The Answer: Trade Branden Albert

Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

It’s been a week since last we spoke and to my surprise, there’s still no consensus in Chiefs Kingdom on what the team should do with the #1 pick. This was supposed to have been a joyous occasion for fans of this organization. The 2013 NFL Draft is the first time Kansas City has held the draft’s top pick in the history of the franchise. I’m sure most of you pictured a much different scenario. You were expecting a quarterback to stride across the stage to greet the NFL commissioner (if ever we were in this position). Unfortunately, it looks as though that ship has sailed.

Virtually every mock draft on the worldwide web has us taking Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with our R1 selection. The muddled situation with franchised left tackle Branden Albert has made that inevitable. Albert is clearly unhappy with where he stands with the Chiefs. He opted not to attend the team’s voluntary workouts last week. Here’s what he had to say in a recent interview with NFL AM:

Until I know my situation with certainty, I’m going to stay away. [I want to know] if I’m going to be there long term. Right now, everything is uncertain. I want that long-term commitment, but as you know in football, you don’t have too much control of the situation. I want to play for the Chiefs, but I want that commitment long term.

The Chiefs hold Albert’s rights for the 2013 season and have committed $9.8 million of their cap in using the tag to retain him. It’s unclear whether or not he figures into their long-term plans, but it’s been rumored that there’s been no real contract negotiation between the sides. SI.com’s Peter King reported that the Chiefs would listen to trade offers for Albert, but we heard later that they were seeking multiple picks. In my estimation, Kansas City is unlikely to get multiple picks for Albert. It’s time for the front office to consider trading him for one R2 pick and calling it a day.

The 2013 NFL Draft is rich with talent between the middle part of the first and second rounds. Having only one pick in those rounds, that will eventually go to backfilling the left tackle position, puts the team at a disadvantage. The Chiefs seem to be resolved in moving on from Albert. With a flurry of quarterback movement over the past week (Flynn to Oakland, Kolb to Buffalo, Palmer to Arizona), there’s little chance that they’ll find a trade partner willing to move up that high. They may as well trade Albert before April 25th, clear the $9.8 million from their books, and give themselves an opportunity to come away with another starting-caliber player in the draft.

I’m not a part of the fan contingent who now sees Branden Albert as a malcontent. I completely understand his desire to know if he has a future with this football team. My suggestion that the Chiefs trade him is not emotional. I think it’s the best way for the Chiefs to manage an unfortunate series of events. Without a new contract, the relationship between the Chiefs and Albert could continue to deteriorate.

I’m curious as to why there’s been so little progress with this situation. Is the front office concerned that Albert’s back problems may resurface? That’s a legitimate concern, but then why give him $9.8 million for 2013? If John Dorsey has his sights set on replacing Albert, why carry such a high cap number for this season? Draft his replacement and be done with it. I won’t pretend to know the master plan. There may be a very good explanation for their silence on the matter. I just hope that sooner (rather than later) the team goes or gets off the pot.

I’d love to hear your thoughts. If you’re so inclined, share them in the comment section below.

Until next time, Addicts!

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  • P Heitman

    I’d argue that the answer is not trading Albert, but keeping him. Long-term.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I’d love that, but I suspect that the Chiefs don’t have that in mind.

      • P Heitman

        What makes you think that. Mel Kiper? I think they are waiting until the draft shakes out and keeping their options open. Twenty bucks says four days before the draft, they resume contract talks with Albert, and on draft day they take Dion Jordan. Just a hunch.

        • P Heitman

          No more than twenty bucks, though…haha.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          The Chiefs front office has been swift and decisive with every other move. Why the hesitation in getting Albert re-signed? I don’t KNOW that he won’t get a long-term deal. It’s just a hunch.
          I’d hate it if they took Jordan #1. He’s too small to put a hand on the ground and we have clear cut starters at OLB. If they want a passrusher, I’d prefer they took Ansah.

          • P Heitman

            Well, if they didn’t wait on re-signing Albert, he would be untradable. You’re assuming they knew immediately what they were going to do. I wouldn’t make that assumption. I think that they have been “quick and decisive” with the ultimate goal of giving themselves options. They have the option to take one of the “safer” picks at tackle, should they choose to do so. However, by franchising Albert, they also have given themselves the option to wait until the player evaluations have been finished and their board has been set, and then determine what to do with him. If BPA winds up being one of the tackles, they can pursue a trade with Albert. If not, they can extend him.

            No one has (at least anywhere I’ve been reading) made
            the point that the Chiefs franchised Branden Albert prior to concluding their evaluations and setting their draft board. To believe they franchised Albert with the specific intent to trade him and draft Luke Joeckel would not only be naïve, but would also mean that you believe Dorsey does not listen to his scouts, and that the organization does not do their due diligence when performing draft evaluations. It would mean that they just took Kiper and McShay’s word for things and did no evaluations on their own. Do you really believe that to be the case? I don’t.

            As far as Jordan goes, I’ll agree to disagree. I think he’s going to be a stud, but who knows, really. All I know for sure is that I’d take the Chiefs striking out on a player that could potentially make a high impact over striking out on left tackle that we don’t really need.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Sign and trades don’t happen in the NFL. If they’d signed him to a long-term deal, it’d be clear they had no interest in trading him. I’m not assuming much of anything at this point (I’m open minded). I think it’s “naive” to think they have no idea what they’re going to do with that pick just 16 days away from the draft. The Chiefs’ options are limited. They’re really not in a position to trade down. They’re either taking Joeckel, Fisher, Jordon, Smith, or maybe Ansah with that top pick.

            What exactly do you disagree on concerning Jordan? You think he’s big enough to play as a down lineman?

            I don’t want a left tackle either, but to say we don’t need one is to dismiss how shaky their situation with Albert is. They only have his rights for the next 11 months.

          • P Heitman

            “Sign and trades don’t happen in the NFL. If they’d signed him to a long-term deal, it’d be clear they had no interest in trading him.”

