Chiefs, Dolphins Trade For Branden Albert Coming Down To Draft Picks

Sep 16, 2012; Orchard Park, NY, USA; Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel (7) takes a snap from guard Ryan Lilja (65) as tackle Branden Albert (76) blocks during the third quarter against the Buffalo Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium. Bills beat the Chiefs 35-17. Mandatory Credit: Kevin Hoffman-USA TODAY Sports

The 2013 NFL Draft is tomorrow and the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins are trying to hammer out a last minute deal that will send LT Branden Albert to South Beach.

The news has broken that the Dolphins have the parameters of a deal worked out with Albert.

The problem, as Steve Wyche of ESPN reported, is whether or not the Dolphins are willing to pay what the Chiefs are asking.

Salguero elaborated:

It is not known what the Chiefs want in return for Albert. It is not known what the Dolphins are willing to give for Albert. That part is all speculation. The consensus is that the exchange could involve a second round pick in the draft that begins Thursday night and continues Friday and Saturday.

The Dolphins have two second-round selections.

The Dolphins, as Steve Wyche of NFL-AM reported, are the only team talking to the Chiefs about trading for Albert.

By the way, the Dolphins and the Chiefs are gaining quite a history of trade emnity. They disagreed on compensation for sending Patrick Surtain to KC before getting it done. They disagreed on compensation for sending Trent Green to Miami before getting it done.

This could be potentially problematic for the Chiefs. I think Miami has a bit of leverage here. The Chiefs owe Albert $9 million this season and KC is reportedly hoping to draft one of the top two LTs in the draft. If I had to guess, I’d say the Chiefs are asking for Miami’s high second-round pick and the Dolphins are offering up a third, hoping the Chiefs will meet them in the middle and request the late second-rounder.

If the Dolphins call KC’s bluff and waits until the second round begins Friday night, the Chiefs may panic and take the late second-rounder. Miami could even go so far as to wait until after the second round, forcing the Chiefs to part with Albert for a third.

The thinking here is that once the Chiefs make the pick at No. 1, the Dolphins will know how to proceed. If KC still takes a tackle, the Dolphins can be sure the Chiefs are probably still willing to deal Albert. If, however, the Chiefs pull a fast one and take a defensive player, Miami could panic and serve up what the Chiefs are asking. Or more.

This may come down to which organization blinks first. Who do you think it will be, Addicts?

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  • Maverik256

    This trade keeps getting worse i was on board for saving cap and getting the low second not so much for the high second for a third we better just keep him a year and bite the bullet that we can’t resign him and part ways next year this is kinda getting out of hand at this point I would love Albert and fisher or joeckel/fisher and a FA Rt but all this pestering for a third after getting rid of Winston seems like two steps forward two steps back for the new regime

    • Danny W

      I agree if they leave us with just third round pick option I’d keep him. Let them draft someone down there.

      • knowtheshow

        KC will keep him in that case, they might as well just cut greenwood, have the space for the rookie’s and keep albert for the year, renting him til they get a third for letting him walk at seasons end

    • knowtheshow

      Winston played at a piss poor level. the team still has Donald Stephenson to play RT for the long run.

  • Tyler Alexander

    If the top 3 tackles are gone before Miami picks is our leverage

    • Maverik256

      True if we can’t get high 2nd I say we let it play out and see how bad they really want him

    • KCMikeG

      The Fins HAVE to give us what we want for Albert or trade up with us to make sure they get one of the top 3 LT’s or they are SCREWED. Leverage CHIEFS!

      • d-block

        Couldn’t agree more. If Miami doesn’t make this trade happen, then this may be the final year of their GM in that city.

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        That’s the thing though. With two 2nd-rounders, they have the draft ammunition to move up high enough for one of the three tackles. It doesn’t really matter whether they spend those 2′s for a trade-up or for Albert, but if I’m them, I’d prefer to draft a guy.

        • KCMikeG

          They will have to buy into the top 1-5 spots to get one of them. Which would have to include their early 2nd rounder for a rookie with high expectations and things they need to work on while adjusting to the speed/physicality of the NFL game. Or they could take a proven NFL LT – potentially for their later 2nd round. The draft is frequently a high risk proposition while Albert is a proven performer.

      • troy utt

        My concern with that… is with cap space! I know BA’s salary is already figured in, but the numbers are tight!!! If you look down the roster, about the only place it would appear we have without releasing anyone would be to rework contracts. That said it may have to be Tamba & or Berry as those amount to in excess of $22-$24mil including incentives, etc… So with what we need just to sign the rookie draft class, I fear that we may have lost the leverage and that is why Miami is holding firm to not letting loose of that #42??? Then again…with everything else R&D have done, maybe it’s part of their plan???

        • KCMikeG

          True but my money is on Dorsey to pull off a winner while keeping us under the cap. Like the idea of restructuring Tamba’s contract. Thanks again for the help Troy!

