Chiefs Stars Are A-Lining

The future? It’s here. It’s now.

There’s no indication that the Kansas City Chiefs new handlers are building to succeed for the future, instead, they expect to win pronto. Every step John Dorsey and Andy Reid have taken from the time of their hire, has been aimed towards the idea of winning and winning now.

They are already winning the off season.

While the team started out this off season with many questions on many sides of the ball, the main questions now appear to only be related to the Chiefs offensive line. Sure, a middle linebacker is a must and depth is needed at other positions but, the focus clearly appears to have narrowed down to the offensive line.

Even on the offensive line front: the stars are aligning.

The Chiefs have taken care of… their Pro Bowl punter… their top 5 WR… and shored up their defensive secondary. As far as the first pick in the draft goes, there’s been a debate about who needs the help more, the defensive or offensive line but, the choice which appears to be emerging is, an offensive tackle.

Since the 3-4 defense is staying, and the 4-3 is only going to be utilized occasionally, the current personnel on defense won’t need as much tweaking. Andy Reid offenses are typically endowed with huge offensive linemen and so this helps narrow the focus of concern on the parts of Reid and Dorsey.

Fans should probably view the change needed along the offensive line that’s taking place by going from Romeo Crennel to Andy Reid, just as significant a change as the defensive line underwent by changing from the 4-3 to the 3-4, four seasons ago.

However, only one part of that transition has taken place so far: Eric Winston out and Geoff Schwartz in.

New OL acquisition Geoff Schwartz (6-6, 340) fits right into the power OL mold and should be considered the only lineman who we know for sure is exactly what Reid wants. Sam Monsoon of ProFootBallFocus.com says Schwartz could be a future Pro Bowler,

“Each year some of the best moves of free agency occur at the bargain end of the spectrum. I thought Schwartz moving to the Vikings last year had the potential to be one of those, but an injury derailed his chance to start at right guard, and he had to make do with being rotated in during the season for the underperforming Brandon Fusco. Despite clearly outplaying the starter the Vikings never made the switch and Schwartz moved on in free agency to Kansas City.

This might sound familiar, in that it is a story remarkably similar to that of Evan Mathis, an underrated player who split time but couldn’t buy the starting gig until he moved to a new team. The Chiefs have signed a player with legitimate Pro-Bowl potential if he can get a fair chance to earn the job on merit, and they have done so for peanuts.”

Considering that coach Reid is proclaiming LT Branden Albert a Pro Bowl talent while simultaneously dangling him as trade bait, you get the idea that if Albert were exactly the kind of offensive lineman he wanted, he’d never be shopped or shipped.

Although, Albert’s fate may have more to do with his value being tied to a large one-year franchise tag contract. If he was truly a proto-type-Andy-dandy-OL-monster, Reid would be making public address announcements about keeping Albert.

Instead, Reid is hyping Albert’s value for one purpose and one purpose only: to trade him. Coaches usually stay away from hyping the value of a player, especially in that player’s contract year because a player can always come back at negotiation time and use the coaches own words to leverage what he expects to sign for. This is the main reason you should see Reid’s public praise of Albert’s talents… as a sign that he wants to trade him… and for that purpose only.

While Albert has stated that he’s publicly been unwilling to move to another position, trading Albert gives Reid the flexibility he wants without making his players unhappy. Reid appears true to his word when he says he wants to put the 5 best OL on the field. While on one hand it’s refreshing for fans to hear players like Albert speaking out… like most other GMs and coaches, Dorsey & Reid don’t want players dictating to them what they can or can’t do with a player in terms of where they want to play that player on the field.

What does this say about the other offensive linemen on the Chiefs roster? Probably that no one is safe, except for Mr. Geoff May The Schwartz Be With You.

Some have questioned how the Chiefs can give up possibly two second rounders for a QB and then place him behind a line made up of mostly unproven talent… and expect to win? You can count on Dorsey and Reid to have a strategy in play but, that strategy won’t have the offensive line looking anything like last year’s line.

Like many other K.C. fans, I’m amazed at the all-inclusive, real and meaningful, reconstruction that’s taken place since January. So many position groups have been approached, and then altered, in fundamentally different ways: adding two DBs to make that group solid and deep, adding two WRs (Bowe & Avery) to make that position group disparate and tenable, and adding two QBs to make the once weakest link, a strong and stable position.

So, when Andy Reid and John Dorsey say they have a plan… now… I believe them. However, when it comes to the offensive line, it may be the one spot where their final design is less evident than at any other position group on the team.

If you’re paying attention though, you have to believe they have a set of contingency plans for the offensive line too. And, if all of their other moves so far, are any indication of what they have in store for building a collection of big and powerful offensive linemen, then it should look dramatically different by late July when training camp commences.

In fact, by then, the offensive line could be considered… the “stars” of camp.

Consider the following scenarios.

