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KC Chiefs Fascination With Geno Smith: Just A Smokescreen?

Earlier today, Mr. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network and, reported that the Kansas City Chiefs are reportedly “fascinated” with West Virginia QB, Geno Smith. According to Rapoport, KC’s scouts look at Smith and are reminded of the first QB Chiefs head coach Andy Reid drafted when he was head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, Donovan McNabb.

As you can imagine, the news sent a bit of a shockwave through the Chiefs Kingdom. Some outlets, like Pro Football Talk and Arrowhead Pride, basically called the news a bunch of BS.

Take Joel Thorman over at AP:

My hunch tells me that last line in the report above is complete BS. Just not true. Everything — EVERYTHING — has pointed to Alex Smith as the quarterback of the future. What sources or Chiefs scouts say doesn’t matter. All that matters is what the Chiefs do. And what they’ve done is give up two draft picks for Alex Smith. Remember that press conference where John Dorsey said they’re confident Smith would be in KC for years to come? Was he just making that up? Was that not true? I have a hard time believing he made that trade and doesn’t believe Smith is here for the long-term.

And Mike Florio at Pro Football Talk:

Per Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Chiefs scouts are “fascinated” by Geno Smith, and they’re comparing him to a young Donovan McNabb.

If that’s true, then the Chiefs blew it by trading for Alex Smith. The more likely reality is that the Chiefs are now puffing, in the hopes of getting someone to make a Redskins-style move by a few spots to get the guy the Chiefs already decided they don’t want long — but currently are pretending that they do.

Even well-respected, Chiefs blogger, Patrick Allen of the terrific FanSided Chiefs site, Arrowhead Addict, has his doubts:

The Chiefs hold the No. 1 pick and it has been reported that they are interested in trading back. One way to increase the value of the pick is to make teams think that the Chiefs are seriously considering selecting Smith. That could force one of the QB-desperate teams behind KC, like Buffalo for instance, to panic and put together a big package to swap spots with KC.

The quotes about McNabb are especially interesting. Everyone knows Andy Reid selected McNabb in his first draft with the Eagles so putting it out there that the Chiefs see a lot of McNabb in Smith could cause just enough doubt to get the Chiefs the trade they are looking for.

It would be a bold and perhaps foolish exercise for the Chiefs to give up, potentially two second-round picks for Alex Smith, only to draft his eventual replacement with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. If KC really were to take Geno Smith, how long would they realistically sit him behind Alex? One year? Two?

Alex Smith’s contract wouldn’t be that hard to get out of but the Chiefs would still have a hard time getting those second-round picks back. It just seems like the Chiefs would be giving up too much for Alex Smith, if the man they really wanted was Geno Smith.

I reached out to the man who brought us all this news, Ian Rapoport, to get a feeling for what he thinks is really going on here. Rapoport said he doesn’t think this is necessarily a smokescreen and he feels KC’s interest in Geno Smith is genuine.

“My sense is they are very open,” said Raport via Twitter. “They really like Geno Smith. But like him more than (Luke) Joeckel, (Dee) Milliner, etc? Too early.”

It is interesting that Ian says that it is too early but because most folks assume that teams already pretty much have their minds made up and their draft boards set.

But according to Rapoport’s report from this morning, KC doesn’t have their draft board set. Yet.

Coach Andy Reid and general manager John Dorsey have been methodical and thorough in their search. After the final two visits for the top spot, they’ll settle in and set their board. While the league-wide assumption is that they will take Joeckel, the Chiefs are at least exploring every option before making a pick.

The visits Rapoport is talking about in the quote are that of Geno Smith and Alabama CB, Dee Milliner.

Later in his report, Rapport explains that despite trading a high pick for Alex Smith, if KC believes Geno Smith is the top player on they’re board, they’ll take him.

Though they did trade for former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Alex Smith, the Chiefs wouldn’t think twice about having Geno Smith on the bench behind Alex Smith for a short amount of time if he were determined to be the top overall player.

