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Chiefs’ GM John Dorsey Makes Ridiculous Statement Saying Alex Smith Can Be A Top 10 QB


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General managers usually go above and beyond to hype their players, especially if said player was a high draft pick or was traded for.

It only makes sense, right? Not only is their reputation attached to how good that player can be, but they’re trying to sell said player to the fans. Whether it be the sale of jerseys or just hope, part of the job of being a general manager is to essentially be a cheerleader for your guys.

That’s why I’m not surprised that Chiefs’ general manager John Dorsey came out and said that he thinks Alex Smith can be a top ten quarterback in the NFL.

Yes, that’s right. He said that. Here’s the quote, according to Tom Pelissero of USA TODAY Sports:

I believe he can be a top-10 quarterback, and here’s why,” Dorsey told USA TODAY Sports recently.

“I think he’s got the athleticism. I think he’s got accuracy. I think he’s got really good reaction quickness. Once he gets comfortable with the offense, he reads defenses very well. I think the game’s slowed down for him.”

For the record, I do not disagree with Dorsey’s assessment of Smith’s talents. Some of you here on Arrowhead Addict refer to him as “Captain Checkdown.” In reality, that’s far from the truth.

Smith does bring a great amount of talent to the quarterback position. He’s accurate, has a good arm and his athleticism is extremely underrated. Smith can bootleg out of the pocket and hit receivers on the run, but can also take off and make something happen with his feet.

He is a former No. 1 overall draft pick, mind you, so it’s not as if he isn’t talented.

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Some Chiefs fans have been unfairly critical of No. 11, and I firmly believe that’s a fact. With that in mind, Dorsey may be stretching it saying that Smith can be a top ten quarterback in the NFL right now.

Can is the key word to focus on here, because it does give Dorsey somewhat of an out.

Can Smith be a top ten quarterback? Of course. He has the talent to do anything he wants as a quarterback.

In the same way though, can I become a millionaire? Sure thing. If I work hard enough and save, I suppose there’s a chance.

You see, if you’re remotely talented, stay out of trouble and work hard, you can do anything you want to in life.

Will you though?

That’s the better question.

The one factor that the word can seems to ignore is outside influences. In Smith’s case, he of course can be a top ten quarterback, but that statement clearly ignores the fact that the NFL is filled with many elite quarterbacks.

Off the top of my head here’s what I believe the top ten list would be heading into the 2013 season:

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. Tom Brady

3. Peyton Manning

4. Drew Brees

5. Ben Roethlisberger

6. Eli Manning

7. Joe Flacco

8. Matt Ryan

9. Colin Kaepernick

10. Andrew Luck

This is a list that doesn’t even include potentially elite quarterbacks whom I’d like to watch for one more season, Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson.

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Next, let’s talk about the NFL quarterbacks who are great, but may not be elite. We’re looking at a group that features Cam Newton, Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler and Philip Rivers.

If he has a good year, Smith has the potential to work his way into that second tier of quarterbacks, but even if he does, he wouldn’t be top ten in the league.

Look, I’ve been very open about the fact that I think Smith is the quarterback who can lead this Chiefs team into the future. I like the fact that he’s a smart passer, and he’s much more physically gifted than he gets credit for.

With the right offensive weapons around him, the Chiefs will be a dangerous draw in 2013. For the record, I do believe Kansas City will make a splash this season in the NFL.

Smith is going to be a huge reason why, but to say he can be a top 10 quarterback in the NFL is a bit ridiculous.

What do you think, Addicts? Sound off below.

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  • Jason Seibel

    I wouldn’t list Kaepernick as top 10. Other than that, your list is pretty accurate.

    • Andrew Kulha

      He’s just soo talented and explosive. I know a lot of that has to do with scheme. I was really struggling with 8-10 and then the few after. Could really be interchangeable.

      • tnafam

        Cam Newton should be in his place. Look at how crappy his team is.

    • JLKC355

      I personally don’t think Kaep has proved anything yet essentially he was a great backup that got a shot to play during what would be his rookie year. Although he played well for half a season Cassel did it for one whole season ( I know I said the C-word) I’m not saying he won’t be great but let’s wait until he proves it. I like the fact that AS11 has 7yrs of experience and based on his production before his injury and lost his starting job he was right in the top ten last year.

    • tnafam

      Yea Kaepernick is talented and explosive….so is Russell Wilson and RG3. You didn’t include them in the list, you shouldn’t include Kaepernick in the list. Putting a QB that only played 10 games and threw 10 tds and 3 ints in the Top 10 with elite QBs is beyond overrated.