If Branden Albert is traded, the Chiefs will end up with a 2nd round pick this year (and maybe more) as a result. No, a second round pick may not net a “star” offensive lineman but, the freed up cap space should allow the Chiefs to bring someone in who fits the Reid mold and helps make financial room for other players. Plus, that 2nd rounder could help the Chiefs nab a very good ILB.

6′-8″, 320lb, ex-New England Patriot OT, and free agent, Sebastian Vollmer has been mentioned in blog circles as a possible signing.  However, the Chiefs can’t really afford Vollmer right now unless they move Albert first.

If the Chiefs did, A) trade Albert, B) sign Vollmer and C) draft an OT high in the draft… Andy Reid would have three-fifths of the stars in place that would be personally hand picked for his scheme: Vollmer, LT draft pick and Schwartz.

Is this scenario even possible? Sure. Could it be part of the off season OL blueprint that Dorsey and Reid have set forth privately? No one knows for certain but, considering all they have been working towards so far, it’s seems like a good possibility.

How does Geno Smith factor into any of this?

Whether you believe Geno Smith is worthy of the number one pick in the draft  or not, he is the top QB prospect that multiple teams not only want but, need. So, the Geno Smith scenarios left for the Chiefs are;

A) bypass him and pick the OT of their choice or,

B) pick Geno Smith with the idea of trading him — likely a draft day trade or,

C) bypass him by trading down, gaining extra picks, and draft a top notch OT or,

D) draft, keep and develop Geno Smith.

Given the goals that Dorsey and Reid have set to make this team better, I have to admit that (option D) drafting, keeping and developing Geno Smith, appears to be the least likely avenue for improving the team in the short run. I say, “the short run” because I believe Geno Smith will one day be an excellent NFL QB, and if he’s not in a Chiefs uniform when that happens, no one will ever forget how passionate a high percentage of Chiefs fans were about having the Chiefs selecting him at #1 in the draft.

I’m not sure that Donald Stephenson or Jeff Allen or Rodney Hudson should feel safe or like they will be counted into the future plans (beyond this season) any more than Ricky Stanzi should be counted into the Chiefs future plans. We know very little about how they (Stephenson, Allen and Hudson) will develop and we can’t except Dorsey or Reid to know much more than that either.

If  Reid and Dorsey (R&D) can pull off the “Albert Trade + a 1st Round Trade Down” Doppelganger… I wouldn’t be surprised to see both Sebastian Vollmer and a top Guard like Chance Warmack or Tackle D.J. Fluker (who many think could be moved to Guard) in red and gold by the end of spring. However, that would require the Chiefs trading their first pick and reaping two high picks in this year’s draft.

Possible trade partners include: St. Louis and Minnesota have two first round picks each but, neither seems like a likely trade partner. Jacksonville has picks #2 and #33. Philly has #4 and #35. Arizona has #7 and #38. Desperate Buffalo sits at #8 and #41. The equally desperate N.Y. Jets sit at #9 and #39. Don’t forget the San Francisco 49ers have 200 picks in this draft and could move up to take any player they want.

If the Chiefs can make a first round trade happen, we could see 4 new stars lining up on the offensive line for the Chiefs next year.

While I have always thought Rodney Hudson had some of the quickest feet I’ve ever seen for an OL at the combine, he appears to be too small for Reid’s system. Some have suggested Jon Asamoah could move over to Center and his size may be just what Dr. Reid prescribes.

Then, we could see a possible K.C. Chiefs offensive line looking a little like this:

I’m not saying this is how it will all play out. However, it’s now clear that Andy Reid and John Dorsey are masterminding something entirely different for the offensive line and it doesn’t appear to have much to do with the players that were on the roster at the end of the 2012 season. Need proof? Just go ask Mr. Eric Smoked Winston and Sir Branden Prince Albert, who were previously thought to be the Chiefs two best offensive linemen but, who both have apparently taken their last hit from an Arrowhead peace pipe.

Of course, it could be Schwartz at RT and Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher at LT. After all Schwartz is listed at KCChiefs.com as a Tackle and these two tackle prospects are listed by most publications as the top values in this draft. In any event, the make-up of the 2013 Kansas City Chiefs offensive line will be markedly different — and it sounds like — better.

If things work out for the R&D railroaders… the stars may be aligning across the Chiefs offensive front this next season. And what has already been a memorable off season, just gets interesting-er and interesting-er.

What do you think Addicts? Is there anyone you’d like to see protecting Alex Smith or blowing holes wide open for Jamaal Charles next season?

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  • shayaan

    no clue what they’re doing at LT and RT, but I think Allen, Hudson, and Asamoah will be the starters inside.

    • ladner morse

      I know Reid sent Shaun Smith a workout routine and am wondering if the same was done for Jeff Allen. My take on him has been that he has potential to be excellent but needs more training — workouts and technique.

