Would You? Could You? Chiefs Fans? 2013



It’s time to play… Would You? Could You, Chiefs fans?

Like any other fan in the Addict, I dream dreams for the Chiefs… of Montana in red and gold, of Marcus Allen diving over the pile for a Chiefs TD, and of Priest Holmes following his HOF blockers into the end zone… ooooops… that wasn’t a dream at all… just a pleasant flashback. Things haven’t always been this bad in Kansas City. We used to actually have some incredible talent on the roster.

Anyway… now I’m dreaming of a heavenly off season… dumping Pioli and Crennel… hiring Reid and Dorsey… mastering free agency and drafting the hell out of the draft.

To do that… as the song says… A Change is Gonna Come. Let’s see if you could live with these changes:

Would you… could you… trade away our first round picks this season and next season if it meant the Chiefs could secure the likes of Joe Flacco? On Thursday during an interview with Metro Sports Andy Reid said that first round choices are a 50-50 hit-miss proposition. So, it makes mathematical sense to give away two number one picks to get a proven Super Bowl winner at the most important position on the field. I’d do that trade in a minute. Pro Football Talk (PFT) is reporting that some teams have been thinking of making this bid before the postseason even took place. Now that the postseason has played out, in grand fashion for Mr Flacco I might add, it would be a steal to get this Joe in the fold… for the remainder of his career. Mr Hunt, if you ever have considered a time that you might want to be opening your pocket book wide… now’s that moment.

Would you… could you… cut Kevin Boss and Steve Breaston? Not to worry — consider that job done for you. A bigger question may have to do with who else you would be… or could be… willing to cut yourself? It’s now clear that the reigning rulers of Chiefstopia are adamantly at it when it comes to tailoring the team and altering the atmosphere in the Arrowhead dressing cubbies.

From Clark Hunt’s two week turn-around of Crennel & Pioli to Reid & Dorsey… to Reid’s nimble & methodical hiring of a fresh and minty staff… to the Shaun Smith prescribed off season routine… to the signing of a mini-van load of practice players… to Dorsey’s admonitions that’s there’s not a lot to like in this year’s QB draft class… to bringing in the absent-hinded Safety Husain Abdullah… and now the releasing of Boss and Breaston — things are beginning to shift to a magnitude that screams: don’t blink or you’ll miss it! Now, you can begin to get a sense for just how dramatic the make-over will be by the time next season starts.

The question is: who else would you either cut if you could and be glad to do the honors yourself… or who do you predict get’s cut next? My prediction is… Glenn Dorsey is not far behind Boss and Breaston and gets no name-sake grace from the new Chiefs GM.

Would you… could you… widen the football field another 35 feet? Proponents say this will cut down on injuries. Andrew Hawkins, owner of the Cincinnati Bengals thinks adding width to the playing field would save a lot of injuries. Hawkins says,

“It would prevent a lot of the severe collisions. Guys are getting faster every year. We know that. But with the NFL spacing being more confined than the CFL, there are a lot more big hits. There are a lot more tight windows. It would prevent not all, but a larger portion, of big hits.”

NFL great QB Warren Moon says doing that, would open up a lot of huge spaces in the defense and make it much easier for the offenses to score. Which, Moon calls “an unfair advantage.”

I tend to agree with Warren Moon and while I could see ten feet being added to each side of the  field — 12 yards total would change the dynamics of the game thus alter offensive and defensive statistics. That would ultimately usher in a heterogeneous era, an era that shouldn’t be compared to the great game of football as we’ve known it up to this point in time.

Would you… could you… allow both Glenn Dorsey, the Chiefs 5th pick in the 2008 draft, and Tyson Jackson, the Chiefs 3rd pick in the 2009 draft… would you… could you… allow them to walk away from the team? ProFootballFocus has suggested that the reason that Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson and now Justin Houston have all made the Pro Bowl is because of the play of Dorsey and Jackson. If GD & TJ eat up blockers in front of them then Hali, DJ and Houston can get to where they want to go without having to go through a brick wall to get there. The demands of a 34 defense for DEs is dramatically different than they are for a 43 DE. Yes, we’d all like to see a lot more push from our DE duo when it comes time to rush the passer, but they have done an above average job of stuffing the run. The Chiefs real run stuffing challenge comes up the middle — not Dorsey and Jackson’s territory. While I’m making a case for both of them to be retained…. I’m really saying that even though all of this may be true… I’m ready to allow them to walk. Why? Because the amount it would cost to resign them would make signing Dwayne Bowe and Branden Albert prohibitive. The question then is: who is more valuable to the team — Bowe and Albert — or Dorsey and Jackson. Based on their performances over several years… priority wise… it’s Bowe first and Albert second. Bye-bye Glenn and Tyson.