            Exactly, and that’s why I said in my post that, “Well, if they didn’t wait on re-signing Albert, he would be untradeable.” I was not suggesting a sign and trade, I was responding your question above when you said, “The Chiefs front office has been swift and decisive with every other move. Why the hesitation in getting Albert re-signed?” Again, because he would be untradeable.

            “I think it’s naïve to think they have no idea what they’re going to do with that pick just 16 days away from the draft”

            I don’t think it’s naïve at all. In fact, my personal opinion is that John Dorsey has indeed been telling the truth this entire time. He said five days ago in a conversation with Albert Breer that, “It’s not creating a belief, it’s the truth,” Dorsey sharply responded. “We’ve said all along it’s a process, and that process will not be finalized, that board will not be set, until four days before the draft. That’s the way that whole process works itself out. There are different phases that you go through. I mean, right now, I just walked downstairs and we’re in a different phase right now. We’re going back as a group and assessing all the different positions.”

            I take that at face value. I don’t think they have a finalized draft board until April 21st. Perhaps that’s my mistake. On April 21st, or around then, either two things will happen…The Chiefs will begin negotiations on a long term contract with Albert, or they will trade him to one of the teams that showed interest when they put out their initial “feelers.”

            “They’re either taking Joeckel, Fisher, Jordon, Smith, or maybe Ansah with that top pick.”

            Well, recently that number has been narrowed down to three. It’s the two tackles and Dion Jordan according to multiple reports.

            “What exactly do you disagree on concerning Jordan? You think he’s big enough to play as a down lineman?”

            No, no, no. He’s clearly too light to be a down lineman, I agree with that. I guess I just disagree with the sentiment. I think he would make our defense NASTY. He can cover, and he’s versatile. I don’t think his only spot in the NFL is coming off of the corners and rushing the passer. In fact, I think a defensive coordinator could get extremely creative with him. I’m sure you’ve seen the videos of him lining up across from (and covering) slot receivers at times for Oregon (check out Erick Ward’s analysis. It’s excellent: http://goo.gl/vspZS). He can cover tight ends, something no one on our defense has been able to do for years, and of course, he can rush the passer. All this after being recruited as a tight end, and only having played defense since 2010. If a defensive coordinator used him creatively, you could potentially get Jordan, Hali, and Houston on the field together in certain packages, which again, would be filthy.

            Another upside is that Hali is about to turn 30, has had declining numbers, and is due 15 million next year. This could force a restructure or a trade next year. But if we can draft a LT when we already have one, we can draft an OLB when we already have one. After all, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

            -Paul

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Keeping trade options open suggests to me that he doesn’t figure into their long-term plans. Don’t you think that’s a fair assumption to make?

            These scouts have been collecting data on players for a full year now. The idea that they haven’t come within inches of a concrete decision at this point is asinine to me.

            I think we could use some OLB depth, but I wouldn’t go there with my top pick. Hali’s got enough football left in him to reach the end of his contract. There will be talented guys who can provide good depth later in the draft.

            There’s no comparison to be made with Albert and Hali. The Chiefs hold long-term rights to Hali. The Chiefs only have Albert for another 11 months.

          • P Heitman

            I think you’re looking at it backwards. It’s not what they do with Albert that dictates the pick, it’s what they do with the pick that dictates what is done with Branden Albert. That’s why they are waiting. If that pick is LT, you bet they trade him. If it’s not, they keep him (at least for a year).

            Yes, the scouts have been collecting data, but visits have happened only weeks ago, and as you read in my above comment, the Chiefs have yet to set their board. If they have it down to three or four players, I think a lot of discussion goes on. I don’t think they have that pick nailed down until their self-imposed deadline. Call it asinine, but I truly believe Dorsey on that. I think they’re close, but again, I don’t think their board is set.

            Never said Hali doesn’t have good football left in him. He’s great. I don’t see them giving him 15 mil next year, but that’s just me. I really don’t think you can ever have enough pass-rushers, ESPECIALLY with Peyton Manning in your division.

            Dynamic defensive players are invaluable.

            Yes, the Chiefs hold long-term rights to Hali, but his contract is going to be enormous next year, and I can almost bet we try to trade him or restructure.

            True, the Chiefs only have Albert for another 11 months. I meant to address that in an earlier reply. They have Albert for another 11 months, and if they so choose, they can tag him again. Do you know what else comes in another 12 months? The 2014 NFL draft, and I bet you there will be a tackle in it.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Occam’s Razor, sir.

            It makes more sense that they know what they plan to do with Albert now and are waiting to see what teams are willing to offer for him (from now until 4/25). What GM worth his salt would allow a tackle prospect dictate what he does with a Top 10 proven left tackle?

            A visit isn’t going to be the deciding factor in which prospect the Chiefs go with. By now, they’ve had years of gametape, the NFL Combine, and Pro Days to use for evaluation purposes. Visits just give them one last chance to see and talk to these prospects before the draft.

            The board may not be final, but I’d be shocked if it changed much between now and 4/21. They know who’s at the top of their board. The order may change, but I doubt the names will.
            Hali’s cap hit will be smaller next year and the cap will be higher. If the number bothers Dorsey, re-structure the deal. Letting him walk for an unproven player is a bad personnel decision. Get your OLB depth in the middle rounds.

            Tagging Albert again means paying him $11.1 million next year. A two-year total of $20 million guaranteed. That’s INSANE! Duane Brown got something like $22 million for a long-term deal. You can’t give him that much jack and not have his rights for the next 3-5 years. That’s foolishness. And again, if they’re going to let him walk after this year…Trade him and draft his replacement now. That would free up space to go and sign a guy like Rolando McClain.

          • P Heitman

            Got me Stacy. Your first paragraph makes a lot of sense. You’re right, they may know today who they are taking. And you’re right that “a visit isn’t going to be the deciding factor in which prospect the Chiefs go with.”

            But what is? Probably meetings. Lots and lots of meetings. Arguments, similar to what goes on here, are being had within the front office. They are sitting in rooms discussing what to do, and they are doing that now.