  • Nicholas Rodgers

    Man the ads are getting way too obtrusive on this site. Spent 30 seconds trying to “swipe to close” some stupid ad for an iPhone app. I love AA, but gotta do something about that. Know they pay the bills to keep the site up but damn.

    • micah stephenson

      I know man. Those pop ups get on my nerves.

    • Darkwolf1414

      Funny, I don’t get ads coming up at all. There are the ads along the periphery of the page but nothing that comes up blocking the screen.

    • Doug McD

      No pop up ads here. You probably just need to change your browser settings. And/or stop visiting those other web sites? lol

      • Da Menace

        I should have to take up space on my phone by putting on another app… So sick of ads if I wanna buy your shit I will on my own volition! No wonder goods cost so damn much..

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      What app are you using? The old AA app. (with the two big red As)? Or are you just visiting the site on your browser on your phone?

      If you have an iphone, you have to download the FanSided app. That old AA app is going to be phased out. We have been having problems with the ads on there. The FanSided app allows you to follow AA and get notifications whenever we post. Very user friendly.

      • KCMikeG

        I’m not getting any pop ups but I’m also not getting any post notifications?

        • Danny W

          Same here people who reply to my comment usually show on my email but I haven’t been getting any.

          • Jim Harper

            Now that you mention it I have not got those in a very long time.

          • KCMikeG

            So what’s up Paddy? Are we on probation or something? Did I exceed my word limit per day too many times??

    • Chief Hokie

      Swiper no swiping!

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.knowles.357 Andrew Knowles

    Awesome article. This is exactly the reason why I love arrowhead addict. I can’t wait for next season. Go chiefs!

    • ladner morse

      Thanks Andrew!

  • sidibeke

    What I like most about this is that R&D are not burning bridges. We have the players on the roster and the draft picks to have a solid o line and team. As other pieces move, more can happen. I worried a bit about over paying some of the FA signings due to cap space, but I generally like where we are going. Mostly, it’s nice to feel like the brass has a vision and is getting us there as quickly as they can; none of this add one piece per season and see what happens. And it is entertaining!

    BTW, I also grew up an LA Ram fan living in Anaheim, made the official transition after living in KC for a couple of years and the Rams moved to StL. Georgia F. drove me nuts (cheap, cheap, cheap).

    • berttheclock

      Remember two things about Georgia. First, she stupidly pushed Don Klosterman, the man who built the Chiefs’ SB teams, aside. Then, her GM had the rep of “I’ll bring them to their knees” in player negotiations.

    • ladner morse

      Love my OLD Rams. I was in KC when they moved to St. Louie and adored the greatest show on turf. Yep Georgia was never my favorite owner…. Thanks for mentioning them… such great memories… like going to see Roman Gabriel vs. Paul Horning’s Packers in the old LA Coliseum. wow absolutely love my fearsome foursome!

      • Jim Harper

        Right on Laddie I saw them play too!

      • sidibeke

        Jim and Jack Youngblood, Nolan Cromwell and Leroy Irvin…Those were my boys.

  • redchiefs

    We really like this article. Your new OL sounds pretty good. Pioli failed the Chiefs from the time he got here, the O line has been porous. Cassel never had much of a chance because usually he was running for his life. I like our new QBs far better, but Cassel’s buddy in the front office really failed him badly. Scotty never got the O line right, they had some good games, but just as many bad ones. It all starts up front.

    P.S. Johnson and Asamoah might be a little light in the britches for the R&D.

    • ladner morse

      Yes.. .we can all be sure Reid and Dorsey saw last years tape of Cassel running around like the Road Runner constantly trying to avoid inevitable death. That’s another reason I believe the whole offensive line will and must be overhauled completely. It’s hard for me to imagine the conversation Reid had with Alex Smith when he was attempting to convince him to come to KC… without the promise that he would re-build the offensive line.

      • redchiefs

        The O line has not been great since Vermeil left. You just can’t be a great team without very good people in the trenches. I am hoping that we finally get very good play along both O and D lines. IT ALL STARTS UP FRONT. There was a lot said about how both Casey W, and Ryan Lilja were small and struggled against the bigger DT from around the league. Everyone knows Reid likes big nasty linemen. I like Ladner’s O line, except I worry Johnson, and perhaps Asamoah are too small for Reid. T

    • Jim Harper

      The problem with Cassel was even when he was not running for his life or under pressure he still missed targets or threw interceptions.

  • Danny W

    LT: Eric Fisher LG Swartz C Hudson RG Asamoua RT Andre Smith

    • micah stephenson

      LT Albert LG Asamoah C hudson RG Allen/Swartz RT Stephenson. That line up is solid. I see you like Eric Fisher over Luke Joke-OL. I do too. Fisher gets more physical. Fisher plays with the mean attitude you need in the nfl. When he blocks he hits. When he pancakes he stays on them. Luke Joke-ol looks good but he soft.

