October 07, 2012; Kansas City, MO, USA; Baltimore Ravens wide receiver Anquan Boldin (81) attempts a catch as Kansas City Chiefs defensive back Javier Arenas (21) defends in the second quarter at Arrowhead Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

Three Reasons Why Chiefs Fans Should Be Fine With Trading Javier Arenas


As most of you know by now, today the Kansas City Chiefs traded away cornerback Javier Arenas to the Arizona Cardinals for fullback Anthony Sherman.

This news seems to have sent many in the Chiefs Kingdom into a frenzy.

I’m here to tell you why this trade is no big deal and certainly not something that anyone should be outraged over.

1. Javier Arenas was going to get cut.

This is the number one reason everyone needs to just take a deep breath and calm down. The fact that Arenas is a “more valuable” player than a fullback in most people’s eyes doesn’t really matter in this situation. KC has MILLIONS of dollars locked up in their top three CBs. They weren’t going to pay a guy over a million dollars to be the #4 CB when their cap space is tight right now. It wasn’t EVER going to happen. I understand that Arenas still has value, but so did Eric Winston and the Chiefs didn’t get “diddly poo” for him. The Chiefs have younger and cheaper options to fill the 4th/5th CB spots with. Guys like Jalil Brown and DeQuan Menzie are cheaper options and provide fine depth especially when you have three starting CBs already in Flowers, Smith, and Robinson.

2. The Chiefs will NOT be worse off on the field this season because of this trade.

Since Arenas was destined to be a cap casualty the Chiefs aren’t worse off for making this deal. It’s better to have a player that at least has a shot at making the roster in Sherman than a player that didn’t. Other teams know this, that’s why NO team was going to offer KC big returns for Arenas because they could all see the writing on the wall too. If Sherman ends up being the starting FB this season then the Chiefs actually improved their roster by making this deal. I understand that Arenas was an average nickel corner and return man, but he wasn’t going to see the field over the three corners that they are paying big money to. So KC isn’t losing out on his play at CB. There’s also the legit possibility that one of the young corners on the roster will play every bit as well as Arenas has (or better) if given the opportunity and Arenas had not lived up to his expectations as a return man.

3. This trade indicates that KC is likely keeping Branden Albert this season.

The easiest way KC could have cleared plenty of cap space was to deal Albert. Moving Albert would have cleared enough money to sign draft picks, pay your fourth CB over a million dollars, and have money left over to sign a few more free agents. The fact that they dealt Arenas this quickly after the draft tells me they may have already decided that they are keeping Albert for one more season. That means they will have two top caliber tackles to protect Alex Smith and open up holes for Jamaal Charles. Given the choice of having to deal Albert to afford guys like Arenas or dealing guys like Arenas to keep Albert, I think it’s clear that keeping Albert makes KC better this season.

So there you have it Addicts, I know the trade looks bad at first glance, but it’s really not a big deal. This is the business of football. You want to know how big of deal this trade is. It’s already been bumped off Pro Football Talk’s home page, it never made the ESPN home page, and even on the ESPN NFL page, it’s currently the 8th story down underneath stories about the Redskins name, a 49ers UFA, and the weather at EJ Manuel’s Bills workout, and this is just a few hours after the trade happened. We care because it’s our team and we tend to over value our players and in this case because we’re mad that the pick we got for Tony Gonzalez didn’t pan out. The rest of the league doesn’t see this as a big deal and neither should you.

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    I’m not sure I agree with any of this. Why are we convinced that Arenas wouldn’t have made the roster? Neither Smith or Robinson are ideal for Nickel. Commings is going to play Free Safety. Arenas has held his spot on the depth chart over the Menzie’s of this roster. How do we know (in May) he wasn’t going to make the team?

