Nov 17, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Duke Blue Devils quarterback Sean Renfree (19) looks to pass as Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets defensive end Anthony Williams (56) approaches during the first half at Bobby Dodd Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Josh D. Weiss-USA TODAY Sports

Will The Chiefs Draft A Quarterback?


Will the Chiefs draft a quarterback has been a question that everyone has been asking since before the halfway point of the 2012 season. At times it seemed a certainty, but now the recent trade for Alex Smith has complicated the notion to the point it seems doubtful. But let’s go over the draft, where the Chiefs pick, and see if taking a quarterback in that round makes sense for the team at this time.

1st Round, 1st pick:

Apologies to all the quarterbacks in this draft class, but no one seems to think you’re worth the first overall pick. Actually, you should be apologizing to me and all the other Chiefs fans in this world because you are not worthy of the number one pick. Out of all the years, the Chiefs would get stuck with this draft class. Oh well. If the Chiefs absolutely love Geno Smith, they could get him so that he could sit behind Alex Smith and learn. You know, kinda like Aaron Rodgers did in Green Bay, which just so happens to be where the Chiefs’ new GM, John Dorsey, came from. But with the recent release of right tackle Eric Winston, and the commitment the Chiefs have shown for Alex Smith which includes sacrificing their second-round pick, 34th overall, to get him, you can pretty much pencil in Luke Joeckel in this spot. And yes, feel free to argue this.

2nd Round, 34th pick:

Traded to San Francisco.

3rd Round, 63rd pick:

I just don’t see this happening. The Chiefs just spent a second-round pick on Alex Smith, so why would they use two straight picks at the top of second day rounds on quarterbacks? Especially since the Chiefs have more needs than quarterback. But I will say this, if the Chiefs are going to take a quarterback in this draft, I think the third-round is the time to do it. Alex Smith has only completed all 16 regular season games twice in his career. If Dorsey & Co. don’t want to bring in a veteran quarterback to back up Alex Smith, which they probably will, then going with the best available quarterback in the third to compete with Ricky Stanzi for the backup role is probably the best route to take, depending on if a quarterback happened to fall this far, and that you don’t think he would be available on the third day of the draft between rounds 4 and 7.

The rest of the rounds:

Speculation suggests that the Chiefs will be receiving a compensation pick for the loss of cornerback Brandon Carr sometime at the end of round three. Combine that with the rest of the rounds, and you have five more chances to take a quarterback. But remember, the Chiefs already have a fifth round quarterback, and his name is Ricky Stanzi … who has started 0 games … not even over Tyler Palko … or at the end of a 2-14 season. Yeah, I just don’t think spending a pick on a quarterback this year after the 3rd round would even be worth it. And yes, I know Tom Brady was a late round pick, and yes, I’m tired of people using the exception and thinking it’s a rule. Although, Matt Miller of Bleacher Report likes Duke quarterback, Sean Renfree, with a later round pick to the Chiefs. But if you have a late round pick compete with Stanzi over the backup role, you are setting yourself up for failure if Alex Smith does get hurt. If Stanzi is released, then a pick like Renfree, alongside a veteran free agent quarterback, makes more sense.

At the end of the day, I just don’t see the Chiefs taking a quarterback in this year’s draft. I see the Chiefs signing Alex Smith long-term, bringing in a veteran quarterback to serve in a backup role, and keeping Ricky Stanzi to compete for the second spot. The Chiefs have too many needs to spend multiple picks on a single position. What do you think, Chiefs fans? Will the Chiefs indeed take a rookie quarterback in April?

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  • http://twitter.com/johnwizzle12 john woodley

    I think they will with there 3rd round compensation pick or the 4th round pick; Laundry jones or the guy from ari.

  • tm1946

    With this being Reid’s first year, he will be allowed a lot of latitude with his first draft and putting together his first draft. No idea how it will play out but the old roster is about as bad as Carl’s last one and Reid will have to fix that.

    • Scott Mahurin

      We’ve changed our motto from “Show Me” to “In (the new guy) We Trust.”

  • freshmeat62

    I can see them taking a QB, if someone like Bray of Tenn. is still on the board at the 4th rd. or later.

    • Troy Utt

      Both Bray & Wilson could well still be available come 3rd round! I would take either one of them in a heartbeat! Sorry but I believe both of them have as much/more to offer than Geno… I have not been on the GS bandwagon, as I watched him play all to much this last year… Contrarary to the compiled hi-lite clips Geno has many a hole in his game! This is one time the talking heads (so-called draf experts) just may have it right…as there is not that much difference between QB1 & QB5-6 coming off the board…

      • freshmeat62

        No argument from me concerning Geno Smith. His stats came against powerhouses like Marshall, James Madison, Maryland, Iowa St, KU. I just don’t see what the fuss is about. His accuracy is pitiful. Even the passes he completes, so many times the receiver has to change his route down field to go get the ball, or they have to almost stop, as the ball is behind them. Every once in a while he hits a guy in stride, but he’s too inconsistent.

        • Troy Utt

          That has been my argument if you will… If you were to draft Geno, you had better grab the the WV receivers, some of which have been with GS since high school chasing down his errant, wide right “Lin Elliot” lobs! IMO we would be just as good or better off with Bray or Wilson as a project!

          • micah stephenson

            Wilson @ 1 cus i doubt he last till the 3rd rd??? And T.Bray over Geno??? Y do I even try?

          • KCMikeG

            Some of which? You don’t even know what you are talking about. ONE WR – Steadman Bailey is the ONLY WR he played with since HS. Geno has had 65%-70% completion over four years and that is “awful” accuracy? Why does EVERY expert have Geno ranked higher than ever other QB? Guess you just know more than EVERYONE else? By the way just a clue for you. Real Chief fans NEVER speak the kicker’s name to never be spoken let alone compare an incredibly accurate QB’s passes to his “kicks”.

