Should Chiefs Offer Tony Moeaki To Patriots?

Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

The Kansas City Chiefs have invested heavily in the TE position and as the team works its way through training camp,GM John Dorsey may want to consider dangling some trade bate in TE Tony Moeaki.

The thought comes from Bill Williamson of ESPN.com:

I am a big believer in Moeaki, who has been hampered by injuries. I’m not sure the new Kansas City regime is courting on Moeaki. Anthony Fasano was signed in the offseason and Travis Kelce was drafted in third round. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Chiefs could get something in return for Moeaki and they’d feel comfortable rolling forward with Fasano and Kelce.

Obviously, the New England Patriots are having some troubles at the TE position at the moment.

While I am all for the Chiefs being opportunistic with disposable assets, I am not sure Tony Moeaki is disposable just yet. He had a very good rookie season and though it took him some time, he improved near the end of last season after coming back from a serious knee injury. Remember that Eric Berry was horrible at the beginning of last season as well. Everyone heals differently and it seemed to take Eric and Tony, each of whom had only had one full NFL season, to get their confidence back. Veteran Jamaal Charles, as we know, was a different story. Still, even Charles said he didn’t feel 100% until later in the season.

I think Moeaki can and will be a good player for the Chiefs if he can stay on the field. I believe that the new regime is wisely being careful by not counting on Moeaki. That is why the signing of Fasano and drafting of Kelce was wise.

But trading Moeaki at his current value, would not be smart.

The Chiefs would be in terrific shape going into the season with Kelce, Fasano and Moeaki on the roster.

And I think that is what they will do.

Topics: Kansas City Chiefs, Tony Moeaki

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  • sean g

    I think we should keep him, because with our luck, we’ll probably have injury problems at TE if we trade him. Can never be too deep..

    • scomstock55

      yes, you can be too deep…but you can never have too many draft picks

      • Michael Shaw

        Well said. There is the un-drafted rookie free agent that is wooing people in camp as well.

  • Arrowhead Magic

    I say we wait until preseason. This way we can see what we still have in Moeaki. If he looks good but not necessarily needed and the Patriots look shorthanded then we can see what we can get. And if nothing happens then that’s fine too, we’ll just have really good depth at the TE position.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Totally agree. I doubt the Patriots would offer more than a 4th for him, so I can only really get behind trading him if it’s that or cutting him. Having three good two-way TE’s is not a bad thing. If nothing else, it adds a lot of good bulk to special teams.

      • P Heitman

        Also agree. If it looks like he’s a goner, get something. If we get mediocre offers, keep him.

    • scomstock55

      good point…I like that idea too

  • GDL40

    Keep him . DO NOT help the Patriots ! ……besides, what would we get for him? Not much, and most TE’s would flourish on that system, they have a great system there and thats why I think most players there are overrated….so lets not give them any help !

  • micah stephenson

    Hell yea we shud trade him and Alex Smith and all of next yrs draft picks for Tom Brady. Just playing lol.

    • ArrowFan

      You mean for BB right?

      • micah stephenson

        Ill take him too! :-):-):-):-):-):-)

  • Calchiefsfan

    We need 3 solid tight ends. Keep him! I want to see what Moeaki can do with a good QB and system. He just might be a star.

    • scomstock55

      we wont see anything from him if he isnt on the field….dude gets hurt too much

    • scomstock55

      once kelce and fasano hit the field…moeaki will be an afterthought…not to mention the awesome potential of Demetrius

      • Calchiefsfan

        Moeaki did play all 16 games last year and had more production than Fasano.

        • KCMikeG

          Thank you for your rational thoughts. Moeaki will be the starter.

          • Troy Utt

            I’m kind of under the impression… Why possibly extend help to the Pat’s at this point when we could be witnessing the demise of the “Brady Era!” I believe this season is already taking a much larger toll on him than we realize… and I see no point in giving him any help that could possibly help to resurrect it!!! WAR CHIEFS!!!

    • KCMikeG

      Sit back and enjoy the show!

  • berttheclock

    Bill Williamson of ESPN AFC West just wrote that Denver may dangle Dreesen in front of BB. My opinion would depend upon what the Pats would give up for him. Considering the basket ball youngin’ may not last should JD put him on the taxi squad, having him stay behind Fasano and Kelce might make more sense, especially, if the Pats would give up some value. As was noted in this past draft having extra picks in the lower rounds can be a blessing.

  • Jarad

    I say NO. The Chiefs wont get much value and if he stays healthy, they just gave a top contender a much needed weapon. Plus, if the Chiefs wanna run 2 TE sets, i think they need 3 decent TEs to do so. 1 injury would really hurt that position.

