Looking at the Chiefs in Free Agency So Far

Dec. 23, 2012; Miami, FL, USA; Buffalo Bills wide receiver Steve Johnson (13) makes a catch as Miami Dolphins cornerback Sean Smith (24) defends the play during the first half at Sun Life Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY Sports

The Chiefs have made quite the splash in free agency this offseason, something fans around these parts aren’t used to. And while this activity certainly does not guarantee success – just ask Andy Reid and the Eagles “Dream Team” or Scott Pioli and Chiefs fans everywhere after the last offseason when we got Eric Winston and Peyton Hillis and everyone still naively thought Pioli knew what he was doing – it is nice to see some activity in an attempt to improve the team.

Most of this activity is expected: after all, most new regimes want their own guy at quarterback so we all knew a move was either going to come in free agency or the draft. And then there’s always the expected move of new coaches bringing in free agents from their previous teams: just like Mike DeVito following Bob Sutton from New York. But some of these additions, such as Dunta Robinson, Geoff Schartz and Sean Smith, I would consider luxury additions.

(I’m going to interject here in regards to a signing that might go overshadowed but still important. By the Chiefs getting Anthony Fasano from Miami, they are greatly improving their red zone offense. Let me explain: while Tony Moeaki appears to be the better receiving tight end and perhaps a better target in the middle of the field, Fasano has proved time and again his red zone scoring capabilities. In fact, since 2009, Fasano has accounted for 17 touchdowns. In that same time, KC tight ends have combined for 11. And that time span doesn’t even include the 7 TDs he had in 2008. Plus he’s a decent blocker. All those things combined and you got yourself a good tight end).

What I mean by that terminology is that the Chiefs really didn’t NEED them, but they make the team better in the now, and are the kinds of additions that a team expecting to win makes. After all, the Chiefs already had Javier Arenas and Jalil Brown to play corner and nickel. The Chiefs already had 2012 2nd round pick, Jeff Allen, at guard, assuming that’s where Schwartz ends up playing (as Pro Football Focus stated on twitter on Friday, Schwartz could make a good right tackle but can make a GREAT right guard). The Chiefs could have stood pat, hoped these players developed, and rolled the dice on their success. Instead, the new regime, with no preconceived loyalties to players from the old regime, went out and got players they believed as upgrades and that would help the team win now.

This should be encouraging as a Chiefs fan, because most teams coming off a two-win season would be looking to rebuild through the draft, not reload during free agency. This is even more of a surprise if you know John Dorsey’s history in Green Bay, where in 2010 the Packers had the third highest percentage of draft picks making up their roster with 71.7%. In fact, when the Packers won the Super Bowl that year, they had just two players on the roster that had been signed as unrestricted free agents, and both (cornerback Charles Woodson and defensive tackle Ryan Pickett) had been acquired in 2006.

For Dorsey to go out and get all these guys, you have to believe he either thinks the roster was in need of a jump start or the team is close to competing for a playoff spot now. Either way, Dorsey is making it known that he is his own man and isn’t afraid to break the Packer mold. This, of course, is something that Scott Pioli had trouble doing and ultimately served as his downfall and reason for scorn from much of the Chiefs fan base.

So, after addressing the cornerback, tight end, quarterback, defensive end, guard, wide receiver and whatever position Robinson is actually going to play, what’s left?

Once again, assuming Schwartz doesn’t play right tackle, I believe that is a position of need. Once the Chiefs released Eric Winston based on “philosophical differences”, who was a top right tackle in the NFL by the way, that opened the conversation up for who was going to replace him. Could the Chiefs roll with 2012 3rd round pick Donald Stephenson in that role? Sure; but I have to believe that this position will be addressed in either the next few weeks of free agency or through the draft in April. But don’t assume that Winston’s release guarantees the Chiefs selecting Luke Joeckel with the first overall pick. Joeckel played left tackle all throughout college and Branden Albert has played only left tackle while in the NFL. And if you think switching from the left to the right side is easy, it’s not. Can Joeckel do it? Probably; but would the Chiefs spend a #1 pick on a potential right tackle? I guess we’ll find out.

The other position that the Chiefs might want to address before the draft is inside linebacker. With Jovan Belcher’s death and Brandon Siler’s release, the Chiefs are in a position of need there. While linebackers are going quickly on the market, there are still a few that are available, and with the spending spree that the Chiefs are going on (which I’ve stated on Twitter before I have no problem with. After all, it’s not my money, what do I care?), ILB seems like as good of a position as any to throw some money at.

Any other positions the Chiefs should look at before the draft? Just want to talk about how awesome Chase Daniel is? Hit me up in the comments section.

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  • Erik Hild

    What free agent ILB are left. Also do you know what our cap space looks like?

