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Scott Pioli Indicates Dwayne Bowe Wants Top Five Money


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Former Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was on SiriusXM NFL Radio yesterday and he helped to shed some light on the Dwayne Bowe cotract situation.

Pioli may not know the status of the negotiations now, as he is no longer the GM in KC, but he did try to negotiate a long-term deal with Bowe’s agent last year. Pioli and Bowe’s camp were not able to come to an agreement in 2012 and so the team placed the franchise tag on Bowe to prevent him from hitting free agency.

According to Pioli, Bowe’s agent has an inflated sense of Bowe’s worth.

“Dwayne is a good, productive player at a position of need,” Pioli said.  “He’s the best receiver on the Chiefs.  He’s one of the better receivers in the NFL. . . .  I don’t believe he’s as good as maybe his agent thinks – and when I say that I don’t say that disrespectfully – I just mean there was a difference in opinion.  I think he’s a top receiver that would deserve to be compensated in the top ten range, not the top five.”

I have to agree. I think Bowe has the talent to be a top five receiver but he has never had the right offensive situation to allow him to shine. More specifically, Bowe’s QBs since entering the league have been atrocious.

If Bowe gets the franchise tag again, he will be due a 20-percent raise over the $9.6 million he received last year. In short, the Chiefs will have to pay Bowe $11.4 million.

Bowe’s agent may have an inflated sense of his client’s worth but you have to look at this from the point of the Bowe camp. As we always see with top free agents, the market almost always overpays for top players. If Bowe knows he can probably get more in free agency, why should he give the Chiefs a discount? It makes sense that Bowe would only sign if the Chiefs were to offer what he and his agent believe is fair market value for his services.

There is no telling how much Bowe will get from another team in free agency but chances are, it will be a bit more than he might be worth.

What do you think, Addicts? Does it make more sense for the Chiefs to pay Bowe over $20 million over two years or should they just lock him up long-term, even if they overpay a little bit?

(h/t Pro Football Talk)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonfseibel Jason Seibel

    I think we should pay him. There are no other viable options out there!

    • berttheclock

      Jason, why was your excellent column taken off?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jasonfseibel Jason Seibel

        There was some confusion on my part in the publication schedule. Chalk it up to being the new guy and not fully understanding the system. :)

  • chiefridgy

    I hate situations like this. You end up paying the man and then he stops producing because he got paid.

    • berttheclock

      With the exception of one less TD, Vincent Jackson had better numbers with Tampa Bay after signing a huge contract than the year before with SD.

      • Michael Shaw

        Vincent Jackson is a better receiver than Bowe, IMO of course. Plus Vincent wanted out of San Diego a full two years before he actually left, so you cannot really compare his last two seasons with the Dolts.

        • KCMikeG

          So because he wanted out we should ignore his 2010 hold out that hurt his team and exclude his lack of performance in 2011? By the way his big payday must have really fired him up since he had a whole 12 more receptions on 32 more targets for 278 more yards and one LESS TD than his last year in SD. Definitely earned that $13M 1st year pay check out of the 5 year $55M contract – Not. I beg to differ on VJ being better than DB also. VJ after 8 years vs. Bowe’s 6 years has 410 more yards and 6 more TD’s. The comparison gets even more disturbing when you consider who was throwing to VJ vs. the parade of fools attempting to “throw” to Bowe.

          • dominicscarlatti

            Agree fully. Compare Cassel and Co. to Rivers. No comparison, IMHO.

    • chiefridgy

      Definitely think his holding out last year isn’t helping him. No one really looks too highly on holdouts…. I do think they need to pay him top 5 $.

  • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

    I love Bowe but until he can catch the ones that hit his hands he doesn’t need top five money. He makes the circus catches but drops way too many easy ones.

    • Daniel Mayfield

      Just like a lot of other WRs with better QBs. Yeah, he could do better but there’s no reason to criticize the best 1 we have. If he would hit the FA he would more then likely be getting a great deal for 1 or 2 yrs to show he’s still got the talent. Then he’d get the long term deal.

