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KC Chiefs Must Take Geno Smith If They Can’t Find A Trade Partner


Suddenly, Geno Smith is a top ten pick.

At least that is what the buzz seems to be indicating,in wake of Smith’s Pro Day.

As expected, Smith was accurate at his Pro Day, completing 60 of 64 passes, with two drops by receivers. The throws were scripted and any QB worth playing in the NFL should complete most of his passes in a scripted throwing session. No, it wasn’t the numbers that were impressive, it was Smith’s touch and mechanics that impressed the scouts in attendance.

NFL Network’s draft analyst, Mike Mayock, declared Smith a “top ten talent” following the Pro Day. Mayock said he liked that Smith was “ripping” the ball and that it appeared as though the West Virginia QB had cleaned up his footwork.

QB-need NFL teams are taking notice.

The Philadelphia Eagles, who hold the fourth pick in the NFL Draft, have already worked Smith out. There have been various other reports that claim the Jacksonville Jaguars (second pick) Oakland Raiders (third pick) and New York Jets (tenth pick) are all interested in drafting Smith.

There is no telling if the interest these teams are showing is real. It may just be that each team is trying to convince the teams behind them that may want Smith that they might take him as to help facilitate a potential trade. No team likes to show its cards before it actually make its pick so we have to take everything we hear this time of year with a grain of salt.

The Chiefs would seem to be totally out of the Geno Smith sweepstakes. After all, KC traded a couple of high draft picks for Alex Smith and just a couple of days ago, Andy Reid declared Smith the starting QB of the Kansas City Chiefs. The organization has not been shy about admitting that it sees A. Smith as the future at the position. There has even been talk that the Chiefs might approach Smith’s agent about extending the QBs contract.

Given the facts, it seems like you’d have a better chance of hitting the Power Ball than of the Chiefs selecting Geno Smith with the No. 1 pick in the draft.

Trading up in the NFL Draft can be a strange dance. Take last year when the Cleveland Browns moved up from No. 4 to No. 3 to select Alabama running back Trent Richardson. Everyone knew the Colts were taking Andre Luck and that the football team from Washington is was taking RG3. That means that the Minnesota Vikings, who held the third pick, essentially had the first pick.

When the Browns moved up, some folks were questioning why they did it. After all, the Vikings had Adrian Peterson and despite the fact that he was coming off a serious knee injury, nobody really believed the Vikings would take Richardson.

But it likely wasn’t the Vikings the Browns were worried about. Minnesota probably convinced the Browns that one of the teams behind Cleveland was making an offer to move up for Richardson. There was no way for the Browns to know if that was true or not and rather than miss the chance to get their guy, Cleveland, who had some extra picks anyway as a result of the Julio Jones trade, made the deal.

If the Chiefs truly want to trade back, they must convince teams that there is a market for Geno Smith at No. 1. The fact that the Jaguars are showing some interest in Smith certainly helps KC’s cause.

The problem for the Chiefs is that trading up for the No. 1 pick can be expensive. The Jaguars might be able to swap picks with KC for just an extra third-round pick, because the Chiefs would only have to move back one slot. For those picking farther back, however, the price would be much more expensive, so much so that teams might be willing to roll the dice to see if Geno Smith would fall to them, or at least to a slot that would be less expensive to move up to.

One move the Chiefs have to consider if they can’t find a trade partner, is taking Smith at No. 1 and then offer him up to the highest bidder.

By taking Smith off the board, the Chiefs will force the hands of teams desperate for a QB. It would be a shrewd and somewhat risky move. There would be no guarantee the Chiefs would be able to trade Smith to one of the other teams in the top ten.

But I think the risk would be minimal. At least one QB has been taken in the top ten of the draft every single year since 2001. In fact, since 1990, there have been only four drafts (2000, 1997, 1996 & 1991) where no QBs were taken in the top ten.

Geno Smith will be taken somewhere in the top ten picks of this draft. Based off his physical tools alone, his speed and athleticism, arm strength and accuracy, some team is going to take a chance on him.

The Jacksonville Jaguars, Oakland Raiders, Arizona Cardinals, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets all have major questions at the QB position. If you don’t think one of those teams is going to draft Smith if given the chance, well, I’ve got some snake oil and swamp land to sell you at a great price.

The Chiefs have done such a good job of filling their needs in free agency that they can take any payer at any position. The talent at the top of the draft is so even that KC could move virtually anywhere in the top ten and probably get just a quality a player as they could at No. 1.

If the rest of the NFL won’t play ball with the Chiefs on a trade, then Kansas City needs to select Geno Smith.

Whether they want him or not.

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  • Da Menace

    Hey I’m still all for him. If he has to sit a couple years so be it. I do think Alex is more than capable of taking us to the big dance, however I dot really think he is our future. It would be fun to watch Von Miller try to catch him while he rolls out and throws a thirty yard TD (Geno to Bowe).