Would you… could you… project the Chiefs to battle for the division crown in 2013 based solely alone on the fact that the they have the 5th weakest strength of schedule in the league?  Even with all the positive moves going on in Chiefslandia this offseason you’d probably be off your rocker to predict anything like that quite yet. Why? Because all three other teams in the AFC West have even weaker schedules next season. Take a look.

 

Would you… could you… admit that only one of the following players are going to be the Chiefs opening day starting QB in 2013: Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Mike, Glennon, Alex Smith, NIck Foles, Brandon Weeden, Michael Vick, Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn, Ricky Stanzi, or Alex Tanney?

I believe that about covers it. If you think the Chiefs could possibly end up with someone who is not mentioned here… please speak up now or forever hold your piece. I think it’s important to narrow our choices down so that we can know what to expect next year.

Oh… I heard JaMarcus Russell is available. I understand he has a big arm… and tongue!

Would you… could you… draft Manti’ Te’o with the second pick of the second round? Te’o, a once ballyhooed top ten ranked pick, has fallen off the deep end, in more than one way, and now finds himself in a free fall. So, how much has his hinky-slimy-hijinks changed your opinion of him as a football player? No, I don’t want to hear another comment about his — invisible entourage — but, I am interested in how much he could help the Chiefs. The question is, would he help… or would his presence eventually turn the Chiefs locker room into a unreality-TV-internet-phenomenon? Which also means he won’t be very helpful on the field.

I say take him if he’s there at pick #34.

Would you… could you… predict that after three season from now, the best QB’s in the league will be Aaron Rodgers and Colin Kaepernick? AR and CK should become the torch bearers. In what is likely to be the beginning of the post Brady Manning era (figuring Manning plays at least one more season and Brady three) you look around the league at the best QBs and ask: who else could it be? I wonder if Robert Griffin III will be healthy enough to scale the heights and remain there. I wonder if Joe Flacco has already reached his pinnacle and there’s only one direction left for him to go and it’s not up. I wonder if Drew Brees will be able to sustain his tasmanian production or if there’ll be a big drop off by then. I wonder if Matt Stafford will ever get to work with a whole team that is worthy of his talent. I wonder if Andrew Luck’s 27th in the league QBR will ever ascend to the NFL heavens. I wonder if Sam Bradford will ever get to throw to a better than average receiver (or just how long he can survive with Barry Richardson protecting his non-blind side). I wonder if Russell WIlson will have a sophomore slump or continue to amaze. I wonder if Matty Ice will melt in Atlanta without his baby binky, Tony Gonzales.

Yes, l ask myself similar questions about Kaepernick and Rodgers but, every time I watch them they both woo me and wow me so much that it’s hard to believe, three years from now, that both of them won’t be in the middle of sculpting their way to Canton.

In the meantime… I wonder, will the Chiefs have a QB worth mentioning?

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  • berttheclock

    Ah, to be at One Arrowhead and be able to say, “Hey, Baldwin, got a minute?”

  • berttheclock

    Mr Morse, I like your term “Chiefslandia”. However, as I reside where “Portlandia” is filmed, may I remind you of the local motto “Keep Portland Weird”. Of course, many things have been very weird about the Chiefs in recent years.

    • Daniel Mayfield

      Yeah, I have to agree. But the recent yrs, wasn’t Pioli the GM? He makes himself weird. Not just weird….puts himself in his own world most of the time.

    • ladner morse

      berttheclock… the question is… should “Chiefslandia” live on… or be retired at an early age?
      I kind of like the sound of it……. no matter how “weird” things have gotten for the Chiefs.

  • Daniel Mayfield

    I like the idea of spreading out the field a little more on each side. No 35 yrds though.

    • Michael Shaw

      Nah, sorry, but I think most people are right. The offense has too much of an advantage as it is.

  • GDL40

    NO ….. I wouldnt give up this year’s and next year’s 1st round picks plus a monster contract for Flacco… I would rather draft Geno with this year’s first, who is ranked #4 in NFL network’s Gil Brandt’s “TOP 100″ players in this draft..give him a smaller contract then what u would pay Flacco, andu still have next year’s first…..

    • emanuelvioleta

      I’m a huge Geno fan too. That being said… isn’t a bird in the hand worth two in the bush? If the Chiefs can get a proven
      Super Bowl winner wouldn’t that be better than banking all your trust in a prospect who comes with no guarantee? No matter how much you like him. I fact… I LOVE Geno Smith and am pulling for him big time in Indy this week……. but doesn’t a proven track record trump potential???