      • Michael Shaw

        I doubt he would sign a 2 year deal with anyone. He wants a FAT, long term deal and I am not sure he will get as much as he thinks in FA. Maybe I am wrong but……………..TOO MANY DROPS of EASY passes from shitty QB’s, which shows me, at least, that he is not there for the team, he is there for a paycheck.

        • toperspective

          Plus a lot of teams are dealing with serious cap issues

  • berttheclock

    The Tag has to be placed prior to 4 PM Monday does it not?
    However, completely off thread, Patrick, but, have you read the excellent column by Ann Killion af sfgate, this AM, concerning the departure of Alex Smith from the Niners? It should be picked up by AA and reprinted.

    • Ron White

      Thanks for the heads up Bert. Nice article especially when surrounded with the hate on AA.

  • dominicscarlatti

    Lock him up now, please…

  • Pessimisticchiefsfan

    Pay Albert and let bowe walk. Receivers are a dime a dozen.

    • berttheclock

      Bowe was our only receiver last season. Now, Baldwin could be considered a Tuppence a dozen, although two pence still might be too high for him.

    • Michael Shaw

      Not sure I like that idea. There are two problems with these guys. One has, apparent, chronic back problems and the other can’t catch an easy pass as easily as he does a cold. It may be time for the Bowe show to go away and time for the Chiefs to get Jennings or Wallace or pick a rookie WR they think can supplant Bowe AND Baldwin.

      • Troy Utt

        That was my argument from early on! As much as I like Albert, you can’t help but have concern about his.back… he missed several games last year, & passed his physical only after a long uninterupted rest! With Alex Smith now on board we need the targets, just as Old Chief Said! But… I am afraid even if they are able to work something out with Bowe we still have the means to grab another WR either in the draft or FA as our depth at the position does not bode well for stretching the field on a consitent basis in order to set up J Charles & the run! Yes we have plenty of cap space… but we should be tight up on it by the time we fill all the holes this year!

        • KCMikeG

          That’s why we should tag Albert to give us another year to see if he continues to get better or if the back issues continue. Pay Bowe period.

          • Troy Utt

            Maybe it’s me or the fact we have 1st overall pick… But man is seems like it is taking forever for the draft to get here! I believe the added press has made it seem that way! Bert made mention the FA tags had to be in by Monday pm? Has anyone heard anything further in regards to contracts with the others? Assuming we tag either Bowe or Albert, contract or revisions on Colquitt, Jackson. (As sounds like they are leaning towards keeping him at a reduced price possibly?)

          • KCMikeG

            Lots of chatter and rumor but nothing substantiated. I was excited about the visit by Chris Canty but haven’t heard anything?? Obviously what we do with Jackson & Dorsey & Pitoitua will affect that decision. New CBA rule allows FA conversations starting March 9 before the March 12th start of FA. The next week to 10 days will clarify our draft needs.

          • Troy Utt

            I’m not holding my breath on Canty’s visit or the possibilities thereof as I believe he has met with the Titans, Packers, & the Jag’s.(I believe Fl is home state) To be honest I am rather surprised we are entertaining keeping Jackson to the extent it appears we are! Granted him coming back would be at a reduced price, but his contract was ridiculous! I believe the brass will somehow find a way to get back up into the second to get one of these QB’s… someone to develope like a Tyler Bray or the likes??? Stranger things have happened…

      • Darkwolf1414

        Again, Wallace is far more inconsistent than Bowe is.

  • micah stephenson

    I wud want top 5 money too if my team keeps trotting out QBs like Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn, & Alex Smith. Bowes is prolly thinking the Chiefs aint gone do what it takes to win the Superbowl and wants to go to NE or Denver.

  • oldchiefsfan

    Pay him!!! Other than Jamaal he’s the only Offensive weapon we have! Since Alex Smith is coming why would we take away his best receiver? I’m not real happy about the 2nd round pick we gave up but we did it so let’s give AS the best set of weapons we can and try to win some games.

    • Troy Utt

      Old Chief, I have agreed with about all you have posted…I will add to your comment from yesterday and above that obviously the powers that be at 1 Arrowhead Drive knew more about what the going rate, or who all was vying for the servies of AS! I am not thrilled about having to give up that 2nd either… but it’s done! That being said what bothers me most with Bowe is his over-all lack of effort from one play to the next- almost “Randy Moss-esque”! Even with the inconsistent or nonexistent QB play I sometimes found myself more discouraged when a pass would hit him dead in the numbers and suddenly wind up an the ground!