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      I’d rather take him and let him sit behind Smith to learn but if they really don’t want him, I think they can get a heck of a lot more value by drafting him and flipping him instead of just taking Joeckel or someone.

      • TAZMOSIS

        Patrick,
        Great read. I have thought for weeks that some team in the top ten is going to have to have Geno. After his pro day, the Chiefs are in the catbird seat. Like the old oil filter commercial said, “pay me now, or pay me later”. LET THE BIDDING BEGIN!!!!.

        • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

          There are ZERO QBs out there. All those teams need one. Somebody is going to bite.

        • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

          Yep. I agree. We shouldn’t just pass on him and take a tackle when we can leverage him for more picks.

      • Bosco Cletus

        That may depend on wether the new guns in town want the number one pick to play and produce, or learn for down the road. Just something to consider.

      • micah stephenson

        Whoa! Slow down now! That Drafting Geno instead of JOKE-OL talk gets you killed on this website! Lol

        • chiefridgy

          They’re drinking some of ur koolaid

          • njjohn

            It’s “Flavor-Aid”. Jim Jones did not use Kool-Aid, he used “Flavor-Aid”. At least use the right drink for mass suicide.

          • chiefridgy

            Lstm

          • micah stephenson

            Kool Aid/Flavor Aid! Its the same thing you just pay more for the Kool Aid

          • Derek

            lol

        • Chris Tarrants

          It looks like some of the guys are starting to see what we have been seeing all along! Or maybe it’s because the talking heads on ESPN are now calling him a top 10/5 guy. What ever the heads say the people buy it!

      • KCMikeG

        Plus he’s not killing us two games a year with chokeland.

      • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

        I’m not a Geno guy. No secret there but I’d rather have him than Joekel. Joekel has static feet and bad hands. At least Geno has potential

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        I’d rather take Floyd and build a genuine defense than risk a possible joke in Smith. I don’t really buy into the draft so you can trade. Look at the teams you’re talking about post draft who do we trade him for?

      • http://www.facebook.com/erika.motley.3 Erika Groth

        I think we are cursed honestly. Because I doubt we do what you suggested and we probably go DT or OT replacing either a 1st round pick or possibly a 3rd from last year. This offseason everyone seems so pleased with Pioli type moves in FA and trading for A.Smith. Personally I don’t think Alex is all that good however even if he turns out being good in 4-6 years we will need a new QB again… this off season from the A. Smith trade to now has been a drag.

  • http://twitter.com/biglump007 Leon Ritz

    Man you are trying every angle possible to get Geno drafted by the Chiefs lol. I really don’t think it will be hard to trade the pick especially if teams think Jacksonville is interested. If teams think Jacksonville wants Geno then someone will come calling in the next couple weeks, that’s if they haven’t already.

    • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

      There’s a better chance of winning the lottery, being struck by lightning and having a Russian mig fall on your head in the same day than someone trading for the first pick. It’s not going to happen period. You guys act like this is Joe Montana. There is too much tape of Geno badly missing open receivers for that to have a chance. The Colts dangled this pick last year with two real top pick prospects with no takers and you think this weak ass draft will have a trade for number one? Give me a break. Don’t get me wrong I would love for a sucker to bite on it but it won’t happen.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        Thank you for your poignant thinking. Redskins already had the trade locked down at this point for RG3 because they saw a genuine franchise starting QB. Wish we had scouted Cousins a little more.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

        So what were the colts asking for the number one pick? The point is, whatever offer that may have been made was not worth parting with Luck. They set the terms for acquiring the BPA. That is smart and that is what we should do if Geno continues to climb in value.. Imo

        • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

          You’re right and I would love to see a trade but I just don’t see it.

      • Boyd Griffin

        the colts didnt dangle shit dummy

        • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

          So NFL Network was just making shit up then I guess. Obviously I should have called Peter’s brother for my information.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chad.griffeth Chad Griffeth

    I completely agree. Just look at the pool of talent/picks San Diego was able to garner the year they took Eli Manning. With the downside of having a talented, athletic, accurate QB to learn from Alex Smith…wait, didn’t the 49ers just do that? A team can’t have too many talented QBs, even though that would instantly call into question KC’s plans for Smith long term. The bottom line is no team has a chance in the league without a franchise QB. If Alex Smith doesn’t pan out, fans will scream if/when Geno does. Being ‘top-heavy’ at QB in the NFL is a good problem to have, and one KC has never experienced.

    • KCMikeG

      Ground Hog Day for Alex Smith!

  • croes

    Trade him this year -trade him next year – groom him for two years from now- QBs have value we know that better than anyone (see Alex Smith trade)

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Excellent point.

      • Doug McD

        The only real risk with this move is the lack of benefit to us in the coming year. We would have our first pick talent on the bench if we didn’t move him now.

        Did everyone see that the Donkeys actually cut Dumervil by accident.

        • micah stephenson

          Its ok. They thought R.Wilson needed to ride the bench for a yr and you see how that turned out.

