Jan 14, 2013; Kansas City, MO, USA; Kansas City Chiefs general manager John Dorsey (left), chairman Clark Hunt (middle) and coach Andy Reid pose for photos during the press conference at the University of Kansas Hospital Training Complex. Mandatory Credit: Denny Medley-USA TODAY Sports

Chiefs' Dorsey & Reid Are In A Lose-Lose Situation...Unless They Win


Kansas City Chiefs GM John Dorsey and head coach Andy Reid preside over a Chiefs Kingdom that is as unstable and divided as perhaps any other time in the last two decades. Matters became even more complicated yesterday when the news broke that the team has decided to hitch its wagon to 49ers QB Alex Smith, for the foreseeable future.

The 2012 season was all about change, as far as Chiefs fans were concerned. The KC faithful wanted a new QB, a new coach and a new GM.

And they got them.

Yet, among a fan base that protested so aggressively for change in 2012, going so far as to fly banners over Arrowhead Stadium before games, no amount of change seems to be good enough.

As editor of this site, I interact with dozens of Chiefs fans on a daily basis, whether it be in the comments of our posts, on our Facebook page or through our Twitter account. In the recent weeks since the arrival of  Dorsey and Reid, I’ve noticed that Chiefs fans seem to still be feeling a great deal of discontent.

Just weeks ago, all KC fans seemed to want was for former GM Scott Pioli to be fired and for incumbent starting QB Matt Cassel to be sent out of town. The once patient and supportive fans, many of whom proudly wrote or stated the words “in Pioli we trust” in 2009 and 2010, turned on the new regime in 2012 when it became clear that their trust was misguided.

Unlike in 2009, when long-time GM Carl Peterson and bumbling head coach Herm Edwards were ousted from Kansas City, Chiefs fans haven’t been as quick to cozy up to Dorsey and Reid as they were to Pioli and Haley. Peterson had been a fixture in Kansas City for so long that any replacement was likely to be given a hero’s welcome. So when Scott Pioli came riding into town, his Super Bowl rings glistening in the sunlight, the smooth-talking GM from New England was able to interject a fair amount of propaganda into the minds of his new subjects.

Pioli quickly injected buzzwords and slogans into the Chiefs blogosphere and radio airwaves by repeating his mantras over and over and by making a few well-position contacts in the media. By 2012, you would have been hard-pressed to find a fan that hadn’t heard the words “right 53″ and “process” and “substance over sizzle” from either Pioli himself or their fellow fans.

I even wrote a column about the seemingly blind Scott Pioli following in May of 2011.

It was called “In Pioli We Trust: A Ridiculous Notion.”

Look, there is nothing wrong with trust. There is nothing wrong with initially deferring to the expertise of the guys getting paid to make the decisions. There is nothing wrong with being passionate and hoping that every move your GM makes is the right one. Fan is short for fanatic. This website is called Arrowhead ADDICT. We get it.

But to go around muttering “In Pioli We Trust” after every move the man makes is not only short sighted but it closes one off to any sort of useful critical thinking. Attacking another fan and questioning their devotion to their favorite team because they dared question the organization’s moves is the same kind of childish bullying you’d expect to find at your local junior high.

Chiefs Nation has come a long way since 2011. The pendulum has swung so far in the other direct that it appears nothing will satisfy Chiefs fans.

In fact, the fans seem so split on what they think the new regime should do to fix the 2014 mess Pioli and last year’s head coach Romeo Crennel left behind, that if left in the hands of the masses, the QB for the 2013 Kansas City Chiefs would be:

Nobody.

We like to look at things from every angle on Arrowhead Addict. It’s been a tradition on this site since the beginning to explore different viewpoints and scenarios. This offseason, however, while some of our suggested scenarios are more popular than others, there doesn’t seem to be a single solution that most fans agree on.

To illustrate this, I took to Twitter to ask the opinions of fans on a number of Chiefs-related topics. Keep in mind that I did this just hours before the Alex Smith trade was announced.