      • cyberry

        At the same time..at Central Michigan Fisher hasn’t seen any/much NFL hopeful talent..Joekel played against several players we will be seeing on Sunday’s quite often..for three years.. I not saying Joekel will be a better player but I can see Fisher having some problems adjusting for a year or so.. But if the Chiefs plan on starting(competing with Stephenson) him a RT for a year. Then moving him in a year after Albert ..or whatever the plan is..

        There is something to think about..Albert doesn’t want to move positions, and I don’t blame him..But.. if Reid drafts a rookie and the player beats him out in training camp(it would probably be a while), there is nothing he can do about it.. It’s the nature of football and he knows it.. He not just going to give up his position to a rookie who hasn’t even taking a snap yet, but if can’t hold it and he’s under contract( if he signs)…he will be one of the highest paid RT or on the bench..then cut.

      • Danny W

        I’m in the Fisher camp. The bloke is mean.

    • ladner morse

      I think Asamoah and Stephenson have the greatest chance to end up playing first team this year.

      • cyberry

        Hudson was one of the most respected interior lineman coming out of the draft..I think he will be fine as long as he is healthy..He’s bulked up a bit..

      • Danny W

        I personally don’t think Don is ready for a starting gig yet.

    • NicholasAlanClayton

      We can’t afford Smith right now. We have like $3 mil in cap room.

      • Danny W

        I get that honestly we have to get rid of or trade Albert for a second round pick.

  • Scott Mahurin

    Nice spin. I’m not buyin in til they start winning. I find it really scary how they’ve deconstructed the offensive line, spent high value picks on a backup quarterback, and signed a crap load of second tier talent. If they happen upon the right chemistry and field a decent team I will be in their corner. Right now…I’m baffled. Shell shocked. Wondering how I’m going to spend my fall…when they completely fail.

    • Bill

      I was starting to think I was the only cynical KC fan left! I’ll be watching in the Fall no matter what, but I agree that wins are needed before I jump on the R&D bandwagon. Don’t get me wrong, I love that they brought back our good players (- Winston?) and I’m excited about all the new guys… but I see the majority as adding some much needed depth and competition, not as real
      difference makers. It perplexes me how so many have already declared their undoubted faith in R&D. In Pioli… oops, I meant In R&D we trust!

      • micah stephenson

        I agree with both of yall. I got to see it to believe it. I nervous. To me the only good free agent they got was Sean Smith yet everyone thinks they got an A+ for free agentcy. They paid too much for Alex Smith draft pick wise. Got rid of Winston. Mayby trading Albert. Might not draft GENO SMITH. Did not get a true center for insurance on Hudsons crushed leg. Signed a fast wr who will drop a lot of passes. Paid a back up TE Fasano starter money. Paid a punter more than min wage. Idk im still leary but its a wait and see.

    • Doug McD

      Scott, don’t let your pessimism from last year carry over to this year. And what are you calling second tier talent anyway? Give R&D a chance to put the correct personnel in for their system. Yes we need wins but you only get wins if you have the correct skill set at each position for the system you are running. Change is very hard and worse as we age but, just think of the definition for insanity. Expecting different results while doing the same thing. I’m just saying give them a chance to put their system and personnel in place. Otherwise we will certainly have the first pick next year also. I know you don’t want that, unless of course we trade for the pick. Which I feel we will absolutely do and get a kings ransom for.

      Ladner, excellent piece. Love your “R&D” reference, I like the symbolism (Research & Development).

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005102554690 Jason Taylor

        Second tier talent. Dunta Robinson.. You sign a career CB and most people think a move to safety. Because…he’s not a shutdown corner. He’s not. Second tier talent. Mike DeVito… Useless in the push rush. He’s the definition of one dimensional. Schwartz… A backup. Regardless of potential… He’s been hurt…just like Abert.. He was a rotational player for the Vikings. Alex Smith… Alex Smith’s only memorable seasons were with the 49′ers the last two season. Before that?…. He was inconsistent.. Which tells me, he plays his best football when in the system that they run in San Francisco. Anyone deny he was inconsistent and thought of poorly before the regime change in the Bay? Now, before ya lynch me… I like Alex Smith… I Iike Dunta Robinson..( at safety ).. However, lets not think that we just went out and signed a bunch of Pro-Bowlers… If they were…they stay where they were at. They are players that, on their best days, play Pro-Bowl style football…occasionally.

        • steve james

          I see your point but to say if they are pro bowlers they stay put is just not the way the Not For Long works. Ask the Broncos, and the Patriots, and the Ravens etc.

          • berttheclock

            John Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson as did Schneider of the Seahawks. Both of them could be considered to part of the Bill Belichick philosophy of telling players to “Rent, don’t buy”. Nothing is ever etched in stone with them. They have learned to never rest upon any perceived laurels. Change and more change to build the best.