          • Doug McD

            One year doesn’t count. All you have to do is look at Matt Cassel.

          • KCMikeG

            Kaepernick too.

          • njjohn

            And for every Wilson, Kaepernick, etc., there are far, far more failures.

          • micah stephenson

            So What! You can say that for every single position! Does that mean the chiefs shud never eva draft a QB while the other 31 teams do?

        • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

          Stupid fax machines. I love it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

          Neither Kaepernick nor Wilson were expected to be drafted in the 1st round. That’s Tom Brady syndrome. Geno smith is more like leaf/Jamarcus syndrome.

          • njjohn

            I wouldn’t be THAT CRUEL to Geno.

          • Boyd Griffin

            im on the fence. but FYI. GenoSmiths College statsmake those 2 guys stats look like piss

    • KCMikeG

      EXCELLENT! I love this idea Paddy and kudos for being the first one I have heard promoting this strategy! Dorsey & Reid can tell these tells “You can pay me now or you can pay me later”. No way Geno gets past the Jets with the “Mayocks bump” and as you said multiple teams already had need and interest. I kept saying we should be able to negotiate a trade down but why not back up our predraft offer and take Geno #1. While we wouldn’t get a 2nd round pick to replace our treaded #34.
      Why wouldn’t we want quality depth at the most important position on the field? We have struggled so long at QB because we settled for a serviceable starter and no one we would want on the field holding the clipboard on the sidelines and another guy who we write off without even knowing what we have. Andy Reid will change the way the QB position is managed in KC – finally. He will get picks for us when he trades one or more of them to make room for the next better opportunity like Boyd next year with the picks we get this year or worse case no one will meet our price and we keep Geno. Easy Micah….remember to breathe.

    • superman_25_58

      Rodgers sat for 3 years behind Favre I believe…… Just saying.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        Alex Smith isn’t Brett Favre…

        • Chris Tarrants

          That’s right Alex Smith was actually a 1st overall pick! I liked Favre but Rodgers was told to not watch Farves play but rather his mechanics and that’s it! He was great don’t get me wrong but he was a gun slinging pick machine

  • GDL40

    IF ONLY THE FOOTBALL GODS WILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN !!!!! still seems like the most logical move! There will be no shortage of teams willing to trade with us once we pick him……if they all get stubborn and butthurt, then guess what, we have an awesome QB to develop for a year or two and once he’s ready to start we will be headed to the SUPER BOWL! ….. that’s why I REAAALLLYY hope KC dsnt do something stupid and give Alex a new contract anytime soon …

  • Daniel Mayfield

    Pick him and keep him! Put him as a backup for a year. GENO can be the right QB for the team. The Franchise QB! I’ve seen it, I believe it, and I think they should. I think he can be better then Alex and lead the team.

  • Bosco Cletus

    I tried to read this article, but the tears from me laughing about the Dumervil muck up kept getting in the way!! I’m sorry, its funny, and its Friday, I guess the Broncos dont know what time zone they live in.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      lol

    • Troy Utt

      LOL!!! The winner of today’s “DUMB DONKEY” AWARD !

  • Priest4Prez

    This is an akward situation: So the Chiefs organization and Alex Smith are going to a dinner date right (stop me if you’ve heard this one) but at the last minute they say; “Hey, we have a previous applicant who could be joining us tonight as well; he could show up or not at all. I hope that’s alright.”
    We may get him regardless but I’m thinking the Raiders are desperate as well as the Jaguars. I say work the pick for all it’s worth; I still want Geno but there’s point in beating that nail into everyone’s head anymore. After all you can’t spell CHAMPIONSHIP without Smith(?)…..

    • Derek

      lol maybe SMIPH but there is no T in championshiip…I presume this was meant to be some clever yet pathetic joke?

  • oldchiefsfan

    At the very least let it “leak out” that the Chiefs intend to take him! Unless somebody makes it worth our while.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Right. Tell the teams in the top ten, look, you want this guy, trade with us because if not, we will take him and sell him off anyway.

    • KCMikeG

      That’s what Paddy is doing with their post. let the rumor spread throughout the FanSide Network and beyond. Great work!

  • toperspective

    I’d like to see the Chiefs trade the pick with a component of the trade being a switch of #1 picks in 2014. If they made this trade with the Raiders, Jags or Jets they may end up with the #1 pick again next year because those teams are going to be horrible.

    • micah stephenson

      At least the Raiders, jags and Jets wud b set at QB while we wud b trying to trade a bunch of picks to them to move up and get a QB.

      • njjohn

        What if Chase Daniel turns out to be the “real deal”? Have you given that any thought? Have you actually given any thought, at least once, based on his actual game tapes, and games, that he might not be a top flight pro? Maybe?

        Is there a chance that KC is in a better position with Alex Smith, Chase Daniel and then drafting someone later in the draft?

        • micah stephenson

          Baaa haaaa haaa haaaaa!!!! Lol. Lmao!!! If Chase was so good why didnt anyone draft him?