If we are to believe Rapoport’s report, and what he told me on Twitter this afternoon, the Andy Reid and John Dorsey haven’t made up their minds about anything yet.

Which would mean if Geno Smith can convince them that he is the best player on their board in his private workout, the Chiefs could very well select him.

Yes, it is lying season in the NFL. Yes, the Chiefs stand to benefit frm not only feigning interest in Geno Smith, but also by boosting his draft stock by talking about how wonderful he is.

Still, we would be lying if we said we knew absolutely what the Chiefs were planning. Reid and Dorsey have surprised us a number of times this offseason, so while Geno Smith to the Chiefs is probably very unlikely, I recommend staying on your toes.

Just in case.

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  • Arrowhead Magic

    It won’t hurt my feeling if they draft Geno

    • Da Menace

      No doubt! Just wish they’d get this OT position clear soon.

  • Chris Tarrants

    You sound a little butt hurt over the whole thing. I wonder if this isn’t a conflict between Dorsey and Reid, Reid wanting Geno to mentor and Dorsey wanting bpa? Either way it is exciting to be concerned about if we are giving up too much for a bounty of good quarterbacks! Something that I can’t ever remember happening at arrowhead unless you count people wanting to see Thigpin play over Croyle but let’s not get those emotions running about that time period again

  • shayaan

    i like the fact that the chiefs are bringing him in – at least they will have a very good idea of what he brings to the table, whether they draft him or not.

    • Doug McD

      They will trade the 1-1 for picks and Albert for picks, we will be set just right at every position after the draft ends. I think we will get more picks back and break even or positive after all is said and done. Including the pick we gave up next year in the Alex Smith trade.

  • Chris Foosman

    Why are you citing those losers? I put the same sentiment in the comments of the Milliner report. You’re welcome by the way.

    • Travis Forsyth

      hey, i thought thigpen play pretty well. compared to huard, croyle,& greene that is….

  • Travis Forsyth

    hmm. pretty good smoke screen by kc. however, if it isn’t it would add some real depth to the QB position and looking back on Alex Smith’s history, he hasn’t finished and single season since being drafted in 05 (except for the 06 and 11 seasons) whether that was do to injury or being benched. so if Alex was to go down in 2013 (which he may) who would you want to rely on as your back QB? not Chase Daniel and i jumped off the Ricky Stanzi band wagon a long time ago. if we don’t draft Geno to back up Alex, then i’ll be rooting for Alex Tanney in training camp to get the back up role and hopefully Stanzi get cut after pre-season. sorry Iowa fans…

    • Joe Myers

      hold on now we really dont know about chase on the NFL level and he’s been behind brees I’ll say lets see what he’s got if Alex goes down

      • sidibeke

        Agree. Depth chart going in would have to be A Smith, Daniel and G Smith.

      • KCMikeG

        It will be a very interesting camp competition at QB if Geno is our pick. Finally we will have strength and depth at a critical position!

  • Jim Harper

    I can promise you that interest in Geno @ #1 is nothing but posturing. If they actually did something like that then they would lose all credibility with any future deals. There is only one scenario where the Chiefs draft Geno, and that would be to trade him to the highest bidder, but there is no way they keep him.

    • Chief Hokie

      How would they lose credibility? They have the number one pick they can do whatever they want with it!

    • sidibeke

      By losing credibility, do you assume they signed A Smith with the understanding he was their guy and then to draft Geno would make future FAs leary? I do wonder what drafting Geno would do to Alex’s mindset; competition is good; controversy is not.

  • sidibeke

    I would have no problem with KC taking Smith #1. With Smith, Daniels and Smith, I think KC might actually be set at the most important position on the field. If they do, however, it seems like they had better sign Albert to a l-t deal and use the #3 pick on a RT.

    • dominicscarlatti

      This makes perfect sense to me…

    • KCMikeG

      Right. Why wouldn’t we want starter caliber players at the most important position on the field?? Who knows maybe they will break the mold and develop GS with AS and play two QB’s.

