K.C. Chiefs: The Bye And Bye

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Can you believe the Chiefs are 9-0? Me either. Not really. I can’t. But they are and with an extra week off to ruminate on all things Chiefs it’s clearer than ever that anything related to the subject of the Chiefs, is unclear.

Friends argue the Chiefs shouldn’t be 9-0 and I say, “But they are.” National columnists decry the schedule the Chiefs have faced but there are a lot of teams in the league who were supposed to beat other teams… but haven’t.

The Bye Week is also a time to reflect.

I still try to find meaning in the senselessness that took place in the Chiefs parking lot 12 months ago this coming December 1st. But I can’t… and yet the strangeness of a Chiefs record being 9-0 makes it feel as if there are some great football Gods out there saying, “You’ve had enough pain for awhile, as has your new coach — so here, enjoy these victories. Enjoy them together”

The football part of me wants the Chiefs to completely revamp their offensive line and replace both LG Jeff Allen and Center Rodney Hudson. But, I know it’s not practical in the short time that goes into preparing for a team like the Denver Broncos 11 days from now.

I find myself looking back ten years, the last time the Chiefs went 9-0. That was when Priest Holmes was working his magic and I keep wondering if I was happier seeing the Chiefs score points easier than playing Skee Ball at Chuck E Cheese or having a defense that is so stout that other teams can’t figure a way to get into the end zone more than once per game?

I don’t know the answer to that. It sure was fun to watch the Chiefs score ala 2003. But this offense is having big problems sustaining drives against defenses that aren’t even top ten defenses.

The Bye Week has me celebrating the fantastic place the Chiefs are at — but it’s a strange place, being filled with “wonder” and “worry” simultaneously.

The Bye week… hmm, that was a victory on Sunday against the Bills right? Just checking because celebrating the game that kicks off this Bye Week is a bit like celebrating at your daughter’s 1st semester graduation in Kindergarten when you just slammed the car door on your thumb.

The Bills beat the Chiefs in:

Time of possession,

First Downs- 25 to 15,

Total plays- 77 to 54,

Total yards- 470 to 210,

Yards per play- 6.1 to 3.9,

Sacks- 2 to 0,

and Rushing- 241 to 95,

They just didn’t beat the Chiefs.

The Bills even beat the Chiefs in penalties and penalty yards but… because the Bills turned the ball over 3 times and the Chiefs converted all 3 of those into points, the Chiefs learned to count to nine.

I understand that football is ultimately — entertainment. However, there is something bizarre about the feeling of this Bye Week.

It almost seems more appropriate to call this one: the Bye and Bye Week.

As in, I’ll see you in the great Bye and Bye, i.e. the great beyond. Or… yes you’ll get there Bye and Bye, i.e. sooner or later.

In any event it hardly feels like time for feasting.

Perhaps it feels like pure victory for the defense. They’ve got the power. On Sunday during the game I posted that CB Marcus Cooper should be considered for the Pro Bowl this year! While that is an exhilarating thought it all comes back to the offense… which obviously needs to be reworked.

Head coach Andy Reid is the one calling the shots here and any fan who isn’t thrilled beyond belief to be cheering their long-beloved Chiefs to a ninth straight victory should be taken for psych evaluation.

Screen Shot 2013-11-05 at 9.43.46 PMHowever, it’s a bit unnerving to critique the clubs weak link, which happens to be the offense, when it is Andy Reid’s baby. He hires the coaches. He helps shape the roster. He coaches em up. He designs the plays. He calls the plays. He helps to buy the groceries… as Bill Parcells used to put it. Reid owns this offense as much as any coach can own an offense.

Screen Shot 2013-11-05 at 9.49.10 PMA week ago following the Chiefs 8th straight victory Reid mentioned they would be looking at any changes that needed to be made… “during the Bye Week.” You can critique the life out of the offense but you get the idea Andy Reid is not going to make the needed changes mid-season to the interior of the OL until the season is over. Why, because there is a very personal way Reid nurtures the people he’s chosen to play those positions. Plus, if the replacement he chooses then becomes injured he’s in a tough position, asking that “demoted” player to return and perform to standards.

Screen Shot 2013-11-05 at 9.39.49 PMWouldn’t you rather see Donald Stephenson or Geoff Schwartz play LG next to Brandon Albert the remainder of the season? Either would be excellent choices to replace Allen or Hudson except Stephenson is not built or schooled at Center.