          • steve james

            The NFL does not like short Quarterbacks. Give him about 3-4 inches and he would have been drafted imho.

    • KCMikeG

      Nice twist. Plus we could get a 2nd round pick back.

    • Danny W

      It would be a gamble though if that rolls where to reverse.

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    It is an absolutely freaking nightmare year to be at #1. I could see Geno being great or Jamarcus. Really dont like him being a crybaby. I havnt looked but Reid has probably evaluated most every QB from this draft AND next years. If next years #3-5 rated qbs are just as good wait. I still like tyler wilson with 3rd rd. Draft best DL/olb. Hali getting old

    • Johnny Ubben

      I’m with you on this one, I really like Tyler Wilson. I think he’d be a great pick up in the 3rd. It’s looking more and more to me like we’ll be able to trade down, so I don’t see us picking up Geno unless it’s like Patrick says, as trade bait.

      Of course it’s hard to say anything for sure with Reid and Dorsey at the helm..

      • Derek

        would prefer steadman bailey and howie long’s kid as the two third picks this year and geno number 1 overall still…though I do like manuel he won’t be around and wilson is likely going to the cowboys anyway…so that leaves one other quaterback in the draft that would be a late-round sleeper as well…matt scott…probably get him mid-late 4th which would be nice but he’s not NFL-ready so if alex went down we’d be fucked lol…

    • micah stephenson

      Nightmare? Huh!?!?. Its a dream come true! We can finally draft the best QB and noone can stop us(unless we fall for the Geno aint worth it so let us get him trick). We dont have to trade a bunch of picks to move up to get him ether! To move up next yr it will b give me yo 1st rd, 2nd rd, & next yrs 1st and we will think about.

      • njjohn

        Why do you view him as they did Andrew Luck, John Elway, Peyton Manning and QB’s like that? Those were “dream come true” QB picks. You might be right about Geno, but your absolute knowledge is downright creepy.

  • ladner morse

    The Chiefs have set themselves up perfectly to take the best QB available in the draft: Genotype Smith.

    Shake hands with the commissioner and kiss the 1st round QB drought goodbye.

    Patrick Allen… your’e my hero.

    • Danny W

      His Genotype is winning.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        His genotype lost to Syracuse.

        • Danny W

          Well I don’t think that was anywhere close to Geno Smith’s fault. His defense gave up like three bills on the ground. That’s going to keep most quarterbacks off the field wouldn’t you say?

          • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

            I’d say I’d like to draft a quarterback that can beat a terrible Syracuse team. With a mediocre defense that had the luxury of playing the Big East. It just doesn’t feel right. I don’t know what it is.

          • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

            No problem, we can move on to the stellar Texas Tech game. I really don’t understand the mentality of drafting the best of the worst QB draft possibly of the all time 5 worst QB drafts. Especially when we have other more concerning needs.

          • Derek

            the only player I would be willing to give Geno up for is the second-coming of JJ Watt and there isn’t one this year so It’s Geno or we just wasted the career of jamaal charles
            If for some god-forsaken reason we trade out and pass then we had better get a butt-load in next years draft compensation anything shy of a first swap this year and the second back and then first and second next year (which noone will do that I’m sure) we’d be fucking ourselves

          • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

            Landry Jones’ defense gave up five bills to Geno and his boys on the road and guess which qb won. Geno is great when he’s great and he did play a great game against OU. My point is you can’t blame his defense for everything. He was flat out bad at Texas Tech and he’s way too inconsistent. I’ve seen him miss receivers ten yards open by fifteen yards. He’s got a ton of potential and if they draft him I don’t think it would be bad but he won’t be an instant fix like so many seem to think. I think he’s mentally behind where a top pick should be so he needs to sit and learn for a couple years. Since I don’t think there’s a realistic trade up or down scenario or anyone better at a position they need I think they should take him for future use. After FA their biggest need still unaddressed is linebacker and that doesn’t need to be a first pick. Point is I think they should pick him but not because he needs to start but because who else could they pick that would be better?

    • dominicscarlatti

      Genotype Smith is an impressive prospect, but I’d prefer his older brother, Prototype Smith…

  • Danny W

    At this point it would be a really shrewd business move to make by holding other teams hostage or even just drafting him and letting him come up. He’s going to be a talented quarterback there is no doubt in my mind. I’d say they could get a first and second for him or just develop him into our own Russell Wilson Kolin Kapernick type of ball player.

    • Derek

      interesting how you’re getting behind Geno all of sudden when I remember you being all about milliner as number uno

  • chiefridgy

    Draft Geno and trade Chase Daniels to somebody.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

      It just cut Stanzi and move on.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        *or not it

      • chiefridgy

        That will work too

        • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

          He can give Tanney a lift to the airport.

          • chiefridgy

            Honestly, I would like to see something from tanney

          • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

            Fair enough. Stanzi can drive himself to the airport

          • chiefridgy

            Hahaha

      • Danny W

        I would have no problem moving on from pretty Ricky

        • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

          He’s as pointless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.

