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How Much Is Nick Foles Worth To The Chiefs?

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Last night we brought you some interesting reports that the Kansas City Chiefs are interested in trading for Philadelphia Eagles QB Nick Foles, should he become available.

This is a pretty significant report because it indicates one of the strategies the Chiefs may be considering when it comes to solidifying the QB position.

The report likely came from the Chiefs themselves. The organization can’t say publicly that they are interested in Foles because they would be breaking the NFL’s tampering rules.

The problem is the Eagles may not make Foles available. There have been reports that Philly likes Foles and wants to keep him at least through this year. Still, despite what the Eagles may be saying, Foles is not a very good fit for new head coach Chip Kelly’s offense. The fact that the Eagles re-signed Michael Vick and recently signed Dennis Dixon, shows what kind of QB the Eagles are looking for. While neither Vick nor Dixon may be in the team’s long-term plans, given how different their skill-sets are from that of Foles, it is hard to see Foles being the man to lead Kelly’s offense.

The Eagles spent a third-round pick (88th overall) on Foles during the 2012 NFL Draft.

So how much is he worth now?

That is a loaded question.

You can never tell right away how much a new regime is going to value a holdover from its predecessors. Obviously, the Eagles used a higher pick for Foles so they were to trade him they’d likely want to at least get heir draft pick back.

On the other side, we have to ask how much the Chiefs and head coach Andy Reid value Foles.

In limited laying time in 2012, Foles completed 60.8% of his 265 passing attempts. He averaged 6.41 yards per completion and tossed six TDs vs. five interceptions. He was 1-7 as a starter.

There just isn’t enough data on Foles to say whether or not he can be a starter in the NFL. That means the Chiefs would be foolish to give up too much to pry him away from the Eagles.

In the end, the Eagles may not be interested in dealing Foles but if they were interested, what do you think would be appropriate compensation for the second year QB?

How much would you give up for QB Nick Foles?

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  • NicholasAlanClayton

    I think this’ll be my column topic for Monday, so, not to spoil it, but I think he’s worth at least a 3 and some conditional 2014 picks. We’re probably getting a complimentary 3rd anyway so it’s not a huge sacrifice and in his last four games last year he was 5 TD’s, 2 INTs for 1,152 yards (a 289.25 average). Plus, he accomplished that behind atrocious O-line play and no running game.

    • berttheclock

      Foles was rarely able to display his powerful arm. You are correct about that terrible O-line, especially, after they lost their center. Lot of dinks and dunks, especially, those MaHvelous bubble screens. However, against Tampa Bay, he really threw a bullet for a TD and brought the team from behind to win.

      • mg2098

        Dinks and Dunks is Andy Reids offense. I don’t think the QB really needs to have a rocket arm to run his offense, and now that I say that I can totally see Barkley in the mix for a #2 rd pick if he drops. Foles does have a rocket arm, but he had a problem in college locking on to primary receivers. I do like Foles though and he’s worth a shot at developing, but I would spare no more than a 3rd rd pick to acquire him. Get him through a trade that makes sense, but also draft a QB in the 1st 2 rds.

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      Yeah but the comp 3rd is really closer to a 4th but I see where you are going with this.

      • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

        And the 3rd is like a late 2nd. Way too much. Just because you have the currency doesn’t mean you should squander it.

        • bringontheqbs

          exactly. the 3rd really IS a late 2nd
          no saints 2nd rd pick, KC has top pick in rd 3, so really that is pick 64, usually the last pick in rd 2

        • Danny W

          I concur

    • bringontheqbs

      there is a MASSIVE difference in our top of the third pick, and the comp pick. as in, over 30 picks difference in the 60-90 prospect range
      that is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference.