    I can wrap my head around this being a cap move exclusively, but I don’t at all understand the suggestion that he wouldn’t have made the final roster.
    Are we sure that Sherman will make the roster? DiMarco played brilliant football in spot duty last season. Braden Wilson is now also in the fold. I’m not convinced that he’s better than the both of them. I’m convinced Arenas is better than Menzie and Brown though.

    I’m not going to lose sleep over this. This isn’t the starting Cornerback spot we’re talking about. It’s the philosophy of this kind of deal that bugs me. Trading players away, in May, as a cap measure (that saves you less than $100,000) strikes me as imprudent. Just saying…

    • cd3382

      I agree with you about DiMarco, he did play very well this past season. However, I do think Robinson can play the nickel but not Smith. You didn’t see any upside with Jalil Brown?

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Robinson won’t keep up with smaller, faster receivers. He’s better suited for Free Safety. Brown hasn’t shown me much. Not enough to move away from a better football player in Arenas.

      • Trent Taylor

        Smith and Robinson outside, Flowers covering the slot in those situations.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Potentially pitting Robinson against a team’s #1 WR? No thanks.

          • Trent Taylor

            There’s always the potential for a number one receiver lining up.against a db other than our.number one..

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            Denver’s #1 receiver (in terms of receptions) next year is going to be Wes Welker in the slot. Other teams will be approaching us the same way. I believe in putting the players were their talents are best suited. Robinson and Smith are best on the outside, Flowers can do anything.

    • Norman Gunn

      I would bet Arenas gave up the most receptions of all of our DB’s the past two seasons. He rarely showed flashes of a defensive play maker. Considering we need 3.5 mil to fit everyone under the cap the Arenas move doesn’t surprise me. Who would’ve been a smarter cut? Kuddos that we got something in return.

      • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

        First, this move saved about $75K on the cap. It saves $630K by getting rid of Arenas, but Sherman will make $555K. So this was not a salary cap move.

        Second, we don’t need $3.5M to fit our rookies under the cap, because they’ll be displacing players already under the cap (minimum $480K apiece). Only your top 51 salaries count against the cap, so it’s not like rookies are added on top of what’s already being paid.

        • BigGil

          Fisher ‘s contract should cause about a $4m cap hit (which was about Luck’s cap hit last year). His addition knocks off a $480k player, so $3.5m in new cap hit is about right. And though it’s the top 51 now, it won’t be come the regular season (when all 53 count against the cap) so about $1m on top of that.

          Ultimately I don’t think this was necessarily a cap move so much as it was allowing a dissatisfied player the opportunity to leave in exchange for another vet whose HC didn’t have use for, and will provide additional competition for us. Who knows, maybe we’ll get lucky and an as yet undisclosed term of the trade is that ARI shares the cap hit (like when the Jets traded for Tebow).

          Regardless next year’s cap availability doesn’t look too great (as things currently stand), and we might not’ve been able to afford to re-up Arenas anyway (especially with Asamoah presumably a priority).

          • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

            I meant we don’t need $3.5M additional cap space. We should already have enough to sign all our rookies, or close to it. Cutting guys like Lewis and Moeaki could give us a little more space, or re-doing some deals.

          • BigGil

            Ah. Gotcha. Still would like to see next year’s cap number improved. I don’t see how we could re-up both Asamoah and Albert with the way next year’s cap currently looks. Maybe Moeaki will be cut or traded before all is said and done (not gonna go with Kendrick just yet… I think Kelce is a better bet to cover the loss of Moeaki than Commings is Lewis, given remaining depth at each respective position). Like Moeaki, but I’d prefer a kickass O-Line more.

    • Shawn Duce

      Stacy,I usually always agree with and appreciate your insight (and still do),but KC is not going to be any worse off by trading arenas (as Lyle stated) as the roster stands now. I agree thou, the rest of the column is pure speculation…

      • Stacy D. Smith

        That hasn’t been demonstrated for me yet. Perhaps you could take a stab at it? Who will replace Arenas in the slot that won’t be a downgrade at the position?