Both Center Rodney Hudson and Left Guard Jeff Allen are completely whiffing on blocking assignments. Let’s not get into a debate about Alex Smith’s effectiveness here but let’s focus on what I believe is the offensive line’s shortcoming… and that is the one and only reason for the Chiefs offense woes this season.

The only reason. Now why would that be?

I know there’s a whole voting district worth of naysayers out there ready to impeach Alex Smith but 99% of Smith’s challenges can be traced to “poor offensive line protection.”

On Sunday, Alex Smith appeared to be hurrying his throws. Some were ending up in the dirt in front of his receivers. Other throws appeared to be short-armed and come out low if not completely off target.

In the past, Alex Smith’s throws on the run have been notably accurate. He’s been known for it. Now, not so much. The touch that once was there, isn’t anymore.

So, has Alex Smith turned rancid like a holiday pie left one week too long in the frig?

No. Smith is still the same solid QB he’s ever been but the one element that can throw a QB’s timing off is: consistent pressure in your face. Both the Cleveland Browns and the Buffalo Bills have been able to get through and get a hand on Smith. So much so that it’s as much about Smith being knocked so his throws are off line as it is about feeling comfortable in the pocket, which he does not.

When a QB begins a play and is already thinking about being hit: the play is over before it’s started because that QB has already begun to think about his options. There is “option” football and then there is “option football.” One good… the other, not so good.

It was great to see Smith targeting Dwayne Bowe (12 times) and a variety of receivers against the Bills. But, were the Chiefs able to sustain a drive? They did once when they went from their own 46 to the Bills 25 and kicked a field goal. Wow! That’s “wow” as in, that’s pathetic.

Hopefully the Bye Week takes some of that mental state (the results of living in a  H O T – P O C K E T- special thanks to Jim Gaffigan) away from Alex Smith. What would help more than anything else would be better protection. Both Donald Stephenson and/or Geoff Schwartz are capable of providing that.

As I wrote on Saturday in a piece called, “The Chiefs And The Knockout Punch” I believe the Chiefs have more players capable of delivering a knockout punch than any other team in the league. However, the confidence gained from this game should provide more confidence for the defense alone. Not the offense. The offense is probably in a greater state of self doubt than at any other time of the season.

Is there a way to say, “de-confidencing?”

As much as you’d like for Andy Reid to step up, he doesn’t have to make a change. However, the Baltimore Raven made mid-season changes to their offensive line and it paid big returns. Even if it’s only one change, it can be symbolic and help the whole team know their leader is doing all he can to guide them towards a championship. For some reason, perhaps past negative operant conditioning, I think there’s about as much chance of Reid changing offensive linemen at this stage of the season as there ever was for Scott Pioli allowing Matt Cassel to be yanked. Although, I hope I’m wrong.

While Reid seems less likely to move Center Rodney Hudson than LG Jeff Allen, if there is going to be a change, look for it to happen there at LG.

My speculation would be that Geoff Schwartz takes over at LG… if any change is going to occur at all. However, there are other choices.

Sitting on the Chiefs bench is unproven G Rokevious Watkins. Watkins is 6-3 & ¾ and 338 lbs and was drafted out of South Carolina in the 5th round by the Rams in the 2012 draft. The Rams released him on July 24th this summer and the Chiefs signed him on August 3rd. If Reid is serious about trying something new, Watkins is already on the active roster and won’t cost a penny to audition. We’ve seen it time and time again, a new player comes in and plays lights out. Never know until he’s given game time minutes and is allowed to perform against the leagues best.

Like many Chiefs fans, I’m spending a lot of time right now sticking up for the Chiefs. I’d do that even if they were 2-14. However, since the Chiefs have such a great opportunity to go a long ways in the playoffs this year, wouldn’t you like to see them make the decisions best for the team now, and not wait until the off season or some other year.

One example of waiting until it’s too late is the curious case of Tony Gonzales. I knew it was not going to happen when Thomas Dimitroff came out at the beginning of last week and made a statement, “We have not gotten the results we want… but, I believe in our coaches and players.”

Sounds like some Scott Pioli-isms to me. Brilliant!