          • William Campbell

            Why would you wanna restructure Hali? His cap hit this year is a monster but starting next year its very manageableaat like 6 per year I think

          • KCMikeG

            Tamba’s cap hits are 2013 – $15.5M, 2014 – $11.5M & 2015 – $12M. That’s why. Plus his sacks were down by 30% from his peak year in 2010. If we keep Albert at $9.8M we still will need $4-$5M to sign our picks. Cap is getting too tight.

        • knowtheshow

          really, the only holes on the team that must be fixed are ILB and backup HB/S few others that can be done with their 1-4th rd picks. they cut greenwood, or a Kendrick lewis, and they have the space

          • troy utt

            At last report there was right about $3mil if I understood correctly..and then we made some more camp signings. By all reports we will need on average a minimum of $7mil to cover the incoming draft class, thus my concern…

          • Tyler Alexander

            If I was a betting man, which I am, Dorsey’s been planning to extend Alex Smith from the start or he never would have let the cap get this close. A back loaded deal with a nice signing bonus will give us the space we need this year.

          • troy utt

            With all that happened with Cassel do you really see them doing a deal any-time soon with Alex? Don’t get me wrong, I was all-in for the trade with SF…and don’t feel the 2nd rd pick was too steep a price to pay for a starting QB especially when you consider how far he has come the last couple of years! I just think with Cassel still fresh in their minds, and if the #1 pick goes LT as expected (the Geno camp will be disturbed) the fan base may erupt!!!

          • Tyler Alexander

            We’re at 3.9 mil and the camp signings don’t count because they are at or below the top 51 player salaries.

          • troy utt

            There is the answer to the question I was asking yesterday… I did not know about the ramifications of the camp bodies, as well I was curious about the cap space for our incoming players via draft… Regardless of what happens with everything else, must we have those monies available (freed-up) prior to to the draft?

          • Tyler Alexander

            The way I understand it is the your 51st highest paid player is a league minimum guy which I believe is 525,000 give or take. The players u drafts salary will be minus this number since they will be replacing them on the top 51. For example, Fisher gets 4 mil his first year but the cap will only go up 3.475 mil because the other player dropped off the list. I assume, but I’m not sure, that u have to have the cap dollars before they’re signed and not before they’re drafted which means we have until the start of training camp to adjust your cap if u want ur rookies in camp. Like I said, I’m not sure about that.

          • ArrowFan

            Dorsey has already set aside the money needed for the draft so we don’t half to do anything.

          • troy utt

            According to the NFLPA report put out at 8am this morning we only have $3.919mil total avail, with 51 players under contract. That would not be enough to cover the incoming players via draft??? Can we not carry 75 on the roster for training camp?

          • ArrowFan

            Not all players hit the cap number. It is only your top 51 not all of them. Do you really think that every player drafted will get top 51 money on our team? We will be ok especially considering we only have one pick in the top 2 round for now. If needed we some cap room can be squeezed out of our roster if push comes to shove. We could just sign Albert to the same deal that Miami agreed to if needed.

          • ArrowFan

            no we don’t.

      • William Campbell

        They don’t have to trade up with us. Cleveland, Jacksonville, and Oakland all wanna trade back too

        • KCMikeG

          True and now they have done just that and picked an OLB?? They also won’t give up even their late round #2 pick for Albert so they are officially screwed at OT. Good luck Tannehill. Better work on running for your life.

  • steve james

    I think Dorsey will get what he wants. Draft Fisher he will do RT if asked, all the leverage to the Chiefs.

    • christian rajkovic

      I’m a Dolphin fan. Are any of you here? I have a different perspective on this.

      • steve james

        Do tell? The chiefs have no NEED to get rid of BA. The fins NEED a LT. Comes down to that how are the fins not in a weaker position?

      • Chief Hokie

        Nobody gives a shit

  • stephan costa

    KC gets what it wants here,or they are they are gonna be scraping whats left of tannyhill off the tundra by week 3! The only other option they have is to trade up in round 1 to get 1 of the top 3 LT,and I think that will cost them the same price.

    • Danny W

      I think it costs them more honestly. You get a really high player plus a good left tackle only giving up a second if you deal with us. You don’t you get one good Left tackle and you lose your second round pick anyway. You get an extra valuable player with our deal. Give us the high second and be happy.

      • stephan costa

        Yep. Its a game of chicken allright…..and Ireland and Tannyhills heads are directly on the block! They have handcuffed themselves here, The Chiefs should give them a deadline and really turn the heat up on this chicken cassarole !

        • Da Menace

          Heck arizona needs a tackle too…Stupid greedy fins…

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      Not a lot of tundra in South Beach in September.

      • berttheclock

        But, isn’t South Beach in Tierra del Fuego?

      • stephan costa

        Fine, they will scape whats left of him off of the plastic like green crap they call grass in Florida

  • Danny W

    I think there is some cordiality too. You want a good relationship with other clubs to be able to make these deals in the future. What is beneficial for both parties? If you ask me I think we owe San Fran a good fleecing for the deal they made us do for Smith. Neither here nor there. I think the Chiefs threaten to keep Albert, if they don’t pony up and go ahead and still draft Fischer. You want a solid left tackle you better pay the piper.