        • P Heitman

          Flowers was lining up in the slot in the nickel with Sean Smith coming in as the second cornerback in those situations. We’ll be fine, bro.

        • Shawn Duce

          IMHO he looked better this season b/c teams were in cruise control,pounding the ball by halftime,plus the WR position is getting taller everyday

          • Shawn Duce

            …and he’s quick but…he always seems late on some reads in space which cost him a step,again MHO

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Points taken, but you never really answered my question.

          • Shawn Duce

            True,its a tough question,playing the slot is a unique skill set. I guess it would depend on the scheme/concept

    • Lyle Graversen

      Stacy, if you’re arguing that in 3 CB sets they might have used Arenas and left Robinson or Smith on the bench I couldn’t disagree more. They obvious see ONE of them playing there. You don’t pay three CBs that kind of money if you don’t think they can fill the three main CB spots. Therefore, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to pay Arenas what he was set to make if he wouldn’t see regular time. Those reserve spots are better filled with cheaper young players with upside. So with three starting caliber CBs and multiple cheap depth options, Arenas was expendable.

      I’m not sure that Sherman will make the team at all. However, I think he’ll go into camp with a chance to compete for the starting spot and that’s more than Arenas had.

      The Chiefs needed some more cap space and it had to come from somewhere. I think Arenas was a better option than guys like Kendrick Lewis and Tony Moeaki who may have been next on the list.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Sean Smith’s your starter opposite of Flowers. I will concede that the Chiefs may see Robinson as a realistic Nickel option. I think they’re wrong about that. I would prefer to see Robinson at Free Safety. His contract seems to give that impression as well.

        • KCMikeG

          You are right about Robinson being the safety not the nickel CB. Great analysis from AP below. So Lewis at the nickel?

          http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3/8/4081756/nfl-free-agency-2013-dunta-robinson-chiefs

          • Lyle Graversen

            Only problem is the safety speculation came from blogs/media and didn’t hold true. Robinson lined up at CB at mini camp or OTAs or whatever it was a few weeks back. In fact he started next to Flowers then in the nickel they bumped Flowers inside and had Smith and Robinson on the outside. Who knows if that sticks, but that’s how they tried it to start.

          • KCMikeG

            Good point Lyle. I do remember hearing that too. It just confirms my comment below about the “experts” ranking & grading our draft w/o even knowing what our offense or defense will really be come the start of the season.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I’m not sure we can glean much from where someone lined up in April though. Reid also said that Robinson would be the starter opposite of Flowers to start. Look at his contract, now look at Smith’s contract. Who believes he’ll start over Smith in September?

            I do concede that Robinson playing Safety is pure speculation on my part though. I just happen to think that’s where he’ll best be used.

          • P Heitman

            I’ll take how someone lined up in April over your personal speculation, no offense intended.

            Regardless of Smith or Robinson starting at CB, neither will line up on slot receivers – the point is that Flowers was bumped inside, not who was CB2 in the base set.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I have no issue with you not taking my word for it, but don’t deny good common sense while you’re at it. Look at the contracts. Then tell me you believe Robinson will start at Corner in September.

            As to your latter point, that’s what I’ve been saying all along. That it’s unlikely that either Smith or Robinson will play Nickel (Smith because of his contract, Robinson because of his skillset) This is the why I disliked the trade.

          • P Heitman

            I agree but you’re also saying you’d prefer Arenas in the slot over Flowers, and that’s ridiculous.

            Starters in base D: CB1 Flowers CB2 Smith/Robinson
            Starters in Nickel: CB1 Smith CB2 Robinson CB3 (nickel back/slot) Flowers

            You’d rather play Arenas over those three? C’mon man.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            You’d rather have Robinson potentially matched up on someone’s #1 WR? No thanks. Flowers outside. Robinson, if he has to be at Corner, in the slot.

          • P Heitman

            That’s not the argument we’re having, Stacy.