    • 44WinMag

      On the Advanced NFL Statistics web site you’ll see that Last season the 49ers YAC accounted for 46.7% of passing yards under Alice Smiff; Kaep came in and instantly dropped it down to 33.5%. Kaep made the 49ers a more explosive and dangerous offensive team to defend. Kaep > Alice Smiff.

  • tm1946

    Smith has the potential to be a top ten QB, with the right coaching, think they have that, and a stud filled OL, to young today, and dominant running game, Charles is not chopped liver just one of the best in the league, and WRs, who catch everything thrown in their direction and can run thru walls, Bowe and …….
    So Smith might be that good but the pieces are not in place yet.

    • Andrew Kulha

      I agree that he has tremendous potential. I just think we can’t overlook some of the other great QB’s out there.

  • Priest4Prez

    Here’s a thought: One would argue that throwing for 30-35 TD’s in a season does not make one a great QB but in the NFL we all watch today; scoring that many TD’s through the air is essential to keeping up in wins. Maybe Alex throws for 26 and runs for another 6, I would be okay with that. It shows he has the ability to score when he gets near the end zone. I don’t see Alex as a 4,000 yard passing QB; maybe 3200-3300 with an Andy Reid offense. Can he show an excellent understanding of the offense and weapons around him is my question. This should be an exciting season; when was the last time you heard INTELLIGENT QB PLAY come out of Kansas City? This year!! Go Chiefs!!!

    • micah stephenson

      Alex has never thrown over 20 tds in a season and doubt he starts now

      • Blaze

        Just because he’s never thrown 20 tds in a season doesn’t mean he can’t. I would bet he throws 20-25.

  • Chris Tarrants

    Food for thought. Would you prefer a qb who throws 40 td’s with 20 picks or a qb who throws 28 td’s with 5 picks? Elite is thrown around too much these days. If he can lead us into the post season and even put a ring on his finger in the process ” sorry not a Pioli jab” then he will be elite in the eyes of every chiefs fans! I don’t care what people say about the mannings or Brady or big Ben, in the end what matters is how he leads this team. Oh and for a side note other than Eli the rest of the guys I mentioned are old as shit and starting to slide down the aging slope

    • scomstock55

      I will take the 40/20….

      • Chris Tarrants

        Then you sir are an idiot lol

    • micah stephenson

      Alex Smith a Never thrown more than 20 tds in a season. 17 tds/9 ints is wat he will do this yr. Smith will b 30 yrs old this yr.

    • Justin R Groth

      17 td and 5 int in 2011 would be smith as compared to Brett Favre (that’s who I thought of with th whol 40/20numbers) who had fefew 30+ td and around 15 int give or take. However can you say that you would take Smith over vintage Favre? Don’t take this as an attack its just I would be ecstatic if Smith were to add ten touchdowns without adding any interceptions. However 2011 was his BEST year for him so I would say his ceiling is 20 TDs..

  • Daniel Alvarado

    but u list colin Kaepernick

  • Roc

    Please let kaepernick complete a full season before putting him on a list with elite qb’s, otherwise I think your list is very accurate with Luck possibly moving into the top 3

    • Jason Seibel

      I would say the same thing about Luck. Let’s see what happens in the sophomore slump season…

    • tnafam

      Way too soon to be talking about Luck moving into top 3. As long as Aaron Rodger, Tom Brady, Brees and Peyton is still in the league, he won’t get pass them.

  • Calchiefsfan

    One could easily argue that Smith is already a better QB than any of your second tier QBs. So yes, I believe he could be a top ten if he continues to improve this year. In a good year Smith could overcome the likes of Eli Manning, Flacco, Ryan and Kaep. Especially Manning and Flacco who are inconsistent and Kaep hasn’t played long enough at a high level to warrant a top ten ranking. It is more plausible though that Smith could move into that category next year, once he gets comfortable with this offense.

    • Jason Seibel

      And don’t get me started about Rivers.

      • Calchiefsfan

        Let me get you started. Did you see him play against Arizona? He looked terrible. I really believe he’s lost it. I never thought he was elite because he didn’t have the mental maturity to be put in that category even though he used to have the skills. Now he’s not even top 15.

    • Justin R Groth

      I agree with you about keap however a similar argument could be used against Alex couldn’t it?

