Chiefs, Donnie Avery Contract Details Are Out

December 23, 2012; Kansas City, MO, USA; Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Donnie Avery (11) is tackled by Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Javier Arenas (21) in the first half at Arrowhead Stadium. The Colts won 20-13. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

According to Adam Caplan, the Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to a three-year deal with former Indianapolis Colts WR Donnie Avery.

The deal, according to the report, is worth $11 million over course of the three years.

Though we don’t know the exact terms of the deal, $11 million broken up evenly that would give Avery around $3.6 million a year.

This is a pretty solid contract. If Avery can at the very least, replace some of the production the Chiefs got from Steve Breaston back in 2010, then this is a worthy investment.

I do have concerns about Avery’s hands but his speed should hep to keep defenses honest, even if Alex Smith’s arm doesn’t.

What do you think, Addicts? A lot of folks think the Chiefs are overpaying free agents. Did GM John Dorsey spend too much on Avery?

Topics: Donnie Avery, Kansas City Chiefs

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    Not bad at all. Starting-caliber WR for about $3.5 per. I wonder how much is guaranteed?

    • Jason

      Starting caliber? Might be a stretch. I like this deal a little bit of an over payment but hell be nice filling in for injs or 4 wide sets. I don’t see him starting over Baldwin or mccluster.

      • Brody Hall

        Really?… U don’t see him starting over Baldwin?! I can see andy Reid himself starting over Baldwin lol. That guys is gonna haft to play this season outside the top three on the depth chart and work his way back up. Avarey may have a little concern in the hands department… But at least he can get open to begin with.

        • Jason

          I’m pretty sure if Baldwin performs like he did last offseason there’s no way Reid doesn’t start him opposite bowe. And then of course I like mccluster over Avery in the slot, I expect big things from mccluster I think he finally finds his groove.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            When? In training camp (against a bunch of bum cornerbacks) or during the regular season?

          • micah stephenson

            Lol. Lol. What!!! Lol. I cant remeber one single catch by Baldwin! Wait I do remeber he cuaght a ball one day and started celebrating like he cuaght the game winning catch in the superbowl. How many catches/yards did Baldwin have, becus I cant remeber anything but him geting jamed at the LOS waaay to easily for his size and him always jumping to catch the ball with 1 hand but never really being close to catching it.

          • jesse

            he had matt cassel.and brady quinn throwing to him. oh im sorry, i mean throwing to bowe. alex smith should help baldwins game.

          • David Fritch

            This made me LOL because it’s so true! He made that one catch and was ready to go home and party!!

        • superman_25_58

          Getting open don’t mean anything if you can’t catch the ball. Seemed like last season if we needed a first down it was mostly thrown to Mccluster and he would catch everything possible it seemed like. I say Avery will most likely be fighting for the #2 spot which he could win over Baldwin IMO.

      • Stacy D. Smith

        I hope you’re kidding. He had more yards last year than McCluster had in his last two seasons. He had 200 more yards last year than Baldwin’s had in his career. He’s the 2nd best WR on this roster today. It’s his job to lose.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tyler.eckstein.31 Tyler Eckstein

          I like the move but Avery is a push for a number 2 receiver probably would fit a team best as 3rd receiver. With that’s said he will have to be a 2 WR then Baldwin then McCluster as primary slot guy.

          • superman_25_58

            I think Mcclusters hands are more reliable than Avery’s

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Not sure about that either. Avery’s drops are overstated. I’ve seen a bunch of bad drop stats posted since he was signed.

        • superman_25_58

          Avery has also caught passes from Luck, and I don’t need to say anything bout who Mccluster was catching passes from.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            He’s caught passes from a few different QB’s. He’s still clearly more productive than McCluster.

          • superman_25_58

            The douches running the team didn’t know how to utilize Mccluster til last year. Avery got beat out by a rookie in TY Hilton if that tells you how good he is.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Hilton played in the slot. Avery played on the outside.
            I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

          • superman_25_58

            Lol ya and al the QB’s he has caught passes from are 1000X better than any Qb that our WR’s have had to deal with plain and simple.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            Bowe managed to produce with the very same quarterbacks McCluster had throwing to him.

