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Scott Pioli Says Chiefs, 49ers Trade For Alex Smith Isn't Finalized

Former Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli may be gone but he is still haunting the television sets of Chiefs fans everywhere.

Pioli has been serving as a draft analyst for various media outlets this offseason, including NFL Network. On Wednesday, he appeared on SiriusXM NFL Radio and dropped some knowledge on the Chiefs/49ers/Alex Smith situation.

The one thing I have heard talking to some good sources is this thing has not been completely finalized yet. I think they are still working through some of the absolute details of what the compensation is. Because I think what happens in these trades, if you give up a pick for something or if you’re going to give up two picks, what’s been a new trend in the NFL is people generally kick picks back. Because teams don’t like to see their, even if they are going to give up a higher pick they want to get something later in the draft so they at least have a volume of picks to have more opportunities.

Right now, reports indicate that the Chiefs are giving up two picks, a second-round pick in 2013 and a possible mid to high, conditional pick in 2014. There have been no real reports of the 49ers giving anything, other than Smith, back to the Chiefs.

Pioli seems to think there might be more to this deal then we are originally hearing.

Old Scotty says he talked to some good sources. It is believed by many that Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt liked Pioli and only parted with him because his hand was forced following KC’s 2-14 season. I wouldn’t be surprised if Scott’s source, was Hunt himself.

What do you think, Addicts? Is there more to this trade than meets the eye?

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  • Stacy D. Smith

    Make it ONE third and I will do a 180.

  • Tony Coen

    I hope he is right! We are giving up way too much for him! He’s not worth it!

  • kirk

    Can we find out sources from someone else other than pioli?

    • Michael Tavis

      Chances are Piolis source is Hunt so as much as I hate Pioli he does kinda have a big source with the franchise.

  • Doug McD

    It ain’t over til the fat lady sings!

  • Jack Thomas

    Throw in tedd ginn Jr. and I’m content

  • toperspective

    I sure hope Pioli is right…..would make me feel much better……I’ll inch a bit off the ledge.

  • Chris Tarrants

    The smith boys! Alex and Aldon for 2nd round 13/14 and it’s a deal

  • Heilios

    I would love to see Alex Tanney come into a genuine qb competition. I truly believe he has what it takes to be an elite qb in the NFL! Wouldn’t that be an awesome scenario? A major competition at the qb position between A Smith, G Smith, and A Tanney! That would be my perfect dream!

    • KCMikeG

      It appears to me that Stanzi and Tanney won’t even get a look. I liked them both but oh well what do I know.

  • Arrowhead Adventurer

    We need Alex Smith.

    • Heilios

      I hate to say it but you are right. I wasn’t too thrilled with the trade but regardless of what i think our wagon is hitched to Alex Smith so i might as well come to terms with it. I am still holding outhope that we will get to see what Tanney really had to offer!

  • dominicscarlatti

    Ahhh…that eternal beacon of hope for Chiefs fans – Scott Pioli. If it is our second rounder (by the way, the same pick we gave up for Cassel, isn’t it?!), I would feel better about this if we also received a 4th rounder from the Niners.

    I like Geno Smith, though not with the first overall pick, but I think Alex Smith can be a capable starter in KC. This is a new regime, and a newly-hatched deal, so I would hope Chiefs fans will forget about the SF QB syndrome and realize that Alex Smith has nothing to do with DeBerg, Montana, Bono & Grbac. Nor is he related to Matt Cassel. Don’t fancy the reported price tag here, but I think it might behoove Chiefs fans to give Dorsey and Reid a chance to shape the roster and exhibit their personnel evaluation acumen. When Albert walks and Joeckel is drafted, Chiefs fans will go nuts, but there is a strong argument for taking exactly that approach. Let’s suspend judgment and wait until we see the 2013 product on the field before we all have a mass conniption…

    • KCMikeG

      Don’t forget we got Vrabel too. And it was only ONE #2. I so hope you are right.

      • dominicscarlatti

        Fair points, Michael.

  • Michael Tavis

    Pioli source may very well be Hunt. Hunt pays more attention to fans now. He may have seen the backlash and used Pioli the same way Pioli use to use the media to calm the fans.

    • berttheclock

      Pioli used his buddy, Michael Lombardi, to throw up trial balloons. If CH is using him, fine, as long as he understands I would rate Pioli along side Dick Morris for being correct in any fooball matter.

  • KCMikeG

    Please Lord I pray this is true. It sounds as if our deal with SF has launched Geno back into the 10 pick talk. Jax, Oak, Az, Buf even the Brownies supposedly all are interested in Geno. Maybe we can trade back and replace our #2 picks we just over paid for AS. Or maybe we should trade out so we have another #1 to go with our #1 next year so we can get Manziel or Boyd after AS/MS2 fails. Or maybe we still pick Geno #1 and develop him in 2013. Or maybe we get EJ Manuel in the 4th and he takes over for AS next year just like Kaepernick did to him this year. Or who knows maybe it will all works just great with AS.
    I don’t feel well. I’m going to go lay down. Oh, I already am………..

    • dominicscarlatti

      If I were Dorsey or Reid right now, I would be hyping (anonymously!) the Geno to Raiders rumors that appeared today in order to try to create some interest in our top pick. Every year teams reach in the 1st for mediocre QB prospects (Clausen, Locker, Ponder). Maybe Geno isn’t highly enough rated to induce a late swoon by other teams open to trading for our pick, but one can always hope.

      • berttheclock

        Thank you for mentioning the name of Dorsey. Apparently, most of the media believe only Reid had anything to do with this. Of course, most fans do not even understand teams have GMs and believe all winning only comes down to a great HC and an excelllent QB.

  • KCMikeG

    If Pioli is doing Hunt’s media manipulation then does his repeated “tag Bowe” comment mean Bowe is forced labor again and then gone? And his “they really like Joeckel” mean Albert is done in KC?

  • nosaer

    Chiefs must have seen or heard (or not seen or heard) something at the combine that has led them down this path.

  • Nick

    Maybe they are negotiating Dashawn Goldson getting franchised and traded too. For that I would happily give up 2 seconds as long as we could sign extensions with both.

  • Grandfield66

    If it be in my hands id trade our number 1 overall pick for alex smith and their first round pick. That way they get the glory of number one overall we still have a late first round plus our original 2nd round. Pick up matt barkley or a mike glennon kind of guy late in the first and ol 34th overall just my opinion

  • family man

    the 49ers have 14 picks i wouldn’t be surprised if we got a 4th and a 5th to go along with the trade for the 2nd and 3rd in 2014