In the business world, there is no deal that should be considered impossible. Don’t you wonder what Gonzo is thinking now? He asked the team for a trade and then they went out and lost to Carolina on Sunday. Now they stand 2-6 and are getting ready to play, Seattle, New Orleans, Green Bay, Washington, San Francisco and Carolina, again, in the second half of this season?

I wonder just how strong Dimitroff’s beliefs are and if those beliefs will carry him all the way to a chair sitting next to Mr. Pioli in an announcers booth?

It may sound like crying over spilt milk or water under the bridge… but great teams get made not only by the deal they don’t make, but by the deals they do make. And sometimes, some deals, are worth making, no matter what. Especially when the fit could have put the Chiefs over the top as they move forward… this year… on their way to the White House and Disneyland.

Now, Atlanta sits on their hands, having tucked G-Dawg away in a holding cell, having completely defaulted on their promise to “contend” as well as wasting their ability to make something from nothing — which is not what they’re paying him — but certainly what they will benefit by having him on their roster the remainder of the year. So now, Dimitroff’s words are hollow and who will believe him in the future? While Gonzo has been reduced to a dead-man-walking, what else is Tony going to say except, “I will go out and give my best for the team every week?”

Meh. Double-meh!

Perhaps a more experienced John Dorsey could have pointed all of this out to Mr. “Dim”itroff but then again… woulda-coulda-shoulda.

If things remain the way they are right now, it looks like the Chiefs will need help from someone else in the AFC West, to stay competitive in the division. The Chiefs offense scored two TDs against the Browns and that was barely enough to beat them. The defense had to score two TDs in Buffalo for the team to eek out a victory.

Two offensive TDs in two game is what the Chiefs defense is limiting other teams too. If the offense can’t outscore their own defense, well, there’s gonna be trouble, right here in river city, with a capital “T” and that rhymes with “P” and that stands for POO (Pathetic Offensive Output). My apologies to Meredith Wilson who wrote “Ya Got Trouble” for the 50s and 60s hit musical called, “The Music Man.”

It’s never a good situation when you must depend on other teams to win or lose or to knock off a foe for you. However, it looks like the Chiefs will need the Chargers to beat the Broncos in San Diego this coming weekend in order for the Chiefs to keep pace with the Broncos in the division.

That’s because if the Chiefs offense performs the way they have the past two weekends, they won’t have nearly enough firepower to keep pace with Denver, no matter how well the defense plays. And since they play twice in a three week period the Chiefs will need the two game cushion the Chargers would give the Chiefs by beating Denver this weekend.

That’s the downside.

The upside is, if the Chiefs play like they did in the first 7 games they will be competitive with the Broncos. Why? It’s not so much that the Chiefs first 7 games were all offensively stellar but, the Denver Broncos defense really kinda — there’s just no other way to say it — stinks this year.

The Broncos have allowed 27.2 points per game and have the 24th ranked defense overall. Their pass defense is ranked 30th in the league while the Chiefs defense is ranked 1st in the league in points per game. Denver is 25th.

In other words, if the Chiefs offense can shake the doldrums they have fallen into the past two weeks they could easily score the amount of points the Denver D allows per game. They’ll need to because the lowest number of points the Broncos have scored this year so far is 33 against Indy.

You have to be thrilled with 9-0 but, let’s not joke ourselves, somethings rotten in Denmark, and it’s obviously the offensive line. Now, if it doesn’t get fixed in the next ten days, you probably shouldn’t expect anything more than the downside scenario that I’ve laid out above

On the other hand, Andy Reid and company have met or exceeded every expectation so far this season… so… who am I to question.

Well, Addicts, do you have any questions you’d like answered in the bye and bye?

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  • paul pace

    Good article with some valid points, but I doubt Reid is going to make any changes with the offensive line at this point and time in the season. Although, I would like to see Allen at least replaced Hudson should probably stay where he is at. The Chiefs don’t have anyone at that position with any professional experience to replace Hudson at center. So, bottomline we are probably stuck with what we have on the O line for the rest of the season with the exception of any injuries that would occur that would force Reid to replace those positions.

    • berttheclock

      One comment has always bothered me about Hudson. It was made in some article concerning his play at Florida State. He won more honors for playing all four years on the line than any other FSU player. But, the comment concerned why he was playing center and that comment said he had been switched to center because it was felt he was too small to play other line positions. Now, there was not much left in that draft at center after Pouncey was taken, but, it really looked as though it was another Pioli reach for need.