    • stephan costa

      Agreed! We stand pat & make them pay that price. Worst case scenario for KC, we have one of the best O-lines in the nfl. Fins have way more to lose and Ireland knows his job is on the line as well. Miami will blink first!

  • TAZMOSIS

    The GM for the ‘Phins, Irelend, is between a rock and a hard place. If he doesn’t get this deal done with the Chiefs, he gets no LT to protect his franchise QB. He is not gonna get a starter in the draft, as they will all be gone. He had better just pony up the early second and then get on to new business. If not, the Chiefs can keep Albert, take Fisher with their first, plug him in at RT, and still be ok.

  • Adam Schwartz

    I say keep Albert and draft Joekel as a RT and just be happy we got a legit starting QB @ 34, I fail to see this being a bad draft if it goes that way, Albert has not shown much reason to not get paid, so I’d pay him and still draft OT and move on

  • Mark Lynch

    KC has the leverage – they DON’T have to do anything. If Miami won’t give them what they want, Albert plays RT for the year, Joeckel (or Fisher) LT and see how Stephenson does filling in at RT on occasion. Albert leaves next year, KC gets a comp pick and goes with either Donaldson or draft/sign a RT.
    Miami has NO LT and aren’t getting any of the top 3 unless they part with BIGGER picks than what KC wants. If they get cute, KC will pull the plug and just play Albert for the year on a pretty damn good line with Joeckel or Fisher and Albert as T’s. Miami may be left out in the cold if they won’t play ball, but, contrary to what you may think, KC DOES NOT have to make the trade – in fact, their line is BETTER in year 1 of the R & D regime if they DON’T.

    • Da Menace

      Amen brother..

    • chiefdeorty

      I agree with you on this one if they want him it better be #42 or else we keep him tag him next year and trade him for a # 3 next year which is what the comp value would be.

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        If we tag him next year we’ll be paying him $11.8 million, or about 10% of our total team’s salary. That’s hard to swallow for a guy who is good, but not elite. That price tag will also diminish his value on the trade market and there may not be any LT-needy teams next year.

        • knowtheshow

          then you let him walk. that’s the point. kc can play him for a year, provide top notch protection, then still get a 3rd rd comp pick even if they don’t tag him next year. that is good compensation, and if they don’t receive better in trade drastically, why bother? might as well go for the win now as they are doing with the rest of the team and play him the year if Miami wants to play hardball.

  • Adam Schwartz

    Getting Lilja back for another year wouldn’t hurt this situation either, just sayin

  • Da Menace

    F@#k those fins. Any other year it would’ve been a first rounder for a prospect that is proven and to note BA was a first rounder. What a joke greedy ass Miami.

    • knowtheshow

      that’s pretty debatable. I think hes worth a 2nd and a 5th. at best

  • ArrowFan

    I say the price goes up once the draft starts.

    • Da Menace

      Yeah Howdy!! Otherwise the fins have to trade to get into the first to get an elite prospect anyway!

  • Sabersimon

    I think it is stupid to trade a franchise LT and the first pick for a franchise LT and a 2nd round pick…STupid!!!

    • knowtheshow

      when you cant keep said franchise tackle beyond the year, and will only get a 3rd round comp in return, you might as well replace him while you can, and get more in return NOW. this frees up space to help the team win NOW, and helps the LT position for the future. the ceiling on fisher is wayyyy higher than albert’s ranking in the teen’s.

  • Donkeyhater

    Don’t take less than Albert’s worth. He is easily worth the 42nd pick at least as an upper echelon LT in the league. I am sick of giving away our best players and not getting fair value in return. And vice/versa vastly overpaying for other team’s mediocre veterans. If Miami doesn’t want to do the trade throw them a bone and offer to give them back a 5th or 6th rounder. If they still won’t do that then screw them. Keep Albert in that case and play with 2 good tackles for a year. The Chiefs can afford to do that a lot easier than the Dolphins can afford to play with none.

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    If I was Dorsey I would put a compilation of all the sacks David Carr had that ruined his bright career. BA would be gone and we would have the 42. With that said am hoping Philly or AZ brings us a deal to move up. We could really grab some great players this year tha coul help us for years to come

  • freshmeat62

    It doesn’t make sense to me that Miami is willing to pay “elite” money to Albert, but they don’t think that that elite player is worth a 2nd rd pick?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002526247515 Ryan Jackson

    Miami has the leverage. Chiefs don’t want to pay him 9mill and to save on cap space. Most importantly, chiefs don’t have a 2nd rounder that they want badly. So miami has the leverage. To me chiefs need to take the high 2nd rounder and both sides win.

  • ArrowFan

    People keep talking like if we don’t free up cap space we are doomed. How will we be doomed? Other than signing another O lineman what other FA do we need? If we end up keeping Albert do we need another O lineman, no we don’t.

  • christian rajkovic

    I’m a Dolphin fan and have a much different perspective on this whole thing

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