The Chiefs should draft Geno Smith #1.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should the Chiefs trade for Alex Smith? As long as they don’t give up a pick higher than a 3rd?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even for a third, it was clear that a fair portion of the folks I talked to were not sold on Alex Smith. So when the news broke that Smith had been acquired for what is believed to be a second-round selection and 2013 and what could turn into a second-round selection in 2014, there was a fair amount of outrage.

I then asked folks if they trusted Andy Reid and John Dorsey to make the right decision. Here are some of the responses I received.

Do you trust John Dorsey and Andy Reid to make the right decision, no matter what they decide?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you trust Dorsey and Reid as much as you trusted Pioli and Haley when they arrived?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who do you want to be the starting QB of the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The group seemed to slightly favor Geno Smith, which is understandable. Chiefs fans have seen just about every scenario, save drafting a first round QB, fail miserably in Kansas City. They’ve seen a parade of former San Francisco QBs brought in, only to fail. They’ve seen a high-profile trade for Matt Cassel fail. Drafting a QB in the first round, just to draft a QB in the first round, isn’t guaranteed to pay off. While Chiefs fans are smart enough to realize that, much like when Pioli replaced Carl Peterson, I think things have been so bad that anything different automatically becomes more appealing.

As the comments above showed, nobody is running around saying “in Dorsey I trust.” The fans want to believe the men running their favorite team are going to do the right but years of failure seems to have tempered expectations.

When Scott Pioli traded a second-round selection for Matt Cassel and Mike “intangibles” Vrabel, the reaction in KC was mostly positive. There were murmurs of the “draft your own QB”  argument but for the most part, as I recall anyway, fans were excited about the possibility of acquiring a franchise QB in Cassel.

Dorsey and Reid aren’t like to be given the same level of fan patience that their predecessors enjoyed. Pioli and Cassel were able to turn in a 2-14 season in 2009 and they emerge relatively unscathed. I think this was, in large part, due to Pioli’s propaganda and the misguided trust of a frustrated fan base. Chiefs fans were sold a bill of goods by Pioli that they had to be patient while he “rebuilt” their team. They were asked to allow the “process” to run its course.

Well, when the process was complete, Pioli left the Chiefs exactly how he found them.

2-14.

Just as Pioli and co. received their fair share of unearned trust, Reid and Dorsey are being served up a cold dish of apprehension from Chiefs fans who have eaten at this restaurant before.

I don’t envy the new regime. They were facing a lose/lose situation.

If they drafted a QB No. 1 and the QB busted, they would have look like fools for reaching for the position when all the experts (well most of them) the 2013 QB class just wasn’t very good.

If they pass on Geno Smith, which it is almost a certainty that they will, and he is drafted by the Raiders a couple picks later and Smith develops into a star, while the KC brass goes with an Alex Smith, they will be driven out of town faster than you can say “Romeo Crennel”

If they had tried to build their team around a second-round QB from a weak QB draft class and fail, they’ll be equally panned as if they had reached for the position at No. 1.

We don’t know exactly how the Alex Smith trade will work out in KC. We don’t know which team will draft Geno Smith and Matt Barkley and we don’t know what kind of careers they and the other QBs in this draft class, will have.

Chiefs fans were so divided on what they thought  Reid and Dorsey should do, there was going to be a sizable portion of them that were upset no matter what happened at the QB position.

I’ve seen plenty of angry tweets and comments calling the new regime a bunch of fools. I’ve also received messages from fans stating their support and trust of the new regime.

Now that Reid and Dorsey’s vision for the Chiefs is beginning to take shape, it is important for fans to take a lesson from the Scott Pioli era. Now isn’t the time  to throw Dorsey and Reid to the wolves based on the failures of the men that have come before them.

On the other hand, Chiefs fans have no choice but to demand that Dorsey and Reid earn the same level of trust that Pioli was given merely for showing up four years ago. Trust earned, not simply for doing something new, like selecting a QB in the first round, or through propaganda-laced catch phrases and buzzwords. Trust earned, not simply because they aren’t the Scott Pioli regime and because Alex Smith isn’t Matt Cassel.