            Reports have said that they have narrowed their selection down to three players: Joeckel, Fischer, and Jordan. So, when you say, “The board may not be final, but I’d be shocked if it changed much between now and 4/21,” I totally agree with you. They’ve got it narrowed down to three. In a draft where we’ve heard the phrase “no clear cut #1 pick,” it shouldn’t be surprising that it has taken this long to make a decision. There are coaches, scouts and front office members sitting in Andy Reid’s office making cases for different players.

            They’ve set a deadline of April 21st, 2013 to make the final decision on who they will pick first overall, (if they don’t trade out). Sure, they’ve put out feelers to see what they could get in return for Branden Albert. Probably when they knew that there was a possibility they would draft the tackle.

            But I do not believe they knew that when they initially tagged Albert on March 4th? Absolutely not, which is my point. I think the initial tag allowed them to go through their process knowing they had a quality left tackle on the team, and they wouldn’t have to press for ANY player based on need.

            So really two things are going to happen. 1) They’ll decide on Joeckel or Fisher. After this happens Albert will be traded. Or, 2) They’ll decide on Dion Jordan, and the Chiefs will work on extending Branden Albert. So when you say, “I’m curious as to why there’s been so little progress with this situation,” my suggestion is that Dorsey is telling the truth, and they haven’t done anything with Albert because they are being excruciatingly diligent, going through their process and making the “best decision for the Kansas City Chiefs.”

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I’ve never been an NFL scout so I’m totally guessing, but…
            I think each phase of the scouting process is probably weighted. I’d imagine that the closer you get to the draft, the less meaningful those phases become. Tape doesn’t lie. That’s typically where you learn the most about a player. Seeing them in the Combine is also beneficial. Meetings are key, but if you haven’t been convinced by the tape or in March, I doubt a meeting will change your mind.

            I’m not even sure I buy this jazz about three meetings a day for the next 16 days. I mean really… There’s only so much you can pore over the information available.

            I think we’ve both made great points, but it’s clear that neither of us is close enough to the situation to know what to expect. The next few weeks will be fun. Let’s chat about this again after the draft.

          • P Heitman

            Haha, definitely. We’ll table this one, dude.

          • ArrowFan

            They have narrowed it down to four players not three.

          • P Heitman

            “Russ Lande reports that his sources have informed him that Kansas City is only considering Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher, Texas A&M Luke Joeckel and Oregon DE/OLB Dion Jordan.”

          • Derek

            you left out star lotulelei in those picks…just wondering has star been ruled-out?

          • Stacy D. Smith

            He is in my book. We have someone in that role already.

          • Derek

            we have a star 3-4 DE? did we aquire JJ watt or something? lol

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Wait…what? Watt weighs 295. Lotulelei weighs 325. Star’s would play the nose in this defense, not on the end.

          • Derek

            it was more a rhetorical smart-ass statement…just syaing that star would be an explosive player for the D-line and last I heard he was a top-5 prospect so I just wondered why you left him out of your picks is all

          • Stacy D. Smith

            For a couple reasons:
            1. Because he’s a nose and we have a young talented nose already that we invested a high #1 in just last year.
            2. Because it would mean moving that young talented nose to DE. Never being allowed to get settled into one role is what hurt him in college.

          • dominicscarlatti

            If, as you suggest in your middle paragraph, the Chiefs franchised BA before ‘concluding their evaluations and setting their draft board’ then wouldn’t that suggest that they did so in order to not only explore trade possibilities but also to guarantee that we might get something back for him?

          • P Heitman

            Yes, you are absolutely right. They had something of value, and knew they could get something for him. But they also knew that he could in fact simply be their left tackle. Andy Reid himself stated that Branden Albert is a “Pro-Bowl Quality” left tackle. Obviously this could be perceived as Reid talking the guy up, and thus his value, however it is also possible that he truly believes that. No team wouldn’t pay a guy 9 million, if they thought he was awful. He can obviously play the position, and at a high level, and there is still a chance that he will play for the Chiefs this year. R&D took that chance.

            I really think they will go with who they decide is the best player available, regardless of position. Franchising Albert ensures that a) they COULD get something back for a good player if the best player available indeed ends up being a tackle, and b) they COULD have a starting caliber left tackle on their roster for the coming season, should the best player available not be a left tackle.

          • Michael Shaw

            I disagree with you on this one Stacy. Dion Jordan has been billed as either a great OLB or a great ILB! I think our secondary is set after this free agency period, so I believe that frees us up to do 1 of 3 things. 1. We sign BA long term, Draft Dion Jordan to play ILB making our LB corps consist of Hali, Jordan, DJ and Houston! 2. We trade BA to someone for a minimum of one 2nd rounder or a maximum of a 2nd rounder this year and conditional 2-4 rounder next year and draft either Joeckel or Fisher or Johnson. 3. We resign BA, trade out of the #1 spot for a swap of firsts, a 2nd, 3rd this year and a 2nd and 4th next year and draft the best player available with our new #1 spot.

            I truly believe that if we get Dion Jordan with our #1 pick he will be one of the most impactfull players we have had in a long time. He is SO versatile that he can both rush the passer AND drop back and cover TE’s or RB’s in the middle of the field. That would make our defense doubly dangerous for guys like Peyton, Phillip and Matt Flynn as they would never know who was rushing them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This makes the defense dangerous and likely gives us some great turnovers and/or field position!!

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Jordan won’t play on the inside in a 3-4.

          • P Heitman

            Yeah, I don’t know about Jordan at ILB.

          • Derek

            all that you said sounds perfect on paper but in reality is Jordan going to be a fit and can sutton put together an effective program that would consist of him. I would hope that sutton has been in reid’s ear about what he would be able to do if they were leaning towards jordan. If it is indeed magic I’ll still love Geno but forgive the choice. If it’s an albert trade for a 2nd and replace him this season with I would think at the very least fisher fuck joeckle then I’ll throw my drink at my laptop and delete all my accounts and leave chiefs kingdom forever as that sounds rediculously incompetent. I’ll still root for them but will not consider myself a fan of such a highly disappointing front-office. drafting a tackle number 1 overall because you decided to fire your already solid tackles makes my head spin and my stomach churn….I realy hope ALL the experts are wrong and this draft is blown but we’ll see how it plays out. Again jordan in theory sounds wonderful though

    • michael carey

      Albert is a mid-tier tackle who wants top-tier money…not worth it, unless he becomes more reasonable.