            Your original, over-arching thesis is that we were hosed because we traded our 4th-string corner for a fullback.

            I’m saying that we were NOT hosed in this trade. We have three solid corners and there really is no spot for Arenas.

            You made the argument that Arenas is a valuable nickel corner and was great against team’s slot receivers. This may be true, but because of the money we have spent at this position (a point you have made to justify Smith starting over Robinson), Arenas is the odd man out. You have to see this. He was due to make 1.5 mil. We can’t pay our 4th corner 1.5 million dollars.

            You’ve made the argument that Smith and Robinson are not suited to play against the slot receiver. I rebutted with the fact that in mini camp, when they went into sub-packages, Flowers was lining up across from the slot receiver.

            You’ve also made the argument that you see Robinson as a Safety. He’s never played this position before, and no one has said (aside from blogger’s aimless speculation) that he was going to play safety. In fact, we have so many safeties on the roster already, that with the trade of Arenas, the Chiefs might as well have sent a press release reading “Robinson Will Play Corner, Not Safety.”

            It’s obvious that you viewed the secondary as such:

            SS: Berry
            FS: Robinson
            CB: Flowers
            CB: Smith
            Nickel: Arenas

            I agree that this looks like a tough defensive backfield, no doubt. This was a great option for us…But moves that have since been made, pretty much spell out the following:

            SS: Berry
            FS: Lewis/Hartmann/Abdullah/Commings
            CB: Flowers
            CB: Smith/Robinson
            Nickel: Flowers/Robinson/Smith

            This defensive backfield looks fine, and we’re not missing much with the absence of Arenas. Which is exactly my point.

            The Javier Arenas show was fun while it lasted. A fart in the wind, really. But the Chiefs have a lot of money invested in Corners, and Arenas was the least valuable of the four, so they traded him. We weren’t “hosed,” we made a sound football decision. We traded a bubble roster player for a bubble roster player. We would have been hosed if we had just cut him after training camp…because in the end, that’s where this was headed. We at least got something in return.

            Will Sherman suck? Remains to be seen…but the argument for keeping Arenas is weak, if it at all sensical.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Then why wasn’t Jalil Brown cut? Arenas is both a better football player and a smaller cap hit in 2013. Arenas was due to make $645,000. Brown? Try
            $772, 325. 18% higher. Your theory about the contract doesn’t wash.

            The rest of the argument is purely subjective. I’ve already conceded that my opinions about where these DB’s will play isn’t based on any inside information. I can’t substantiate any of that.

          • P Heitman

            I’ll bet my right arm Brown IS cut before the season starts…plus we didn’t cut Arenas, we traded him…

            The rest of the argument is based on 1) who is on the roster and 2) what they’ve done, as you said, in April.

            My main point is that we didn’t get hosed in this trade. Again, agree to disagree.

            Not tryin’ to troll you, bro. I think you’re one of the smartest people on this site and you’re a blast to argue with. Much more enlightening than “Triple Fullcat” guy…

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I misspoke. I meant to ask, “Why wasn’t Jalil Brown traded?”

            I’m not as upset with Arenas being traded as I am the compensation we got for him. I would’ve taken a late-round pick over Sherman.

            I could be completely wrong about him though. I couldn’t have been more wrong about Cyrus Gray last season. Hahaha.

            I never thought you were trolling. While we disagree, your points were always well-reasoned. I tip my hat to you, sir. Thank you for the kind words.

            A civil debate is always welcome here. What else can Chiefs fans do in May?

          • P Heitman

            I couldn’t have been more wrong about the entire team last season, let alone Gray. Most wrong I’ve been about a Chiefs team, ever.

          • P Heitman

            Also, it made more sense when I thought his salary was $1,435,000 for 2013. Apparently it’s only 630,000 and his cap hit for 2013 was 645,000…so…if that is indeed true, you’re right, the contract theory doesn’t wash.