      • John Woodley

        Would our #1 pick this year and next be enough to get kapernick they have proven they can win with a.smith, he would also save a ton of money for another couple years

        • emanuelvioleta

          : Do you think the 49ers would even consider trading ck for any amount of picks??? about as possible as the Chiefs trading for Brady.. .right?

      • GDL40

        I see your point, and it would be easy to agree with it, but I just feel, just my personal point of view, I just feel like the fact that a QB won a super bowl dsn´t necessarily make that QB ¨elite¨, or a proven SB winner… I would be willing to give those 2 first rounders for Kaepernick, and he LOST the SB, Flacco, I jst don´t think is an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Payton Manning, I think they won mostly bc the defense was able to find a way to hold Kaepernick, they studied that GB game, GB wasn´t ready for it. I know Flacco payed really well too, but that argument sounds like you would have done that trade for Trent Dilfer too, back in 2001, after the Ravens won that SB …..

        • emanuelvioleta

          No Trent Dilfer for me. I don’t know anyone who would equate Dilfer to Flacco. I’m not really saying I would take Flacco over Geno Smith… or Geno over Flacco… it’s just a debate I’m having with my self… “if experience trumps potential” … then is Flacco supposed to be a better choice than Geno Smith”…. it hard for me cause I like Geno Smith so much. Was just wondering what you thought?

          • GDL40

            Yeah, I see what you mean, and it makes sense, in a way, I was just saying that not just because a qb won a SB, means he will win another one, or that he´s elite, used Dilfer as an example of that. To give up 2 frsts (including 1st overall), for Flacco, will definitely divide a crowd, I´m just on the side that would rather draft Geno and still have our 1st pick next year…..

          • emanuelvioleta

            Oh boy, giving up the number one picks is rough any way you look at it and even though it would be great to have a guy like Flacco immediately stabilize the QB position I really want to see my Chiefs draft their own QB and develop him all the way and stick with him in sickness and in health / blah blah blah. This story about the Chiefs not picking a Qb in the first round since Moses parted the red sea makes me want to puke. The idea of having a young Qb like Geno around, who is 22, for 10 plus years is too much to pass up.

          • GDL40

            couldn´t agree more !

    • Michael Shaw

      I am not sure why there is such a Bromance with Geno on this site. He kinda reminds me of Tony Romo, all the skills, but can’t seem to get over that hump and win the big game. How many BCS titles did WV win with him at QB? Which transitions to how many times has Tony Romo lost or caused the loss of a big game? Just because a guy puts up BIG numbers in college doesn’t necessarily mean he will be able to do that at the NFL level. I am going to trust Dorsey and Reid with this decision and if they think he isn’t worthy of #1, then I can only assume they saw something we didn’t. I personally have NOTHING against Geno, but when every article I read says there is not a real conclusive #1 QB in this year’s draft, then I get Todd Blackledge flashbacks about us picking up one at #1!

      • ladner morse

        Why do you want to site a BCS title as a measuring stick for college QB greatness? Can you name one QB who was on a winning (or losing) BCS Bowl team in the past ten years who is now a QB Icon in the NFL? No? Me either. You know why… because there are none.

        I live in the Dallas area and so I’d like to hear your reason for connecting the dots between Geno Smith and Tony Romo?

        Your argument about there not being a conclusive or consensus #1 QB in this draft doesn’t hold water. Was there a consensus #1 last year when Andrew “The Best QB Prospect to Come Out In Ten Years” Luck was drafted number one? No… there were plenty of pundits, including me, who thought RGIII was better and after his rookie year I’m sticking with my prognosis.

        On one hand you complain that everyone on this site supports Geno Smith and on the other hand you complain there is no consensus. Do you see the conundrum?

        • Danny W

          With out me there is no consensus!

    • Danny W

      I like this idea!

  • Chris Tarrants

    Ck hasn’t proved anything yet! He took a nasty d and stacked o to the bowl but not until Smith paved the way and did the leg work. Rodgers will definantly be the face of the nfl for years to come but the jury Is still out on ck.

    • ladner morse

      If ck completes the last pass of the Super Bowl would you really be saying this?
      I agree that he hasn’t put up numbers for an extended period of time yet…… but since we’re

      just predicting here…. I have to come back to the eyeball test. His performances have been
      Barry Sanders level eye-ball popping good. I’m not from the Bay area and have no such associations
      but I can see why coach Harbaugh opted out of Alex Smith for Mr. Kiss-my-own-biceps.
      Can you see it? He amazes me. He doesn’t amaze you?