      Used to be in the NFL old school days teams had a workhorse who carried the team with their emphasis on the run but now most teams have running back by committee. The RB position has evolved could the QB be next??

      • Troy Utt

        Interesting point you make about the running back by commitee, as the QB could evolve into this scheme… I know we have all entertained the same thoughts about this new “Read Offense”. Of course opinions vary thru the NFL with traditional QB’s such as Rodgers in GB was quoted saying he felt it was just a fad. But the one I thought was interesting, that really made me stop and think. Mike Tomlin head coach of the Pittsburg Steelers said, “Do you really want your QB getting hit like that? Basically running unprotected that many times a game? If you are running this pistol offense, we look forward to seeing you on the field!” I am para-phrasing, but you get the meaning…Pretty bold statement, but it really made me stop and think! We keep a couple extra running backs in the stable, and could still be productive! But say we had pinned our hopes on Geno, kept Cassel, and ran this pistol like so many are doing. May be a bit off point, but when I saw your comment it made me think of his recent interview…

  • Joe Myers

    if they draft Geno the chiefs will be set for now and the future

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Chiefs are trying to drum up a trade market for the #1 pick.

  • Outback Chief

    Maybe it is Smoke but they will draft the best player on their board and if it’s Geno we will have 3 good QB’s and they can trade them for draft picks at any time. If Geno pans out then that’s all we asked for was a QB that can lead the way.

  • KCMikeG

    Micah where are you? Are you alright? Keep the faith brother!

    You know what? Even if it is a smokescreen to drive up the price on a trade down then great job R&D! If they take Geno then great job again because as much as we think that AS is the QBOTF what if Geno can beat him out in camp? Then we have a starter quality back up in case the rookie stumbles. Or what if AS gets hurt? That has happened a time of two in his career. Wouldn’t it be great to have the top QB prospect who has been developed in our system step in to keep us winning? Or we could always trade either one of them for multiple picks – this year and/or next.

    There are OT picks who could very well win a starting position in the 2nd & 3rd rounds like Watson, Long, Pugh & Armstead. We may end up keeping Albert or signing Smith in FA too. i think Albert may find out that he’s not going to get the payday he wants out there either. Some think Don Stephenson could be ready at RT.

    The investment is not that much. A 1st and two 2nd’s for two starting players at the most important position on the field. I think it is about time that the Chiefs start placing the importance on the QB position it deserves. We would only have $10-$12M in two starting QB’s Many have paid more than that for one guy that didn’t work. I say great job R&D! Keep on bring it! I can’t wait for the draft!

    • Patrick Allen

      I mean look what happened in Seattle. They traded for a starting money QB and sat him on the bench behind their 3rd round draft pick.

      You just never know what will happen.

      • KCMikeG

        Flynn had a puddle of real time game work compared to Alex Smith having learned how to swim in the deep end. For not more than $1M a year I will take that gladly. The new position for Childress deepens the Geno Smith possibility. IMO Reid & Staff are cooking up some seriously exciting strategies. Who knows maybe they use them both? The RB position has become a platoon approach. If nothing else why wouldn’t you want a starter to step in if your #1 goes down? Instead of some never will be or scrambling in FA for a QB no one wanted before the season started. Yuck! Enough of that for the Chiefs!

  • Ian French

    QB is a make or break your team position. This is no grand scheme of deception, but just a power move to create more leverage with the first pick. I think it works, bc it’s not a bluff. We take Geno or we get a trade.. Winning…

    • Patrick Allen

      Good point.

  • Tom Antrim

    The Chiefs are horse trading this pick and it is obvious they have gotten out the spray paint and polish to get this guy really shiny.

  • ArrowFan

    Draft him

  • Stacy D. Smith

    I think it’s possible that the Chiefs are VERY serious about Smith. Remember that former Eagles’ scout Brett Veach just joined the team 3 weeks ago. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if the Chiefs are playing some last minute “shuffleboard.”