      • Michael Shaw

        or bouncing off and ending up in the hands of a defender!

      • oldchiefsfan

        Troy I agree. He has dropped some passes he should have caught but he has made some catches many would have missed. All WRs miss passes and drop passes they should have caught. I just think we need to keep him as he is one of the better receivers in the league and he does give us a very viable weapon when one is needed. I’m sure if we asked our new QB if he wanted us to keep Bowe or let him go he would say we should keep him.I think we also need to look at his down field blocking abilities. How many big runs has Jamaal Charles had that had DBowe out in front throwing a key block that breaks him free for another 5 or 10 yards? He is one of the better blocking WRs in my opinion and that has to be considered as well.

        As far as the pick/picks we gave up there is nothing I can do about that and my bitching accomplishes nothing so when Alex Smith steps on that field you can bet I’ll be supporting him and hoping that he lights up every team we play. When it’s 3rd and long and we need a 1st down I’m not gonna be booing or yelling he sucks. I’ll be cheering for the QB of our team! You see I have been a fan of this team for so long I don’t know how to do anything else! I did however need to have my say when it was announced.

        • Troy Utt

          That was my point…He is our QB, so let’s fill-in the gaps and move on! Assuming we are able to sign Bowe, I am still feel we need another solid receiver as we just don’t have very good depth at the position! Of course that may help to sort itself out once the ball is delivered on a semi-consistent basis! As well hoping the Moeaki project returns healthy! When it comes to being a fan there is no part-time for me I have a son named KC, and a female dog named Chief… With no intention of getting one, I asked my wife about getting a tattoo… she did not mind & replied “What would you get?” I told her I wanted an arrowhead with KC in the middle! She replied, “Most men would get their wifes or childrens names!” Without thinking I proclaimed you have to understand…the Chiefs have been with me longer! It was about that time I was struck across the back of the head! GO CHIEFS

          • oldchiefsfan

            My family knows you don’t speak to me during a Chiefs game unless it is about the game. GO CHIEFS

          • KCMikeG

            Funny stuff! I have high hopes for Moeaki’s return. He got better as the year came to a close. Remember his rookie season when he broke Tony G’s rookie records. We will definitely need to add a quality TE having lost Boss.
            I would like us to replace Breaston in the draft or pick up a FA WR. I am cautiously optimistic about the group we have already. I think Bellamy, Newsome, Hemingway & a healthy Wylie have some great potential. A well coached Baldwin will make a huge difference.
            I have heard that Reid will use McCluster out of the backfield like he was used at Ole Miss – THANK YOU FINALLY! Reid will get the ball into Dex and Jamaal’s hands via the swing pass/screens. That excites me to think of those two in space with the ball.

        • KCMikeG

          Very well written and right on the mark. Believe me, I have had my frustrations with Bowe’s drops too but he has matured, he has never said a disparaging word about our deficient QB’s and his drops have decreased. Over the last 3 years 13 – 11 & only 6 in 2012. The bashing and dismissal he gets for them has developed a life of its own. Let me share a little reality.

          I found this very surprising, Bowe’s drop drop rate is 11/56% which means he catches nearly 90% of the catchable passes. To put that into perspective Fitz’s rate is 3.27%. So that means Bowe drops about 8 more balls over an entire season – or 1 pass every 2 games more than one of the best WR’s. Give him a better QB – I pray Alex is that – and we will see an even better Bowe than we have already.

          Interesting analysis on the link that I got the stats for 2008 – 2011 from on drops. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/02/three-years-of-drop-rate-wide-receivers/

  • Zack Daddy

    Top five? Not in my rankings:
    1. Calvin Johnson
    2. Larry Fitzgerald
    3. Andre Johnson
    4. Greg Jennings
    5. Steve Smith
    6. Wes Welker
    7. AJ Green
    8. Brandon Marshall

    Bowe MIGHT be Top Ten. Maybe. But barely at best…and not all of these WRs have been blessed with stud QBs.