          • chiefridgy

            That’s funny right there

        • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

          Ohh, he’s a fancy boy. Ohh yes. If you want to be Goldilocks on the field, you better be a bad ass. (Clay)

  • redchiefs

    I totally agree, if no one is wanting to trade, i.e. sitting back expecting him to fall, I say the Chiefs draft him, then trade him or trade Chase Daniels

  • dominicscarlatti

    I won’t be shocked if we stand pat at #1 and take Geno. It would be quite a power play, but for all we know, Andy Reid may love Geno and covet him as the developmental guy to sit and learn from Alex Smith. Alex is signed for two seasons, so that would give Reid and Dorsey time to really assess Geno as the potential long-term answer at QB.

    • KCMikeG

      Plus by looking like we aren’t taking a QB it keeps all the others interested.

  • disqus_Mwtx38yVFA

    But chiefs could trade in next years draft to get McCarron or Manziel who are more talented that Geno, we could give something to go for them, so better take a first pick of great value that could have a huge impact

    • Derek

      but the most-important factor you’re forgetting is ANY and all top-talent at the QB position will be gone before KC even has a shot in 2014 because the team we have now is serviceable and won’t be quite as embarassing in 2013. It’s likely we’re an 8-8 or 9-7 team but Denver will still have at least 11 or 12 wins and win the division regardless so again a mediocre team that won’t make the play-offs but with a weak enough schedule that we’re stuck picking mid-late in the draft all top-ten talent like murray or maccaron will be long gone. This is the ONLY shot KC gets at getting the best QB in the draft. Stop playing games, make the fans happy and take a shot draftig Geno overall and taking daniels a former missouri tiger who didn’t even make the cut to be drafted in the first place….yeah….collin Klien would’ve been better lmao!

  • http://twitter.com/Real_THamilton RealTaumHamilton

    Man, Dorsey and Reid have made this FUN!! I couldn’t believe earlier in the game how the #1 draft choice looked like a detriment. Now it looks like it may indeed translate into greatness!! keep rollin’, RED!!!

  • Chris Foosman

    This should be titled “Chiefs should convince NFL They’re going to take Geno”. I think with all the guys they’ve signed, they’re a good draft, with an o-lineman on top, from contending.

    • micah stephenson

      I rather see Albert, Stephenson and a 3rd rd RT along with Geno Smith!

      • Chris Foosman

        And that’s why you know what love is.

  • micah stephenson

    Who are these people???? When I say I want Geno its im stupid, Dum, bad fan, & everything else. When Patrick say he wants Geno he gets none of the same treatment I get.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ned.fianders.3 Ned FIanders

      for what its worth i think you and patrick are both wrong

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        Thank you.

      • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

        Lol, me too but who knows maybe Geno will get 27 rings.

    • KCMikeG

      Got to back you on this Micah.

    • Danny W

      For the record I think your stupid and dumb but not a bad fan. ;-p You know I’ve always been on the Geno Bandwagon just haven’t been as big of a megaphone about as you have.

      • micah stephenson

        Dam.

      • njjohn

        Geno Smiths PARENTS haven’t had as big of a megaphone as Micah!

      • micah stephenson

        I dont know enough about you, to say if you are dum or stupid, but by just looking at yo picture, YOU SHO IS UGLY!!!! LOL

    • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

      I saw the “bad fan” comment you’re talking about. You’re a passionate fan just like the rest of us. We disagree about what will make our favorite team better but I guarantee if A. Smith wins a superbowl in KC you’ll be stoked just like I would if G. Smith did. This kind of bantering is what gets us through baseball season, lol. You say some shit that makes me scratch my head but I’m sure we could sit together at Arrowhead and get along fine. Your man fetish on Geno Smith is a little odd but I won’t judge and if they draft him I’ll crack open a cold beer and think of you being in orgasmic bliss and I’ll root for Geno because he’s a Chief and I’ll hope for him to succeed. Having different points of view with the same goal doesn’t make one of us a bad fan it just makes one of us wrong.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

        Lolol, orgasmic bliss.

    • njjohn

      He, for the most part, is saying draft him and THEN TRADE HIM, not just enshrine him into Canton as you have done.

      • micah stephenson

        Canton??? Dude quit wasting yo time.

  • micah stephenson

    Are you sure Geno Smith is a top ten player? Cus the fans on this website have been blasting me all week for thinking that!

    • KCMikeG

      He always has been but all the “experts” Mayocks included, got so hung up on the QB class last year which has nothing to do with this year. Now all it takes for Mayocks to launch Geno to a top 10 pick is to see him throw some passes? So his pro day is so much more valuable than his entire body of work? I’ve been a big fan of Mayocks but I’m beginning to think we could use a little less “analysis”. Guys are coming from no where and climbing up or sliding down the rankings without even playing a down. WTH?

    • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

      In this draft he probably is but that’s like being the smartest kid on the short bus.