      • paul pace

        I don’t recall hearing that comment about Hudson. I really didn’t know he was considered small to play other positions on the O-line but It does appear that he gets beat quite a few times. But, maybe it is just because he is out of position and just needs more time to get his technique down. . So bert, am I correct in assuming that if Hudson goes down then all we have is a rookie center to replace him?

      • ladner morse

        The one thing about Hudson that I thought was great at his combine was his feet. I recall them doing close-ups of all linemen’s feet and his were the quickest feet I could remember that year. So, when the Chiefs drafted him I was glad from that standpoint. His ability to mirror his opponent was unparalleled.

  • berttheclock

    Excuse me, Sanford F Bennett, may I borrow a few lines from your “In the Sweet By and By”?
    “In the sweet bye and bye, we shall meet on that beautiful Arrowhead shore, the melodious songs of the Chiefs and our spirits shall sorrow no more; not a sigh for the blessing of winning”

    One positive note for myself is Rokevious Watkins has found a great place to improve. He has needed strong conditioning and strength coaching. He spent two years going through the motions at a small military academy in Georgia before going to South Carolina. There, he had to work harder for hard nosed SEC coaches. They pushed him into making the first team All SEC. However, after the Rams drafted him, he showed up for camp over weight and out of shape. He never was able to get back into the flow with the Rams. So, now, he has come to a place where he will receive proper direction and teaching. Hurry up as the Chiefs really need you on the line. We are getting a little tired of having a couple of Maitre’Ds directing defensive linemen to their sacking tables.

  • freshmeat62

    You just wrote everything I’ve been thinking the last several weeks. Right on!

    At the beginning of the year I went thru the schedule and thought that the 1st part of it, before the bye, was the easiest. I knew that the offense was the weakest part of the team, and the line the weakest part of that. Since the earlier part of the schedule was the easiest, and the line was relatively young, that that would give them time to jell as a unit. They haven’t.

    I was thinking the same thing about putting Schwartz, or Stephenson at LG. Don’t know if Schwartz can play C, (or Watkins – don’t know anything about him), but changes need to be made.

    Another thing that stood out like a sore thumb, that might be a contributing problem, is the blocking schemes. Last weeks analyst made a big deal, and rightfully so, of one play where Hudson had to go about 5′ to his left to reach the guy he was suppose to block. I assume it was some sort of stunt blocking, but good lord, that was bound to fail. I haven’t paid a lot of attention to see if they do that a lot, but that is a correctable issue.

    So much depends on that o-line working as a unit, it can make a world of difference in the plays that can be called. If Smith knows he’s going to get the time to throw, then they can go deep more often. Since Avery is suppose to have all this speed, I would love to see him on a fly pattern just outrun the CB.

    • berttheclock

      Avery has, but, Smith’s throw was just a little long. They have tried that fly pattern more than once. The first time it appeared Avery hesitated enroute and, again, a near miss. I believe there was one other with the ball going out of bounds. I have put it down as more time needed to hook up, meaning both practice and proper blocking. Remember, the two best years with the Niners were behind a solid o-line and at least two or more years playing with the same receivers.

  • Mike Diel

    Great article as usual Laddie. The 2003 Chiefs might have been a better team, time will tell. The 2003 Chiefs were way too cocky. Dante Hall was catching footballs on the tonight show in the middle of the season. They were undefeated, and going to give the 71 dolphins a run for their money. They were do for a fall. The 2013 Chiefs talk about how they have to improve every time they win another game. ANDY ROCKS!
    I’m very tired of the Tony G talk. Yes we’d love to have Tony back and he’d love to to be back on the Chiefs at 9-0, but there are a lot of jobs on the line in Atlanta. I can’t understand why they would trade off one of their beat players when they are desperate for wins.

    IMHO if we want to beat Denver we have to win the time of possession. Long slow drives to keep the ball away from them, and when they do have the ball hold them to field goals.

    • ladner morse

      Thanks Mike. Nice post!

    • elly violette

      How are the Chiefs going to make long slow drives as you say, without controlling the line of scrimmage? The Chiefs have to be able to do both running and throwing the ball if they want to have success against Denver.