    • Zack Daddy

      He should not be paid like a top five receiver. No way. Not with the other questions that surround him. Too much risk.

      Draft Geno Smith to play WR. :-)

    • toperspective

      Nicely done. Definitely not top 5.

    • micah stephenson

      It dont matter where you have him ranked. He will get paid top 5 money. Brandon Carr got paid top 5 money. Albert can make top 5 money. When you are really good and hit free agentcy you get paid top 5 money.

      • TAZMOSIS

        Gotta’ disagree. Carr got paid because he was signed by the Cowboys. Jones considers it a badge of honor to overpay. As for Bowe, yeah, he is a good receiver, not great. Does he have a great game now and then? Sure. If the dude had hands like Anquan Boldin, he would get paid. Bowe is barely top ten.

        • KCMikeG

          Bowe has been handicapped by our clown act at QB.

          • TAZMOSIS

            You are right, the QBs were atrocious. But Bowe, even with a good QB, is not top 5. He could be, but he just makes drops at the worst possible times. Somehow, he loses his concentration. Without those drops, he could very well be elite. So, Dwayne…..prove me wrong.

        • William Campbell

          What if the cowboys want Bowe?

          • TAZMOSIS

            One thing the Cowboys do not need is another receiver. My point is that Bowe is not top 5. He is a good receiver and could be great if he fixed that little “drop thing”.

    • KCMikeG

      Including Bowe! He should be 1st and foremost on the QB failure allowance which easily places him well into the top 10. Pay him and watch what he can become with a real QB. Many forget what a willing and able downfield blocker he is which directly benefits Charles. How many WR’s on the list can you say that about?

    • Darkwolf1414

      People’s big knock on Bowe is his drops. From your top 10 list, Calvin Johnson (10), Wes Welker (9), AJ Green (9) and Brandon Marshall (10) all had 4 or 5 more drops than Bowe did last season. I would have to agree with your top 3 (Even though Megatron was tied for 2nd for most drops last season) but the next 5 are debatable. I’m not saying you’re wrong. Just that it’s debatable when you look at the stats.

  • micah stephenson

    Yes the Chiefs shud pay him! He the only wr we got right now and when we finally get a good QB he will b a pro-bowler.

    • Michael Shaw

      Just because he is the best on the team right now does NOT make him worth more money than a Vincent Jackson, Wes Welker, Steve Smith, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Julio Jones, etc…. Bowe can maybe be that good, but he does tend to get a little too much younger Randy Moss in him.

      • micah stephenson

        Bowe has earned his money. Pay the man.

      • Danny W

        Wes Welker and Steve Smith aren’t the type of receivers Bowe is though. Wes will be taking about 7 million in free agency this year per year with a team. Julio Jones is a top five guy I would say though. He’s yet to have his rookie contract reworked.

      • micah stephenson

        When its time to resign AJ.Geen, Jones, T.Smith ect…they will push Bowes contract out of the top ten.

    • dominicscarlatti

      Alex Smith is a pretty accurate thrower on short to intermediate routes. He can hit a receiver in stride, and Bowe will be able to make big yardage on slants and routes with quick cuts. This was impossible with some of our recent QB’s (okay, all of them). I think you’re correct and Bowe will be signicantly more productive next season.

      • chiefridgy

        I think he goes beast mode

      • KCMikeG

        System and QB are perfect for Bowe.

  • ryanw

    Who’s cares what scott pioli says can we stop writing stories about him. We where so sick of seeing him and what he was doing to our franchise. But know I have to keep reading his name and his opinions we ran him out of time who cares what he thinks…F scott pioli!!!!!!

    • chiefridgy

      We are stuck with your bad punctuation and grammar.

      • Michael Shaw

        LOL! Now that’s funny right there, I don’t care you who are!!

        • Joe Myers

          no its not its Something a female would do bitch about punctuation and grammar online

          • chiefridgy

            You’re cool

          • Joe Myers

            hahahahaha I am . But for real
            we are online so lets not get our panties in a bunch over guy talk

          • chiefridgy

            Word

          • dominicscarlatti

            Guy talk? You’re functionally illiterate – it is not a question of gender.