      • njjohn

        Yep….he’s the skinny kid at fat camp

    • njjohn

      Most of the people I listen to on TV do NOT think he is a top ten player, not even close, however, need, especially when it comes to a quarterback pushes teams to take a chance on a player that they would not normally do in any other position. Almost all the people I hear feel he is a mid-late first round choice, some go to top of the second round.

      That doesn’t mean he can’t be a star, but when you are taking a player number ONE in the draft, it should be a no brainer, slam dunk, don’t have to think about where that player should be…no discussion at all like there is with Smith.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

        Understandable, but it’s all about value from a supply/demand standpoint. The best player is the one with the most value, because if you take him, you have the greatest asset and therefore can leverage him. You are in the positron of power. Teams want him, because he has talent and displays upside in a league of have & have-not’s.

      • micah stephenson

        Can I get 1 measly link to a website saying Geno is not a top ten player? None of the top players are slam.dunks this yr. The players are grouped 1-10. 11-20. 20-30.

  • Calchiefsfan

    I was hoping this would happen. As we get closer to the draft this should get more intense and the price for the first pick should go up. Unless Reid wants Geno we should trade the pick not draft him and then trade him. We’ll get more for the pick.

    • Danny W

      It’s really which ever, if the clock is ticking on the final seconds draft him and then work out the trade after.

      • Calchiefsfan

        I hear ya. It’s just that having been a negotiator all my business life I know that you get the most out of a buyer when the clock is ticking and they are competing with other buyers. It becomes a bidding war with time running out. After the draft the sense of urgency is gone and my experience tells me that when that happens the value of the offers goes down.
        One other thing, if we try to trade him next year we won’t get anywhere near what we could get for him now. The question all the teams would be asking is “why are they getting rid of him?”. “What do they know that would want them to dump him?” “If he’s so great why wouldn’t they keep him?” Kind of like what a lot of people were saying about Alex Smith.
        So what I’m saying is make the trade when the final seconds are ticking on the clock. We might get lucky and get their first, second and third round picks if the frenzy gets crazy enough.

        • Boyd Griffin

          Then we get Clowney with the 2014 1st rd pick we tradedown for

    • superman_25_58

      If we trade it than we need to trade it to any team not named Denver, Oakland, nor the Chargers. I don’t want to have to face him twice a year til god knows when.

  • micah stephenson

    Is it just me or do anybody find that strange that when we needed A QB, Jacksonville, oak, NY, philly, buff, arz all said “Geno is aint worth the 1st pick? But now that we settled for Alex (Cassel 2.0) Smith all of a sudden they want Geno. Chiefs are some SUCKAS!!! If we have the #1 pick again next yr, I cud here the teams saying “uh un, you dont want that QB, he aint worth #1″. Then the same team who tell you he aint worth it, picks him a few picks later.

    • http://twitter.com/Real_THamilton RealTaumHamilton

      Hey, Micah – it’s all smoke and mirrors at this point. this is where we see what kind of poker player Dorsey is. Hang on for the ride, man

      • micah stephenson

        I wudnt go “All in” on Alex Smith!

  • micah stephenson

    I wonder if Dorsey said Geno is now the Best player available will the Haters b ok with the Chiefs drafting him #1.

  • chiefs727

    i say draft geno with the first pick and keep him the reason i say this is because i would rather see him flop and be a bust for us than to see him go to the faders and become a star so draft him and let him learn under reid….my second choice with the first pick would be sharrif floyd out of florida ive watched him play every saturday he has played for florida he is a beast!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ned.fianders.3 Ned FIanders

    no way. take floyd or fisher. we already have enough average qbs on the roster

    • micah stephenson

      No way! Take GENO SMITH! we already have enough LTs and DTs on the team.

      • njjohn

        Who’s the RT?

        • micah stephenson

          My cousin Donald Stephenson is the RT.

    • Danny W

      The article isn’t necessarily that we keep Geno Smith you do get that right? Teams like the Bills, Browns, Eagles, Jax, and Oakland are really desperate for a quarterback. We could hold them hostage for picks.

  • http://twitter.com/EdMaldo1 Don Quijote

    Folks forget Geno. That train is gone. Dorsey will not draft Geno. Watch Detroit move up. They need a LT.

    • Danny W

      Who cares who wants who as long as we get more picks?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tyler.eckstein.31 Tyler Eckstein

    I’ve said it before, if Geno is as good as advertised we need to trade our 1 pick to Arz or Phi that way Oak doesn’t draft him and we don’t end up playing him twice a year.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

      I’d prefer playing Palmer twice a year too! :)

    • Danny W

      If Oakland offered us their first, second, and first next year I’d let them have him. I’d say Oakland can usually find a way of screwing up a situation even if they had Aaron Rodgers and I firmly believe the first pick next year would be pretty high. I would also ask more from Oakland if they wanted the trade than any other team in the NFL unless it was the Bolts, or Broncs because I hate them all evenly.