          • superman_25_58

            That’s bc as soon as the Qb’s hiked the ball that’s where they were throwing it too regardless. Not the other receivers fault that they locked onto their first target in Bowe 95% of the time

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I conceded he was misused in the past, but to extrapolate that out to “McCluster’s better than Avery” is a bit much for me.

          • superman_25_58

            To say that a unproven is better than Mccluster is a bit much for me. So we will agree to disagree. lol

          • Stacy D. Smith

            You’re right. The guy with 781 receiving yards in Indianapolis just last year is unproven. Not sure what I was thinking.

          • superman_25_58

            The dude couldn’t beat out any of the WR’s in STL, TENN, or IND? Last year was by far his best year of his career and he is proven? I’ll wait to see if he is proven on the field these next few seasons bc reaching 700 yards once coming into his 5th year isn’t proven IMO. I’m willing to give him a chance and hope that his hands skills finally catch up with his speed skills.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            You’re clearly aren’t familiar with Donnie Avery. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but it should give you reason for pause. Donnie Avery has ALWAYS been a starter in this league. He missed the 2010 season due to an injury. That lead to him losing his roster spot in St. Louis. He was signed by Tennessee, but he still wasn’t healthy. He really wasn’t healthy again until last season (where again he started all but two games). He’s logged 43 starts since being drafted. McCluster? Try 17.

            The numbers don’t support your argument.

          • superman_25_58

            If Mccluster had a decent Qb and was used in the right way from the start than I have no doubt in my mind that this discussion wouldn’t be happening right now IMO. I actually started digesting into some of these players and I have a better feel for each of them and gotta say looks very promising. Is Avery a stud? Still yet to be determined like many on the roster before him. If Alex Smith plays like he did in his last 2 years in SF than, I believe our receivers will be lights out. Hell we might even get 10 in the Pro Bowl next year lol

          • Stacy D. Smith

            That’s purely hypothetical. Neither of us knows how he might’ve produced with better quarterback play. Here’s what we DO know, Avery has done more in this league. That’s not up for debate.

          • superman_25_58

            Hypothetical? I don’t believe, so cause a good QB makes a good WR even better IMO. Avery may have done more but not by much and that has to do with having a good QB to throw the ball to you period. You think Avery would of put up 700+ yards if he were on the Chiefs team last year? If I were to guess I would say HELL no he wouldn’t.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            I could name dozens of wide receivers that were never made whole by elite level quarterback play. That’s as ridiculous an NFL notion as I’ve ever heard.

            Steve Breaston posted 700 yards in the same offense just one year prior. I’m not sure Avery couldn’t have done the same last year. Bowe did.

            Talent tends to shine through.

            McCluster has a better quarterback now. We’ll see how much he improves (which I think he will) in this offense. I’ll bet you a steak dinner that he won’t have better numbers than Avery though, in the SAME offense. Want that action?

          • superman_25_58

            If the WR wasn’t made whole having an elite QB throwing to him than than something is wrong with the receiver. Hells yes I’m down to get in on the action lol.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            That’s the point I’ve been trying to make the entire time. A lot of what ails McCluster’s game has nothing to do with quarterback play.

            The bet needs a few conditions. A steak dinner can certainly range in price. Let’s call it $20. That should get you a decent steak.

            We need to figure out how the winner can claim his prize though. Ideas?

  • Doug McD

    I like this signing a lot.

    Just read that Welker is in Denver talking. Would have been nice to have Welker here.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      That’s scary. Decker-Thomas-Welker? Hello Dee Milliner. Oy…

    • Jason

      I hope pats match broncos offer, do not want another lethal weapon for manning.

    • Bigtexjayhawk

      We supp stole Robinson from Denver. Better have him stop in KC on his way back to NE and steal him too!!