      • P Heitman

        Agree to disagree. I don’t think that letting up fewer sacks and fewer quarterback pressure than Clady and Jake Long over that last two years isn’t mid-tier. Letting up one sack in a season and having your running back lead the AFC in rushing does not lead me to believe Albert is a mid-tier tackle, either.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Wait…what? He surrendered only 1 sack in 13 games last year.
        He’s a Top 10 left tackle easy.

        • P Heitman

          Thank you ha.

      • KCMikeG

        Mid-tier or top 10 I think Albert will find that no one is going to offer him the big money deal he is looking for and will end up staying here for a more reasonable amount. Win – win.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          I bet he’d take a contract like Duane Brown’s.

  • krayfish

    I’m 100% on board with you about the fictitous Albert situation. Its way blown out of proportion. My impression of his interview on NFL AM was that he was staying away only from voluntary stuff. They weren’t discussing the season or training camp or mandatory team events. They were ONLY discussing his missing of the voluntary portion of the teams events. He said he was not going to attend any of those as long as his situation was up in the air. He DEFINITELY said he WOULD play under the tag if that is how it plays out.

    He has no intention of holding out for God sakes he only skipped voluntary camp and that as Tony Gonzalez said, is the norm for a lot of veterans anyway. Tony G said he never went to any voluntary team stuff. Its not even a big deal, he just wants to let them know as he said, he wants a long term deal and wants to stay in KC. This is not a Darrelle Revis situation and he’s not being a jerk. This is the media making an issue where there is none.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      It’s not the fact that he stayed away from a voluntary workout that has the media intrigued. It’s the reasons he cited for doing so. It’s not a big deal either way though. Just important to note.

  • KCPauly

    Get a deal done with him, so we are not totally painted into a corner come draft day, I am not impressed with R&D so far, come on guys get it together

    • Stacy D. Smith

      We’re already in a corner. There are only 3 or 4 guys worthy of the #1 pick. Two of them play offensive tackle.

      • Jason Seibel

        Exactly, Stacy. And all this BPA be damned, R&D aren’t going to draft somebody that high when they already have someone at that position.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          They will if they’re just leasing Albert for 2013.

          • Jason Seibel

            I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. I meant if they hold onto Albert I don’t see them going after one of the two top tackles. But, who knows? They still have to fill the Winston hole unless Stephenson is the guy which I think he could be.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I still think they could. They haven’t exactly answered the question at Right Tackle. Though I have heard they see Jeff Allen as a RT prospect. We also have Schwartz.

          • dominicscarlatti

            Allen at ORT? That is really interesting, and opens up many new possible outcomes for our OL…or, are the Lilja and Allen rumors smoke from Dorsey to seed the impression among potential trade suitors for our top pick that we are not tied to an OT with that pick?

          • Derek

            you make a solid point could just be the tacticians at work…still with pauly not sold on this new “regime”

          • dominicscarlatti

            No problem at all with that approach, Derek. After all the unconditional love for Pioli and Haley, then Crennel, I think badly burned Chiefs fans will evaluate Reid and Dorsey, quite properly, on results. I think that is a much healthier and more realistic approach.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I’ve actually heard this from someone who has a source with the Chiefs. That’s a real possibility (Allen to RT).

  • Jason Seibel

    Albert’s biggest mistake was opening his mouth and saying he would NOT play right tackle. That made him expendable in the eyes of the coaches/GM.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t play on the right side either.

      • jimfromkcj

        Are you saying that you aren’t a team guy? Football is more of a team sport then any other sport. If A team ever lets the players start picking their positions it will be the end of the NFL.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          There’s a pretty big chasm between what right tackles and left tackles make. Are the Chiefs going to pay him like a left tackle to play on the right side?

          • jimfromkcj

            Stacy, I have made it abundantly clear that I would not pay anyone more than what I could get another guy with equal or better potential to play for. I don’t blame a player when they want the best deal they can get, and I don’t believe in home town discounts at all. But I do recognize it is a business and it is in the best interest of the team to get the best talent for the money that they can.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            So whose side are you on, Albert’s or the team’s?

          • jimfromkcj

            Stacy, why would you ask such a question? I will always be on the Chief’s side. Players come and go, but I am not a fan of a player. I am a Chief’s fan and although I have nothing against a player getting the best deal that he can get, I will always be a guy that expects value for the dollar in all aspects of life and Albert isn’t worth top five LT pay. I don’t see it on the field. I also think Joeckel has an excellent chance at being as good and possibly better than Albert and if we draft him for a 4 year contract at the new Rookie pay scale we will have around 20 million dollars to spend on other players. If we traded Hali for a 2nd rd pick we might be able to get a pass rusher in the second who could get us 6 to 9 sacks a year for a third of the money we are giving Hali and he might even be capable of doing a few of the things that Hali is not very good at.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Who says Albert’s looking for Top 5 money?

        • Michael Shaw

          Not if I was as good as he has been the last three years. The guy has earned the right to say “I play left tackle only!” It doesn’t make him a bad guy or a non-team player. All it shows is that he KNOWS he is a better LT than a RT. As some have stated on this site SEVERAL times, the two positions are not as easily swapped as people think!

          • Derek

            I’m with shaw on this one!