  • Danny W

    Even if we did replace Allen (which is needed) we’re still vulnarable at right tackle. I know no one is ready to give up on Fisher and I’m not either but the guy isnt playing at the level in which he was drafted. I agree about Denver and in fact San Diegois going to be a massive handful too

    • berttheclock

      Pro Football Focus just awarded Fisher his best grade for the season. He was rated for the Bills game at a plus two. BTW, how is Mr Joeckel doing at present?

      • Danny W

        I dont care about Joeckel burt. im glad Fisher had a good day but i stand behind my statement that he isnt playing at number 1 pick level. How dare I critique ne one in a Chiefs uni tho right? Thems hatin words huh?!

        • jacati

          umm I think Bert was just pointing out that Fisher actually had a positive grade for once. Maybe he’s not a pro bowler at his position ( not too many rookies are ) but he did show some improvement last week. Sure beats the way he’s been playing up to this point. He also had some pretty stiff competition. No hate amongst us. Just a lot of love… and a few, hope they stay friendly, disagreements. Kirk out

          • Danny W

            I think Bert is an apologist for anyone in a Chiefs uniform. I disagree with this type of view as a fan’s perspective. I’m not saying he’s wrong for it I mean route however you want, I just can’t agree with it. Some of my best friends were talking about how good Tyler Palko was going to be, telling Denver fans he was the next Rich Gannon. Why? Because he wore Chiefs red and that was enough for them. To be a true fan you had to believe the guy could be the best even if he had been cut from the Canadian league.
            I mean call me a hater but I feel as if though I’m a realist.
            I’m not one of those fan’s that feel as if though that just because they wear Chiefs red that they’re in some fraternity that automatically makes them one of the great ones or something. If I see a weakness I’m going to point it out, not say something positive instead or throw some good vibes at it.
            The article had several points about critiquing the offensive line. Fisher was left out. He’s not done great in any game. 2 plus point’s for one game or not he’s not had one game that say’s yeah that’s why we drafted the kid number one. He’s dominated literally no one. Sean McGrath is bigger than he is. So Joeckel isn’t doing any better, I don’t care, I wanted Fisher. I hope he turns out to be at least average because at this point that’s all you can ask.

          • kcpauly

            I think Bert is a true fan of this team and is happy about the season…you should try it sometime
            Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!

          • Danny W

            Who made you the ultimate authority on what a true fan is Pauly? I bet if the Chiefs told you to drink kool aid with some creepy looking guy and put on a pair of nike tennis shoes that matched his and we would win the super bowl you’d do it.
            I’ll route how I want, you route how you want. I’ll post my opinion you do the same. You don’t dig what I write, well who gives two turds? Post on someone else then that’s as homery as you are. Or just hang out at kcchiefs.com. Guess what bud, not every one thinks like you do. It’s narrow minded and petty of you to think everyone should and if they don’t well then their not what you consider a true fan.

          • kcpauly

            Not so much homery as just try to be a little happy with 9-0 after sooooo many dismal years that’s all I’m saying Danny, we have been through so much negative as Chiefs fans , that we finally have something to be happy about, and people still want to be negative, can we at least wait until there is a reason? that is all I’m getting at, we as always all have our right to our opinions, but we also have our rights to disagree, as well. Any way you slice it we are 9-0 and and I’m sure we all agree on……………..
            Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Danny W

            Agreed.

  • kcchiefinlv

    Schwartz for Allen- perhaps. Stephenson no.

    Hudson, like all centers in the league, need time to develop. Give him a chance. He needs to learn how to get his ass down before the QB starts signaling snaps though. Dierdorf pointed out that he wasn’t going into his squatted position until he was ready to snap the ball and that if he could point this out, then the defenders were all over it. Hudson has improved his snaps over last year when the exchanges between him and oh I forgot the name of that QB we had last year for some reason were ending up on the turf.

    That D-line for Buffalo is one of the best in the league.

    Give the O-line a chance to gel. The 2003 O-line we had when Priest was running all over the place was one of the best ever. We may not see that again for a long time. It takes time for an O-line to gel, oftentimes years before players play in a manner where they can both take care of their responsibilities and compliment other linemen. We all knew before the draft that our O-line needed serious help. That’s why we drafted Fisher. Fisher is a rookie and needs time too. He’s in a position he’s never played before. Allen is no Brian Waters, but then again- How often does a Brian Waters come along? Schwartz and especially Stephenson are no Brian Waters either. Let them develop into solid players and let’s not expect them to play at a HOF player’s level because it probably isn’t going to happen anytime soon if at all.