      • chiefridgy

        He doesn’t amaze me. He’s good tho.

      • Chris Tarrants

        Yes I would still say it, he is Vick all over again. If he still has defenses on their heels in a few years then yes give him credit, but I think they will figure him out

        • emanuelvioleta

          Chirs… I don’t see ck as another Vick who is always hyper in the pocket just waiting to run. He was that way more with the Falcons and though he was better about passing first when he first went to Philly… it’s his running that will be his death in the NFL. So if ck is not the man… becasue I do see Rodgers up at the top in 3 years…. I don’t know who the other guy will be.

          • Chris Tarrants

            That’s what is so great about the nfl, fans seeing different things and having different gut feelings about people. I see Rodgers as the face of the nfl right now! He strikes fear into the heart of defences and also fans if the opposing teams, ck might be the other guy at some point but I can’t let a half of a season lead me in any direction. Don’t sleep on Stafford he is one or two keys offensive pieces away from being a lights out Kurt Warner like gunslinger

  • chiefridgy

    I don’t think I would have released Breaston. Also, I would not widen the field.

    • emanuelvioleta

      I agree with you… Breaston has always been one of the good guys. I am going to want to hear more about why he didn’t fit with Reid… I understand why he didn’t get along with Crennel and Pioli and their underground system of alienating players…. but, why in the world would Reid not be able to use Breaston? Misused and misunderstood.

      • ladner morse

        Misused? I’d say that’s right because its another Ricky-Stanzi-Where’s-Waldo-Mystery. What in the “H” were Crennel and Pioli thinking?

        Draft a QB… then don’t play him even one down. Sign and pay Breaston a couple of mil a year then bench him for a year without an explanation. I hope Hunt can keep his finger more in the pie and find out why the GM and coach would do such things. Are you listening Clark?

  • John Woodley

    Our D couldn’t stop anyone with dorsey/jackson don’t care if we have 3 LB in probowl or not I just want to see some sign that the D as a whole is of nfl caliber

    • ladner morse

      If the Chiefs can pick up Canty… he could be the linchpin for unlocking how the team goes after free agents and even draft players. Let Dorsey and TJ walk and even if they don’t sign Canty I think they’ll pick up a couple of mid round DL who will do just as well as them. But, if they get Canty they can focus picks elsewhere like CB… because I think the Chiefs need more than one. They can focus more on drafting another WR with the skills more tailor made for Reid’s vision of the O.

    • Guest

      Do you think the 49ers would even consider trading ck for any amount of picks??? about as possible as the Chiefs trading for Brady.. .right?

  • emanuelvioleta

    Hey Morse… you might have missed out on one possible QB for our Reid led Chiefs… VINCE YOUNG! I know what you’re all thinking… “NOOOOOOOOOOOOO” But consider that Young was with the Eagles and the “dream team” / my shot at humor / as recently as 2011. Reid knows him and he played in 6 games that year. Not that he did great but Steven A Smith and his arguing partner, I forget his name, were talking about Vince and how he’s been working out and is ready to make an impact somewhere. He might actually be a good guy to help someone like Geno Smith learn to adapt to the NFL world….. that is….. Young has grown up at all. I’m guessing he has. At the very least Young could be a good 3rd string guy if Reid wants to stay with the athletic types like Vick

    • Danny W

      I’d be surprise if VY ever plays again myself.

  • GDL40

    I don´t agree with spreading the filed more…… as if the offense dsn´t have so many advantages already. All these QB´s breaking records, records that were put there by REAL HOF´ers, records will continue to be broken at a fast pace because the rules favor the offense! You can´t even TOUCH a WR anymore, not to mention QB´s ….. don´t touch THEM ! people talk about putting an asterisk to players in baseball breaking records, because they were doping, well asterisks should be placed along the new records being broken, becuase it is NOT THE SAME GAME ! ….. widening the field will only make that worse ! not fair for defensive players working hard every day, to keep getting screwed with all these new rules

  • emanuelvioleta

    : No one is talking about Boss. I was pretty excited when he came a year ago. The Pats two TE stud system wasjust a pipe dream I guess. He77… if Boss and Moeaki are at their best could have been Batman and Robin but. I think the Joker spoiled the day! I hope picking up another stud TE is part of the plan this off seson!!!

    • Danny W

      I like me some tight ends, but Boss is a high risk right now. That head injury was a scary one bro.

      • emanuelvioleta

        Tight ENDS??? lol

        • Danny W

          I said tight ends!……..I don’t get it.