          • Troy Utt

            I am perfectly aware of that… So if you would take the time to look it makes it appear all the worse! Geno has been “attempting” to pass to Bailey for 6-8 years, & the rest of the receiving corp. at WV for the last four! I’m not saying he won’t or can’t be a good QB… I’m saying he is not this superstar everyone is trying to make him out to be! I understand that Chiefs fans are starved for a franchise QB of their own, I know that all to well! But I also aknowledge that a draft class such as last year only comes around once a decade or so…why is every1 stuck on comparing them? As far as your draft experts are concerned… Why is it some had Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning? We can do that for every draft..they are not experts, they are reporters with an opinion! How did that work for you? We are all fans…but since you insist we speak of “REAL” fans, maybe we should also inject the words pompous, ass, & compensating!!! I know sometimes the truth hurts…

            n it comes to fans we all have our opinions…
            but you want to talk about “REAL”

          • micah stephenson

            If you aknowledge a QB class like that comes around every ten yrs, then you must also aknowledge that the other 9 yrs a Geno Smith is yo best option. Wat wud you do, wait another 9 yrs for a once every ten yr QB and hope you have the #1 overall pick that yr to draft him?

          • KCMikeG

            Fine you know more than all the draft experts because sometimes they have missed. My point was that everyone say Geno is the best QB when your opinion is Bray or Wilson would be just as good. I never said Geno would be a super star and I agree that comparing this QB class to last year is pointless.
            My comment about The “real fans” know we don’t speak the name of the kicker not to be named has nothing to do with your petty insults and speaking it isn’t an opinion. I didn’t make the rule I’m just smart enough to follow it.

          • Troy Utt

            Ya know…Been sitting in the same seats in Arrowhead (sec 122 row 25) for over 25 years, a die hard fan all my life! Guess I never got the memo for the “Super Secret Red Arrow Decoder Ring”! As for the top several QB’s in this years draft I feel there is just not one that is that much better than the others! Would I like the Chiefs to draft & develop a franchise QB? HELL YES! But I am also good with the current situation, as the brass obviously knows more than we do when it comes to evaluating the options / ceilings on both Alex & Geno
            WAR CHIEFS!

          • KCMikeG

            Excellent humorous response! Glad you got the official memo for the “Super Secret Red Arrow Decoder Ring Club”! Sorry, I thought everyone knew about the catastrophic kicker who’s name shall never be spoken. I’m a long time fan too down in 116. I got hooked as an 8 year old the year they won the Super Bowl and they just happened to be one of the teams w/in driving distance from home. Thank goodness we beat the Vikes or I would have had to wear purple all these years. I would not like looking like Barney on game day!!

            I do know what you are saying about the QB’s. I like Geno but I think EJ Manuel has more potential the more I watch his tape. Why is it that no one has done anything significant to cause the rankings to change yet they are bouncing all over the place. EJ now becomes the #2 when he was a 4th or 5th round pick just a few weeks ago. Nassib who was #2 or #3 now at #5 and since last year Barkley has been a potential #1 pick to undrafted to late rounder to a 1st round pick. Maybe the “experts” should be ranking these guys before the study them? Even one I respect says he ranks EJ #2 QB after watching his tape. Why didn’t he watch his tape before he ranked them?

            GO CHIEFS!

          • KCMikeG

            Excellent sense of humor! Welcome to the “Super Secret Red Arrow Decoder Ring Club”!! I thought everyone knew about not speaking that horrible kicker’s name. I’m an old school fan too down in section 116. I was hooked as an 8 year old the year they won the Super Bowl. That plus them being one of 4 or 5 teams within driving distance made the difference. Thanks goodness the Vikes didn’t beat us or I would have to have a closet full of purple. Looking like Barney on game day would not be inspirational. I agree that we are all armchair experts and will trust that Dorsey & Reid get it right. I agree that the gap has been closing on the QB rankings too. How is it when none of these guys have done anything significant the rankings are fluctuating like the stock market? I like EJ Manuel but now he is ranked #2 after being a late round pick. Nassib went from #2 to #5 and Barkley was a #1 pick last year to being not worth drafting to being picked in the top 10??

          • Troy Utt

            LOL!!! I had to laugh as I began reading your post! I believe you hit the nail on the head, in reference to the QB’s! What we want is no different, we may just view the available prospects a bit… I think that is what bugs me most is the drivel you hear from some of the talking heads and then wonder if they have ever bothered to actually watch a game, some game film,etc… or do they compile a kids entire future off a few seconds of hi-lite blips? Of course that is what coaches get paid for! I believe EJ is staying the course due to his being the closest & most consistent prospect for the “read opt” which of course is all the rage! I believe it was an Aaron Rodgers qt & I tend to agree that it will run it’s course & fade away as defenses will quickly key into it now. Will look you up at Arrowhead sometime…

        • Scott Mahurin

          Even during his losing streak his completion rate was 65%. You just like making shit up.

        • KCMikeG

          Which is it? Is Geno so inaccurate that his receivers must stop/alter their routes or is it that he throws nothing but short easy passes that his receivers catch in stride padding his stats with YAC? You can’t have it both ways.
          Geno has had 65%-70% completion over four years and that is “awful” accuracy? He has had a 120-163 QB rating improving in both areas every year. That’s what all the fuss is about.
          Oh and while you’re discounting his performance please remember his best year last year was against the Big 12 – the same teams RGIII put up his entire career of stats against which were not as good as Geno’s stats. Check out a really well written and researched analysis of Geno’s accuracy. http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1/10/3862228/geno-smith-a-tale-in-accuracy

          • micah stephenson

            Thats a nice write up on his accuracy. Where do people get that he is inacurate from? I guess Melon Head Kiper said he in inacurate and thats wat they base they opion on.