      • ryanw

        sorry that my punctuation offends you professor

    • Danny W

      Hey Ryanw you do realize it’s Feb right? There are no games being played. This site post’s Chiefs new’s were there is any. Articles are going to range, you don’t have to read or comment on everyone your sounding ridiculous.

      • ryanw

        Seeing how this is the second time you’ve commented on what I say here’s some news for you I understand there needs to be something to keep us checking in all the time I get it. Dispite what you think I’m not stupid I do most of my blogging while at work on my phone so I don’t car about run on sentences or punctuations. But I love my team and find it hillarious that we finally got rid of pioli but now all we talk about is what he is saying about our team.its ironic and unfortunate cause lots of us pushed and pleaded to be rid of him only to chat about his comments on us

  • Daniel Mayfield

    IMO, Tag him again and set him up for a long term next yr if they don’t have the $ this year.

    • Danny W

      It’s not about the cap space, it’s about the principal and guaranteed money the Chiefs want to be on the hook for. It’s a big game in and of itself.

  • John Woodley

    Sign albert long term franchise bowe give him a year to see what he can do under andy reid’s offense

  • d-block

    I’d tag him. No way is he a top five receiver. At best he is a top ten.

    • Michael Shaw

      The bad part about tagging him……..if he wants VJ money, that would be what, $55.5 Million for 5 years and about 32 of that guaranteed, right. If we tag him he gets about 11.5 million for one year, so we would be paying him 400,000 more this year than we would if we signed him for the 55.5, which would go up if he has a Pro Bowl year, so I say either let him walk or sign him to the VJ money, but don’t tag him. It will cost WAY more next year.

      • berttheclock

        Hmmm? The tag has nothing to do with the $55.5 M. The only thing the Chiefs would be on the hook for with his second tag is to pay him ten per cent more than he earned last year. As he earned $9,515,000, the additional $951,500 would bring ihis 2013 salary to $10,466,500. He can not be tagged a third time. However, if they are going to tag him, time will run out on Monday for any tag.

        • Danny W

          Yup your only on the tag for a year that said he would be a player worth tagging. We saw how bad we where with out him.

        • KCMikeG

          Tag is average of top 5 at the position or 10% more than the previous year – which ever is the greater. Tag is $11.5M – pay him and add another talented WR to replace Breaston.

          • berttheclock

            Actually, I was incorrect about that second year tag. It is 120 percent of the first year tag, so, Bowe would be tagged for $11,418,000. The new CBA changed the tag rules. The new rule for the first tag is to take the top salaries at a position for the previous 5 years. As Johnson’s huge numbers were not factored into Bowe’s first tag, the second year increase would only be adjusted on that 120 per cent. Funny that under previous rules, a WR tag for 2011 was greater than the one of 2012. But, with the huge amounts paid to Johnson, look for a big increase for the wideouts being tagged first this year. In a few more years, this really may get out of hand. I was, also, incorrect about the new rules of stopping tags for more than 2 years. This is the area which affected Brees and it is really going to become murky.

  • Jim Harper

    I think I could care less what Pioli says. I blame him for our current situation. The man almost single handedly ruined our franchise. First bringing in Cassel to that inflated contract and Vrable at the end of his career. Now he says Bowe isn’t worth it. Based on that logic then why do we have Cassel?

    • Michael Shaw

      Because he put ALL of his eggs in one basket and had NO way out of it at the time. I think if he could go back in time he would have NOT offered the $60 Million contract until Matt played a full year for him. Then he could have gotten another QB the next year in the draft.

    • Danny W

      This comment is spot on Jimbo

    • Chief Hokie

      Amen to that. I am so tired of hearing about pioli.

  • Priest4Prez

    First off, everytime I see the name Scott Pioli on any article….I cringe and dry heave a little. Secondly, I say we give hime a long term deal because now we definetley NEED him. We didn’t upgrade too much at QB with Alex so we’ll need him to catch the 15 yard curl routes that he’ll no doubt be put on for the rest of his career to compensate for lack of arm strength…..rabble rabble rabble man I’m grouchy today y’all. Anyway….sign him, we need him; big strong body, good hands with crummy Qb’s, smart route runner, end zone threat.