  • Michael Shaw

    First of all I don’t think we have the cap space for our draft picks to be picking up a ILB in free agency. I wish we did, but with what they have been spending i doubt that they do. As for Geoff Schwartz, I contend that they actually picked him up to play LG or RG. I would say LG since Asamoah is doing such a fine job at RG, but who knows. As for the draft, I think with Detroit’s LT and RT situation, they may be the best trade partners for us right now. They desperately need a LT worse than any other team out there right now.

    • Canad-Ian

      It seems like Joeckel and Fisher are 1a and 1b at tackle prospects. I don’t think Lions will trade up to 1 if there’s still a chance they can get one of those two by staying where they are.

  • micah stephenson

    Rumor is that the Chiefs are looking at LB Carlos Dansby. I wish they would sign a starting OT so we can eliminate that Luke Joke-OL talk and keep the draft GENO SMITH talk going. :)

    • TAZMOSIS

      Dude, with all due respect, you are the only one still beating the Geno Smith drum. If, in fact, the Chiefs do not trade out of the first pick, which I believe is an absolute certainty, and they take Smith at #1, it will be the same as when the Chargers drafted Eli Manning #1. They then traded him to the Giants. The Chiefs will dangle Smith as trade bait, and let four or five teams start a bidding war. And the best thing about that is that the teams only have minutes to act. Should be fun.

      • Jim Harper

        Amen to that!

      • Spencer

        I still want Geno….but idc if we get him or a Tackle….i would rather trade down and get Johnson from Oklahoma then Joekel…to be honest, and a good way to do that is trade down and get more picks, but we could get Geno and then immediatly trade him (saying oh you wanted Geno???well guess what….now you don’t have him….we can succesfully screw over sooo many teams in need of a QB with that pick and force a bidding war to teams who are going to be just like the chiefs last year….teams without a QB…

        It makes sense to take Geno for a few reasons…1 we prevent what will be the best QBA going anywhere but to us…2 we draft him just to sit and learn….making us EXTREMELY DEEP at the QB position, not a bad idea, but may cause controversy, especially for Alex Smith who might not like this idea to come around AGAIN…Bidding wars, there are multiple teams in need of a QB….and a lot have VERY FEW options of quality BACKUP qbs to start for them, there are a lot of teams in need of a good QB, and very few have the option of getting one

        We literally screw over so many teams by drafting Geno it would be hilarious,I like drafting Geno just to do that, we hurt the competition, 2 trade bait anybody??? wanna over pay for Geno by giving us a couple 1sts hmm hmm??? I don’t mind that idea, just drafting Geno to be our QB in 1 or 2 yrs isn’t a bad idea either….I don’t see what can go wrong with drafting Geno to be honest

        Now what guy would i want to draft 1st overall??? Ezekial Ansah….Wouldn’t mind a tackle…but if we get one we should get value out of the 1st overall pick and Geno, there are a couple good LTs that neither has really outright played themselves as the best Tackle in this draft (Joekel I find as the worst of the 3 to be honest), I think the only reason people keep on mentioning him is because he was considered the best tackle after college, since then the gap of which was already fairly small has closed up VERY quickly….

        Damn has Dorsey and Reid put us in an area of which allows us to do ANYTHING in the 1st round, I love these FA moves simply because of that

      • Brody Hall

        Umm… Eli was traded because eli told SD he didn’t want to play with their sorry assess lol. Geno would not have that attitude.

        • TAZMOSIS

          Remember that the Chargers already had Rivers. Eli was drafted specifically to be traded to the Giants. It was all worked out before hand.

          • truth

            Wrong. they drafted Eli. he told them he didn’t wanna play for em. then the giants drafted rivers and traded all those picks and rivers for eli

          • KCMikeG

            That’s the truth – Truth.

        • micah stephenson

          Eli was a bitch ass mutha fucka for that move. You play for wateva team drafts you.

      • Joe Myers

        Geno smith Geno smith .

      • Danny W

        I’m still beating the drum it’s just not as loud as Micah.

      • micah stephenson
      • micah stephenson

        Ima keep on beatin it too!

        • Troy Utt

          Well you keep beatin’ your… whatever… and the rest of us will get on with reality! As much as I also wish we had a rookie QB to groom, I agree with the moves the new brass have made. No… they would not be the few, as according to the poll taken the majority of Chiefs fans were in favor of Alex Smith -vs- the option of Geno, when given then choice! ( see ESPN AFC WEST) Move on already… dump the negativity!

          • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

            Dorsey will draft the BPA. That is the most coveted player with the most value. Right now, Geno looks to possibly be it. This draft is developing nicely for us! We all should rooting for Geno mania.

      • calciomoti

        Geno Smith!

      • micah stephenson

        GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH!

        • KCMikeG

          GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH! GENO SMITH!
          I could go on but I think I have made my point.