          • ladner morse

            Yes, I think you make a really important point here that could be a whole article. While I’m saying that R&D have a plan… they may have a new plan next month… and another new plan the next month. This is because … as you say… nothing is ever etched in stone… so players who may get new big contracts who rest on their laurels may find themselves on the trade block four months later. When R&D say the want to create “competition” they are really saying they want the team atmosphere to ALWAYS stay competitive. By taking this approach the whole organization maintains a high level of productivity … in terms of wins .. and standing in the league.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005102554690 Jason Taylor

            With the exception of Robinson, these guys are young. You don’t release or let slip away serious talent in what could be their prime

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005102554690 Jason Taylor

            In all honesty… I’m 35 years old. I’ve been a chiefs fan as long as I’ve had a memory… I’m seriously skeptical at this point in my fandom and it probably won’t change for a whole

        • berttheclock

          I do not believe you will see Robinson at safety. But, you will see a great deal of nickles. Mike Nolan used such a system a great deal with the Falcons, last year. As for Alex Smith, you speak of him being thought of poorly before the regime change in the Bay. Then, explain why Andy Reid was trying to acquire him to play with Philly just as that regime change (Harbaugh being added by Baalke) occurred?

          • ladner morse

            Reid has said there will be a competition at CB and Robinson and Smith will be involved. Whoever ends up not winning that battle… and it’s hard for me to see Smith not winning it… will likely find time on the field in another way. So… I think many people are right to assume Robinson will find time at slot or safety.

        • elly violette

          Let the lynching begin… hehe… I don’t think morse is saying these players are going to be great… I just think he’s saying that R&D are making the moves Pioli never made and that’s how they are WINNING the off season. Of course it could always fall flat… that can happen to any team…. but like morse… I think a load of positives have happened in the past two months. Why you get so down?

          • Scott Mahurin

            R&D, who…are you? Moves Pioli never made? Like trading a second round pick (or two) for a backup quarterback? Like bringing in completely unproven backup quarterbacks? (Quinn vs Daniel) Like not drafting a quarterback…instead investing 1st round picks on linemen? LIke cutting talented players who didn’t conform? (Pollard vs Winston). What a short memory you have.

            I won’t be fooled again. Meet the new boss…same as the old boss. Show Me!

          • elly violette

            You make some good points. However, can you name a single Chiefs off season when so many specific position groups were addressed? GMs will always make their evaluations that fans disagree with. I’m not the biggest fan of the Alex Smit htrade… but I do see the thinking behind it. I’ts very difficult for me to equate Dorsey to Pioli but, if you think that no one can take that away from you. I don’t see it that way. Yes.. it’s always true that we will have to “wait and see” … but that is true of every move every GM on every team has ever made. So, bringing that up is like a moot point. Im persoanlly very happy with the turn of events.. but I also understand why you might not be.

          • Danny W

            Your skepticism is warranted I will grant you that. I don’t think Morse is promising winning or anything I just think the change from passive in free agency to aggressive has us all a little excited. I think it’s a nice change of pace to actually worry about cap room for once instead of being like a billion dollars under.

      • berttheclock

        The Ted Thompson trained Schneider, along with his HC Carroll, have used that R&D method over 300 times since they took control of the Seahawks. As I mentioned below, nothing has been etched in stone with them and I expect to see similar with the new R&D with the Chiefs.

        • ladner morse

          I’m still not sure Pete Carroll can take them to the promised land… but, I think so many of the Seahawks decisions have been stellar the past few years.

      • ladner morse

        Hey thanks.

        Oh yea.. that’s exactly what I was referring to with the R&D thingy.

        BTW… uh, what’s Research and Development anyway???

        • berttheclock

          Hmmm, that remark? was once made at 1600 Pennsylvania in the Oval Office, sometime in the eighties.

        • Doug McD

          It was kind of early when I wrote that (no coffee yet) and I probably read too much into it. Where I work we refer to R&D as “Research and Development”. I looked at it a little backwards “Scouting and Coaching”, kind of a play on words. I know, it’s out there a little!

          • ladner morse

            Doug, I was actually attempting to make an obscure reference to the Monopoly game’s Reading Railroad (or B&O Railroad)… showing that Reid and Dorsey are so far into their plan that they are “railroading” their choices for the Chiefs roster.

            The other references you allude to are purely coincidental but a big plus nonetheless.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

      You don’t have to buy in, but the prospect of having a drastically different approach from the Pioli, Haley, RAC era is a definite improvement considering the results. To be honest, I never liked Pioli form day 1, even given his resume. He was a E coast big shot that wreaked of ego wielding a quick draw smile of epic fakeness. He was not our style. This new regime is aggressive and making some bold moves already however and Dorsey has been very transparent when addressing the media. We have the first overall pick coming up in April (which i hope we trade or force a trade by picking Geno). What’s there not to be excited about?