          • ArrowFan

            Arenas wanted out that much is clear Dorsey simply got something in return.

          • BigGil

            Just because his physical attributes don’t preclude him from playing the position, it doesn’t mean he will or should. I see Commings getting his fair amount of reps at FS and if he performs well (and demonstrates that his “ball tracking” can translate into interceptions) then he’ll get the start (even though Dunta’s contract is more expensive). Would it be bad contract value to keep one of either Dunta or Smith sidelined except for nickel/dime fronts? Sure. Should that possibility prevent us from playing the best players in the best position? No. Can we really blame Dorsey for giving Dunta the contract he did, when he did, with no guarantee we’d get a bigger FA (such as Smith) on the market? I don’t think so. Everybody’s stressing the need now for 3 solid corners now. Arenas was good in the slot (as has been said 3rd best in the league), but Flowers is likely to be just as good, if not better, given his overall skillset. Arenas was pricey given his expected contributions to the team, I can see the point of letting him go.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            That’s all speculation at this point, so let’s set it aside. For now, we know Reid wants to try Robinson at Corner. We’ll revisit where he’ll end up as the offseason wears on.

            Where someone plays in a sub-package is different from where they’re situation on the depth chart. My earlier posts weren’t concerned with packages as much as they were the depth chart. Sean Smith is a starter. He’s going to start over Dunta Robinson.

            I was slightly disappointed with the Arenas trade because I believe he’s the best Nickelback we have.

        • Tyler Alexander

          No way we start a 5’10″ 183lb CB at safety

          • Stacy D. Smith

            With more pass-heavy offenses the league is moving to smaller, more athletic Safeties. Robinson has always played bigger than his 180-pound frame anyway. With another 5 pounds of bulk he’d be fine for the position. Jim Leonhard is two inches shorter, about 5 pounds heavier and he’s playing STRONG SAFETY.

          • Tyler Alexander

            That’s the exception and not the rule. Its impractical, IMO, to expect a player who gives up 60-80 lbs to some tightends to play safety. Cummings/ Lewis/ Hartman is what we should expect at FS

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Safeties his size are in no way uncommon in the NFL. Louis Delmas, Bob Sanders, Earl Thomas, Jim Leonhard, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, etc.

          • P Heitman

            Sanders and Leonhard I’ll give you, but those other guys are 5-10, 5-11 and over 200 lbs. Just sayin.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I conceded that he could stand another 5 pounds of bulk, but I think the point has been made. The idea that he’s woefully undersized for the position just isn’t true. Smaller safeties are not unheard of in the NFL. He’s always been a super aggressive Cornerback who plays bigger and more physical than his stature would indicate. He can play that position.

          • P Heitman

            Agreed. We just don’t need him there.

          • Tyler Alexander

            Sanders is 200 lbs as well

          • P Heitman

            You’re forgetting about Abdullah too, who could very well be a darkhorse to win that second safety spot. We’ve got safeties, and the move to trade Arenas solidifies Robinson as a CB. I really think Commings/Lewis/Abdullah/Hartmann is the FS competition, and the CB competition becomes who starts opposite Flowers, Smith or Robinson…

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I’m not counting on much from a guy who was out of football for a year.

          • P Heitman

            Eric Berry missed a year…

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Perfect example. Took him most of the season to shake the rust off and return to form.

          • P Heitman

            Terrible example. He blew out his knee, dude. Had to rehab. Abdullah went to Mecca…completely different.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I’m pretty sure I outlined the difference myself. If you think an entire year away from the highest level of football in the world won’t require time to adjust, I’m not sure what else to say. Berry was fully rehabbed when he came back. He needed time to readjust to playing the game and all of the intricacies that come along with that.

          • Danny W

            The league is switching to smaller guys to play kind of a center field go and get the ball anywhere type safety.