      • Chief Hokie

        I be beatin that drum like it owes me money

    • Michael Shaw

      I wouldn’t mind us getting Karlos Dansby, but I think he is more of a OLB if I am not mistaken. As for Geno, never mind, not wasting my time. You don’t get it.

      • truth

        Nope dansby is an inside 34 linebacker

        • Michael Shaw

          For some reason I thought he was a OLB. Thanks!

          • Canad-Ian

            The signing of Ellerby from Ravens opened the door for his exit. I loved him in Arizona but haven’t watched many Dolphins games to get a valid opinion of what he has left.

    • Brody Hall

      Where is this article?

      • micah stephenson

        Its a lot of he say she say but my buddy in florida said that on the sports talk radio tha the Chiefs are intrested n Dansby

    • jesse

      i wouldnt hate it if they took Geno Smith to learn.behind Alex Smith but id prefer they trade back.with someone who wants him like the cards (to keep him from the raiders) that way we have more picks to build with at more pressing needs like ILB, OL and DL. like perhaps they get cards 1st this year and 2nd and then 1st next year, then we coukd still grab a top offensive lineman, maybe one of those stub ILBs in the 2nd, DL and DB in the 3rd, perhaps a QB or TE in the 4th, WR in the 5th, HB in the 6th, and OL or DL in the 7th. then.next year we would have 2 picks in the first as ammuntion to get more picks or to even trade up for a quarterback.if someone separates himself from the pack next year, say Aj Mcarron?

    • http://www.facebook.com/genemyuk Gene Yuknis

      didn’t we have this discussion before? get over the the geno thing. life goes on. are you related to him?

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Dansby? Really? I hadn’t heard anything about that. Interesting.

      • micah stephenson

        I was talking to my boy in florida. Asking how good is S.Smith and Fasano and said “they just said on the radio Chiefs are intrested in Dansby”. This next wave of free agent aint getn alot of money. They will b happy just to get a job.

  • Brady Warshawsky

    Watch us throw everyone off & draft “Crazy Eyed” Manti T’eo.

    • ArrowFan

      may be at the top of the 3rd round

      • Jim Harper

        Not likely

      • Michael Shaw

        He won’t make it out of the 1st round I would bet!!! If he does he won’t last past the 2nd. Too talented of a linebacker no matter what the “off field issues” are. And it isn’t like the kid is out there using drugs, playing with guns or driving drunk or doing any other stupid shit. He got fooled by a…………………………..mentally unstable individual. It happens when you are a good guy and too naive at the same time.

        • TAZMOSIS

          Dude was 14 miles past naive. I would define T’eo as delusional. He is the one that is mentally unstable. And as far as some player getting busted for drugs, DUI etc. Hell, that’s just not news anymore. Not saying it isn’t important, But one day in the news and it is forgotten. Te’o will carrying this crap for half a season.

    • Michael Shaw

      Actually I wouldn’t mind that. I think the kid is a stud on the field. He had a bad game against Alabama, but let’s be honest here EVERYONE more or less had bad games against Alabama. That is why they were the NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!!!! I don’t care about the guy’s immaturity because it never came out on the field in my opinion at Notre Dame. Many of you are going to say that Ogletree or Jarvis Jones are better than T’eo, but keep in mind they are stud OUTSIDE linebackers in a 3-4 defense. We already have two great ones on the outside, so we need an inside linebacker that can stop the run and still cover a Tight End or two. I believe Manti can do both!!!!

      • Jarad

        Alec Ogletree is widely considered the best ILB in the draft. However, his speed and athleticism could warrant an OLB spot as well

        • Danny W

          I think Kevin Minter is going to go before any of them do. Check his stats out they’re video game esq.

        • KCMikeG

          Agreed. He could play either and different mock draft ranking services have varied in his position. He is a high risk pick with huge upside.

      • TAZMOSIS

        Alabama wasn’t T’eo’s only bad game. Pittsburgh and SC ran through the guy. Pull up the video on You Tube. He was getting thrashed in the running game. Once a team figures out the blocking schemes on him, he
        is just another player. Not to say he didn’t make plays. Just not enough to go in the top two rounds.

        • KCMikeG

          As good as ‘Bama was it was just as much him looking lost and indecisive. He is NOT what we need at SILB. We need a bigger, stronger thumper LB like FA Carlos Dansby. I would take Minter over T’eo any day. Good SILB’s are available in rounds 3-5 like Alanso, Bostic, Johnson & Klein.

          • TAZMOSIS

            I agree that there are several ILBs that I would take over T’eo. Whatever team gets him is in for major headaches. Can you imagine the reporters and all the questions? This crap would take over your locker room. No thanks!

    • Jim Harper

      I could live with that too, but the guy I really want is Ziggy Ansah. This kid is going to make a living in opposing teams backfields. More upside than any other player in the draft.