      • elly violette

        I couldn’t agree more. I don’t understand why some fans are’nt excited.. at least excited about the changes. I’m not saying change is good for change sake only… but the way things were run for the past four years around here… you would think fans would be excited for ANY kind of change to take place.

        • ladner morse

          This is where I’m at. I think it’s one of the most exciting times in the history of the Chiefs franchise. It’s hard to recall a more exciting time.

      • Scott Mahurin

        Andy Reid went out and bought every FA he could…in Philly, LAST year. That didn’t work out so well…did it? They kinda pick just 3 spots behind us. (Two behind, every other round.) To build a successful team you keep the quality players already in place and use the draft. With the new CBA the team had to spend some money in FA…and they addressed areas of need. I just don’t like the idea of CREATING need by cutting/trading both OTs, then using draft picks to refill the holes you just created. FA is a patch. We are treading water. If we don’t get great picks for BA we really don’t have a draft. Round one is a replacement tackle and our next pick is the third round…and already on the fringe of getting star/impact quality players. This off season smacks of gambling addiction. They just pushed all their chips onto Red 11 at the roulette wheel.

    • ladner morse

      I’m interested in what you think would have been some moves that could have made… that would make you want to watch this fall?

      • Scott Mahurin

        First and foremost: QB. The Alex Smith trade. It was atrocious. I’d have offered a third (and only one) pick and waited for him to be cut. That loss of picks PLUS the monster contract was stupid. Geno Smith should be our pick at number one. He has the tools and Reid supposedly has the ability to develop him. He has all of Alex’s accuracy AND a deep ball. I would have signed a veteran FA QB like Jason Campbell to help mentor, if the 49ers decided to keep their $9M backup (not happening).

        Second, don’t cut Winston until you have Branden Albert signed. It created a rift between the Chiefs and BA. BA’s agent had to think the Chiefs need at tackle just multiplied and gave him leverage to make demands. Bad juju there. Why make needs where there aren’t any? BA is likely already signed long term if Winston isn’t cut. AND I would be willing to pay him $8M a year for 4-5 years. As for drafting his replacement, Joeckel isn’t a superstar. I just don’t get the hype. He is a technician pass blocker, smallish and a liability in run blocking.

        Last, and lumped together: Avery was probably unneeded and overpaid. Wylie is just as fast and doesn’t have the dropsies. Not sure Alex Smith can stretch a defense anyway. The rest of the acquisitions, although second tier talent, I really don’t take issue with. They patched needs and brought in competition I loved the CB moves. We were very generous with the contracts, but we also HAD to spend some cap. Re-signing Bowe, Colquitt, and restructuring T-Jax was brilliant.

        In conclusion, it’s been a roller coaster ride. I am officially NOT excited about the draft. A lineman in the first round and no #34. After we trade BA, we have completely shredded our offensive line and lost any continuity with them. In my mind we just tied our wagon to another noodle armed quarterback and when they extend his contract the Chiefs have officially DONE EXACTLY WHAT PIOLI DID WITH MATT CASSEL. Alex Smith is going to eat a lot of Arrowhead turf behind yet another dysfunctional O-line. If R&D fail in this wild experiment, the SOC banners will be flying over the stadium by the end of next year.

  • micah stephenson

    Why duz everyone just ignore Donald Stephenson? I think he showed enuff to get a yr a RT to see if he can b the long term anser.

    • ladner morse

      It’s not that I am ignoring him — it’s just that with the new coaches coming in — they can’t know how good he might be more than anyone else yet — because there’s just not enough tape on him. Same with Allen and Hudson. I hope Stephenson is a good one because he’s a KC kid — and he may even become the RT of the future…. but, my point is… we just can’t know yet.

      • Jim Harper

        Corrected the typos I see. Was not trying to pick on you. I found it amusing. We type with finger memory and sometimes our fingers misremember.

        • ladner morse

          Yes, I’m dyslexic but, thanks.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

          And why would you bring that up on a sports site? Don’t try to win a debate, argument or discussion, with that half-ass tactic. And really, you actually counted? What a moron.

        • berttheclock

          Micah has been trying to “learn him” some English in Micah’s spare time.

      • ArrowFan

        I remember reading how Reid watched all of last seasons tape before talking with Hunt about the job. If there is something in Stephenson that he likes then he knows it.

    • berttheclock

      The first time Alex Smith gets flattened because DS is not strong enough in his upper body to pass protect, he will be sent to the weight room for a very long time. He was drafted as a project and he remains a project. His best work, so far, has been in run blocking where he has shown some nastiness. But, trying to drop back and pass protect is another issue and Reid wants pass protection far ahead of run blocking skills.