They’ll have to earn their trust the old-fashioned way: by winning.

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  • John Woodley

    I was onboard with everything until ! We gave up so much! Just cause we didn’t have any jello doesn’t mean you give up your jello for the next 2yrs for a taste of there’s!I hope ky came with this trade !!!

    • toperspective

      Jello?

  • steve james

    Just win baby?

  • http://twitter.com/biglump007 Leon Ritz

    Great read Sir, I for one I’m not in the camp that is willing to throw Dorsey and Reid to the wolves. I learned a long time ago when you make a snap judgement before you see the full picture you end up wrong more often than not. Am I an Alex Smith fan, not especially, but I’m also not going to call someone hot garbage who has played as well as Smith has the last couple years. People can pine all they want for Geno Smith, and I think most people that hate the Alex Smith deal are those people who wanted Geno, but simple fact is with Geno you may not get a QB as good as Cassel. He may end up being the next Warren Moon who knows. What I do know is I’m not going to bitch and cry about getting Alex Smith until I see how it plays out on the field, I’m also not going to say how great of a trade it was till I see the results. I like the trade in a sense that I believe Alex should fit Reid’s system of short accurate passes and getting the ball into WR hands in stride so they can do their job, I honestly think with Alex accuracy he should excel in that offense but we won’t know till we see it on the field. I think we gave to much being a second round pick but then again if it works out well I bet the same people bitching now will be buying his jersey

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Thanks!

    • toperspective

      I think a lot of the complaints about the Smith deal revolve around the compensation given. I don’t mind getting Smith, I just thought the price was too high. Particularly when the report came out that 4 draft picks were given. The fans have a right to be wary re Reid and Dorsey…they haven’t accomplished anything yet and Reid left Phil in a mess.

      • http://twitter.com/biglump007 Leon Ritz

        I don’t like that we gave a second round pick either, I thought it would take a third. Thing is if you read most of the comments they are about how much we gave up, some are, but its mostly about Alex being Cassel 2.0 which he is not. I think we gave up to much but I also think Alex can be very good in Reid’s system and the Chiefs can be very successful with him. Is he Aaron Rodgers, no, but he can win in KC I think.

        • toperspective

          I was also thinking third. Since it’s at the top of the round it’s very valuable. However, now it might turn out to be two second round picks. I think they seriously overpaid. This team has so many needs….particularly if Bowe and BA are not re-signed.

    • Ron White

      Bingo…..We have a winner….

    • micah stephenson

      You seen Smiths ceiling. Its the same as Matt Cassels. Nethier will win a superbowl.

  • chiefridgy

    Bravo! Great article. I say what choice do we have but to trust? Aside from supporting our Chiefs there is nothing else we can do. The Chiefs will be good again! We are the Chiefs Nation and the BEST fans! Lets act like it. GO CHIEFS!!!!!

    • calciomoti

      What choice? It’s simple, stop watching football. I hope the chiefs will be good again, but this shit just sounds like regurgitated mediocrcy all but they oldest of chiefs have had to live with their whole lives. I will never cheer for another team, but i may stop watching…

      • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

        You know you’ll watch. At least at first. ;)

        • calciomoti

          Okay, I’ll watch, but if things go bad, I’m concentrating on old man flag football.

      • chiefridgy

        Exactly……and I don’t plan to stop watching football.

  • Bizoza

    There are many loud voices pressing the opinion that this is a horrible move, and many who think this is the best move that could be made. I fit into the middle, I like the idea of having Alex Smith on the team, but think that a second rounder was too high of a pick. I had the belief that the team should have gotten him for no higher than a 3rd round pick. That being said, they did go out and get a QB in an aggressive manner and I can’t fault them for that.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Agreed. What is important now is that they turn the franchise around and win some games. If they do that, everyone will be happy.