  • berttheclock

    The agent for Dallas Clark may be very busy trying to reach BB, this AM. Fan Sided New England with Josh Sanchez is covering this from their perspective. JS states BB has not been reluctant to give up lower draft choices for a need, but, as one poster mentioned, there are still FAs, such as Dallas Clark, out there.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    If they want him, absolutely! He’s not going to stay healthy. Cut your losses and get a draft pick out of him.

    • ladner morse

      I’m with you on this one Stacy.

      The trade we’re talking about is likely to be a draft pick next year. The question then becomes… which round.

      1st Round- absolutely… but never gonna happen.
      2nd Round- oh yea… but not gonna happen either.
      3rd Round- this would be the goal. It would be great to get what the Chiefs invested back out (3rd round pick in 2010- 93rd pick overall).
      4th Round- doable.
      5th Round- Chiefs should not even consider it.

      Since the Chiefs have no 2nd Rounder next year (because of the Alex Smith trade), it would be a good idea to stock pile some picks, even if they are later round picks, then trade back up into the 2nd. 2nd Rounders are picks that truly help to build an organization for the long haul. Many times they are as good as a first rounder but much less at the bank.

      • Jarad

        Of course you trade him if you’re going to get a pick in the first 3 rounds, but Cassel has a better chance to make Pro bowl starter than that happening. So in my opinion, a 4th is the best case scenario. And its likely to be a late 4th. And arent the Chiefs working on 2 TE sets? If so, id think a solid 3rd TE is more valuable than a late 4th.

        • ladner morse

          Jarad, what the Chiefs can do is double-dip on the Pats by waiting to see who they cut from their TE list and then sign that player. Yes, they’ll likely be developmental but, you have to take into consideration that Moeaki has only been available to appear in 62% of the games played since he was drafted in 2010.

          • Jarad

            If this is a trade trade now scenario, im very hesitant. Its a little knee jerk for me. There is no reason to doubt any moves by Reid or Dorsey up to this point, but if the goal is to win playoff games, im not sure this helps the Chiefs. Id actually lean towards it helping NE more.

          • ladner morse

            If we could “be sure” that Moeaki was going to help I would love to keep him. But, if he keeps having injury issues… and you may recall he had injury issues when he came to the Chiefs From Iowa… then he won’t be helping the Pats either. I loved him coming out of college but, his love affair with the IR list is disturbing. I guess that’s what I’m saying… since he has developed a bit of a risk factor… I’d favor getting something back for him. Also, since this regime isn’t the one that drafted him…….. there may be a chance it happens… although I’ve heard nothing of the kind.

          • Jarad

            I agree on the health issue. Its a major Problem. I guess the winner/loser of this hypothetical trade all comes down to how many games he plays. Im pribably just skeptical because with the Chiefs luck, they’ll trade him to NE and he’ll make the pro bowl fter helping NE beat KC in the first round of the playoffs. Ha

          • KCMikeG

            My fear also! So why take the risk when we know what he can be? If he gets hurt again we still have Fasano & Kelce.

          • KCMikeG

            With the depth we have at the position doesn’t it make more sense to gamble on what we know he can do when healthy over another 3rd or a 4th round pick? If he stays healthy then he helps one of the more consistent challengers in the AFC. Also to be considered is why exactly, with all the chaos (Hernandez) and injury/surgery issues with (Gronk), would they want an IR risk in Moeaki?

          • ladner morse

            So you’re comfortable questioning why NE would want him… but not comfortable questioning why the Chiefs should want him?

          • KCMikeG

            What I’m saying is if it is such a wise move for us to trade him because we are more concerned about his health than the value of his potential then why would NE not think the same way especially with the problems they are already having? I’m also saying with our depth it is less of a risk for us to keep him and hope for the record breaking performance he showed us in 2010 than it is for NE who don’t have the safety net we do at TE.

          • Billie Cabral

            Right, LOL

          • Chief Hokie

            Completely agree

          • Troy Utt

            Did Moeaki ever wind up practicing during OTA’s or is he OUT until training camp as previous reports stated? I assume he is still scheduled or on pace to return this summer???

          • KCMikeG

            He didn’t practice. Word is that they are not going to risk working him while his knee heals from the scope. He is on track to participate when camp starts which is a big improvement from last year when he was held back and put hundreds of miles on the bikes. If healthy he will be a game changer and our #1 starting TE.

        • KCMikeG

          Couldn’t be more right! Moeaki will be the starter.

      • jimfromkcj

        Lad, didn’t Moaeki cost us an extra pick for moving up into the third round?

        • ladner morse

          Houston traded the 93rd pick it got from Minnesota to Kansas City for a fourth-round pick…102nd overall which Houston used to select Darryl Sharpton… and a fifth-round pick K.C. had gotten from Carolina…144th overall which Houston used to take selected Sherrick McManis.