          • KCMikeG

            The only justifiable criticism, backed up on film, I have heard is that he needs work on his footwork which can effect his timing on his release. This can obviously effect his accuracy but at 65%-71% already I don’t know how much better he can get with his accuracy with this correction. Mayocks and others have said this and that it is an easy fix. His short range accuracy is 88% which is the majority of the throws he needs to make in the WC offense.

        • micah stephenson

          How is 70% completion percentage too inconsistent?

    • Michael Shaw

      It is so nice not to be the ONLY one that didn’t want him at #1!!!!!!

      • micah stephenson

        You are 1 of the few that dont want him. Even most of the writers on this website have said they wanted or wudnt mind Geno at 1. Dont feel bad I was 1 of the few that thought Cassel wud b ok 1 day, it must feel the same way being an A.Smith fan.

        • Michael Shaw

          Nope. Smith has actually been to the conference championship game as the starter. Cassel will NEVER be able to say that!!! I never wanted Matt because he took an 18-1 team to an 11-5 record. That isn’t an improvement worth him being traded for and GIVEN a $60+ million dollar contract. He should have played out his contract from NE and then we would have been able to get rid of him the next year. No matter how hard you try Micah, there is absolutely NO COMPARISON you can make that will show Matt is the same as Alex. Matt is a backup and has no business starting for any team! Alex is, and always has been, a proven starter.

          • Troy Utt

            Thx! My fingers were getting tired from defending against the “Geno” pick… I was starting to wonder if I was alone watching his games, while our QB starved counter-parts took in the hi-lite clips!

          • micah stephenson

            This website you are reading hav posted stories and stats on how similer they are. Im not say n Smith is not Better than Cassel but he is not MUCH better. we needed a QB much Better than Cassel not jus a lil better.

          • dominicscarlatti

            You had no idea about Cassel…enough said…!!

  • micah stephenson

    Hell knaw! At least not in the 1st rd! Its been 30 yrs sinse they drafted a 1st rd QB and it looks like it will b another 30 yrs before they do! Drafting a QB is just not what they do around here. I was hoping geting Dorsey and Ried meant things was going to b different. But looks like I was wrong. Its a tuff pill to swallow too. They emediatly trade the 34th pick and a 3rd for another Cassel type QB. If this is spose to be a weak QB class, why even waste a 3rd or 4th on a QB? Mayby after 2-3 yrs of Alex Smith they will realize they need to draft a guy. But I doubt it.

    • njjohn

      I suspect if this was last years draft class they would have taken a QB with the first pick, ya think?

      • micah stephenson

        No not the Chiefs. They wud hav traded the pick to the redskins and the reds wuda pick Luck or RG3. We prolly wuda got like Dontari Poe or somebody! Untill they prove me wrong I will never just all of a sudden think they gon draft they own dynamic rookie QB. It been 30 yrs and looks like you can tac on 3-4 more yrs!

        • Joe Myers

          I know man and it seems like it pisses no one off . Its like yea where all cool with never winning the Superbowl or even trying something new . Christ lets take another late round QB that never will amount to shit fuck this franchise !!!!!!!! This is torture in some country’s . But im still going to route for my chiefs for no dame reason other then im the biggest chiefs fan of all time

          • micah stephenson

            Yea I know you love the Chiefs as much as I do but we are in an abusive relationship. They tell you things are gon b different(we got Dorsey and Ried) and they not gon do that nomore(Cassel/A.Smith) and soon as you start to believe them, they slap you n the face again with A.Smith. Cmon Charlie Brown kick the ball(spend money on the Chiefs) I promise I wont pull it out this time(field a bad team and steal yo money) and as soon as you start to believe them and try to kick the ball Lucy pulls it out and we fall on our ASS! Chiefs got the best fans but it aint EASY I tell ya! Lol

          • Michael Shaw

            Ok idiots. The Chiefs HAVE tried drafting their own QB. Maybe not in Round 1 or 2, but they tried with Brokie Croyle and most recently with Ricki Stanzi. I am still convinced Stanzi has some skills with the right coach and opportunity. However, last year he simply did not look good in Brian Daboll’s new offensive scheme. Hopefully that can change this year with Andy coming to town. As for the Alex Smith comments………….how in the heck do you guys keep comparing him to Matt Cassel?????? Maybe I am wrong, but when did Cassel start for his team in College? When did Matt hang around as a starter through 7 OC changes and turn things around enough when he finally had a good and consistent OC, to take his team to the AFC Championship game (In case you forgot, Alex took the San Francisco 49ers to the NFC Championship game in 2011)???? The ONLY reason Alex lost his job is because someone younger and with a different look to his game came in when Alex got a concussion and razzeled and dazzled his way to a loss in the Super Bowl!! Alex wasn’t playing bad, he was doing damn good until he got hurt. I know I live in Southern California so i have to watch every damn SF, OAK, SD or East Coast teams game that comes on TV out here. Ok, maybe not the Dolts so much because they can NEVER sell out their damn stadium even when they are playing for division lead!!!!! Such a sad fan base!!

          • micah stephenson

            Are you calling me an idiot? You call draft Croyle and Stanzi trying? That makes YOU look like an idiot. We keep comparing him to Cassel cus that wat he is. he is slighty better than Cassel. We needed somebody waaaaay better than Cassel not somebldy slightly better. And lets keep it real and quit bullshitin around! The reason he lost his job is becuse Kopernick is a better QB plain and simple. If the 49s made it to the superbowl and will b contenders for yrs to come and they wanted no part of Alex, that means something to me but nothin to you at all? Whats gona happens Alex gets hurt again?