      • Calchiefsfan

        Yes you could but 1 1/2 years of solid play is a better sample than half a season. Don’t get me wrong, I think Kaep is a stud and will probably be in the elite category. Just not quite yet.
        If Andy Reid pushes Smith to develop a long ball and target his wide receivers more than that will be enough to put him in the top ten. Bowe and Smith will be good for each other.

        • Justin R Groth

          Yea its better however I want/need more. At this point we don’t know who Alex is. His career stats scream mediocre, his 2012 showed some one who was good at high percentage throws, 2011 really messes things up because he put up a lousy 17 td but an outstanding int %. Not to mention in 2011 he was sacked more than any other QB I believe (will double check) with 44, also he was on par for another ridiculous sack number in 2012 behind whatseveral people called an elite line. Right now I put Alex in themiddle of the pack. Keap (logically) would be considered better than Alex as he took the ojob from him.

  • Michael Coffey

    Alex Will Be A top Ten Quarterback !!!!!

  • Shawn Duce

    Kaepernick has a handful of games under his belt,pump the brakes on the top ten and IMHO AS11 is in that 2nd tier of NFL QB’s as long as your throwing Cam and Romo in there

    • Suzi Conger

      agree with you Shawn

  • oldchiefsfan

    I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he could be somewhere in that list about 6 or 7. In my opinion it’s a bit premature to be putting Kaepernick in that list yet. Defenses have had time now to see him and to begin game planning for him. To be clear are we talking about Top 10 in the past or Top 10 now? Because nobody knows who will be in the Top 10 this year. Nobody can foresee injuries etc…. I’m going to go out on a limb and say I actually would be surprised to see Peyton Manning make it through the season.

    • Danny W

      He’s not even close to six or seven Sir, respectively. Honestly besides those on the list RG3 his back up Kirk Cousins, and Russell Wilson are better than Smith. I’m not saying he’s going to be a bad quarterback but he’s not elite.

    • Suzi Conger

      agree with you ocf…good clarification questions and points made…

  • jimfromkcj

    Guys, I said before he was drafted that Kaep could come on the Chiefs and start immediately. I still think he could have. Alex was just good enough to play ahead of him, but Harbaugh saw the tremendous potential in him that I did and made him the starter. Another QB that I think would have come in and started for the Chiefs was Weeden. He came in and started for the Browns and won 5 games his rookie year and threw for over 3000 yards. That was with a rookie running back with broken ribs and surgery on his knee in pre season. His top defensive CB missed the first 4 games and his top def lineman was out for over half the season and he also had a rookie RT. And to top it off a lot of the fickle Browns fans wanted to keep Colt McCoy as the starter and draft Geno Smith. I also said before the draft that I didn’t want the Chiefs to draft Geno or any QB. I suggested we either trade for Matt Moore or Alex Smith and buld up the team on the off and def lines and get our franchise QB in the next 2 or 3 drafts. If we had drafted to make the def and off lines really good, we could have traded a whole draft for that guy we wanted to lead us to a super bowl.

  • KChiefs

    Throwing the ball to protect a receiver from injury is an important and often overlooked aspect. How does Smith do here?

    • Justin R Groth

      I know one pass that he did really well at this but Kelce couldn’t adjust and pull in the catch.

  • Suzi Conger

    Agree with John Dorsey….but AS cannot accomplish yardage, TD’s, Wins without our OL improving protection dramatically….I believe AReid that the OL will gel ( soon, I hope lol ) and give better protection.
    Consider KC-PITT PS game; AS11 = 71% completion% 1 TD Ran 38 yd
    BenR = 68% completion% 1 TD Both QB’s = similar yardage
    Big Difference: AS11 only had 2 min of good OL protection that afforded the time to make good plays/open receivers
    BTW: Realize it’s pre-season, yet AS11 is the most sacked/pressured/rushed starting QB in nfl at present / CD is the highest s/r/press. 2nds QB
    AS was the #1 nfl rated QB at the time of his ’12 concussion, and at season end AS was #3 nfl QB, superior to ck7

    • 44WinMag

      Already making excuses for happy footed Alice Smiff? LOL!

      • Suzi Conger

        O you must mean the 38 yd run ‘happy foot’ AS11 accomplished?

        Just stating facts from pff, nfl and several other knowledgable educated sources…OMG,,,I forgot that you know more than JD, AR, DP, NFL, PFF, JC, DB, et al……LOL
        Just can’t resist your childish name-calling, can you? That’s ok, you just keep demonstrating your immaturity

        • 44WinMag

          I’ll gotta admit that 38 yd run was further than any ball he threw. LOL!