      • Chief Hokie

        No way we get anything more than a fifth for a guy who had a good rookie season but has been plagued by injuries throughout his entire career. So it’s just not worth it.

    • Billie Cabral

      Agree 100%. He was hurt all the time in college and so far in the Nfl. If we still had Leonard Pope and another nobody than yes roll the dice and keep him but we are pretty set. TAKE THE PICK if it is good value. Don’t get me wrong I like Moeaki and he has potential, unfortunately he can not stay healthy!

  • thabear04

    Why would we want to trade him the Pats have

    Rob Gronkowski
    Daniel Fells
    Jake Ballard
    Michael Hoomanawanui
    Brandon Ford Rookie most likly practice squad
    Zach Sudfeld Rookie probably wont make the team

    • scomstock55

      because we dont need him and he is better, when healthy, than all but one of these guys

  • drtold

    No! We are not giving the Patriots anybody! Pioli has left the building!

  • ArrowFan

    A team needs at least three good TEs if they plan on any double TE formations as part of the base Offense.

    • Jarad

      I keep saying the exact same thing! And i dont see anything more than a late 4th in compensation AT BEST

  • ladner morse

    Patriots don’t need any TEs. They’ve got Tebow.

    • berttheclock

      Suggest a rim shot with that

    • Billie Cabral

      HA HA HA. They also need a lot of prayers. Thank goodness the downfall of the Pat’s is finally here. Tom Brady may have to retire after all these shananagans!

    • Michael Shaw

      And the joke of the day goes to………………………………..Ladner!!!

  • stephan costa

    We might have the best t.e. corp in the NFL. Keep him and run multiple t.e. sets all year.T.e. is a qb’s best friend. Especially Alex. I love how this off season is setting up. I can’t wait to see this team on the field!

  • scomstock55

    yep..made the same comment a few days ago…BEFORE the arrest…it would be a good move

  • micah stephenson

    Hell yea. Cut the losses short and get a 3rd or 4th rd pick for him. Stick Kelce in thur wit Fasano as the back up till they upgrade.

    • Jarad

      That is optimism at its highest. I cant see a 3rd even entering the convo

    • Michael Shaw

      With his injury history I wouldn’t mind a 5th or 6th. Anything might help us get more depth or give us ammo next year to trade up into round 2 where we won’t have a pick, I hope anyway!!

  • e_racer

    The Chiefs will know something about their tight end situation in a few weeks. I like what I see from Harris, but he hasn’t put on pads. Tony Moeaki had his knee scoped, and he should be healthy for camp. I think the Chiefs were being extremely cautious with Moeaki this spring. It would do nothing for the Chiefs if Tony Moeaki went down with a freak injury during meaningless OTA practices.

    I think Moeaki is a viable option, but the Chiefs are in a position where they don’t have to give in to demands. If the Pats extend a charitable offer, then the Chiefs would have to consider it. I don’t think it will happen, but you never know.

  • Troy Utt

    Keep Him!!! Hernandez in cuffs, Gronk out w/surgery again, Welker gift-wrapped to Manning that has Kraft now wondering about a RE-DO! LOL about a Tebow signing that now looks to possibly be their most compelling, as NE is going to need a spiritual advisor before week one!

  • Travis Forsyth

    keep him.

  • Rich Cooper

    Trading him now would be stupid in my opinion. Knee jerk reactions were the specialty of the previous regime. Lets see if he is healthy enough to get on the field. No one will offer even remote value before then anyway. Helping the Pats should be capital punishment after all the help we received from them and their castoffs over the past few years.

    • KCMikeG

      Or maybe this is an attempt for some revenge??

      • Billie Cabral

        Indeed!

    • Billie Cabral

      Stupid is, is stupid does! If we pawn off someone that is good for 50% of the time it would help us and hurt them + we are pretty set at the position!

  • RepOurChiefs

    I still believe in big Moe, so Im going to see what he brings next . Though hampered by injury yes but his athleticism cant be denied. He has performed so…goMoe!

  • Billie Cabral

    I like the thought. Value is perception though. Your value may be totally different than the Pats or another team, unless I’m missing something here? People are drafted based on potential and I think the ceiling for Moeaki is high and the Pats may also. I think as a business decision it would be wise to try to get a 2nd-3rd rounder or better for Moeaki. We have two really good tight ends and there is a buzz about the UFA ex college basketball player we have. We don’t need 4 TE’s and Moeaki’s mostly proved to be injury prone thus, a perfect replacement for Hernandez, lol!

  • RepOurChiefs

    Why are my comments being deleted?

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