          • Michael Shaw

            You said they hadn’t drafted a QB. That was a lie and I was calling you on it, plain and simple. The team took as much of a chance drafting Ricki and Brodie as they will if they draft a guy at all, at ANY PICK, this year. Even your great Geno “your football god” Smith is a risky pick. I wouldn’t take him at #1, but if we still had our #34 available and he made it that far, I would draft him there. He isn’t a day one starter so there is NO REASON to take him #1.

          • micah stephenson

            http://arrowheadaddict.com/2013/03/02/the-two-sides-of-the-alex-smith-trade/
            http://arrowheadaddict.com/2013/02/27/alex-smith-will-be-a-kc-chief-fans-react/
            AA writers Patrick Allen, Nathan Bramwell, Lyle Graverson and Stacy Smith hav ALL said they would like or wudnt mind Geting Geno wit h the 1st pick. They also hav compared Smith to Cassel. When I wud do it im an idiot. Wen they wud do it you dont call them idiots. Y am I an Idiot for wanting Geno #1 but most the writers on AA are not?

          • Scott Mahurin

            The Chiefs are still looking to draft their very own RGOTF!!! What else would we do with the overall first pick in the draft?

          • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

            Yeah late round qb’s can’t possibly amount to shit. I mean forget Brady, Unitas, Brunnel, Blanda, Warner, Hasselbeck. These guys minus several super bowl rings and some hall of fame inductions never made shit out of themselves.

          • Joe Myers

            quit with the same lame ass mediocrity . Like we dont know that you can find a good QB in the late rounds but you idiot yes im insulting you . Look at the % of sb winning QB took in the late rounds as apose to the early rounds . So just shut up just shut up !!!

          • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

            It is a lower percentage but it happens. Who would you like them to take #1? News flash, Montana and Marino aren’t in the draft. Btw I’ve been called an idiot by other people without a clue before but if you want to be taken seriously you’ll have to lose the Kid N Play hat and the gay ass Digital Underground glasses. Yes I’m insulting you.

          • micah stephenson

            Those are some big ass do the Humty Hump ass glasses. Lol. That boy could look at a globe and see people waving at him. Lol. I can dig the hat tho.

          • dominicscarlatti

            An insult from an idiot is really a compliment in disguise…

          • dominicscarlatti

            Then please feel free to vote with your feet by no longer being a Chiefs fan and no longer coming here. Your choice, but either way, please refrain from using the f-bomb at this website.

          • Joe Myers

            “dont drop the f” man shut up fuck you how old where you when the chiefs won the sb . And we have been doing the same thing for years trying to rely on vet QB . oh and telling me to watch my mouth is going to force me to kurse more . Also I am American I do what ever I want to . I also just don’t go throwing around the f word I dont even like using it just cuuse all you guys have your lil close nit online boy club does not mean my opinion dont matter . I grew up watching the chiefs loose was in the streets homeless with my chiefs blanket in 12 • weather and they where loosing . Hear i am years later i have a son and a house and car and their still loosing and i want my son to be a chiefs fan. But kraigk dame it i dont want him to grow up watching them loose and dont want to die watching them loose . You better get real with it Brock is being groomed by Payton manning who do the chiefs have to the future . Excuse my language but you pissed me off you all can ban me idk . Its about our future Alex smith ain’t winning no sb

          • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

            Dude seriously you called me an idiot but you spell like a second grader. The words you were looking for were lose not loose, curse not kurse, because not cuuse, here not hear, don’t not dont,damn not dame. If that’s your education level so be it but you have no business calling anyone an idiot.

          • dominicscarlatti

            I was eight years old when the Chiefs won the SB. I grew up in KCK in the 60′s, and am in my fifth decade living and dying with the Chiefs. Your language is disgraceful, but no doubt you will continue to pollute this board with your foul-mouthed rants.

  • njjohn

    I definitely think they take a QB with their late third round pick, or even their early third if someone they really like happens to still be sitting there. They are being so active in FA it is going to allow them more latitude in what they do in the draft.
    Get rid of Stanzi, I also like the idea of the kid out of NC and they’ll probably need someone to back-up Smith. The kid out of Tenn is also a good choice. That’s why I’m glad they’re not using the number one on Geno Smith. There are too many QB’s that are just as likely to pan out as he is, IMHO.

    • Jim Harper

      I agree with you, and also like Tyler Bray.I am not convinced that Foles is a dead issue either. One thing for sure though. This awesome fun and the faithful are really pumped up about

  • micah stephenson

    Chiefs draft a QB? BAAAAH HAAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAA! LOL! LMAO! O cut it out man! Lol. You r so funny! Lol. Will the Chiefs draft a QB? Lol lol. Aww man. Lol. I needed that laugh!

    • njjohn

      They drafted one last year genius.

      • micah stephenson

        Cmon dont play dumb. You know wat he means(i think) mayby you dont. Let me explain. He means a QB that has a realistic chance to start and win playoff games. Not 3rd string 5th-7th rd practice squad i cant even get a snap on a 2-14 team with no QBs on it type QB. He means will the Chiefs draft a QB that can challenge A.Smith for his starting position. The anser is NO they wont. They never do. Why do u think it will b any different?

        • Michael Shaw

          So you are dumb enough to think they should draft a QB with their #1 pick overall because they need one so desperately that they shouldn’t be worried about whether they end up with the next FATmarcus Russell, Ryan Queaf or Todd Blackledge???? I mean do you want the team to be sabotaged for the next 4-5 years with a QB that might be worst than Cassel or Stanzi or Palko???? That is the risk they will take if they pick a QB at #1. Grant it they are taking a risk drafting ANYONE in this year’s draft with the #1 overall pick, but it would be worse so if they drafted a QB.