    • cyberry

      Supposedly, Stephenson tweeted(I heard this on another Chiefs site)..”I’ve been informed I’m moving to RT..” or something to that effect. I can’t confirm it but they acted like it happened. At the same time..it might have been a joke from another player..and meant to be sarcastic.. So..just passing on more “here say” to ya..

    • Danny W

      Don Steve isn’t ready.

  • Chief

    Nice Read. Although I believe this is a very presumptuous of you to think they would cut people and put people on the trade block for the hopes that they trade and the hope that a certain player falls for them. I bet the scenario in actuality is much more simple than the one proposed.

    • ladner morse

      Its all speculation of course. However, you can bet dollars to donuts that Reid and Dorsey do have a plan for the OL… and it’s likely all a “contingency plan”… if this happens -then we do this… or if this other thing happens – then we do this… or if that other thing happens – then we do this….

      So, this post was based on what we know about Dorsey and Reid .. .and what we can speculate from that.

  • kmon

    You say Reid wants a big powerful line, well Albert is 6’5 318lbs and he’s powerful. joeckle is 6’6 306lbs but he’s not that strong and might I add that shariff Floyd dominated him in the Florida vs tex a&m game. I think drafting fisher would work better for us if we absolutely need to get rid of albert. coming in at 6’7 310lbs and who is powerful, and versatile

    • ladner morse

      Good point but I think moving Albert has much more to do with money.

      • berttheclock

        One point about Albert concerns his being drafted in ’08. That draft is being compared to the one upcoming. The Chiefs gained his pick, along with that of Charles and DaJuan Morgan by trading Allen. However, within that first round, the Chiefs moved up from 17 to 15 with a deal with Detroit, where the Lions selected a RT and KC took a LT. But, also, look back the moves made by Balitmore, along with Jacksonville and Houston to see how Baltimore acquied Flacco, Houston picked up Duane Brown and the Jags took a defensive lineman. This year, there may be even more moves by teams within that round.

        • kmon

          we never know what their going to do I just hope its worth it

          • ladner morse

            Actually, bert has a great point to make. Yes, kmon, we don’t know what trades will be made but, you can bet they will be made. In the 2012 NFL … exactly half the draft picks (16) in the first round — WERE TRADES! We may not know “who” will be traded but, we can say with confidence that there “will” be trades. berts’ point, I think, is that there were teams that made draft day trades who had a lot of success with their trades.

            So… let the games begin!

      • kmon

        Agreed

        • elly violette

          I don’t understand why they aren’t doing everything possible to sign Albert to a long term but thrifty deal right away… this would also open up cap space for signign others. Why does everyone so openly accept the Chiefs allowing our BEST OL to be traded away???

  • berttheclock

    Good points all. A couple of other needs to be addressed are 1) adding more speed to the wide outs and 2)finding more TEs. When Dorsey was with the Packers, they kept 5 TEs, largely, because of the worry Finley would leave. With the loss of Maneri and the injury past of Moeaki, more TEs are really needed.

    • ladner morse

      I agree completely but was just trying to point out the general focus lately has had largely to do with the offensive line.

      Yep… I’m unsure Moeaki can be counted on to be healthy and one injury to either tight end and were right back to square one at TE. Good points all around cuz they really do need a stable full of good TEs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.small.12 Matthew Small

    Well, it won’t happen like this, Vollmer just resined with the Patriots…

    • ladner morse

      I hate it when that happens…..

      • Jim Harper

        No worry Laddie. Barry Richardson is still out there. (choke) Andre Smith is still available from Cincy though.

        • ladner morse

          OMG a BRich citing??? Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!

          • elly violette

            Hey Morse… I thought you never wanted to mention BRich around here, ever again??? :)

          • ladner morse

            Yes… and I’m soooo amazingly surprised to find that Jeff Fisher would think BRich could be an effective OT in any decade much less this one.

  • SuperGnat

    Don’t count your chickens before they hatch

    • Jim Harper

      Heavy

      • berttheclock

        and terse. Might even border on pithy.

      • elly violette

        ” Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth’s gravitational pull?”

        • ladner morse

          Back to the Future … right???

      • Danny W

        lol

    • Danny W

      I would have went with don’t count your eggs before there in the pudding but this works too.

  • KCMikeG

    LT Fisher or Johnson (1st pick traded down with Bills), LG Schwartz, C Quessenberry (3-4 round) or Hudson, RG Asamoah & RT FA Andre Smith or if we want to take a risk to save some $$ for another FA need then Stephenson. Starting a rookie and a 1st year guy at our OT’s is a little scary to me and makes Smith worth the big contract.

    Vollmer resigned with the Pats. Johnson has the most upside at LT while Fisher has more versatility. Quessenberry is going to be a star where ever and at what ever position he plays. Hudson is the wild card with missing so much last year and making the position change from G to C. Stephenson needs another year to develop but I still have hope for him. Unless he shows us in camp he should be a starter. I have serious concerns about Allen making it as bad as he looked last year.