      • micah stephenson

        I still wudnt do it just cus its oak!

  • Chiefs1964

    Your persistent. I’ll give you that.

  • micah stephenson

    To all the people rooting for us to get Geno, Thank You!!!

    • Danny W

      Your welcome

    • njjohn

      All three of you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

      Make it 4. You have to be bold to make it in the leauge boys! Geno is a no-brainer after his pro day performance. He brings leverage.

    • steve james

      You don’t worry about his wonderlick? (or however you spell it)

      I am also curious, I get from all your posts you think he is the future and will take us to the promised land. But would you want to draft him and throw him to the wolves? I don’t like that Idea. Even if we do some how enter an alternate universe and we draft him Alex Smith as the starter for the next 2-4 years is the right thing to do with this team. Their is no question that Alex Smith is a smart cookie and he can take you to the playoffs and win. I want us to draft a hof quarterback as much as the next fan and make our own dynasty. But I think Reid given his track record, did not think that would happen with Geno. Considering he has done wonders with less than hof quarterbacks and he has more appearances and victories under his belt than the entire Chiefs franchise (with the exception of IV of course) I am going to put my Chiefs hat on plan my trip to camp and a couple games and get ready to scream my A** off. Laters I got to go drink my red koolaid:)

      • micah stephenson

        You wont haft to start Geno yr one but im pretty sure he cud beat out bum as Alex ( Cassel 2.0) Smith!

  • Guest

    When was the last time we’ve seen a 1st overall make a pick to shop them? Eli Manning? How’d that turn out for the dolts?

    As an aside, please find the grammar check button. “Is was” – wow.

    • Danny W

      I don’t know I’d say Phillip Rivers is top five as a quarterback and they got extra picks. I’d say it turned out pretty damn good.

    • KCMikeG

      On top of Rivers taking them to the playoffs four times and had five years of success throwing for 3,100-4,300 yards and 21-34 TD’s. Look at ALL they got in the deal.

      Rights to 2004 4th Overall Pick – Used to sign Quarterback Philip Rivers.
      2005 1st Round Draft Pick – Used to draft and sign Linebacker Shawne Merriman.
      2004 3rd Round Draft Pick – Used to draft and sign Kicker Nate Kaeding.
      2005 5th Round Draft Pick – Traded to Tampa Bay Buccaneers for Left Tackle Roman Oben.

      Looks like it worked out pretty good for them. Plus these extra picks allowed them to address other needs with their normal picks.

  • Guest

    Worst draft ever to have #1 pick.

    • njjohn

      Been saying that since the season ended.

  • Quinn McCollom

    No thats just stupid logic he’s overrated. Draft someone that will be amazing and won’t ride the bench. IMO the only people the chiefs could take at #1 are Eric Fisher, Dion Jordan, Star Lotulelei, Sheldon Richardson, Jarvis Jones, and I’ll throw Joeckel in there even though I think he’s all hype and not as good as he really is.

    • Danny W

      Did you read the article Quinn or just the headline? He gave reasons like up to seven teams wanting him and would be willing to trade a first and second round pick to get him. By all accounts one of the players you mentioned would be were we would end up drafting. Troll much?

    • njjohn

      If his health checks out, which I believe it will, I think they should draft Star Lotulelei with the top pick.

    • Derek

      exactly what does drafting jordan do for us? it would a muck-up to draft a player that can’t fit your scheme….you’re about as dumb as a packer fan lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

    I just have to wonder if I’m the only person who saw Geno go 7-5 in an awful if not downright embarrassment of a big 12. I’m sorry but I really don’t get it. To be honest pro-days are kind of a joke. We draft for a possibility of a trade or we draft to fill a need. I will take need everyday.

    Still can’t get past the fact he only had 2 td’s against Syracuse. Syracuse. I mean… Syracuse.

    • Danny W

      To be fair he wasn’t on the field much that game at all. If we went by players records in college Tim Tebow would be starting somewhere and considered a good quarterback. Your reasoning for him not being impressive are inaccurate.

      • KCMikeG

        They ran for 79 yards while Syracuse controlled the ball rushing for 349 yards owning the WV defense – or lack there of. While the Syracuse D pinned their ears back and came at him every down with no threat of a run game.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ansley.ogden Ansley Ogden

        He played the entire Syracuse game. And it was not pretty. It’s not inaccurate to say that Syracuse was a terrible football team with a not good defense. I guess I just don’t see the qualities of 1st pick overall in Geno.

    • Derek

      you’re nuts! texas had a premiere pass-rush and he looked good against them and against a stellar OU secondary he put up great numbers as well….he only had one REALLY bad game all season and that was against K-State when they were in the prime and headed to the BCU game…granted he didn’t play well against syracuse but NOBODY on the whole damn field looked good that day on either team and likely weather had a pertty large impact. It amounts to his team lost games they shouldn’t have because his D was attrocious and his offensive line just mediocre (a lot like the Green Bay Packers) it was a three-man show with smith, austin, and bailey end of story. Best think in this draft is pick up geno 1 and bailey in the 3rd as they already have a lot of chemistry. He is a black aaron rodgers…give him the chance and I think are a legitimate contender to win the AFC-west and maybe even a superbowl as long at isn’t against seatle or san fran of course as they’re serious dream-teams

  • micah stephenson

    Why did you say if they can? Noone can stop them from it if they want him.