          • micah stephenson

            Anser to ? 1 is yes i am that dumb to think they shud take a QB #1. Anser to ? 2 is no i dont want them to b sabotaged. Now are you so dum that you think a team shud never take a QB #1 @ 1 becus he cud b a bust? But you ok with taking a LT or DT with the 1st pick even tho he cud b a bust too! Why buy a lottery ticket when u might lose? Becus you might win too but u will never win if you never play. Chiefs will never know if Geno is the man if they dont try.

          • Michael Shaw

            I think, no matter what team has the #1 pick, that you don’t use that pick for a player that isn’t a clear cut starter. If you are drafting a QB #1 overall then you need to find a guy that can start right away. I have never said Geno isn’t going to be good. He very well could be good, but he is NOT a day ONE starter for any team in this league. That is just a fact. When you draft a QB #1 overall you have to be damn sure that he can start the first game you play that year. If there was a way for us to move down and get him between picks 12-32, then I say hell yeah, draft the kid. That way he can sit behind Alex and learn for a year or so and then come in and be better than he would if he started right away. It is not so much a matter of him not being any good as it is a situation where, with the #1 overall pick, you should be picking a player that can and will come in and start at his position from DAY! If you do that as an organization you have a MUCH better chance of him NOT being a bust. Doesn’t that make more sense to you?

          • micah stephenson

            Just n case Todd McGay and Melon Head Kiper told you Geno aint a day 1 starter. Im tellin you he is. I havent seen not 1 single ligit mock with Geno rated or drafted outside the top ten

          • dominicscarlatti

            This from a sage who only a couple of months ago was Matt Cassel’s biggest advocate on this board…and for the record, I like Geno a lot as a prospect. However, I would not draft him with the #1 pick. If we were able to move down into the 5-10 range in the first round, then it might make a lot of sense.

          • micah stephenson

            The thing is I advance really fast by learning by my mistakes the 1st time and not making the same mistake twice. I learned my lesson with Cassel the 1st time. Im not willing to make the same mistake twice with Alex Smith.

          • dominicscarlatti

            Fair enough, Micah. Let’s hope you’re wrong about Alex Smith, or we’ll all feel badly about his acquisition. For the record, although I wouldn’t select Geno at #1, I wouldn’t be at all upset if the Chiefs did. From what I’ve seen, he’s a better prospect than some experts rate him as being, but hey, I’m just a fan with an opinion. I would agree, however, that he is head and shoulders above the other QB’s in this draft…

          • micah stephenson

            I already feel bad. I hope I wrong about Alex so i can one day feel good about the trade. I dont want to b right on this one!!! Cus if I am(Meaning Smith wasnt it and Geno was) It will b Toture…….Untill they finally draft a good QBOTF.

          • micah stephenson

            A couple months ago! I was done with Cassel after game 3. I hopped from the Cassel bandwagon over to the Geno bandwagon a looooong time ago.

          • micah stephenson

            So Geno is worth takin at 5 but not 1? You not making alot of sense. Its not a big difference in pay.

          • Michael Shaw

            I wouldn’t take him in the top ten personally. In my honest opinion I think if you are a team picking in the top 10 then you should be drafting a player to start immediately not someone that will sit for a couple of years. I don’t think Geno will start day one for anyone if that team is smart anyway. He is the type of player that needs a couple of years holding a clipboard like Aaron Rodgers did. Geno might be similar to Aaron, but not if he has to start right away.

          • Michael Shaw

            Micah, apparently you don’t read anything else I post. The ONLY guy I listen to with a moniker of respect is Mike Mayock. He is usually more right than McShithead or Mel Klap! I don’t like either of those guys, especially Mel because he NEVER has damn good thing to say about anything our Chiefs do. Even when we got Berry he acted as if he would be a bust because he was on our team!!

          • Scott Mahurin

            Yes. Yes, they should.

        • Michael Shaw

          Sorry not trying to be rude Micah. I just get so damn angry listening to the “draft a QB @ #1 overall no matter the cost” motif that I start seeing red and tend to get too personal!!

      • Scott Mahurin

        The Chiefs drafted a QB last year…when? Which one was it? Poe, Allen, Stephenson, Wylie, Menzie, Gray, Long, or Hemingway? We should immediately start developing him. Or did you mean the 5th round (135th selection) Stazi from two years ago? The 2006 third round selection Brokie Croyle? The 2006 7th round (!) selection James Kilian? In fact we have to go all the way back to 1992 to find ONE QB taken in the first TWO rounds. I think the REAL question is when are the Chiefs going to draft a quarterback who has a real chance to be the QBOTF.

      • micah stephenson

        Im no genius but im smart enough to know that Poe, Allen, Stephenson, Menzie, Wylie, Hemingway, Long, did not play QB. B 4 you try to b sarcastic, at least make sure you know what you are talkin bout. Lol

    • Chelsii.

      I think you’ve finally broken from reality.

      • micah stephenson

        No what it is, is that REALITY has slaped me in the face and slapped me HARD too, PIMPED SMACKED ME! I had to face REALITY and realize that the Chiefs drafting Geno or any other dynamic rookie QB with a Chance to b QBOTFis never going to happen. So I have to get use to it. Its hard. I dont want to accept it but I guess I haft to. :(

  • TAZMOSIS

    I have not heard about the status of Cassel. Will be still be a Chief? I would guess if he plays for 3 mii or less, maybe he stays. At least he knows the team and could be what he always was…….a back-up.

    • Jim Harper

      He will be released or traded. I think they are trying to gauge interest in him before releaseing him. Even if for only a late round pick. He is too expensive to keep as a backup. Andy will take a QB at some point though. Looks like Hasselbeck will be available who would make the perfect backup. I will say this much though. Being a Chiefs fan is fun again. They are making great moves and are full of surprises.