      • toperspective

        I’d be happier if they win some games but what I really want to be a Superbowl contender every year like the good franchises. I knew we would never be with Cassel at the helm. Even during his good year I had no confidence that he’d be able to engineer a fourth quarter comeback or complete that 3rd and 15 pass on the final drive. 8-8 won’t do it for me unless things are really moving in the right direction.

      • Joe Myers

        I expect a playoff win nothing less .

        • Priest4Prez

          I concur

  • Arrowhead Magic

    I’m not ready to throw dorsey and reid to wolves yet, but I will only trust them once we start winning. I still don’t approve of the Alex Smith trade but he is now a Chief and such I will root for him and hope he takes us to the Superbowl.

    • Stacy D. Smith

      Yep. He’s our new QB. May as well get behind him. First order of business is to bring his #1 receiver back. Then we need to get him a good #2. Hopefully in April.

      • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

        I still have faith in Baldwin. Sometimes receivers take some time to come along. Look at Crabtree.

        • Stacy D. Smith

          That’s a bad example, big guy. Crabtree had at least 700 yards and 4 TD’s in each of the two seasons preceding his breakout performance in 2012.

          I’m not ready to give up on Baldwin yet either, but I also don’t think they can afford to wait on him. Good competition tends to bring the best out of players.

          • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

            Yeah but the Chiefs’ offensive situation, the two years that Baldwin has been on the team, has been a complete disaster. There was also no Dwayne Bowe on the 49ers eating up all the receptions.

            Crabtree was a raw talent that took some time to truly blossom. After what we heard about Baldwin in camp last year, I think the talent is there. He just needs some stability on the offensive side of the ball. Dude has played with Cassel, Palko, Orton, Cassel and Quinn in two years. No wonder he hasn’t caught on yet.

          • dominicscarlatti

            Let’s also not forget that Alex Smith had 5 OC’s in his first 5 seasons before Harbaugh arrived.

  • Arrowhead Magic

    Also, even though Chiefs fans are divided about the Alex Smith trade that is no reason to go insulting each other’s intelligence and say “you aren’t a true fan.” We might not always agree but we are all Chiefs fans.

    • micah stephenson

      This a Springer crowd. Take that stuff to Oprah!

      • Joe Myers

        Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      You’re right. We’re all on the same side.

  • Scott

    I have been a Geno Smith fan since the last draft finished and I googled the internet for “best QB prospect in 2013 draft”. I loved his accuracy, his TD to INT ratio, his ability to throw downfield, etc. I worried when he started losing, but still knew a great coach could fix whatever made that happen. My biggest fear right now is that if the Raiders select Geno at #3 and he blows everyone away, we, as addicted Chief’s fans, will never recover! I could live with Alex Smith in a trade (assuming we draft the best available qb in addition), but not giving up #34 this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year. I am hopeful that this offseason doesn’t haunt us the rest our lives. My emotions have run the gamut the last 24 hours. However, your last word says it all: Winning! If they do that all else is great. If they don’t, call the realtor. And thanks for giving me my Sundays back from September to February.

    • KCMikeG

      My thoughts exactly. Too early to panic but definitely reason for concern. Who knows maybe they will trade with Philly and still draft Geno at #4?? A fan can dream can’t he?

      • Scott

        Problem is Raiders will take him at 3. Our last playoff win was 1993 with Montana. Before that 1991. Before that 1970 SBIV win with Lenny. We have been waiting since Lenny for the mere hope of another Franchise QB. I now feel that the Chiefs are snakebit and its unlikely for me to see them in another SB. Pretty sad for a 44 year fan.

        • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

          If Geno ends up a Raider I will vomit.

        • dominicscarlatti

          Maybe, but I think the Raiders are pretty desperate for some more DL’s, and they may have the pick of the lot with the third pick in the first round. They could also opt for a CB or an OL, and with Milliner and Fisher maybe available, not to mention Warmack, who knows what they do. Finally, the organization and the Raider Nation seem quite intrigued with Pryor…

  • toperspective

    Well written. The fans have a right to be skeptical as they’ve loyally followed a very poorly run franchise. Last playoff win = 1993.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Thanks!