    • Michael Shaw

      ok hands would be better. remember he drops too many easy catches only to thrill us with the “how the hell did he catch that?”-type of catches, but i agree to an extent. Either sign him long term or let him go period.

      • Darkwolf1414

        A lot of people don’t realize how many drops other “top” WRs have every year. Megatron was tied for 2nd most drops last season. Wes Welker is toward the top of the list for number of drops year in and year out but people are clamoring for him. A lot of people on here have said we should let Bowe go and get Mike Wallace. That kid is more inconsistent than Bowe has ever been. He just happens to be a burner. Looking at the stats, on drops, I would put Bowe in the good hands category. He’s no Larry Fitzgerald but he has good hands.

    • Killerdoctor27

      I agree with everthing you said!

  • ArrowFan

    I blame Detroit for this and all that stupid $$$ they gave Megtron, not to mention Miami and the bloated contract they gave Jackson, These contracts ond others like it have inflated the WR pay so now Bowe thinks he should get something similar. I like the guy and think we need him but I also think that we could replace him if we had a high second round pick.

    • KCMikeG

      Jackson being over paid in Tampa Bay. You may be thinking of the Fins over paying Marshall.

  • jimfromkcj

    The problem I have is when you start paying a player more than he is worth you create problems with the other players. If I were another WR on the Chiefs and have been open numerous times and the QB zeros in on Bowe and I never get the ball I would be pissed. And if you watch the games, there is almost always someone who is more open than Bowe, but the QB seems to be unable to make more than his first progression and his dump off. So why wouldn’t giving him more than he is worth likely to snow ball and create more trouble than it is worth. Same for Albert. He isn’t an overall top 5 LT. More like the 15th or 18th.

    • micah stephenson

      If a wr besides bowe actually got open. I think the whole stadium wud b suprised.

  • sidibeke

    Pioli sure went from Mr. Secrecy to Mr. Can’t Shut Up pretty quickly.

    • Danny W

      Your right that’s hilarious. It was all cloak and dagger now he’s Mr insider all of the sudden.

    • Zack Daddy

      Never been a truer statement!

    • Michael Shaw

      LOL!! Now THAT has to be the statement of the week!!!

    • gjrchief

      Well what do you expect. He was paid to run a million dollar buisness, now he is paid to run his mouth. Naturally one involves secrets, and one involves spilling them.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    Pioli would know. I’d offer Bowe a Vincent Jackson deal and sleep comfortably the same night. If he’s unwilling to take the deal, I’d move on.

    • Mike Ross

      I’ve read somewhere that he was offerd basically the same exact deal that VJ recieved and he turned it down. If he thinks he’s better than VJ he is over valuing himself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kyle.mangione Kyle Mangione

    I would do 4 year $40 million with production bonus of 1 million so he would get $250,000 dollars bonus every year for four years that’s a solid deal ! The bonus would activate once he hit 1,000 yards for the season !

    • Michael Shaw

      I like that idea, but I think he is looking in the Vincent Jackson range, which I don’t think he is worth.

  • Danny W

    Bowe is top ten this is evident. The homer in me really loves him. I think he can be replaced but not by much cheaper than him. Mike Wallace is going to want some bread. As much as Reid values throwing the football a deal will get done with a big name wideout who it will be is uncertain. I’d rather keep Bowe but time will tell.
    Here’s a list of who I think is better.
    Calvin Johnson
    Julio Jones
    AJ Green
    Larry Fitz
    Hakeem Nicks
    For the record with a good quarterback I think Bowe is top five.

    • Darkwolf1414

      I agree. I think Wallace is going to want the same kind of money that Bowe wants. Bowe has had his drops but Wallace is even more inconsistent. Talking about receivers who drop passes; a lot of people regard Wes Welker as a top notch pass catcher but truth is, he’s had more drops in the last 3 seasons than any other receiver. A lot of Chiefs fans think Bowe is the only WR who drops passes. I have seen Fitz and Megatron drop easy passes. In fact, Calvin Johnson was tied for 2nd for most drops last season.

  • Don417

    Just pay the man. I’m so sick of seeing this team develop players that just go to better teams because Hunt is such a penny-pinching tightwad.