      • TAZMOSIS

        Cassel has already drained 85% of his 63 mil. contract. The smart move for both would be for Cassel to agree to about 2 mil for three yrs. and stay. He likes the city, and is familiar with the roster. Then, the Chiefs have their back-up for not a lot of money, and they can go about finding they players to fill out the other spots.

        • Michael Shaw

          Nice call TAZ. I would go for that!! BTW, the tazmanian devil rules!!!!!

          • TAZMOSIS

            Thanks,
            Never seen one, but I understand that they can be very nasty.

          • Michael Shaw

            LOL! I was referring to the guy in the pic I have attached!!

    • cyberry

      I’m sure they are waiting to make sure the Smith trade does go through..From what I understand (read)..he been told he has a chance to stay if he takes a pay-cut..Like down to one million..He has at this point refused..My guess is..at a low salary the Chiefs could trade him..Then he wouldn’t have a choice of his future..

  • Lyle Graversen

    If I had to guess, I’d say that they take one in the middle rounds, but let’s be honest, no one has a clue what this administration is going to do. Agree with their moves or not, they’ve kept us all on our toes so far this offseason.

  • cyberry

    Tajh Boyd is the quarterback that I would like to have anyway..But Tyler Bray would work..that’s just my own personal preference Everybody has their own fav”s.

    • Joe Myers

      no Yancey yes tahj boyd that’s who we need to go after next year . He will be in the hof and I hope as a chiefs

      • cyberry

        That’s the plan..So..if they do draft Landry Jones. We both know it’s to make sure Tajh has a backup.

  • t_tyrance

    Although I’m a big fan of Geno it doesn’t look like the chiefs will b drafting him. So nw im Hoping they get matt Scott out of Arizona. If you don’t know who he is go to youtube and check him out he played well against some big name schools. He might not be ready to play day one but I guess that’s why they got Alex smith right.

  • Joe Myers

    I think they are going to use the number 1 pick to draft Geno smith .

    • Scott Mahurin

      Until they invite him to a private workout…I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

    • Michael Shaw

      Dude, can I have some of that stuff you are drinking or smoking?? WOW!

  • Scott Mahurin

    There’s no quarterbacks in this year’s draft. This is the Chiefs! We’d rather let other teams break down a quarterback then throw draft picks and money at them. We can’t develop our own…we’d rather stick our collective heads in the sand and shiver with fear. Prove me wrong.

    • micah stephenson

      There are NO Good QBs??? Or is there Geno and then no other good QBs?

    • micah stephenson

      They Cant prove you wrong cus you are right. They are horrified of draftin QBOTF and developing him. Petrafied! Some scared lil pussycats!

  • e_racer

    You draft the best player. You don’t just draft “a quarterback”. Heck, you can get “a quarterback” off of any legion team. What you need to draft is the best player, and if that player is a quarterback, take him.

  • jimfromkcj

    I would hope not. I would like to see if there is any talent in Stanzi and the trick shooter before making any more decisions on QB’s. If they don’t have it why keep them on the roster. They sure aren’t going to make any contributions on special teams. The thing that disturbs me is that Dorsey seems to be taking the Pioli approach to FA and picking up a lot of cheap over the hill players hoping to hit the side of the barn and stick.

  • KCMikeG

    What are we going to do at QB? No one really has a clue as has been the case with most of the moves made by the new regime. Most say we won’t draft Geno so that leaves us with Alex Smith, a 3rd or 4th round rookie draft pick, Stanzi a 5th rounder & an UDRFA in Tanney. There is NO way we can go into the season like that. The FA market for QB’s offers nothing better than Cassel. Unless Reid can pull off another Kolb/Feeley trade…….I’ll let the rest of you do the math so I don’t get any more death threats.

    • Michael Shaw

      LOL!! Death threats?!! Point me in their direction and I will bring my tactical with me to take care of them!

      • KCMikeG

        Thanks for the support brother! What do you think about us keeping Cassel as our veteran backup on a 1-2 year restructured contract? Or do you think Reid can bamboozle the Cards into another foolish trade for their #2 pick?

        • Michael Shaw

          LOL! No on the AZ thing. As for Cassel, he would have to take a SERIOUS pay cut. I still think the guy is a good backup QB, much like Todd Collins was for us for so many years.

          • micah stephenson

            Trade a 2nd for a bum ass QB!?!? Only the Chiefs are dumb enough to keep do n that over and over again!

          • Michael Shaw

            Micah read the stats shown by Michael Gooding above in response to Jake’s post and then try to explain a valid reasoning for why you think Cassel is even close to Alex in anything other than career QBR. Take note of the win/loss records!!!!

          • micah stephenson

            Ok let me explain my valid reasoning for thinking Alex is not much better than Cassel. Mike chose to use they recent stats to make Alex look better. Now lets look at they carrer stats.
            Alex Smith Matt Cassel
            Passing yrds. 14,280 13,495
            TDs/ints 81/63. 82/57
            Age/games played. 28/80. 30/78
            Times they own team didnt want them and traded them 1 a pc so far but will b 2 a pc in a yr or so. Now add in the fact that the most TDs Alex trew in a season is 18(1.125 TDS a game)(Cassel threw 27 tds one yr) & he has a 7.5 yards perr pass attempt avg for his whole career(you know how much we loved Cassels short passing game) and I just dont see how im spose to b excited about Smith. He may b a LITTLE BIT better but we need a QB a lot better.

