. I think Avery drops another crucial throw and he should be cut next year. Bowe needs to catch the football too. He’s starting to look like another two receiver though.