      • Kyle ferguson

        I think it’s less what he said and more how he said it, ya your buddy just got cut your a little upset your not sure if you’ll stay at left tackle you don’t go on twitter and start crying about it. Go talk to Andy and say hey I realize this is a bussines but I really want to stay on the left side and don’t sign your tag if you don’t want to play under it. I guess what I’m saying is be a pro about it

  • JP Esler

    I think we should take Geno Smith because he is the answer to everything! Lets not forget about Geno Smith, hey everyone why aren’t we taking Geno Smith. Have you ever heard of this Geno Smith guy we should take him! Geno Smith! if we don’t take Geno Smith i’m going to poop myself forever and sue Clark Hunt because nothing else makes sense unless we draft Geno Smith #1 overall – Just figured i’d get all the different i want Geno Smith posts out of the way so if anyone feels the need to post something about it just refer to this post, no need to say it again i got ya’ll.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Not sure about Geno, but Eugene Smith? Yeah, I’d take that guy.

    • krayfish

      lol
      thats funny

    • Derek

      i get what you did there but again geno’s more valuable than any tackle….however if Dion Jordan is the guy then I wouldn’t be upset either

      • Jason

        I would have to disagree. If anyone does any research on Geno you will see if he plays half decent defenses in college his stats go WAY down. Teams he has high percentage completion games and high td games that team has 6+ other QB’s that did the same thing to them not named Geno Smith, in fact, bet ya never even heard of them. I agree i would prefer not to take an offensive tackle #1 but at least he’s not over hyped.

        • Derek

          His numbers might have gone down but still VERY respectable. If you were to take his worst 3 games in his 2012 season and combine them his total yardage in those 3 games is still 622 yards, 4 tds, 2 picks….that’s not actually THAT terrible. In fact, I bet every QB in the league would have very similar or even worse numbers if you combined their worst 3 games. What say you to argue about that, sir? by the way I took an averge of that information: averages to be 208 yds a game (yes I rounded up but you have to in real life) and a passer rating of 118….yeah that’s better than A LOT of QBs have on good days even. But thanks for playing :P oh and as a comparison lets take the average of his 3 best: he averages 492 yards a game has 11 tds and 1 pick and a passer rating of 246 per game!!!! THOSE stats are absolutely INSANE….so he’s either incredible or breaks even doing it by himself and two great receivers. Give him a complete team D and oline and a run game and TEs and he’s going to surprise everyone

          • Jason

            Stacy, yes he did play bad teams for the first 3 years remember he was in the Big East who has….WHO exactly? then he moved to the big 12… yeah SOOOO many great defenses there right?! Also your stats show that you can say the same thing for Case Keenum from houston 2 years ago… whats he doing these days?

          • Derek

            my name isn’t stacy lol but thanks for your input and that was my point so since ppl are singling him out based 3 games that he wasn’t super in–still very respectable mind you–he could compare to ANY otehr QB ever including those best of the best that went number 1 overall. Was just trying to give a mathematical approach to justifying him and giving you a quantitative reason why he should still be in top pick consideration. Which I did accomplish mind you. Also, the big 12 is good! texas, oklahoma, k-state, baylor used to be good also….yeah so there was legitimate competition there. Also in the past WV has beaten clemson and LSU under Geno Smith who looked stellar on those days as well. But for the most part ppl are only considering his 2012 season which he was more spectacular than any other QB not just in this draft but in all! LOL

          • Derek

            and note i’m not jsut a geno-phile. I do love him because he gives me something to believe in for that future BUT as it sits now I’ve leaned to Jordan because he helps impact the team right away

        • Stacy D. Smith

          So he just played a bunch of bad defenses the four years of his collegiate career?

      • Stacy D. Smith

        He is because he plays the most important positi8on on the field AND he’s the best quarterback in the class.

  • jimfromkcj

    I would imagine that the Chiefs will hold out for 2 picks as long as they think they can. Let’s hope they don’t screw up and are not even able to trade him for 1 pick. I see no benefit in keeping him. He will be paid much more than he is worth if you take into consideration that we can draft Joeckel and pay him about a third of what we are paying Albert. And if we get a 2nd rd pick for Albert we will be able to get another instant starter to further upgrade the team. We could possibly get Barret Jones with that 2nd pick and pick up Faulk to play RT and we would be a pretty good Off line of LT Joeckel, LG Schwartz, OC Jones, RG Asamoah and RT Faulk. This line could be elite in a couple of years and the division might be ours for the taking once Peyton retires.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Why are you counting Hudson out?

      • jimfromkcj

        Stacy I just don’t see Hudson getting any bigger, and I have serious doubts that he can retain 299 lbs if he is starting. I think that each off lineman must be able to play his position without help. I doubt that Hudson will be able to do that. I prefer a power blocking scheme with big athletic linemen. Faulk weighs 330 and has a history of playing really well as a LT. We need equal talent on both ends of the off line if we are going to build an elite line.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Excellent point. Hudson may be a Casey Wiegmann type who fades down the stretch as he’s unable to maintain his playing weight at the beginning of the year. Touche.

    • Chief Hokie

      Faulk no

      • jimfromkcj

        Give me a better answer than just a no. Why?

    • ArrowFan

      You also run a rick that Joeckel is a bust.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        The same risk they’d be taking with Jordan or Smith.

        • Derek

          that’s what I’ve been saying ANY player can bust so gamble on one that at least pays-out dividends if they do succeed. I would alright with Jordan but I’m still sold that Eugene Smith is the best potential pick in th draft for KC

  • dioxintribe

    Chiefs have been playing a winning hand this off-season and they control the river card. Too much ado about nothing. Either Albert is traded or he does what he is told. Joeckel isn’t a sexy (non-boring) pick, but he is the BEST pick. I wouldn’t guess that Dorsey and Reid are checking blogs for insight.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      The Chiefs do control the top pick, but let’s not pretend that they have unlimited options available. They’re not in a position to trade down and there are probably only four guys they can take if they stand pat.

      Of course they aren’t soliciting AA for draft advice, but neither are we writing in hopes that they are. We’re simply providing a place for well reasoned takes on this team’s path to the NFL Draft (among other team-specific topics).

      • Michael Shaw

        And most of us appreciate it Stacy!!

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Thank you, sir!

  • Chief Hokie

    Why don’t we just let him play under the tag and see how his back holds up? If he has another solid year then you can sign him long term. If not, then draft a LT next year or sign one in free agency. Problem solved.