  • Michael Shaw

    I know as I write this that I am going to get blasted out of this site for even suggesting this, but does anyone think that Andy gives Vince Young a shot? I think the kid could be a decent backup that I would feel extremely comfortable with starting if Alex, god forbid, gets hurt. I think the guy needed time to grow up and adjust to the role he was thrust into when he got to the NFL. I think he still has the skills to be a hell of a backup and might still be good enough to start should anything go wrong. We could then draft someone to learn behind both VY and AS. VY could teach a rookie what NOT to do and AS could teach them the right way to be a teammate as well as how to be patient. Any takers??????

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      You could do worse for backups. What about Jason Campbell?

      • Michael Shaw

        I wouldn’t balk at that one either, but I am not sure Andy would take him.

      • KCMikeG

        Please tell me you guys aren’t serious about Campbell & Young. They are terrible to the point of making Cassel look great! Young didn’t even play last year and only 3 games the year before. Campbell’s best years aren’t even close to Cassel’s. If we could get Hasselbeck maybe but Campbell & Young – NO Thanks.

        • Jake

          Smiths best years are not as good as cassels either

          • KCMikeG

            Alex Smith was 19-5-1 in his last 25 games before the concussion last year and lead SF to the NFC Championship game. Cassel was 5-14 over the last two years with no playoff games let alone wins. AS had the higher yards passing, his completion % has been better than Cassel’s every year since he came to KC. Cassel is 59TD-44INT vs AS at 62TD-32INT over the last four years. Their career QB rating is nearly identical with AS being better than Cassel every year except for 2010. Cassel is 0-1 with NO TD’s & 3 INT’s & a 20.4 QB rating in the playoffs while AS is 1-1 with NO INT’s & 5 TD’s & a 101.1 QB rating.

          • Jake

            Lol, we old both go grab stats from specific time frames to make our arguments, truth is I PRAY YOU ARE RIGHT, just afraid you’re gonna be majorly disappointed. I hope he’s the second coming of Rich Gannon and we keep him this time. GO CHIEFS

          • Michael Shaw

            I don’t see how you could grab stats anywhere that could make Matt look better or even comparable to Alex.

          • KCMikeG

            Thanks. Seemed like the stats from the present/most recent performances of AS & MC seemed the most relevant to use in the comparison.

    • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

      Young’s attitude is the only thing that would turn me off but if he’s grown up giving him a shot at camp would be ok. I like Patrick’s idea of Campbell too. I think we’ve seen enough of Stanzi personally. He didn’t impress me in college and has been an insult to the word “bad” in a Chiefs uniform. I would like to see what Tanney has in preseason though. His college numbers are ridiculous, if it could translate to pro he could be awesome. Can’t hurt to test him.

  • Outback Chief

    The Chiefs could possibly trade there 1st rounder for a 1st round next year and some lower picks as well for either this year or next ,that would give them an extra shot at a better QB next year

  • Scott Mahurin

    Walter’s grades on the Alex Smith trade. Copied verbatim. Now tell me the rest of the NFL isn’t laughing at us.

    Chiefs acquire QB Alex Smith from 49ers for 2nd-round and conditional mid-rounder
    Jim Harbaugh is a genius. Alex Smith was considered to be a candidate for release when Harbaugh took over as head coach of the 49ers. However, Harbaugh claimed that he was a fan of Smith’s when the Utah product entered the league. Harbaugh then coached him up and turned him into a solid starter. It was obvious though that Smith would never lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl because of his limitations. That’s why Harbaugh made the obvious choice to go with Colin Kaepernick.

    Well, it was obvious to everyone except the Chiefs. This is an absolutely terrible trade for them. Smith, without Harbaugh, is a pedestrian signal-caller at best. He’ll regress without Harbaugh, just as Matt Cassel did when he lost Charlie Weis. Andy Reid has been good with quarterbacks, but he’s no Harbaugh.

    It’s true that Kansas City didn’t have many other options at quarterback, but Smith is just a short-term stop gap until Andy Reid acquires a legitimate franchise quarterback. With that in mind, why didn’t the Chiefs just pursue Matt Moore in free agency? He’s just as good as Smith and would have been much cheaper. More importantly, he wouldn’t have cost Kansas City a valuable second-round draft pick.

    Based on PFCentral’s report, I gave the Chiefs a C when it was speculated they gave up a third-rounder for Smith. But a second this year and a mid-rounder next year? What a joke. Again Harbaugh deserves all of the credit for duping a team into thinking that Smith is a solid starter. He’s not. Andy Reid must have lost his mind. The Chiefs will continue to struggle for a long time.

    Meanwhile, the 49ers now have 15 draft picks, including Nos. 31 and 34. They obviously can’t keep all 15 because that’s too many rookies. They’re obviously plotting some sort of trade. The two strongest possibilities are for Percy Harvin and Darrelle Revis. Both would fill the 49ers’ second- and third-greatest needs (see 49ers team needs here.) They may also want to move up for someone like Sheldon Richardson or Sharrif Floyd, should either fall into the bottom half of the top 10.

    Grade for Chiefs – F
    Grade for 49ers – A+

    • Jake

      Didn’t need Walters to tell me what I have been preaching since before the trade. What a joke

      • Michael Shaw

        So you are saying Walters is a joke or the trade for Alex is a joke?

    • KCMikeG

      That’s just silly talk. Miami resigned Moore and he wasn’t available. He has never been a starter for an entire season. In 2011, his longest run, he had more turnovers than TD’s. This is true for every year of his career except last year when he threw a whole 19 passes with one TD. He was a UDRFA vs AS being a 1st round pick. Comparing him to AS is laughable at best. In 2012 Smith was ranked third in the NFL in passer rating (104.1), led the league in completion percentage (70%), and had been 19–5–1 as a starter in his last 25 games until his concussion last year.