    • Michael Shaw

      Penny-pinching tightwad? Ok so you think paying a guy top 5 money even though he has NOT put up top 5 numbers. He has put up decent numbers with shitty QB’s yes, but he does not deserve top 5 money until he is in the top 5 in catches, yards and TD’s. The ONLY year he had great TD numbers was 2010 if I am remembering correctly. It isn’t being cheap, it is wanting to get the best value for what the player has show you so far.

    • Kyle ferguson

      Did you think he was penny pinching when he brought in Andy?

  • Brody Hall

    Im reading all these post who say to pay him. The funny thing is these are the same people who are mad that we over paid for alex smith. U people do realize that it doesnt matter what he “could” be. He could be the best wr in the nfl but the fact is he does not play like one at all. Lots of dropped passes. Holding out because his agent and him think that bowe walks on water when he has done nothing special. Sad thing is i would said bowe wont get that kind of money anywhere but that what I said about the niners and alex smith and of cours looked at what happened. Fact is i want this to be over as much as everyone else but even if we sign bowe i still feel we need to go get one of the fa wide recivers like wallace, gennings walker etc etc… Which means bowe can be replaced this season!

    Also dont forget that the draft has their fair share of good wr talent as well people…

    • Darkwolf1414

      You do realize that 2 of the FA receivers you would like to sign (Wallace & Welker) drop more passes than Bowe does, don’t you? How can you complain about Bowe dropping passes when you want to replace him with guys who drop more passes? Seems to me that you’ve listened to everyone saying that Bowe drops too many passes and assumed they were right. Or your perception is that he drops too many passes. Either way, the stats don’t bear that out.

  • Mike Ross

    When it comes down to it why would you pay a reciever top 5 $$$ when that reciever cannot get seperation. I like Bowe he is a good WR… but the guy is NEVER wide open. I would rather throw to an open reciever and risk an incompletion than to a guy who is almost always covered and risk an interception. Let him walk and sign a guy who can actually get open….without pushing off.

    • Kyle ferguson

      He got more open than any one else on the team last season, plus he’ll have a coach that isn’t going to put in a middle school play book, trust me Andy will coach him up

    • Darkwolf1414

      You do realize that in the NFL, on a lot of patterns, being open is a matter of 6 to 12 inches, right? The only time a receiver is WIDE open is because of a blown coverage or the defense is playing a soft zone.

  • oldchiefsfan

    Something that just came to mind…… Why do we care what Scott Pioli thinks Dwayne Bowe is worth? How well did his opinions work out for us in the past?

    • Kyle ferguson

      It’s what Scott said his agent thinks he’s worth, Scott doesn’t think he is top 5 guy that’s why he was tagged last season

      • KCMikeG

        That’s why he is on the radio instead of being a GM.

  • Michael Shaw

    I am reading all these posts and a thought has occurred to me, I know it’s a shocker I have enough brain power to think. Last year we had two free agents that wanted top dollar in Bowe and Carr. Everyone said if we paid Carr what HE wanted we were overpaying and I happen to think that same statement applies to Bowe. I am not sure he is worth Vincent Jackson money, but if they offer that to him and he balks at it, then I say let him go to Pittsburgh, Miami or Denver for all i care. Who needs him when we can either draft someone or sign Jennings or Wallace or if NE lets him hit FA, we could even look at Wes!!! (Just kidding as we have 2 of those type of players already on the team!!)

    • berttheclock

      Kind of interesting that Carr has just agreed to have his salary lowered.

  • boweeeegooooo

    let bowe go, why just tag him for 1 year? pointless, good FA class, go get one if you dont want to pay him the big bucks
    and he doesnt deserve it. hes been the only target on the team for years, this negates the lousy qb argument

    • Kyle ferguson

      How does the fact he has been the most productive wr on the team negate the lousy qb argument, the numbers the qbs have put up more than backs the argument up, lousy is the nice way of putting it

  • Kyle ferguson

    Pay him, if he hits the market he is a top 5 free agent, you can’t trade for a qb and then let his weapons walk.

  • Nick

    I find it ironic that Scott Pioli is now trying to be a media darling when he was such a prick here in KC. Also find it odd that he has said more about the Chiefs in a month since being fired than he said during his entire tenure.