  • Spencer

    Good read…after cooling of “some” from yesterday i will say this

    Reid i have the ultimate trust in, after his son died i Philly i doubt he would have ever come back to his full “strength” as a HC again IN PHILLY…in KC he can forget the past and try and recover to become the great coach he is

    Dorsey, i have NO trust in at all, he reminds me far to much like Pioli, never did any major decisions in Green Bay, was the guy behind the guy behind the other guy in Green Bay, and with this trade (although there is now hope the cirumstances of the trade tha has been reported could be completely different or alter to better suit the Chiefs in the coming weeks) it reminds me even more…I Trust in Reid to coach the player, i have no trust in Dorsey to bring in the right players to coach, or to retain said players (Albert and Bowe plus Colquitt all not being signed yet pisses me off

    • Stacy D. Smith

      It should be noted that this trade has Reid written all over it.

      • Spencer

        true, but the way Dorsey went to get the guy Reid probably wanted was a bad move…just because there is a low supply of QBS doesn’t mean you completely over pay for a crapp quality good (Alex isn’t a good quality imo to a 2nd rnd pick)…he overpaid and rushed it, but like i said if the reports of the reports being a 2nd and possibly another 2nd rnd pick are false and it is much more realistic then i will be happy, Dorsey…did he learn anything about economics??? (the supply was low in free agency, not in the Draft, and the demand of said supply (Alex Smith) was extremely limited….it wasn’t like he was a big commodity, very small if any other then us and Arizona it appears)

        • Stacy D. Smith

          I tend to agree. Hopefully we’ll get a 2nd in return.
          That would make this a much better deal.

  • oldchiefsfan

    I want to trust. I really do! I have been an active Chiefs fan since Green Bay beat us in the 1st Super Bowl. I will still be a Chiefs fan when Dorsey and Reid are gone. I have lived and died and bled with this team for over 40 years. I had sincerely hoped that this new management team would do something different. Perhaps even changing the status quo and mixing it up a bit. I’m tired of hearing about and being reminded that Blacklidge was a bust. I remember the draft when we chose him over Dan Marino and Jim Kelly. I was a fan then and I watched and cared about the team then.
    I wanted a shot at a young QB with this draft. Somebody we could say was ours. You know a young QB that the guru of training and developing young QBs could train and develop. I thought Reid was the guy who would and could do that. What I see with Alex Smith is more of the same. Cut from the same cloth as so many other castoffs from other teams that were supposed to be the answer to our prayers. Grbac, Bono, and Cassel to name just a couple. If the reports are accurate and we are giving up our 2nd pick in this draft for Alex Smith that is what I find particularly distasteful. I don’t see him as being worth that. If it turns out that it was a 3rd round I would find that a bit more palatable.
    I want to see my Chiefs win another Super Bowl before I die. I want to remember what it was like in January of 1970 when we watched the ticker tape parade downtown and this city was so happy and proud. I want my son to be able to see that and I want to have a big ole party with all of the Chiefs Nation and celebrate our team being World Champs.
    I just don’t see Alex Smith being able to do that for us and I don’t see him being worth our 2nd round pick!

  • nathan82

    Very well written. I do think that this can work, even if it is not my top choice. I thought they paid too much and should have held out a bit to try to get a better deal. Clearly Reid/Dorsey feel that A. Smith is their guy and gives them the best chance to win now, which is what we all want. Also, if we do end up giving away a 2nd next year, it is probably because we got to the playoffs and hopefully won a game. If that happens, I am sure we will feel better about things. FA hasn’t even started yet. I am going to wait until the season begins before I judge their actions.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Hey and who knows? Maybe Smith is our QB for two years, we win some playoff games and the Chiefs draft a franchise QB in the second round of the 2015 draft. Reid and Dorsey are looking at this long term. They figure they have more drafts to come. It is us who have been waiting decades for a QB, not them.

      • Priest4Prez

        Johnny Football??