    Another thing we should consider is that this team has been playing in 9 very close dogfights week after week and their bodies are broken down and need to heal. The bye will help with that. Their minds will be clear and focused on Denver.

    • berttheclock

      On that five foot pull by Hudson, he had to try to get ahead of Kiko Alonso, who is one of the fastest LBs and, at this time, he is considered to be the Rookie of the Year for defensive players. Stephenson still lacks strength. When, he came to Chiefs before the new regime, the first comment about him from any Chiefs assistant was he needed at least a couple of years in the weight room. He does not have upper body strength.

    • berttheclock

      BTW, as you mentioned Waters, did you know he was a DE, TE and FB in college? After the Chiefs picked him up as an UDFA, they sent him to play Euro Ball in order to have him learn how to play center. When, he returned they moved him to guard.

      • kcchiefinlv

        I did not know that bert. That’s interesting and thanks for the reply.
        I do know that some people are just made to play football and it takes a good coach to put them in the right position though. Your story suggests that Waters was one of them.
        Sometimes it takes playing for the right team. Take San Fran for example. A fan on another website was thanking the Chiefs for next years second round draft pick (the conditional for Smith). I said you’re very welcome and thank you for Alex. But there was absolutely no mention of Marcus Cooper. Either the GM for the 49ers, Trent Baalke, is kicking himself right now or it just wasn’t the right team for Cooper and KC is. Either way, Dorsey picked up a future pro bowl corner off the waiver wire.

        • berttheclock

          Baalke tried to get cute with Cooper. There was one other rookie DB for the Niners with blazing speed. He wanted to keep both on his taxi squad. He thought he could slip them through waivers. However, Dorsey and his staff observed Cooper working out before their preseason game against the Niners. So, Dorsey swooped. The other guy cleared, went to the taxi squad and has since been elevated to the 53.

          • kcchiefinlv

            Ah, I remember the 9ers pre-season game, but we didn’t get to see him play. Dors just saw him working out. That makes sense.
            Do you know anything about how the guys we picked up from Seattle were scouted?

        • berttheclock

          Thank them, also, for Ron Parker.

          • kcchiefinlv

            Parker yes. I kinda wanted to see “Wheels” make the team as a good backup slot receiver for Run DMC. I’m not sold on Hall.

  • kcchiefinlv

    …and another thing I’ve learned from this season.
    National reporters and fans around the country don’t know shit.

    • elly violette

      My thoughts exactly!

  • Stan

    Quit selling Alex short. I’m hearing the same thing they said back in 2011 when the 9ers played against the Saints and Brees (now Manning) in the playoffs. Alex came through with a historical performance in NFL history.

    • elly violette

      Great point! That was a great game too. Isn’t that the one when he had a long run up the left sideline?

  • Scott Gauld

    Love the article! I didn’t like Allen when the season began and Hudson is horrible! The number of plays when I’ve seen someone from the defensive line just run untouched is out of control.

    • elly violette

      I see the exact same thing and I wonder why Andy Reid “would not” do something to replace them… I mean… please give someone else a chance… it seems like it can’t get any worse.

  • Kansas City Rob

    Before the season started, I barely could allow myself the thought of a 10-6 season. They are on the verge of it. The improvement has been so great, yes, they have issues, but I’m just along for the ride so how about just gettingtoenjoy undefeated for 2 weeks!!! We can tear apart the weaknesses after the season, or not. Go Chiefs!!

    • elly violette

      No… not tearing it apart… just a few adjustments. :)

  • micah stephenson

    I’m get sick and tired of this blamed on the oline. I said 5 games ago “we’ll there goes cover 2, they know Alex can’t/won’t go deep, so its 1 safety high, its gone be 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 , 11, 12, 13, men I the box ready to to rush the QB and tackle J.C on tbe way back there if they happen to hand it to him. Now when 5 online can’t stop 6 man blitzes they suck. Why the f**k wud a defense give a bum like Alex all day to throw? Its Alex Smith, go blitz his ass, we know he ain’t gone b able to do shit. Thats what they saying on defense. We don’t just sit back and not attack the QB so why wud other team? its Alex Smith!!! I wish he wud try to drop back and pass deep, ima get him. That’s how they feel on defense. Our oline is fine. Guard can b upgraded and Hudson just needs lil time to get better. If our QB made plays with his arm the defense wud b playing cover 2 and back people up trying to figure out how to slow down the passing attack. Alex Smith gets about the same amount of time the other 31 starting QBs get. Even if we gave Alex an extra second or two, does anybody think he wud really b that much better???? I don’t!!!