          • P Heitman

            Robinson will not play Safety. Just sayin.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Wouldn’t surprise me at all. His skillset is perfect for the position. The speed he’s lost also won’t be as big of an issue at Safety.

      • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

        They saved $75K in cap space if Sherman makes the team.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Less than $100K saved. Wow.

          • Justin Jones

            i dont like the trade purely because this puts a 4th FB on the listed roster as of now. that makes no sense at all. thats not saving cap or roster space when we all know at best 2 will stay and most likely only one. in the end u need more depth in the corner and safety areas.

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            The other thing to remember is that fullbacks are typically versatile special teams studs. I know that isn’t a sexy or exciting role, but we need them.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            True.

          • Danny W

            I agree. I’d say one makes the roster. You keep a stable at running back but this isn’t 1969 here we don’t need a half dozen fullbacks out there.

    • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

      If they cut him, it would actually make a little sense. That would have saved them about $630K (not counting the dead money they’d be on the hook for). But to trade him for a $555K player means they only saved 75K if he makes the team. Even that would make a little sense if it was not just another FB.

      It’s nothing to burn down Arrowhead over, but it looks like a pretty good trade for the Cards and a pretty bad one for the Chiefs to me. Especially considering Arians had already said that he doesn’t like FBs, so they don’t really have a spot for Sherman. They’d have probably cut him, and guess who’s first for waiver claims?

    • KCMikeG

      I think you are right about Robinson being the safety opposite Berry with Smith and Flowers at the corners. Could they be thinking of using Lewis as the slot corner? Commings will probably compete for a spot as a reserve safety and could be the 6th DB for the dime. By the way Menzie never got the chance to compete with Arenas as he was on IR.
      We have no clue who will make the roster between all of the big bodies we have brought in but I believe Reid must have something special plan for these big blocking pass catchers as we have loaded up on them.

      • P Heitman

        Gonna go out on a limb and say that Robinson will not play safety for the Chiefs this year. Makes absolutely no sense, especially since we traded Arenas.

        This is my best guess:

        FS: Lewis/Abdullah/Commings/Hartmann
        SS: Berry
        CB1: Flowers
        CB2: Smith/Robinson

        In nickel packages Flowers gets bumped inside to cover the slot receiver, and Smith/Robinson take the outside receivers.

        This is pure speculation, obviously, but that’s how they lined up in this most recent camp. The Abdullah signing was under the radar, but he could be a surprise starter at FS. Lewis is the incumbent though, and should he stay healthy, we should have no problem with him as the starter there.

        • Danny W

          Brandon Flowers will not be covering a slot. Just saying.

          • P Heitman

            He was in camp so far, that’s why I’m thinking that might be the case.

          • ArrowFan

            Flowers should be covering the oppositions best receiver regardless of where said best receiver lines up.

    • Danny W

      Agreed. I’d say special teams play alone would warrant Arenas a spot on many rosters let along his decent nickel spot play.

  • cd3382

    I see more upside with Jalil Brown anyway, he seemed like he was progressing every week. If we do keep BA, then fine, because he will play like he has a chip on his shoulder and therefor I think we will get better production out of him this season. Move Fisher to the RT spot for the meantime and watch him dominate that side too. Either way I think its a win win for us. Go Chiefs!!!

    • Michael Shaw

      Your crazy. Jalil Brown was horrible. Shouldn’t be on the team still. I would rather have Sabby back then him!!!!!

      • Danny W

        You and I don’t agree often but I have to with you on this one. Jalil Brown is super horrible! I think he’s young and made few contributions on special teams is the only reason the guys still has a spot. I would be stoked if they cut him though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.brownsberger Jason Brownsberger

    Emmit is still the db coach if he let this happen its ok

  • Trent Taylor

    Spot on analysis Lyle.