    • kmon

      I’m against trading albert buut I think they are looking at it like he has value now. so if they let him play under the tag then he might get hurt or not play as well as last yr, Then they would let him walk next yr for free when they couldve gotten something for him this yr. its all about value although I’m against trading him

      • Chief Hokie

        He’s much more valuable to us as our long term LT than if we were to trade him for a 2nd and use that number one pick to simply replace him. If we sign him long term we can use that number 1 pick to add talent rather than replace it.

        • kmon

          totally agree wit u, I dont want a replacement, I’d rather have Albert. but that was my guess of whyeveryone feels different

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Either way we’ll get a starting-caliber player. If he’s traded you can always get your new ILB in Round 2.

          • Derek

            well who would you take at ILB in round 2? kevin minter? arthur brown? Personally I like kiko alonso with our compensatory 3rd and with the first 3rd would like steadman bailey so him and geno have chemistry ;)

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Ogletree or Minter.

          • Derek

            right but alonso isn’t that far behind those two so we wouldnt’ lose that much value by using a compensatory to grab him

          • Stacy D. Smith

            He’s not, but it still works out to one less draft pick (player) if Albert isn’t traded.

        • Derek

          this!^^^ increase the talent on the roster don’t just replace what we have; that’s essentially just a side-step and creates the same kinda team we already have that is aalready mediocre lol

          • superman_25_58

            It’s not don’t replace what we already have……….. It’s don’t create a unnecessary hole by replacing a top proven LT with an unproven rookie LT with a valuable #1 pick when you can let the already proven LT play on the tag and put some top tier talent in other spots of need like LB/WR/S(in no specific order).

        • Stacy D. Smith

          The Chiefs would be “adding talent” with the R2 they get in return for him. We don’t lose much, position-wise, by trading him. We just use the R2 instead of the R1 to add a new player. We’d also save a significant amount of cap space (giving us the option to add even more talent).

      • Stacy D. Smith

        For me, it’s simple math. Either you think he’s healthy enough for the long-term deal or you don’t. If you don’t, trade him, draft Joeckel, and use your recovered R2 to address one of the other need areas on this team.

        • dominicscarlatti

          Stacy, I think you’re spot on correct that the most we can hope for in a trade is a 2nd rounder in this draft. This situation is more likely to be resolved as we get close to the draft, but I doubt we’ll see anything happen for another week or maybe two.

        • TAZMOSIS

          You keep saying trade him. To whom?

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Miami was interested. San Diego’s ears might also perk up if we lower our demands.

          • Derek

            lol what’s lower than a single r2 pick?? especially at what are they number 11 or 12? yeah no way jose! we had better get future draft picks plus r2 back then. If the only thing he’s worth is a single r2 then he hasn’t any value. sign him long term or he plays under the franchise for a year and we address his replacement later. This is not teh year to worry about albert….Besides isn’t it more likely he has a BETTER season under better play-calling and coaching than he had so his value would only go up after this season????

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Reports suggested that the Chiefs wanted an R2 plus future considerations. Not gonna happen. Take the second rounder and dash.

          • Jim Harper

            Absolutely right.

          • Derek

            so our “pro-bowl quality” LT is only worth a 2nd rounder?! that’s plain awful news….I don’t buy that for a minute.

          • Danny W

            I know Reid said the guy was pro bowl quality but he’s never even come close to making one pro bowl. Just saying.

          • Derek

            well I think that is a bias one because the pro-bowl is awful and doesn’t necessarily pick the best player it’s a concensus thing based on ratings by fans is it not? Pretty positive 99% of ppl who watch sports don’t vote on every player survey they come across and would rather watch the games on sunday than pick their nominations of best this/that since it’s just an opinion if this is fact how it works. BUT for a head coach to say you’re a pro-bowler should mean more than what a fan thinks don’t you think?

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Then why’d you use that as a barometer in your previous post?

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            I think both sides of the trade transaction are just keeping their options open for now. There’s no need to trade your second rounder today when there’s still time to negotiate free agents and such. You can just as easily make it happen the day before the draft or on the day of the first round. I know all of us fans would like to see picture become clearer, but the silence doesn’t mean that the trade is becoming less likely.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Not much is going to change over the next 15 days.

          • superman_25_58

            Lol that is a WASTE of EVERYTHING. Trade Albert a proven LT for just a 2nd round pick and drafting his replacement with the #1 pick? How is this team getting any better by doing this? We need a play maker with the #1 pick not OL.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Couple things…
            1. We’d be swapping a left tackle out they don’t think warrants a long-term deal for a younger cheaper tackle they think has more upside.

            2. We’d be recovering that R2 pick and probably drafting a starting-caliber player with it.

            I can see the benefits of that.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Not a bad idea, but it is possible that if he goes into the year without a long-term deal he won’t sign one later. We’ve seen that happen before.

  • ArrowFan

    If the presumed BPA in the draft where a WR we would swapping Bowe with Albert in this article. The game that is played during the off season is as just as important (if not more than) as the game that is played on Sundays. I;m not sure if we are dead set on drafting one of the high LT at this point or not. What is so wrong with signing Albert to a long term contract and drafting something else other than a LT high in the draft? I think Dorsey just wants to keep his options open to see if we can trade out of the top spot. If we trade out we keep Albert long term if we cant trade out then we replace Albert either this year or next with the player we pick.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      If you couldn’t tell, left tackle is the last position I want to see this team address with the R1 pick.

      • TAZMOSIS

        I’m confused about what you said in back to back sentences. You say that there probably is not a trade partner out there. Then you immediately respond with they should trade him? So if they don’t find a team willing to move up, how low should the Chiefs go in an effort to make a trade happen? My take is this. R&D have a come-to-Jesus with BA and just say “Look Brandon. We just gave you left tackle money, like 10 mil. Now we need you to be a team guy, come in and work, and, by the way, you are our new right tackle. If, after the season you still want to play the left side, we will do our best to find a team that needs you.”
        By Albert holding out his services to the new regime shows a complete lack of commitment on his part. Hell man, they gave you the dough, now get into camp, prove your worthiness, and good things will happen.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          I made reference to two different kinds of trades. We won’t have a trade partner for the top overall pick, but there are parties interested in acquiring Albert.