      It is fool’s logic to blame him for not winning the NFC Championship in 2011 when everyone knows it was their ST that cost them the game. He was 6-2-1 before his injury in 2010 How many play off games has Matt Moore won – no wait – how many has he played in? None.

      Giving Harbaugh all the credit for Smith’s resurgence requires igoring the success he had in the 2nd half of 2010 and his leadership in the 2011 offseason before he arrived. AS was on his way before JH had anything to do with him. I would give just as much credit to the improvements by AS to the OL and Vernon Davis getting his act together.

      “Andy Reid is good with QB’s, but he’s no Harbaugh”. Really? Who has Harbaugh “developed”? AS was already rebounding in 2010. Kaepernick was a super star at Nevada before JH had anything to do with him. And the “genius” left him on the bench signing AS for 3 years & $8M a year. Stanford was terrible under JH until Gearhart & Luck arrived. Luck was an elite QB from the get go and made him look good and Luck looked even better after Harbaugh left Stanford. Rich Gannon was a very good QB that we handed to him in chokeland. Look at the success experienced by all the other faider quarterbacks “coached up” by Harbaugh including Rick Mirer, Tee Martin, Marques Tuiasosopo, and Rob Johnson. So who did JH aka “genius” develop?
      Meanwhile recognized QB guru Reid played an important role in the development of Favre, he drafted and developed McNabb, developed Kolb & Feeley into a 2nd round picks, and got production out of Garcia when most said he was done.

      If Harbaugh is such a “genius” then why did he sign AS to a 3 year deal? Then he let him sit after his concussion while Kaepernick completed 1 of 5 passes for eight yards and no first downs in the red zone during the 49ers’ 34-31 defeat to the Baltimore Ravens. He took two sacks on red zone plays. Looks like CK cost them the SB. Funny how this doesn’t get near the press that AS “losing” the NFC playoff game does.

      Speaking of “genius”. Completion percentage in the red zone was one area where Alex Smith outperformed Kaepernick in 2012. Smith completed 70.6 percent of his passes (12 of 17) with eight TD’s, one interception and two sacks on 26 red zone action plays. Kaepernick completed 47.5 percent of his passes (19 of 40) with seven TD’s, one pick and four sacks on 68 action plays in that area. What a “genius”. AS succeeded in spite of JH allowing him to visit Miami while he chased after Peyton unsuccessfully. What happens if Kaepernick struggles or gets hurt next year? How smart will JH look then w/o AS and Tolzien as his starter? Definitely “genius”. The joke will be on JH and Reid will continue his run as a real genius with QB’s when AS has us in the AFC Championship game.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Matt Moore rather than Alex Smith? So much for Walt’s credibility…

  • Jake

    I believe they will with the late 3rd or early 4th pick. I can see the a TE and QB as two of these 3 picks. Early 3rd, late 3rd, early 4th. Where is Escobar kid suppose to be drafted?

  • Jim Harper

    Oh I am convinced that We will draft a QB in probably late 3rd or early 4th round, and unless they can trade down a little ways maybe to 6th or 7th, and get Ziggy Ansah and a 2nd round pick back. However he is rising quickly on draft boards and Draft King has him at #5., so I would then take him first. I believe he is the RG3 of this class.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Where would Ansah play in our base defense?

  • Matt Dickson

    QB Matt Scott looks like the real deal. The Chiefs could probably get him with their second pick in the 3rd round.

    Regardless, the Chiefs need to take a shot on a young developmental QB, Remember, it’s not just about finding a franchise starter. It’s also about leveraging the players development into future picks by way of a trade. Reid knows a thing or two about this.

  • Jake

    So Chiefs fans at least our leaders right now are fearless and attempting to give us a winner now! I have been sour about the Alex Smith trade, but that’s my only gripe. I love the Bowe, Albert, and Robinson deals and it’s exciting to root for a team that is working at it for a change. I understand Smith is our best hope to win NOW… Thanks to Hunt for giving us hope in these new leaders… Just please grab me a young developing option at QB, maybe the Scott kid from AZ? Go Chiefs

    • micah stephenson

      Yea so far I give Dorsey and Ried real sold C. They just doing an avg job for now. The A.Smith trade is not wat I wuda did. I would hav traded winston for a pick instead of cuting him. I would not have paid our punter almost 19 mill becuse u can find anybody to punt the ball. Any GM wuda resigned Bowe and tagged Albert accept piss-oli so Im not gon give them too much credit for that even tho I am happy we are at least doing wat the other 31 teams wud do instead of wat a 2-14 team wud do. Robinson was an ok move. Not a BIG O WOW move but ok. So yea GO Chiefs! I guess. lol

  • Jamie Denton

    I don’t think the Chiefs will draft a QB at all this year! I will admit I do not watch any college football, but listen to the draft specials on the sports networks and in my opinion I think the Dorsey/Reid plan is Alex 1 Veteran Backup 2 Stanzi 3. Why do I think this? Because the Chiefs scouts are telling them that there will be a better crop of QB’s coming up in near future drafts and they shouldn’t waste a pick on a QB this year when they can get a better QB a year or 2 from now! I have seen some odd things thus far going on with the Chiefs and believe they could pull off almost any kind of deal in a future draft they wanted to even if they pick low in the future IF THEY PLAN AHEAD NOW! Just my 2 cents!!!

  • JediChris816

    Two words….Matt Scott. Pay attention. Look at his combine, out of the three drills, 40, cone, and shuttle, Scott was 1st in two of three amongst all QB’s.

    He destroyed his Pro-Day last Thursday (3/7) and has gone from a projected 7th rd. pick, pre-combine, to a 3rd. rd. projection post-Pro Day.

    He’s been called the “Russell Wilson” of this QB draft class.

    If you want to know more, visit http://www.ChiefsTomahawkChop.blogspot.com.