  • mg2098

    Dont like it. He was out played by rookie Ty Hilton last year because of the lack on confidence Luck and coaches had in him bringing in catches. A bargain deal and roster spot is all this is. I don’t see him flourishing behind the arm of Alex Smith. The only thing to like about Avery is his speed thats about it.

  • Tom Sparks

    Why all the haten on Mr. Smith comes to K.C. He’s better than anyone we could have drafted and as far as Avery goes, I think you can always coach how to catch the ball better, but you can’t coach speed.
    So far, our new GM/HC hassle some pretty important moves that make sense. Now let’s give them a chance!
    One thing I’ve learned from not only last year, but a few similar in the past, don’t count on anything until the first ball is snapped in the beginning of Sept.

    • micah stephenson

      We hating on A.Smith(Cassel 2.0) becuase we dont think he has a higher ceiling than Geno Smith.

      • Justin Jones

        good lord not the geno thing again? u mean the guy that lost like his last 7 games last year?? geno is a gamble. alex has had 2 very good years in a row. dont like it go be a denver fan. kc fans need to get behind their team

        • Dr. Paine

          Wow I live in west virginia, and I guess you didn’t know that the WV defense was a wet tissue. Do yourself a favor and type into youtube “Geno Smith Oklahoma WVU Game” Its not a highlight film, even shows some terrible throws at the beginning of the game one of which was an interception, but it also shows how he had some legendary and clutch throws to keep his team in that game last year. Too bad the defense gave up a touchdown and gave him 20 seconds to get his team into field goal range. I know this because I watched the entire game

      • Tom Sparks

        I have heard that a Cassel 2.0 jargon and it doesn’t hold water. How good did Cassel look on the 1 @ only Playoff Game we hosted @ Arrowhead?
        How did Alex Smith look in his Playoff appearence gameS withe 49er’s? Almost got them to the Superbowl.
        Smith has a much better command of the field, better leader, & can actually READ DEFENSES! he started to come on the year before Jim Harbaugh was the coach and never looked back! He is very efficient with th ball

        • Tom Sparks

          Reply continued! This Disqus is a piece of CRAP! Every time I have to edit, it won’t type & freezes!
          He thoughts a consistently accurate pass, but most of all he is just coming into his prime and I’d the PERFECT Andy Reid QB to run the West Coast O! Just look at his stats the last 3 years, before that he had way too many OC’s before that! All Chiefs Fans going Cassel 2.0 will be eating Crow, soon!
          At least give him a fighting chance! He WANTED TO COME HERE!

  • Michael Shaw

    Maybe we are the team to get the most out of this kid to date.

    • sidibeke

      I hope so; one concern I have is that his best numbers are coming with Luck throwing to him, and A Smith is no Luck. But the west coast off may suit him. I hope so; ah to have the days of a feared O again.

    • superman_25_58

      Don’t get your hopes up, while he might get us 8 wins, none of them will be against the Broncos. They just picked up Welker on a 2 year contract and our team for what we know is a lil better but than again still might be the same as last year. Avery suffers from drops like Bowe, DeVito isn’t much of an upgrade on Dorsey, Fasano isn’t an upgrade at TE considering he will prolly be the backup TE, and we just don’t know enough about Chase Daniel on the NFL level to say he is an upgrade IMO.

  • jesse james

    I agree with tom all we can do is wait and see.Sometimes players do good with new teams and sometimes they dont all we can do is wait till that first game.

  • Guest

    Dorsey strikes again.

  • micah stephenson

    Ouch! That “even if Alex Smiths arm doesn’t” hurted! Lol. You know how I feel about weak arm QB like Cassel and Smiths! We need Geno who can stand on the Center logo and launch it to the endzone with touch and accuracy. I hope yall ready to keep watching this 5-10 yards a pass attempt offense.

    • Bigtexjayhawk

      According to Mitch Holthus on 810 if Smith would have had a few more attempts we would have had one of the best YPC last year. It is much easier to hit a WR like Avery running downfield about 10 yards, making a cB miss and going to the house vs throwing a 70 yard bomb. Get over this arm strength crap. AS is going to shred defenses next year!!