  • freshmeat62

    Even though it’s not your money getting spent, the thing is there is only so much allowed to be spent on the whole team, and you don’t want it to be wasted on someone that isn’t going to help your team.

    On paper it looks like the Chiefs have improved the team a lot. Now it’s up to the coaches to take this collection of names, and build a cohesive unit.

    • Michael Shaw

      well said!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ArrowFan

    There are several ILB in the draft But without our 2nd pick I’m not sure if we will get one of the top guys.

    • Danny W

      Linebackers recently have had a history of falling out of the bottom of the draft. That said the really good ones usually don’t make it out of round three.

  • Jarad

    Not sure why there are still so many that dont want the Chiefs to take an OT with their top pick. Of course id love for them to trade down a little and get one, but i think upgrading the line as much as possible is a smart move, regardless if its at #1, #4 or #7. Many of the people against drafting an OT were probably saying Alex Smith performed well because of the roster the 49ers had. Looking at that roster, they thrived on their OL dominating games.The 49ers did that in part by drafting 2 Olineman in the 1st round in a single year! Lets get that dominant Oline and let Charles average 6.5 ypc in the 4th quarter!! GO CHIEFS!

    • Michael Shaw

      GREAT idea. As much as I wanted Dee Milliner I am done beating that drum since we signed Smith. I say get the best offensive lineman in the draft, but they won’t. They will take Joeckel instead. Chance Warmack is the best offensive lineman in this draft, but since he is a Guard, he is not valued as a #1 overall pick. I am wondering now if the guy’s name was Will Shields how Chiefs fans would feel about picking him up #1 overall. He might be that damn good!!!

    • Danny W

      This regime is suffering from previous organizations with under achieving poor offensive lines. They won’t make the same mistake in KC. I think they’re going to trade down and get who they want.

  • Chief

    The Packers philosophy is to take the BPA. We can do that plugging the holes up in the roster.

    • micah stephenson

      What if every rd the best player available is an OT? Do they keep drafting OTs? What if for the next 4 or 5 yrs the BPA in the 1st rd wen its our turn is an OT?

      • Michael Shaw

        Micah, now you are just being ridiculous!!

        • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

          He is not being ridiculous. It’s a valid point. BPA should be tempered by need.

      • dominicscarlatti

        The statistical probability of that is nil.

      • Canad-Ian

        BPA within reason. Nobody is going to be so stubborn and pig headed to ignore glaring holes.

  • Brody Hall

    Jarvis Jones?

    • Danny W

      I guess we could trade Tamba for a some picks and pick this kid up?

    • micah stephenson

      You do know J.Jones has a spinal cord condition. Teams are scared that the wrong hit and he will b paralized

  • Danny W

    Brian Urlacher is going to come free maybe they pick him up.

    • TAZMOSIS

      Way too old.

    • Canad-Ian

      Way too slow.

  • Norman Gunn

    We are trading out and taking Manti Teo early 20′s 1st round. Let it be known that I called it.

    • TAZMOSIS

      No chance that Dorsey and Reid make that move. Are serious? Forget that even if T’eo is a good ILB, which I believe he is not, the Chiefs are not going to screw up their draft with this headcase.

  • redchiefs

    Don’t shoot the Shariff, let’s all Think Floyd as #1

  • redchiefs

    Shariff Floyd

  • redchiefs

    We need someone to scare Manning out of the pocket to Justin Houston or Tamba Hali, OR we need someone who can give Mr Manning a nice bear hug, SHARIFF FLOYD I say, or Star Lotoulei

    • chiefs727

      shariff floyd!!

    • Canad-Ian

      Floyd could move inside on passing downs and himself or Poe will likely be left with one on one assignments. If we can push the pocket from the inside we can likely hit Manning in his giant forehead before he has a chance to make a play.

      There are so many different ways the Chiefs can go with the first pick and I won’t be outraged by any of them. No matter who they pick I’ll just let it play out.

      • redchiefs

        I totally agree with you. The quantity and quality of the offseason signings leaves The Chiefs truly in the position to choose the best player, no matter the position. There will be competition throughout the entire roster this training camp. I am truly enjoying the ride this year. GO CHIEFS!

      • KCMikeG

        Giant forehead! Bahahahaha! I think he is an alien on earth undercover and is the spawn of Beldar and Prymaat. That would help to explain the incredible recovery wouldn’t it?

        • Canad-Ian

          The Donkeys could aim their projector at it to watch game film.

          • KCMikeG

            Awesome idea! It could start the rebirth of the drive-in theater!

  • http://www.facebook.com/montejoewilson Monte Wilson

    Siler got released?

    • Merlin_Arrowhead_Addict

      Siler is a free agent.

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