    • ladner morse

      I wonder if R&D will be moving to meet with Andre Smith soon now that Vollmer is back in NE?

      I like C Travis Frederick from Wisconsin. A 6-4, 312 bearded mountain man.

      • KCMikeG

        Having him at RT would make me more comfortable than a rookie and Stephenson at our OT’s. Nice post Ladner. I really hope we get Quessenberry.

        • ladner morse

          I’ve looked up Quessenberry. I wasn’t familiar with him. He looked like he might be a very good athlete. What do you know of him Michael?

          • KCMikeG

            He is one of the guys that came out of no where at the Senior Bowl and was very impressive just like Fisher. Neither of them were even on the radar before that and while Fisher is now a top 10 pick Quessenberry seems to have retained some of his anonymity landing in the 3rd – 4th round range. Can and has played every position on the line. Huge value pick that late compared to the talent that will be going in the top 10.

      • berttheclock

        I really doubt it as Andre Smith is a far better run blocker than a pass blocker. Just behind Winston in that type of RT. Reid wants to pass far more than run.

    • Danny W

      Andre Smith is a monster. I hope we get him. I think he’s wanting a nice chunk of bread though.

      • ladner morse

        Yep… but I’m hoping he wants less than Albert is being paid.

        • Danny W

          Oh me too. I’d like to have a guy named Andre Smith on the team. Not just for the fact that he’s probably the best right tackle available right now but because his name is Andre. Would you agree that Don Steve isn’t ready?

          • elly violette

            I want him on the team because we really need a few more Smiths. We could Change the name to Kansas City Smiths if we come up with enough of them! :) Plus… then maybe Reid and Dorsey will feel obligated to draft Geno… for that reason alone.

          • KCMikeG

            And we resigned a Jones for them all to keep up with…..

          • Danny W

            Better than the Kansas City Shits, or Kansas City Cheaps which is what they’ve been called last few years.

      • KCMikeG

        I think the lack of market interest will drive his price down and it wouldn’t be hard to get him for much more than the bungles offer him since he is unhappy they won’t pay him what he wants. Perfect opportunity to play on that and get him in here with an attitude wanting to show them how they “bungled” their chance.

        • Danny W

          Oh it’s the bungles, if they don’t bungle him to us they will to someone else.

  • Bill

    The offensive line problem isn’t at tackle, it’s right up the middle with the guards and center that need addressed the most. They get manhandled

    • ladner morse

      Yes, and I think Reid would like the option of moving Albert inside but, being the people person he is… and Dorsey being the cap strategist he is… see the advantage in letting Albert go — to not make him unhappy and also to recoup the dollars it will take to sign him long term or even short term.

      Absent the opportunity to move Albert inside at will… the Chiefs are stuck addressing the tackles fisrt… because the DO come first in terms of need… but, I think we can all be sure that the inside of the Chiefs OL will be addressed… if not this off season then next.

      • elly violette

        That’s a lot of change for one off season. I think it probably will take a couple of off seasons to completely over haul the offensive line… but I think Allen and Stephenson will be very good… even in Reid’s system.

  • Adrian Morales

    Eric Fisher is who we need to draft… Or like mentioned grab geno trade em to the cards get their 1 and 2

    • elly violette

      I like Eric Fisher too. If it comes down to Fisher or Joeckel… I’ll take Fisher.

      • Danny W

        Me three

        • elly violette

          Me Four

          • ladner morse

            Then it’s decided!

            I’ll let Reid and Dorsey know what we decided. Fisher it is!

          • Jim Harper

            This shit is easy

  • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

    Volmer resigned with the Pats.

    • ladner morse

      I knew that would happen when I posted early this morning. Before I posted … I checked… but, that was the one aspect of this piece I was wondering about before posting. Oh well… it’s all about the idea that R&D have a plan….

    • Danny W

      Noooooooo!

  • jimfromkcj

    Here is how I would like to see the Chiefs line up on the offensive line. First without an Albert trade: Lt Joeckel,LG Albert, Center Asamoah, RG Schwartz and Faulk at RT. With an Albert trade it would be LT Joeckel, LG Hudson, Center Jones, RG Schwartz and RT Faulk. Joeckel weighs in at 306, Hudson 299, Albert 316, Jones 306, Schwartz 340 and Faulk at 331. Not quite as much bulk as your 5 guys, but still a doable group. Also I think it is a more athletic and technically sound group.

  • ladner morse

    2013 – Branden Albert – Chris Faulk – Jon Asamoah – Geoff Schwartz – Luke Joeckel

    2014 – Luke Joeckel – Chris Faulk – Jon Asamoah – Geoff Schwartz – Taylor Lewan

  • ArrowFan

    How many yards and TD would JC of had with the same line PH was running behind? Would he have broken both records in the same year? I say yes 2500 yards and 35 TD’s:)