  • berttheclock

    It might be wise to consider the potential trader, Howie Roseman, of whom Dorsey would have to deal with to make this pickup. Roseman, since, 2010 has made 31 trades for the Eagles, not all of them good trades from the standpoint of the Eagles. He let Grigson, the fomer college scout for the Eagles, pick his pocket and he gave away an offensive tackle to Indy only to see the O-line of the Eagles decimated. But, the one trade which does stand out is the Kevin Kolb trade to Arizona. Roseman picked up the DB, Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2nd round pick for that deal. In the Philadelphia Inquirer/Eagles, it has been suggested at least a 2nd round pick for Foles might be asked. So, would our 34 pick be too much to give away for Foles?

    • http://www.arrowheadaddict.com Patrick Allen

      I thin based on what Foles did last year, #34 is too steep. I’d be open to a later round pick this year, say a 5 or 6 and a second next year. But this year’s pick is just too high.

      • john

        Philly would laugh at the offer.

        • http://gplus.to/Tarkus Tarkus

          Then they can keep him, and he and Dixon can battle it out for the backup QB spot.

        • bringontheqbs

          philly would laugh at a next year’s 2nd rd pick? then they are freaking stupid. we all know they want to take manuel this year to complete their trio of runners, take us out of the rd 3 picture, and they have a chance, we take foles from them, we arent taking manuel

          • john

            Keep up. Look at the “reply to”. I said they would laugh at the offer of a conditional third next year and this years fifth, for a guy who was drafted in the THIRD LAST YEAR, to a team that his QB starved and in a BAD negotiating position.

      • Danny W

        Whoa, a second next year is a little extreme unless he’s going to be starting for us. I think a conditional third next year with a fifth this year. Our third rounder if he starts 8 games. #not to high on Foles.

    • john

      I think it’s fair, but, even if it’s a little too much, we all have to keep in mind the situation that the Chiefs are in. There is NO perfect solution here for KC and it’s probably just as good as any other.

      • bringontheqbs

        sure there is. perfect solution is, a QB emerges at the combine via interviews and release, and next thing you know KC has the top pick with a qb “worth” that top pick
        easy easy easy. the hard part is figuring out who else to bring in. alex smith is a darn commitment, that guy wants a 3 year thing. flynn is unproven
        bring in hasselbeck

        • john

          That’s pretty funny. “A QB emerges at the combine via INTERVIEWS and release, and the next thing you know KC has the top with a QB worth that top pick”.
          Seriously? The Combine? So you throw away his four years at college because of how he runs the 40 and how he throws at the combine with no defense to worry about????

  • Chiroubles

    Flip 1st rounders and throw in, say, a 4th rounder? Enough? Too much?

    • ArrowFan

      way to much

    • bringontheqbs

      if we flip 1′s, they have to give the chiefs a 3rd to even it out

    • Danny W

      I’m not giving them a fourth in that case I’d give them a 7th. I don’t know if Geno would be there or not.

  • chiefridgy

    I hope Foles stays an Eagle.

  • Kyle ferguson

    I’ve been thinking about it and I think he is worth a 3 but I don’t think we should spend more than a 5 on him, your trying to build a team and all your picks are high in the round although qb is your biggest need you have holes in other places as well, I’m looking at it as we are still going to draft a guy so now if you spend a 3 on nick and a 1 or 2 on anouther guy you’ve missed a chance to get a quality wide out or a d back in order to get a back up qb, or at best a guy that starts a season while the rookie gets ready, I’d rather see us restructure Matt’s contract and have him play that role and be able to get another guy that’s going to contribute on the field for more than a season

    • john

      Once again, Philly would laugh at the offer. It’s not what you think the Chiefs should spend on him, though that is sort of the title of the article. It’s more about what will it take to GET him. He’s a second year player so they’re not paying him a lot. They don’t have to trade him this year. The Chiefs are desperate. Face it, they are in the driver seat. Anyone is when it comes to dealing with the Chiefs and a QB.