  • Priest4Prez

    This is why I like ya’ Patrick, you pin point the thoughts going right through my head. I don’t want to blow up on the new guys in town right away but I’m still pretty jaded from the last relationship. I wouldn’t have blown up on it so hard yesterday if we hadn’t given away and I do mean GIVEN AWAY a second round pick. 3rd…ehhh, 4th sure why not with compensation in the following year. The Chiefs fan in me says two things: “Everybody deserves a shot, welcome to Kansas City Alex Smith; now stick it to the rest of the league and prove your merit!!” The other half says:” Man, another castoff whom even a Superbowl team didn’t want…what does that make us look like as a franchise, a team….a fan base.”
    -Hope for the best- That’s the Chief’s fans mantra

    • KCMikeG

      Excellent point. A SB team didn’t want him this year AND last year they shopped him too and no one wanted him w/o giving any picks. Not only is two picks too much but so is the round of both picks potentially. The other ‘cost” no one is addressing is the $$$$. Are we going to pay him the $8.5M he is due this year plus cut and pay Cassel $3M = $11.5M or are we going to extend him and be tied to him for another 3-4 years? What is the cost then if we get Manziel or Boyd next year? Leave our #1 pick on the bench? Over pay AS as a back up? Or cut and pay him like Cassel? This decision is being reacted to w/o even thinking through the entire potential costs.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Thanks Priest. I think you are right. We must proceed with caution. But we must proceed.

  • NicholasAlanClayton

    Well said, I’ve cooled down a lot since yesterday. But maybe that’s just the medication kicking in.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Probably the meds.

  • Trent Taylor

    Great column, Patrick! Spot on analysis of the situation.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Thanks Trent.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    If the Chiefs had only given up one of two R3′s to obtain Smith, I think you have a very different reaction from the Kingdom. My issue isn’t explicity with Smith, it’s with the compensation San Francisco made off with.

    He’s playing good football the past two seasons.
    He’s a good fit for the system and with some respectable targets and Andy Reid behind him, he should continue to produce.

    If he doesn’t get this team to the next level though, it will all be for naught.
    And even then it will be problematic.

    I can live with a bad decision that only costs this team an R3.
    An R2 costs us a contingency plan too, in all likelihood.

    My head is much cooler than it was yesterday though.
    I’m going to wait until the full truth is out about the compensation.
    If we get an R2 back from SF, I’ll do a 180.

  • Bigtexjayhawk

    Alex Smith has been a beast the last 2 years at the helm. He has playoff experience, fits the west coast scheme and is a leader/winner. Dont look at his numbers and say he is Cassel. SF played cons due to their excellent D. Did Anyone watch the Saints playoff game?? We still have huge holes Wr, Te, Dt, Ilb, cb. Love FA acquisitions for starting positions the. Take best avail in draft. Cant wait to see AS take a naked bootleg to the house!!!

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      haha I would love to see a naked bootleg as well. Fond memories.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

  • http://powellbailbonds.weebly.com/ big chief

    Who says they’re hitching the wagon to Alex Smith? They could still draft a qb. A million things could happen on draft day. Seattle traded for Flynn last year and he hasn’t seen the field.

  • KCPauly

    I come to humbly apologize Mr. Smith, I reacted with a knee jerk, we are very passionate fans, and I am a little sick of retread QB’s, but I would like to welcome you to KC, and I promise I will not be negative again until given a reason(it’s just been the norm for so long), I think a 2round was a little high because SF was going to cut loose anyway and I think we could have waited a little, I too wanted Geno, or any of our own QB, but I will live with it and wait to see what happens , I also apologize to my fellow Chief fans for being one of the shit spewers, sorry guys,I have slept on it and I wish us luck and a good year with Smith under center, sorry to to Mr. Reid, and dorsey too. Hopefully I will not have to be on here apologizing again for being a jackwagon(meaning we excell and crush) GO CHIEFS FOREVER!!!