    • redchiefs

      This is a pure west coast offense. Joe Montana did not live on much more than those very same 5-10 yard passes, hitting Rice and Taylor in stride. Yards after catch man, it’s exciting time in the Kingdom

  • toperspective

    Dorsey making it rain. No wonder he signed so quickly. Have faith in Dorsey…have faith in Dorsey……

    • superman_25_58

      Making it rain average at best

  • micah stephenson

    After checking him out I kinda like D.Avery. 5’11 200 lbs. Ran a 4.2 40 bac in the day. 5 yr vet. A deep threat wr. I wanted them to get a wr so I wont complain about this move.

  • http://twitter.com/EdMaldo1 Don Quijote

    Folk don’t spend energy hating Smith. He is our QB. IF we do not do well and in same position next year then you get Johnny Football. Let rally behind Dorsey, Reid and Smith. BTW, put Baldwin back there to catch punts. Remember, we have the ex Bear’s Special Team Coach. We need another X factor!!!!

  • james

    How many wins does alex smith have to achieve this year before you haters shut up?

    • toperspective

      I’d like 10 please.

    • superman_25_58

      Just as many as the last two playoff years he had IMO

  • Joe

    We are deff over paying these free agents but we are in the winning now mentality so it’s not a bad thing I was hoping for Greg Jennings but probably won’t happen now

    • David Fritch

      I love Jennings but GB has a standing offer of 10m and there’s no way we pay more than that. He will be back in GB next year.

  • ArrowFan

    The guaranteed money is the biggest number to worry about because after that most of these contracts can turn into one year deals if the player doesn’t work out and we cut them. So I don’t see how we have over paid so far for any FA. If they under preform then they will be cut if they preform as expected then we are all even. If they break out and over perform well then the player will hold out in hopes of more money:) Honestly the only thing that gets me is draft picks we gave up for the Smith trade. Now if we end up with the Smith of the last two years then I say we got a good deal, if we end up with the other Smith then the 49′s got the us. Only time will tell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/AmericanWolfx Michael Tavis

    I think this tells you that they are pursuing a CB.

    • superman_25_58

      Well they better get the best on the market if they want a chance to compete with Denver’s Thomas, Decker, and Welker. We got beat what 38-3 or something like that the last game against Denver. I would hate to see what the score would be with Welker in the mix.

      • http://www.facebook.com/AmericanWolfx Michael Tavis

        I agree we do need a good CB opposite of Flowers but you cant compare what happened last year to anything this year. Completely different situation. We had the worst coaching last year that I have ever seen.

  • toperspective

    Welker signed for 6M. Would have rather had him over Avery for addl 2.5M. If they weren’t overpaying everyone the money would be available.

  • jlb6262

    Avery is a quality receiver. Has been around and knows what it takes to be an nfl wr. He will help take pressure off bowe and be a deep threat when needed. He still has great speed and yac should be a plus for this style of offence. West coast baby

    • superman_25_58

      Speed doesn’t mean crap if you can’t catch the dang ball. How is he a Quality WR if he has been around the league? Obviously he isn’t that good if he can’t stay with a team right?

  • superman_25_58

    The broncos have picked up one FA that by himself is better than all four of our moves combined signing in Wes Welker. Call me Debbie downer but it’s looking like it’s gonna be another long year IMO.

    • sidibeke

      Okay, you’re a debbie downer.

      • superman_25_58

        Hey it’s just what I see, I’m sure all of you see a SB team but in all honesty if this is what we have to look forward too than we won’t even make the post season IMO

        • superman_25_58

          Everyone can call me a hater or whatever don’t really care.

        • sidibeke

          Come on, man, I was joking around. You said, “call me a Debbie Downer,” so I was being compliant. It was a Mel Brooks style joke.

          You’re not a hater. You’re a passionate fan who has an idea of what this team should be and you’re not seeing the Chiefs move in that direction. I get and respect that. If everyone agreed, this would be a terribly boring site.