    • micah stephenson

      After all that being said. Alex do suck so the oline do need to step it up. They need to give him all day and night and week in the pocket! With a bum like Alex we need a pro bowler at every position on the oline.

      • Danny W

        Funny howwhen Manning lost Clady he didnt miss a beat. It seems good quarterbacks make everyone around them better and bad ones make everyone around them worse..MarshalFaulks not buying in to Smith and Im not either..9 weeks is enough of a sample size for me to want a new one maybe as early as next year.

        • elly violette

          You really think the Chiefs would make a change at QB before 2015?

          • ladner morse

            Elly… good point and I’m pretty sure this regime thinks he’s doing well right now.

          • micah stephenson

            Yea he do n well in the only category chiefs care about. Ticket sales!!!! We won’t win any superbowls with this offense but hey tickets sales are up.

          • Danny W

            The guy extends play’s with his legs and is good at not turning the ball over. I wouldn’t say he’s a good passer which if I’m not mistaken is a huge part of his job at a multi million dollar level. People can say he’s a good passer all they want but no other quarterback that I’ve seen in the NFL throws as many three yard passes and misses so many wide open receivers.

          • kcpauly

            Why don’t you or Micah play QB for the Chiefs then you know it alls? just can’t stand to be happy at 9-0 either one of you, don’t forget the last few years of suckage, pick the pepper out of the fly shit and bitch and moan, well I for one hope you bitch and moan all the way to a SB victory for AS11 and the Chiefs, then you both can get together and deep fry up some tasty crow, you bunch of negative nancy’s, shit oh dear man try to enjoy the success of the TEAM, and AS11 is on the TEAM there ain’t shit either one of you guy’s pissing and moaning is going to change that, so try to turn your frowns upside down and try to be happy for a change, oh wait haters gonna hate right? So sick and tired of you downers ruining everybody elses fun and joy for this incredible season, but even if AS11 takes us to the SB you Fucks still won’t be happy about something, so why not let us true fans enjoy our team and STFU with all your negative BS already
            Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Danny W

            Did you do your homework? You know it needs to be done before bedtime.

          • kcpauly

            Aw shucks dad do I have to? LoL
            Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Danny W

            Doing well at what? Not turning the ball over? Extending a few plays with his legs? Sure. Other than that he’s had a hard time completing high percentage throws. You think he’s worth a multi year deal with Matt Cassel type money?

          • micah stephenson

            Yes. You can tell by Andys play calling that even he knows Alex ain’t as good as advertised. Alex is getting worse every week. They need to draft a QB asap.

          • Danny W

            Yeah, I think if Reid had Foles right now we’re looking at an entirely different play book.

          • Danny W

            I trust Reid. He drafted Foles with Vick, and look at what Foles is doing right now. The kid is looking like a boss. I think we could have the same thing in wings right now in Tyler Bray. Mike Vick may come free. He’s a better quarterback when healthy than Alex Smith is. I think Reid is too much of an offensive guru to be limited to five yard passes and a cloud of dust.

          • Danny W

            I think Smith stay’s on the football team, but I hope and pray they don’t sign him long term.

        • berttheclock

          er, Danny, they were able to have Chris Clark step up. Clark has been with the Broncos since being picked up in 2010. The difference between the Broncos and what Pioli left for Dorsey is depth. They had more offensive line depth. Marshall Faulk was a great RB. In fact, I was raving about him when he was at San Diego State. However, I could really care less what he thinks about anyone on the Chiefs. I am at the point where the so-called pundits mean very little. They are being well paid to generate entertainment. Few of them, I have found, engage in any homework and study. They just glance at stats and wing it on air. BTW, in the off season, the Broncos shored up their offensive line. Even after they lost their center, they filled his spot very quickly.

          • Danny W

            I’d call Don Steve, and Jeff Swartz some depth. A good quarterback makes everyone on offense better. I doubt Clark is anywhere near the left tackle Clady is but he’s looking fine anyway. That’s on Manning. I’m no Smith apologist or a Chiefs apologist but I’m a true fan this I promise.