  • joshua woody

    not trying to be rude but get off the geno wagon. everyday your begging for this guy,I love your articles man, but you act as if you know geno is going to be this hall of famer, dude your gonna look pretty dam dumb if alex tears it up and geno looks like th fucking slob many predict. so do yourself a favor man stop the geno train at the next stop, get off and relize geno is not happening. so get behind alex and give the guy some support. your a chiefs fan right man?

    • Derek

      you think geno with be a “slob” at QB!? you’re fuckin retarded dude, like seriously….he has gotten more praise for work-ethic and football brains than ANYBODY in years and doesn’t have a SINGLE off-the-field issue like half of the prospects this year do or any medical issues like the other half do lol

  • micah stephenson

    Did yall see wur Dorsey signed a 2 yr 6 mill deal to play NOSE TACK with the 49s?

  • njjohn

    NO NFL team is going to think the Chiefs are going to draft Geno Smith. NONE. Why? Because they won’t.

    • Boyd Griffin

      not the point. jags may get him tho. and chiefs can and SHOULD use that as leverege

  • Don417

    Geno scored a 7 on the wonderlic. Dumber than a can of anchovies.

    • Darkwolf1414

      I don’t know if it was you but I’ve seen this claim that Geno scored a 7 on the Wonderlic before. I want the link to where you saw that. I have been trying to find his score on the wonderlic test and it is nowhere to be found. If you can’t provide proof then I might as well start saying that Don417 has an IQ of 35. It must be true because I typed on ArrowheadAddict!

  • Don417

    Chiefs must take BPA, period.
    Geno isn’t even close. These articles are dumb.

  • Outback Chief

    He would at least be trade currency for another draft and he might even surprise who knows

  • http://www.facebook.com/Iznontek Ian French

    100% true. At the very least, we gain the best QB prospect and create great competition at the most important/critical position in football. Its the smart move and if we get a lucrative trade that suits our needs better, so be it!

  • ArrowFan

    I see absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t pick him and keep him. The only way we trade is if it is very sweet deal. I would swap with Jacksonville for the 2nd rd pick. Whatever happens with Geno I just don’t want him going to the Faiders.

  • freshmeat62

    Geno Smith is the next Brady Quinn!

    • Don417

      probably not even that good. Bust,bust,bust.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michaelrhoward Michael R Howard

    Patrick, I think you have a good analysis. However, something tells me they’re going to take Fisher. It is interesting they picked up Schwartz, though.

  • Don417

    Who takes a player #1 and then sits them on the bench? Collosal waste of a pick. We’d be the laughingstock of the NFL. Your Genobust mancrush is creepy. Get over it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.mcdonald.35110418 James McDonald

    No thanks on actually drafting Geno. I like Alex for the foreseeable future. I’m all for trading down if it’s manageable but it’s not going to take drafting him most likely. I’d rather draft down, get a second or third round pick (on top of the compensatory one I expect us to get for the third round) and nab Eric Fischer in the first round then an OG, ILB and a decent companion for Charles in the third round.

  • Boyd Griffin

    Youre a Genius. I went on this rant the second that ESPN aired Genos AMAZING performance to my roomate your EXACT point. You only worded it wat more brilliantly and the Browns trade was a VERY nice touch. I agree with you 1000%. Lets hope a team will make an OBSURD offer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.carboni.1 Andrew Carboni

    Everyone who says this man is not great is right, he’ not great right
    now. No one is saying this guy is comparable to Luck or RGlll no one,
    but what most experts are saying is that Geno has the talent, he has the
    knowledge and most of all he has the work ethic to “become” great in
    the NFL and all he needs is a great coach to guide him to that level,
    Who better then hmmmmm let me think here for a second, who is a
    quarterback guru ummm gee i don’t know maybe ANDY FU@#ING REID. If
    anyone can make this kid great it’s our coach, because if he goes to the
    Raiders the Cardinals or the Bills and does above average, I’m gonna be
    furious, because all of us would have known how great our coaches could
    have made him. But instead we have a bandaid QB for a few years who
    will be good and maybe a post season appearance or two but never
    anything special just another boring retread check down QB! YAY can’t
    wait!

  • Aiken_Drum

    Eh, I have a question.

    “The Chiefs have done such a good job of filling their needs in free agency that they can take any payer at any position.”

    Are you saying that the Chiefs simply have done a decent job at filling holes, or are you suggesting that they have improved the play at those POS’s?

    I see a ton of new bodies. As to the quality of those new bodies compared to their predecessors, I’m not so sure that they are all upgrades.