          And I agree that Den is having a great offseason and looks like not only the team to beat in the west but the AFC. I’m not resigned to it being a long season, but after last season, it’s hard to be too optimisitic. What I can say is that I believe this regime is trying to make the team better, it is addressing weaknesses and I am excited to see what they can do on the field.
          Keep writing what you see, Scott.

          • superman_25_58

            Thanks appreciate it. I just don’t see how signing average players besides Dunta Robinson (Maybe) is trying to win now IMO. They could of used all the money they throwing around on proven players IMO

          • Darkwolf1414

            My best friend is as passionate a Falcons fan as I am a Chiefs fan. When we signed Dunta Robinson, I texted him asking what his thoughts were on the player. This is what he texted back, word for word:

            “Cover skills avg. big heart. Sells out on every play. Sadly, he usually misses making the big play and he likes the rep of being a big hitter, so he ALWAYS tries to make the big hit, often trailing on the play. Solid nickel back, but not a great starter. U know his salary? Prob only worth $3mil I think.”

            Not a glowing review from a guy who pores over film like I do. We did sign Sean Smith, too. So I think that takes care of the CB opposite Flowers. The only issue I have with Smith is, being 6’3″ he’s REALLY big for a CB. It’s sort of good for matching up with big WRs, however, CBs are backpedaling and really big CBs can have problems with change of direction. In order to come out of a backpedal, you have to sink your hips to pivot. Taller CBs have farther to sink. I think it’s a good pick up, though. I think our DB coaches are gonna get him coached up.

          • superman_25_58

            Hey I agree that’s why the maybe was beside Robinsons name lol. Now that it’s official that we signed Sean Smith makes me a lil more happy inside.

    • toperspective

      I agree that the Welker signing hurts. I would have much preferred Welker for an extra 2.4M. Also would have kept him from Denver. Our other signings were solid even if they were overpaying like a sailor on shore leave. A 2-14 team has a lot of needs.

      • superman_25_58

        If you really compare the people we picked up in place of our players leaving us, their isn’t a significant difference in terms of production from the players we just acquired. You can say Avery but he had 12-14 drops last year with luck, if he played with Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi last year, than he would of been cut this year IMO.

    • Darkwolf1414

      Everybody gets down on Bowe for dropped passes but Welker drops more passes than Bowe does.

      • superman_25_58

        I’m not down on Bowe at all, I like that they re-signed their best WR

        • Darkwolf1414

          I know you, personally, are not down on Bowe but a lot of people are. I was just saying that Welker drops a lot of balls.

          • superman_25_58

            I agree, but when you have over 100 receptions a year an occasional drop doesn’t really matter IMO

          • Darkwolf1414

            While Bowe has dropped some passes he should have caught; I think he would have had less drops if he had an accurate QB. I don’t think that dropping a pass that was clearly behind you, yet you tried to catch anyway, should count against you as a drop. That’s giving maximum effort and if the QB can’t get you the ball, where it’s supposed to be thrown, then that’s on him.

          • superman_25_58

            I agree on Bowe for sure. I was going to be pissed if they let him go but don’t have to worry bout that for awhile now thank god lol.

  • David Fritch

    Avery will fit the west-coast offense perfectly for us. He is easily our #2 for now. I’m not a Smith hater I think his accuracy mixed with speedy receivers will work for us.

    I’m still just feeling it’s so unfair that this year is our time on-top of the draft. I mean we’re in-between Johnny Football and Luck/Griffin III…….WTH!

  • KC 19

    RICH ESIAN IS DONKEY FAN HE ACTS LIKE THEY JUST WON THE SUPER BOWL WELCER IS OK BUT DONKEYES DONT HAVE ANY DEFENSE REMEMBER DAN FOUTS AND AIR CORYEL LOTS OF OFFENSE BUT NO DEFENSE YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO STOP TEAMS HELL ARENAS SHUT HIM DOWN LAST YEAR I THINK THEY ARE GETTING FRIGHTEN BECAUSE CHIEFS ARE COMEING

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