        • micah stephenson

          I remember when Manning went to the broncos alot of people said they oline wud get Payton killied. What happen. All of a sudden the oline is fine. I bet if we put Alex on the broncos all of a suuden the oline and offense wud suck! But if we had Payton with this same oline the oline wud b fine.

      • berttheclock

        Once again, you make absolutely no sense. micah, there is still time. There are Continuing Education classes in your area. Try English 101 for a starter or even Bonehead English. Student loans might be a very good option, as well.

        • micah stephenson

          Still time for what??? Its been 4 preseason and 9 regular season games. Alex is getting worse as the season goes on. After we lose our next game, the excuses for alexs horrible play will cease.

      • kcpauly

        the bum is 28-5-1, which is better than ANY other QB in the league so spew your shit all you want Micah, but the bum wins, and 9-0 kind of proves that whether you like it or not
        Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!

        • micah stephenson

          I know. I know. He has been lucky enough to play on some good teams. That all u can really say good about him. He still ain’t shit.

        • micah stephenson

          I know Alex has been lucky enough to play on teams where he hasn’t been asked to do much. he has a good win loss record as of late becuase the rest of the team bails him out. I know about the win record but sell me on Alex Smith! Besides the win loss record (which I put 8 out of 9 wins on our defense) what do Alex bring to the table?

      • ladner morse

        So… Micah, you’re saying Brady or Rodgers or Brees would do just fine with this line?

        • micah stephenson

          Hell yea!!!! I believe rogers was the most sacked QB last yr and he cud still operate. P.Mannings pass completions % percent when being blitzed is around 70%. Alexs is down around 40%.

        • micah stephenson

          Yes. Matter fact if we had any of those QBs we wud b the favorites to win the superbowl, instead we have Alex so even @ 9-0 we are considered lucky/ a fraud.

  • elly violette

    I thought the Chiefs players were off this whole week. So, if they are going to make changes along the offensive line, it won’t happen until next Monday right?

    • Michael Shaw

      The way I understand it is that they are required to have at least 4 full days off during the bye. Should help them heal better.

      • elly violette

        Thank you…i didint know that!

      • berttheclock

        Yes, and they have to be consecutive with Saturday and Sunday included. Minor exception if the team is scheduled to return for a Thursday Night game.

      • ladner morse

        Yep… but I’m pretty sure they will all be back in full force on Monday.

  • Michael Shaw

    Great read as usual Laddie!! I think they should put Schwartz in for Allen and Stephenson in for Fisher. When Fisher got hurt the right side of the line, hell the line in general, seemed to be better with him in Fisher’s place. What do you think Addicts?

    • Danny W

      Aww hey now you cant point at a weakness in a chiefs uni with out the hater lable….

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL!! Funny as always Danny!!

  • Erik Hild

    I agree our offensive line needs help but now is not the time to change it. Don’t fix it if it isn’t broken.

    • elly violette

      So….. are you saying you think the offensive line is NOT broken? I think that was the point of what Morse was trying to say… if I didn’t misread him.

      • Erik Hild

        Yes I don’t think the offensive line is broken. Jeff Allen needs to be cut after this season but the chemistry the oline has through 9 games does not need to be messed with.

  • Blake Molina

    I’ve been wanting Schwartz to reach Allen for a while now, I’m with ya Laddie

    • elly violette

      It’s almost as if Andy Reid is afraid to let Allen become a second teamer because it will mean the beginning of the end of his career… so early in his career. You almost get the idea that Reid is ego invested making “his” line good… one his watch.

  • elly violette

    What about switching Stephenson for Fisher at RT and placing Fisher at LG next to Albert? Since Fisher already knows that side of the line he should be able to pick that up right away and Stephenson should be able to do better than Fisher has at the RT spot. Any takers???

    • ladner morse

      I think I like the idea of placing Schwartz at RT and moving Fisher to LG more simply because I see Schwartz as the next best lineman who isn’t starting right now AND he’s had RT experience.

    • ladner morse

      I think I like the idea of placing Schwartz at RT and moving Fisher to LG more simply because I see Schwartz as the next best lineman who isn’t starting right now AND he’s had RT experience.

    • micah stephenson

      Not a bad ideal. Anything to sure up the oline enough for it not to an excuse for why Alex sucks.