          • emanuelvioleta

            : So… you like you some… “TIGHT ENDS” huh?

          • Danny W

            I’m 100% flaming heterosexual if that’s what your insinuating. I guess I should have said I love double TE sets.

          • emanuelvioleta

            100% hetero here too… just joking around. I always notice you have a good sense of humor… so I jest!

          • Danny W

            I see, if a gun were held to my head and I had to sleep with a man it would be a tight end. His name is Mike Ditka. lol

          • emanuelvioleta

            You mean you would betray Tony G… after all he’s done for us… he may be retiring but my God man… this TIGHT END has to be one of the TIGHTEST ENDS in history!!!

          • Danny W

            LOL I love Tony but feel he broke up with me. I’m still pretty jealous and jaded. If he called though……

          • emanuelvioleta

            OMG! You’re hilarious!!!!!!!

          • emanuelvioleta

            : I like em tight too!!!

    • Larry Devore

      How about Eifert from Notre Dame. I liked the way the kid played

      • emanuelvioleta

        I’d rather have Zack Ertz from Stanford. Check out this vid of him against Oregon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5_y3oVj30 I like Ertz… he’s an inch taller… a little faster…. better hands…. check him out. Why do you like Eifert so much?

  • Danny W

    Joe Flaccoe: No I wouldn’t give two first’s for. I would give our first this year and

    our third next year.

    Boss Breaston: Yes, and yes. Boss for his own good and Breaston because I have faith in Baldwin. Call me crazy but I think Baldwin is an eventual pro bowler. My prediction of who gets cut next, is also Glenn Dorsey. I would cut he and Jackson if they didn’t take significant pay cuts.

    Widen the Field: NO don’t fix it if isn’t broken.

    Draft Jackson and Dorsey in hindsight: No

    Battle for the Division: Six pro bowlers should be an automatic yes, but it honestly depends on who the quarterback is.

    Rookie QB. I’ll admit it I think it will be a rookie.

    Te’o in the Second: No brainer
    If the Chiefs don’t have quarterback worth mentioning then they shouldn’t have a fan in the stadium. The tickets will be the price of McDonalds happy meals again.
    My two cents.

    • ladner morse

      Hey Danny… I’ve been a big Baldwin fan since before he was drafted by the Chiefs. But, I haven’t seen him do much… except for last preseason. It is interesting that Baldwin did so well with Bowe sitting out. Obviously the solution there is to get a great QB. But… it still does leave me wondering if Baldwin will ever come through.

      • emanuelvioleta

        Danny’s right, Baldwin is going to be good. Hope Reid will figure a way to use him better than Crennel or dumbo Dabol.

        • Danny W

          He (Ried) will the kid has too much talent not to get the football to.

      • Danny W

        I know what you mean. The guy has all the potential in the world. With Air Reid wanting to throw the football everywhere I’m hoping we get the most out of his potential. I think the verdict for me anyways is still out. I think the guy has the ceiling of Calvin Johnson, could be just above avg as in Plaxico Burress in his prime, or could absolute bust out. My bet is somewhere between Plax and Megatron. Get him a quarterback who will look for him on the twenty and throw it about 11 feet high and watch this kid do his thing.

    • emanuelvioleta

      If there’s no new QB this off season………. I’ll take the Happy Meal!!!!!!

    • Larry Devore

      Future pro bowler based on what? The man practically disappeared during the season. The only time you heard his name was in training camp. Little faith in Baldwin.

      • Danny W

        I think I’m just in love with the potential. The guy has a 42″ vertical leap, and in college caught some wildly thrown footballs. He runs a 4 in the 40. Not all guys start out fast like other wide outs, we were pretty spoiled with Bowe. I’m holding out hope is all. The guy could be another Megatron. If not CJ I would at least settle for Plaxico Burress, I mean throw him the football about goal post high and let him bring it down. I think with a decent QB Baldwin will surprise, if he doesn’t I will happily admit I was wrong about him.

  • Jamie Denton

    On your QB list there’s always the possibility of Matt Flynn with Dorsey’s Green Bay connection with him! Just Sayin!

    • ladner morse

      Good catch!

  • sidibeke

    Should one hold one’s “piece” or their “peace?” Two fairly different proposals.

  • sidibeke

    I’d give up two firsts and a 2nd for Flacco.

    I keep having dreams of Tony G coming back for a year or two, now that we have that TE opening.

  • unclejesse40

    If JaMarcus Russell would sign for the league min I would take him as our third and tell him that he had to battle if he ever wanted to see the field.