  • chiefridgy

    Makes sense

  • http://twitter.com/EdMaldo1 Don Quijote

    Agree totally. The problem that most fans had was they thought just because he was a high pick we should receive a pick from AZ. No, on a one to one player trade, Arenas does not have that value. You know what I won’t mind Moeiki and Lewis also traded. They are always hurt. There r some players that will alway live on the PUP list. Give the new regime some time. It will take a few years. I want to see progress and stability. Hang in there fans. The future looks good.

    • redchiefs

      I agree that Moeaki and Kendrick Lewis are living on shaky ground. They have had numerous injuries and have missed as many games as they’ve played. Well, it seems like they’ve missed that many. What did Herm say? You can’t make the club in the tub.

  • toperspective

    Well said.

  • Carlos Nevarez

    Last time I checked, a fb helped AP rush for over 2000 last year…

    • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

      This FB helped AZ have the worst rushing attack in the NFL last year. We also just drafted a FB, despite already having three on the team, so now we have five.

      • Trent Taylor

        DiMarco, Wilson, Spencer and ???

        • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

          D’Imperio and Eachus.

      • KCMikeG

        I don’t think you can put that on the FB. They had poor quality and often injured RB’s and the worst OL in the NFL.
        Also our 5 FB’s actually have played TE too so watch out for something special from Reid using this type of player.

        • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

          I know you didn’t make the original comment, but you can’t give the FB credit when when a rushing game succeeds, but none of the blame when it does not. You can’t have it both ways. Either they’re difference makers or they’re not.

          I’m sure Adrian Peterson would have done just fine with any decent FB. Just like Jamaal Charles has had no problem setting and maintaining the all-time record for YPC without the benefit of having Anthony Sherman blocking for him.

          • KCMikeG

            That is exactly what I was pointing out. It was on the OL and the weak/injured RB’s too. Even Tony Richardson couldn’t make a running attack work with that train wreck. Charles has been fantastic while overcoming many challenges in our OL and FB positions. There will be no stopping him if he has both this year! I am considering taking Charles with my first pick in Fantasy Football this year!

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    I love this move. The more FBs we have the better!!! I want to see a Double TE set with 2 FBs lead blocking for JC. Lets pave the way for new running formations. Pound the rock, control the clock and eliminate turnovers and stupid mistakes. We have enough DBs to compete. Arenas is small. I like the big physical backs we have now.

  • antony555

    Bad move, we did not need a fullback we just drafted one, we need playmakers if it were a Wide Receiver to replace Baldwin that would be great the guy should have done something by now, look at Dez Bryant he has been in the league far less time than our guy and is a big strong target for Romo!

  • ArrowFan

    The reason we signed two FA CB is one to replace Routt and two to replace another active CB on top of the FA we also drafted one. Something had to give and it was Arenes. I remember Arenes getting but hurt when we sighned the two FA saying we didn’t need them.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Well said. Keep calm. Carry on.

  • Michael Shaw

    Sorry Lyle I didn’t get past point #1. Jalil Brown SUCKS!!!!!!!!! DaQuan Menzie, if I am not mistaken, has been hurt most of the time he has been on the roster, so why not cut them and keep Javier who is WAY better than both of them together. He is no starter, but he was good on special teams and as a nickel CB.

    • NathanaelL

      wasn’t menzie on ir and really never ha a chance to prove himself. still i agree with you that’s why i did not like the commings draft pick

    • Lyle Graversen

      Arenas’s agent even said they were pursuing the trade because of additions at CB that KC made. Arenas didn’t want to ride the bench. The Chiefs didn’t want to pay him to ride the bench. They have young players that they can try and develop at the 4/5 CB spots. He was expendable, period.

  • PunjabiPete

    I will fight you to the ends of the Earth on this one!

    In all seriousness, this was a Meh trade with a side of whateversauce. I’m more interested in seeing what we plan on doing with a fullback this year.

  • dakotachief

    PREACH IT!

  • P Heitman

    All and all, the fact there is so much discussion about this is insanity. We’re arguing about a 4th string defensive back…