          Moving him to right tackle makes no sense at all. Geoff Schwartz can play there and he’s a good offensive lineman.

          • http://twitter.com/RusselAzul Russel Azul

            Also, moving albert to RT is basically saying “screw you” to him because time and time again he has said he only wants to play left tackle. doing this would ensure he would only be in KC for one more year

    • redchiefs

      I couldn’t agree more, the off season, especially this off season is pretty crucial. R&D looked at the talent on the roster, and what was probably out there in FA, and immediately said they wanted to keep Bowe, Albert, and Colquitt. They got Bowe and Colquitt signed and ran out of time for BA, hence the tag. Perhaps I’d used the non exclusive tag to allow him to seek the best deal then negotiate something better, but that’s just me. Coach Reid has said all along he wants BA, likes how BA plays, and thinks BA plays at a pro bowl level. I’d say that should be motivation to show up, work out, and let the agent work on the long term deal.BA signed the tender and is going to make 9.85mil this year, that is commitment too. I sure couldn’t or wouldn’t tell my boss, hey you gave me a 40% pay raise for this year, I’ll take your money, but I wont show up for any extra work, you don’t seem to want me?
      Now, I know there are rumors about a possible trade. But, for 9.85mil, and it possibly being in Miami where there are beaches and warm breezes, I think I’d be in the weight room with the biggest smile all day long. I sure wouldn’t be upset and not showing up. I’d be making sure I could do my job, keep Alex up right so we can go get some championships. I sure won’t be a positive factor if I’m not learning the new playbook and getting my back ready for another season. Come on BA, be part of the solution

    • http://twitter.com/RusselAzul Russel Azul

      Even if we do end up trading albert I still think we shouldnt draft a LT at #1, the draft is deep at Tackle, but you cant get a Dion Jordan or Ansah in the later rounds…

  • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.messina.75 Thomas Messina

    While you are wondering about Albert, toss in the Star is reporting the Chiefs are talking to Lilja about returning for another year.
    I trust Dorsey/Reid to get the team together but getting Lilja for another year is a mystery and to keep Albert and add Fischer or Joechel seems a waste of roster spots. And getting Lilja is odd thinking unless they dislike another current OL or have an injury that is not going to be fixed by training camp or the season.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Maybe this means they want Schwartz at right tackle? Then Lilja could stay at left guard.

      • dominicscarlatti

        Makes perfect sense, unless they think Lilja could provide cover at center, another position of some need.

      • Danny W

        Jeff Allen played right tackle in college so maybe they’re thinking he can step over and Scwartz can fill his roll?

    • Michael Shaw

      Maybe they want Lilja to come in as a back up to Hudson at Center?? Schwartz is just as adamant that he wants to play inside as Albert is about playing LT.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Good point.

  • http://www.facebook.com/genemyuk Gene Yuknis

    first of all branden albert is supposed to make 9 million dollars this year!!!!! second, he plays in the NFL, which stands for NOT FOR LONG. if he’s going to piss and moan as a chief for 9 mil, who the hell wants him !!

    • Stacy D. Smith

      That’s not long-term security though. That’s what he’s looking for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.pinczer Ryan Pinczer

    Personally i hope they get Dion Jordan and trade or drop Hali! Sounds crazy but look at Hali last year! Houston had more sacks and Hali is a liability in the pass game! Jordan can do about any thing as a 3/4 OLB! Hes expslosive and can play the pass very well for a big guy! Hes also younger.. Much younger, but most likely they are goin to take Joekel and wait and see if the dolphins can get lane johnson via trade cuz if they cant they are gonna be willing to put up a 2nd rounder for him cuz they need a starting caliber LT after the loss of Long! Just my opinion!

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I stopped reading after “drop Hali.” #justsaying

      • KCMikeG

        Could any of the three of them slide inside with DJ? Or could Sutton be thinking “outside of the box” on how he could use Jordan?

        • Stacy D. Smith

          Jordan will be out of place inside. We really don’t have a guy like that on the roster. We should either sign McClain or draft a guy like Ogletree, Minter, or Alonso.

          • Derek

            mcclain…rolando mcclain of the raiders….???!!!! ughhh…..this might be the one real time I have to disagree with ya stace lol. Maybe it was the organization or lack there of that ruined mcclain’s career but he’s seemed to be about as big a bust as there ever was one lol

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Because in classic Raider fashion, they had him playing out of position. He’s perfect for ILB in a 3-4.

          • Derek

            so we’re blaming that fate of the raiders draft picks being squandered based on the organization; okay i’ll buy it if you can claim what should be the case with Jmarc lol

          • Danny W

            Over at Raider Pride they have several articles on him brother. He’s a punk. He will have a hard time finding a team to take him I’m absolutely sure of it. This guy has Pac Man Jones blushing with some of the stupid crap he’s pulling.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            He just signed with the world champion Baltimore Ravens.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.pinczer Ryan Pinczer

        Well i did say trade also but guess u must have missed that! Hali isnt gettin any younger and hes due 15.3 mill this year.. Just after last year dont think someone should get that kind of money especially if he is a liability in the pass game!

        • Stacy D. Smith

          You did. Though I kind of dismissed that, as you won’t be able to trade him with such a high cap number.

  • Michael Shaw

    I understand Branden’s desire to get a long term deal, I really do. I am just wondering if the team has been told something by the team doctors about Branden’s back that has made them leery of signing him long term?? After what Pittsburgh did to James Harrison and what GB has done, or not done, to Charles Woodson or the lack of interest Baltimore showed in Ed Reed, I am convinced that NO team will show ANY player the loyalty they right should. If I owned a team and a guy has done the job BA has for us, then I try to get him signed long term and draft Joeckel or Jordan. I only say Joeckel because he would solidify our tackle position for years to come. I know he is a LT, but we could use him at RT until BA starts to slide then, we can either trade BA away or work a deal for him to slide to RT and move Joeckel to LT not have any real impact issues for the OL.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      If they are sitting on medical information that concerns them, why give him $9.8 million this year? I would’ve let him walk.