          • Suzi Conger

            There you go again…displaying an ignorant statement…. LOL

    • micah stephenson

      when Matt Cassel got sacked it was because he held onto the ball too long now when Alex gets sacked its because the o-line sucks

      • Suzi Conger

        As usual, you are unable to comprehend the English language micah; I’ll let you see if you can figure out what I said

    • Justin R Groth

      Big bens O line was not doing well at all that game Ben was running for his life and making things happen.

      • Suzi Conger

        Making excuses for BR? ….sad… what do you think AS11′s great 38 yd run was; he was running from a sack.. you know, ‘making ‘bigger’ things happen”…. AS11 and CD10 win the first place award this pre-season for the highest sacks/pressure/rushed QB’s in the nfl…but I do have faith it will get better; hopefully, at least 15th-ish, man 0 man, just think what Smith will be able to do Go Chiefs!

        (nearly everybody knows and professionals have stated, that our OLine didn’t protect til the last 2 min. of 2nd qrtr)

        • Justin R Groth

          No im pointing out that you claim that our Oline has been bad so that is why alex hasn’t impressed so I pointed out that Big Ben’s line has been equally of not MORE bad than you claim our teams line has been. Yet Big Ben put up the numbers you say that Alex needs a good Oline for. What I said wasn’t an attack on Alex just pointing out that good players do good even in bad situations.

    • Blaze

      You need to quit abbreviating and write your words out. It drives people nuts!

      • Suzi Conger

        Speak for yourself Blaze… so, don’t look at it :-)

  • Randy5k

    Interesting list of the elite, how can anyone think that Smith wont soon overtake Mannings eroding talents? Flacco, Ryan are not that elite, Brees is inconsistent. Not such a crazy statement. Kaep hasn’t proven squat.

    • Pessimisticchiefsfan

      Brees is inconsistent lol. What some games he doesn’t throw 400 just 350

    • Justin R Groth

      I would say top 5 would be elite top ten would be really good 10-15 good 16-20 serviceable, under 20 probably looking for replacement

  • 44WinMag

    Alice Smiff isn’t even a top 20 QB.

  • Danny W

    Smith would have to improve his touchdowns, and take a heck of lot fewer sacks than what he does. Rich Gannon was no Drew Brees but he could be mobile and get the ball in the right spot to make him a super bowl MVP. I think if Smith can play on his feet, and hit the open guy he could get into that second tier. Which honestly may just be good enough.

  • Theyjusttraceme

    You must have just googled “top 10 QBs” and listed the first one

    • Justin R Groth

      Actually the first one has Shaub instead of keap

  • Michael Knowles

    Joe Flacco wasn’t on anyone’s top ten list a year ago. It can be amazing the difference a year makes. I’m on the Smith bandwagon (albeit a small bandwagon). I think his solid offensive weapons, good offensive line protection, and weak schedule will give him every opportunity he needs to make the cut in the majority of top ten quarterback statistical categories in 2013.

    • Suzi Conger

      Michael not so small (AS supporters)… this particular site and a couple ‘writers’ in particular invite the ‘smith mythology haters’….just look at the title; extremely negative, belittling and derogatory towards Chief’s GM. There are many other sites and professional writers with good journalistic skills that agree with John Dorsey , JCharles, DBowe, AReid, Pederson ( to name a just few) regarding AS11′s QB skills …
      Many people and sport writers agree with you…CHIEFS!!

  • micah stephenson

    WTF!!!! Captain Checkdown is in the BOTTOM TEN QBS.

    • Lewis Rigor

      You sir are so lame. Go back to your basement and hate on yourself

    • Justin R Groth

      Come on Micah you can admit he is a middle of Tue pack guy not a bottom feeder like ponder or Sanchez.

      • micah stephenson

        Yea he ain’t the worst but not the best. He just about as avg as a QB can be. He hella avg.

  • ArrowFan

    Smith is already in that second tier if one looks at his last two seasons. I follow most NFL news for all teams primarily the Chiefs but the NFL in general gets a fair share of my attention. Over the years AS11 has been some what of a paradox. I can’t tell you how many HC’s and OC’s he had to deal with in SF. However I do remember everyone one of them that took over, was first pressured to cut AS11 and go with someone else. However not only did he survive but every one of them eventually when the dust settled in camp would give him a glowing endorsement of praise (same as Dorsey). This is the paradox I can’t think of any other QB to survive multiple leadership transfers the way he has. I’m happy we have him and if he doesn’t work out then I have no doubt that Dorsey and Reid will replace him before save our Chiefs is started up again.