  • KCPauly

    Just one more thing, I have seen the error of my ways and didn’t wait until we do good to be a hippocrite and turn around, I want this team to win and do good and am going into support mode right now, ALL I ask is that us AWESOMEST fans in the league all do the same and unit and make Arrowhead a feared place again, Please all lets come together and love our beloved Chiefs until they give us a reason not to, we wanted change we got it now lets get behind it and cheer our asses off for our New Chiefs. Thank you all for the Passion

  • Doug McD

    There is more luck in finding a great QB than I think we all think. Tom Brady for instance was a (compensatory 6th round pick) 7th rounder. How much of it is the “system” they are in, nobody will know. Those great QB’s come around very infrequently, some may never be found. It would be interesting to know just how many drafted QB’s never get a chance to play. My guess is it is a high percentage.

    I for one trust Reids decision because in his business they play percentages and I’m sure the percentages said to take Alex Smith over one in the draft. There are no guarantees with anyone he takes. I am sure he thought Alex gives them the best chance to win. Winning solves everything and I hope we find out this season.

    I will be surprised if they don’t take a QB in the draft, not a 3rd rounder but maybe 5th or 6th. And I think we will draft a QB every year in Dorsey’s system. This also makes good business when we find someone that is a keeper. We can trade the good backup for value like so many teams are doing today.

  • Daniel Mayfield

    Good point Patrick! I believe that Reid can develop Alex to play in the new offense. I’m sure he could have had Geno playing good too. If Reid is the type of HC everybody ESPN and NFL shows say he his, he can have a lot of QBs ready for the season.

    As for the “trust” part. It was a pretty crazy idea for fans to have TRUST in Pioli before he even started…..ok, not crazy but stupid. They need to give the Reid and Dorsey a CHANCE. They might not have us in the SB or in the playoffs in 2013. Give the new guys a chance to build up what Pioli and Crennel left behind. 2-14. Gonna be hard work.
    I’ve been on other sites where fans said that if KC don’t make it this yr then they are going for a different team. To me, that’s not a true fan and they shouldn’t be running there mouth so much, IMO anyway. I’m a true fan and I’ll stick with this team as long as I’m alive and I don’t even live near them. (Long story about what got me into being a Chiefs fan, well not that long but my fingers are getting tired lol) Point is…………..before giving up on them before the season starts, give them a chance. Before giving up on them if they don’t make it to the playoffs in 2013, as long as it’s a much better season then last yr, give them a chance. I think you get the point……

    GIVE THEM A CHANCE!!!!!!

  • jimfromkcj

    It seems to me that this is a lot of verbiage for naught. The deal seems to be made, except for the formal announcement. So why not get on to what our opinions are about moving forward. I always speak for myself and usually get flack for thinking outside the box, but here goes. Bowe and Albert seem to be the next stumbling blocks. Both seem to be of the opinion that they deserve top 5 money. The problem is that both have shown flashes of top 5 play, but they have been fleetingly and easy to miss. I would rate them just below top 10, maybe a 12 or 14. So here is one scenario that I have thought about. How about we let Albert walk or work out a trade if possible and draft Joekel #1. I think after watching him handle the best of the SEC defences that he is a first day starter and will be as good as and possibly better than Albert, plus he will save approx. 20 mill. in his first rookie contract over Albert. That money could go towards a CB, maybe Roger-Cromartie of the Eagles. That would leave us with Alex at QB, Joekel at LT and Flowers and Cromartie at the corners. Not too bad for the first 2 rds. And we still have 2 picks in the 3rd an picks in the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th rds, plus we haven’t dented our cap money yet and can get a couple of FA’s if they want. So this could be a very good year if this could be worked out.

  • JimmyD

    I don’t honestly understand the love for Geno Smith. I have never seen him as a top rate QB. Like a downgraded version of Michael Vick.

    That being said, the QB position is the worst position to fill right now. The draft is dry to say the least and trades are hard to come by. I think they made as good of a decision as possible given the circumstances. I have no idea what to expect, but I assume that Ried and Dorsey know more about the in’s and out’s of acquiring players than I do, so I’m gonna silently watch.

    GO CHIEFS!