      • Jim Harper

        What makes more sense to me is they wanted to trade him all along so they could get something for him. In order for that to happen he has to be under contract to them, hence the franchise tag.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          You can’t risk getting stuck with that $9.8 million if you really don’t want him here. I’d prefer they signed him then traded him (though really rare in the NFL).

          • Jim Harper

            Maybe we are over thinking this. They franchised him because they were running out of time, but then Albert wanted top five money and nobody is going to pay him that. He had a good year last year, but that was his first good year. All kinds of things could be going on. I still trust R&D are going to get it right eventually.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            2012 may have been his best, but it certainly wasn’t his first quality season. The staff had two full months to evaluate these players and make a decision on forthcoming free agents. I’m not sure I buy them being short on time.

      • dominicscarlatti

        He may have been cleared during his medical, but with the caveat that a particular trauma on any given physical contact could retrigger the problem from last season. I think that would be fairly typical for many lower back conditions. But hey, that’s pure supposition on my part…!

        • Stacy D. Smith

          So again if they’re concerned that he can’t stay healthy, let him walk. Or lower your trade demands and move that $9.8 million cap number off your books.

  • clay simester

    I have an idea, trade Albert for a 2nd round pick, use the money we’d save by trading him on one of the better FA right tackles like Tyson Clabo or Andre Smith. Then draft Joeckel 1st overall. Then we’d have our bookend tackles and our 2nd round pick back while also getting younger on the O-line

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I like this idea a lot.

      • clay simester

        If i were to put all reasoning aside though, man i’d love to see Jordan or Ansah in a Chiefs jersey. Athletic freaks are so fun to have on your team, you can do about anything with them!

        • http://twitter.com/RusselAzul Russel Azul

          If we could sign Albert to a long term deal we could do this! Best player available/somewhat need/sexy pick would be awesome! Id love to see either of them playing for the Red and Gold

    • Derek

      that actualy isn’t a bad idea except change “joeckle” to “fisher’ and i’ll jump on this

  • Derek

    a single r2 pick!? you’re outta your damn mind. The guy is a true veteran and has been rated a top 12-10 tackle in the league and only gave up one sack the whole season….this article is a SIN! Worst case scenario you get to 2nds from miami plus a third. Or from another team a 2nd this year and 1st and 3rd next

    • Danny W

      Why do that when Fisher Joeckel and Johnson are by most professionals standards already better. Albert is never going to be better than top 15.

      • Derek

        why do that if one of them busts!? it’s a gamble. why gamble on a for sure thing. Try something that’ll improve the team Geno or Jordan. Anything less is unacceptable…god this draft is FUCKEDDDD.

  • Danny W

    I have to agree. I think Albert has been extremely unprofessional about all of this though and want him traded off of this ball club. I think he will become toxic because of the new chip on his shoulder with the ball club. The only way we get even a second rounder for him though is if Chicago Miami or San Diego don’t find the guy they want in this draft and we let him go for one second rounder.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Meh, I’m not so sympathetic towards Albert nor am I worried about whether or not he is now disgruntled. Every NFL team has at least one player every offseason who wants clarity, a long-term deal, a trade, or a locker closer to the showers and is using the accepted NFL negotiation chips to leverage that — absence at workouts, vague expressions of discontent in media, etc. For Albert, he just needs to be an adult and understand that the Chiefs are in a position where they are probably stuck at the #1 spot and the best pick there is a young franchise left tackle. Meanwhile, he is expensive and has some question marks after his recent injury. To use an imperfect analogy, he is Manning and Joeckel is Andrew Luck. The team is currently evaluating their options and not all the chips are going to fall until after the draft. Screw hurt feelings, this is a job and he has to respect that the front office guys are doing theirs, which in this situation does hold him in a bit of offseason limbo. So be it. In his defense, however, I also can understand him not wanting to come in for a “voluntary” week of work to crunch and memorize Reid’s offense and terminology if there is a good chance he is about to be traded to a different team, after which that knowledge will be useless.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      I don’t think Albert’s concern is over how they’re going to use the #1 pick, so long as he stays at left tackle and gets a long-term deal.

      • NicholasAlanClayton

        But those two things are obviously related. We’re not drafting a long-term right tackle at #1 overall. Also Joeckel’s skill set makes him better on the left than right and it’s the only side he’s played on.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          We could just as easily draft a player at another position. They know now what they want to do with Albert. No rookie is going to decide his future with Kansas City.

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            That’s an interesting notion. I still think Dion Jordan would be a great pickup.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I think he’s a good football player, but can you ever draft a player #1 overall, who doesn’t play the quarterback position, that won’t be an immediate starter?

          • NicholasAlanClayton

            Sure, I’d rather have him rack up 8-10 sacks in a rotation with Houston and Hali than have the league’s highest-drafted right tackle. Unless you’re going to draft a guard, Ogletree, or Milliner and then bench one of our big FA signings, then whoever the Chiefs pick is going to be a rotational player going into the season. If you build a solid roster and draft the best player available, then that doesn’t matter.

  • http://twitter.com/RusselAzul Russel Azul

    Im just going to put this out there. No, Im not a huge fan of the non-sexy pick of Joeckel, Id prefer Dion Jordan or Ansah, BUT even if this ends up being the pick, the bright side is that it makes Alex Smith play better. A solid O-line with a lot of depth can make more difference than any one player that we draft could. It’s a solid plan despite its lack of sexiness

  • big chief 43years

    trade him for a second rd.pick and go on we dont need a negative start.they pay him 9.8 million he should play for the practice squad if the chiefs want

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Wait…what? The practice squad?

  • big chief 43years

    Albert knows the situation he signed his tag its good for one year so show up to all the practices.He knew it was a good deal. The chiefs could get four good players for what he is getting paid.The bit about the practice squad if he does not want to commit.We have second or third stringers that would be very happy to give it a chance.

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