    • Justin R Groth

      I say Alex is in the 13-17 range who has the potential, if he can prove he can read and point out blitzes.

      • Suzi Conger

        Geeez justin.. pleeeez go get educated on the ‘blitz pick’ thing… I pulled up pff, nfl coaching tape and AReid info that TOTALLY refutes your completely inaccurate statement re/ our QB’s ‘ability to call blitz picks’ BTW; according to NFL, AS11 was ranked top #1 of all QB’s for calling blitz picks.
        PS. AReid was quoted ” a couple (2) blitzes were well hidden and not seen by the QB (AS) but the majority the OL did not hold-up ” (and got run-over)

    • Suzi Conger

      Well said AF… ARogers said the same, ” I couldn’t do it (survive a new coach and playbook every year)” http://www.usatoday.com AS was the #1 nfl rated QB at the time of his concussion, and at ’12 season-end was #3 QB (ck7 was ranked/rated only 16th, he is flashy)

  • Lewis Rigor

    For all you HATERS you show just how lame and how low your football IQ is. I being a former 9ers supporter of 40 yrs and now support the Chiefs and AS11 have seen this man grow through the most backwards system that was the 9ers. All those on your top 10 would have had the same results in their first 7 years. Also let us not forget that Aron Rodgers came out publicly to support Alex and eluded to the same assesment. So you lame idiots who continue to hate and throw Aron Rodgers as elite take it from Aron himself and STFU

    • Suzi Conger

      Supremely Well-Said!! CHIEFS!!

  • Cam Davis

    Wow, you must be watching NFL games in a parallel universe if you rank Eli Manning over Alex Smith. When Dorsey says top 10, you need a standard to measure by. QBR, Alex will be up there. Popular opinion? By the end of the playoffs, yeah. He will pass for over 20 TD and we will make the playoffs. Wait and see.

    • Justin R Groth

      Sorry but two superbowl wins over none.

    • Suzi Conger

      Agree with you Cam; how many of those top and second tier QB’s have SB wins?…( it’s pretty funny as ck7/SF has a SB Loss; directly linked to his 54+-% completion rate and RedZone ”strong-arm’ Over-Throw Failure, (same as his last play KC vs SF game 2 )… At present, ck7 is a ‘B” at most; OL protection = A, DL = A , receivers = A…

      Can’t remember is EM/NYG even made PO”s last year??
      I trust AReid, JDorsey, JCharles,DBowe, Pederson, to name a few, way ‘above/before’ some of these uneducated slams Go Chiefs!!!

  • Jamesvic

    Alex Smith was a top 10 QB last year. The fantasy football really ruins a person’s perceptions of what makes a good QB.

    In the list above- Alex Smith is a better QB than Rothlisberger, Ryan, and Luck. I would also argue that for 2013- he is a better QB than Peyton Manning. (Manning didn’t look that hot late in the season last year)

    I do think Russel is a better qb – and RG3 is going to be questionable until we can see him playing on his broken knees (I think RG3′s career is going to be VERY short lived).

    Fact is- Alex Smith is reaching his prime- he is a drew brees/rich gannon type player (one who took some years to season) Watch for the Chiefs to win the AFC west outright this year and make it to the AFC championship game.

    • Justin R Groth

      NFL, CBS, FOX, ESPN all of them have one thing in common none of them ranked Alex better than 16 (NFL.com). I’m sorry however no body, I mean NO BODY agrees with you. Another thing most teams wouldn’t trade their QB for Alex, it’s not mean it’s just true, some of those teams include the Steelers, Colts, Redskings, Seahawks, (sadly) the Broncos. Hell I bet that Cincy is just fine having Dalton over Smith.

    • Suzi Conger

      Jamesvic, thank you for your insight and opinions. Many knowledgeable football fans agree with you..I agree with you .. but most importantly AReid, JDorsey, DPederson, Alex’s teammates, et al know he’s a SB quality (JCharles quote) QB. A good example in support of your opinion is the Pitt/KCC preseason, 1 vs 1′s .. AS11 = 71% pass completion, 1 TD 38 yd rush / BenR = 68% pass completion, 1 TD CHIEFS!!

  • erocks49ers

    Smith was ranked in the top 10 last year before he was benched So it is not inconceivable for him to make the top 10 this year with a pass friendly offense. He’ll have better stats then Roethisberger, Luck and Kaeperknick. Yes I said Kaeperknick.

  • Juan Bermudez

    Alex is not top ten but he is definitley better than Romo or Cutler…come on man!