      • Kyle ferguson

        I know they wouldn’t take that deal, but that’s what’s in our best interest. I don’t see this deal getting done Kelly hasn’t even ruled nick out as being his guy next season. And I just read after I posted that he isn’t going to come cheap, so if the trade is made foles is you guy the next ten years, rather have geno or Tyler

        • Kyle ferguson

          Another option would be to pick up the bpa at one see who is on the board qb wise in the second if your guy gets scoped up before then you give up a second round pick for him

          • bringontheqbs

            yep. hes a solid backup option if they REALLY want to try and roll the dice and get a qb to “fall into their laps”

  • john

    I look at it this way. If Foles was in this years draft, he’d probably be the highest rated QB prospect. Kolb went to Arizona for a second round pick, which was too much, but that’s what they got.
    Foles is young and I think has a high ceiling, certainly no more or less or an unknown about any QB in the draft. He’s big, 6’6″ and 245lbs and can throw. Last years stats and win-lose mean nothing. Reid is good with QB’s and thinks a great deal of him.
    I would have no problem with giving a second round pick and since it’s such a high second pick the Eagles would be fools not to take it. Take the beast out of Utah at number one, get the best players in the later rounds, and another QB very late, or maybe even an undrafted one…Chase Retig.

    • bringontheqbs

      chase retig is garbage. we cant rely on an udfa qb good god

      • john

        I’ve seen from your other posts you don’t read very well. My posts clearly indicates trading for Foles to be the QB of the Chiefs. Additionally if you look at Dorsey’s past, they always drafted QB’s. Where do you think Stanzi and Tanney came from? Teams take them all the time, give them a shot and see what happens. Lastly, you obviously don’t know anything about BC football.

  • ArrowFan

    Third round pick tops he does have a high ceiling but it is a gamble that he would be a top NFL QB. Another question to ask is what is he due in salary on his current contract?

    • Danny W

      His contract is beans right now. He was a third rounder.

  • berttheclock

    One other scenario is KC trying to trade down from Number 1 in order to pick up additional draft picks, which could be part of the useage for a trade with Philly. There was a recent comment by John Dorsey that the power structure is not even going to evaluate the need at QB until today and tomorrow.

    • Danny W

      Are you Joeckling me! I don’t know the Eagles pick pretty high and we may be able to get GEno in that spot so it’s not a terrible idea.

  • Mark

    If we are just talking Foles, I’d say no more than a 4th. However, an interesting scenario might be how the Chiefs feels about the left tackle position. If the team wants Luke Joeckel then we could tag Brandon Albert and trade him and a 3rd for Foles and the Eagles 1st.

  • bringontheqbs

    there aren tmany trades that make sense here. but if they really are sold on foles, reid and pederson. you trade your high 3 this year, as its really the end of rd 2 due to the saints lacking their 2nd rd pick.
    or Id try 2 4′s, just dont think they would take that, or a future 3/5. still, why would they takethat

  • Danny W

    I’d give our fourth this year which is essentially a low third. If he starts 8 games for the Chiefs I’d give them next years 3rd. I want Geno Smith though not caring if they get Foles

  • Brody Hall

    Well i have just read that eagles want a 1 or 2 round in this years draft… Wtf are they smoking? Is this really how Kelly thinks the nfl works? A Team shows interest in a player so u think u can rob them blind? If he holds Foles to this criteria… Aint nobody ever trading with this fool! People arent suckers, this is not Fantasy Football playing against your gullable wife who only joinned to give ur leage even teams after begging her…

    PS: If u cant tell i think that is dumb for phili to even say out loud :P

  • cyberry

    I really don’t see how anyone can put a price on Foles til the combine and the QB’s coming out are evaluated. I think Reid only goes after him if he’s the odd man out and bargain pick. If Reid thought he was worth a “reach” then I would think he would have started Foles a lot earlier in the year..Everybody say’s Reid and Foles have a good relationship but Reid has a good relationship most/all of his QB’s..

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.meyers.545 Jason Meyers

    Why would you bring in a qb that in the end lost Andy Reid his job in the first place? Draft Geno pick up Alex Smith in free agency and let him coach up up Geno and lets be done with all this. Still think we should trade down to top 5 pick from number 1 and get another draft pick and still get the guy they want

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